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    1. [A-L] Hartmann
    2. LARRY and PAULA HARTMAN
    3. Thank you Dave & Steve for your help. Steve you are right, it is Jacob Hartman from Walnut, Madison Iowa. I have been unable to locate a passenger list with any of these Hartmans on it. The story on this family is a little complicated. Katherine (Geilke Catharina Huischen) Jacob's first wife, was a widow living in Ostfriesland with her 3 daughters from her first husband, Bertha, Elise & Anna Maria Peters. Jacob is said to have gone to Katherine's home and asking for work. Katherine fed him while Jacob would work on their farm and Jacob kept coming back and Katherine kept feeding him. Jacob & Katherine marry (I am still unsure where) in 1878 (Katherine was from Roggenstede, Ostfriesland). They have a child Minnie (Helen) Hartman in July 1880 born in Germany. The story goes that Jacob stowed away on a ship to the United States, and after 3 days, figuring the ship would not take him back, came out of hiding and ended up working on the ship for his passage. Once in the U.S. Jacob eventually went to South America to help build roads there to earn enough money to send for his family. The family ended up collecting their own money and came to America around 1883. I have looked for the Hartman/Peters names on lists on Ancestry with no luck. I've also looked for Geilke instead of Katherine/Catherine, etc. and Helen instead of Minnie. The family eventually lived in Carthage, Hancock County Illinois and Minnesota before moving to Iowa, then back to Carthage. I have had a friend of mine from Germany try to help me determine what Alwisher might really be with no luck. I continue to search for a marriage record for Jacob & Katherine. Thank you again, I appreciate everyone's help and suggestions. Paula Hartman

    07/12/2011 07:45:11
    1. Re: [A-L] Hartmann
    2. Stephan Wall
    3. Paula, I am not sure if you are familiar with http://en.geneanet.org/  It is a free genealogy site that is very popular in Europe. If you haven't done so already, sign up and try it out. Search for "Huischen" and you will find some family trees that contain Geilke Catharina Huischen along with her parents in Roggenstede. I suggest contacting the owners of these trees, translating if necessary. There is a good chance that Jacob and Catherine were married there. The owners of these trees may be able to tell you how to find out. Good Luck Steve ________________________________ From: LARRY and PAULA HARTMAN <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, July 12, 2011 9:45:11 AM Subject: [A-L] Hartmann Thank you Dave & Steve for your help. Steve you are right, it is Jacob Hartman from Walnut, Madison Iowa. I have been unable to locate a passenger list with any of these Hartmans on it. The story on this family is a little complicated. Katherine (Geilke Catharina Huischen) Jacob's first wife, was a widow living in Ostfriesland with her 3 daughters from her first husband, Bertha, Elise & Anna Maria Peters. Jacob is said to have gone to Katherine's home and asking for work. Katherine fed him while Jacob would work on their farm and Jacob kept coming back and Katherine kept feeding him. Jacob & Katherine marry (I am still unsure where) in 1878 (Katherine was from Roggenstede, Ostfriesland). They have a child Minnie (Helen) Hartman in July 1880 born in Germany. The story goes that Jacob stowed away on a ship to the United States, and after 3 days, figuring the ship would not take him back, came out of hiding and ended up working on the ship for his passage. Once in the U.S. Jacob eventually went to South America to help build roads there to earn enough money to send for his family. ! The family ended up collecting their own money and came to America around 1883. I have looked for the Hartman/Peters names on lists on Ancestry with no luck. I've also looked for Geilke instead of Katherine/Catherine, etc. and Helen instead of Minnie. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/12/2011 06:52:56