Hello Ewald, Yes, I certainly know of the messup, and that is why I have to go to the *original *records. I have everything from Gottlob and Bakowa Banat, the former Crown Colony of Austria Hungary and now Romania. Everything on the settlement will be published by Father Reinholdt this coming year (Gedcom extraction for their church registers.) One offsprings of the Haas/DuMOnt couple goes into my line by their daughter Susanna. She lived a long long life and her gravestone is still at Bakowa. I have never been there, but Father Reinholdt happens to have the same ancestry as I and provided "certified" documentation on the descendants of Jacob Haas and Angela DuMont. But my problem is the messup you have pointed out, and I can do nothing except isolating their true homebase in order to get at the church registers. You were so helpful and I thank you so much. First I will get the Saargemünd wedding entry of 22.10.1795. Which is reliable, because it is recorded so in Vienna upon their registration. There - I mean at the wedding record - Jacob Haas parentage might be listed. At the registration site, they were billeted at Gottlob until their houses were finished in this newly established village Bakowa, but it was very late in the year and the mortar of the houses was still wet; so they remained at Gottlob until the next Summer and then you can see that the church registers of Bakowa start with the year 1786. Their registrations are accessible at the Archives at Vienna, and in the Schlafkreuzerakten, where there is a governmental accounting for the hosting family being paid 1 Kreuzer per person per night by the Monarchy. I have all that. Jacob being a "Zimmermann" carpenter was employed in the construction of these houses. Angela's father Christian Dumont was 60 years old when they emigrated, but left 3 of his 6 children at Spiessen. They are descendants of the Mittelbexbach Brewery at the Frankenholzerhof in the Saarland, and their coat of arms was found on a door dating back to 1685, which I do not believe to be a coat of arms, but rather a shingle to designate the brewery. Angela D. is my ancestress. The emigrant families remarried in the Banat into the same families from where they came. The new settlements were mostly from Baden, Rheinland, the Saarland, Luxembourg and Lothringen . Now their descendants are back in Germany but we were in contact all these years..... although my parents are from the Egerland in Bohemia (Karlsbad) where I (and my husband, as well) were born. I am preparing this for progeny. I thank you very much for your most valuable input. It focuses now on the correct places and dates to straighten out what obviously has been messed up on several genealogical sites which I do not use. I use only my own research supported with certified digital camera copies. Aida On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Ewald K. <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Aida, > > Here what I found online at > http://hotchkissclan.org/gen/Records/INDIs/II2663.html > > - the parents and grandparents of Angela DUMONT are listed > - Jakob HAAS b. 19 Sept 1766 in Gennweiler, m. 22 nov 1785 Angela DUMONT in > Gottlob (Banat). > - Angela DUMONT d. in Banat > > You wrote that << ANGELA DIMON (DUMONT) born 18. Sept. 1766, at > Gennweiler, > Illingen, > Saar, married 22. October 1785 at Saargemünd/Lothringen JAKOB HAASS, (HAAS, > HASS, HAASZ) Carpenter/Builder **born 1763 at Volpertsweiler, Lorraine > (this > is now Folbertsviller, France) >>. > > Two differents versions of the same family??? > << Jakob HAAS b. 19 Sept 1766 in Gennweiler>> > << ANGELA DIMON (DUMONT) born 18. Sept. 1766, at Gennweiler >> > > << he married Angela 22 nov 1785 >> > <<she married Jakob 22. October 1785 >> > > I hope this isn't too confusing for your search > > Ewald > > ++++++++++++++++++++ > > >> On Jun 29, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Aida Kraus wrote: > >> > >> To: Readers and researchers of the Alsace Lorraine List: > >> I am looking for the parents and birthplace of Jakob Haas * 1763 at > >> (perhaps) Folbertsviller, Lorraine. > >> I have the complete ancestry of his wife Angela DuMont which goes back > to > >> 1614, and would like to offer her entire ancestry-information in > >> exchange > >> for information on Jakob Haas. The only lead I have at this time is: > >> *ANGELA DIMON (DUMONT) *was born 18. Sept. 1766, at Gennweiler, > Illingen, > >> Saar, > >> married 22. October 1785 at Saargemünd/Lothringen *JAKOB HAASS, (HAAS, > >> HASS, HAASZ) Carpenter/Builder **born 1763 at Volpertsweiler, Lorraine > >> (this > >> is now Folbertsviller, France).* > >> * *Does anyone have access to a family book from Folbertsviller, > >> Saargemünd or even Colmar to establish a connection of my ancestor Jakob > >> Haass to his parental family? Or, perhaps someone has access to the > >> catholic marriage register at Saargemünd where the parents of the groom > >> might be listed. > >> Any informational reply would be greatly appreciated as I find this > >> lead > >> at a dead end. Can anyone help me to verify Jakob Haass' location of > >> birth, > >> so that I could rent a microfilm from the LDS at Salt Lake City Utah, to > >> extract the church register entry? > >> Aida Kraus Baumbusch > >> Birch Bay on the Pacific > >> Washington State, USA > >> [email protected] > >> * * * * > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message