From: gloria ishida <[email protected]> Subject: [A-L] Census help Niederroedern and wustion >Would some please check the following > Niederroedern census 1846 > page 12 Jacques Jacob age 6 > with Valentin Frey age 64 and his wife >I cannot make out the word after "enfant ..." >Two of his siblings (includes my gg grandmother) are with their grandparents in the same year. Other relatives are also in Niederroedern at this time. >My gg grandmother, Catherine, age 17, is still with her grandfather in 1851 and went to the US either in 1854 or 1855. Jacques and older brother Valentin went later. >Their was a son, George, born 1838 in the Niederroedern records; Jacques seems to have been born somewhere other than Niederroedern. Nothing in US indicates where. >The problem is parents, Valentin Jacob and his wife Marguerite, and George have disappeared. Last I have checked deaths in Niederroedern from 1840 - 1846 - nothing. I have checked censuses in as many surrounding villages that I see nearby. I am sure that they just didn't immigrate to America. They were last seen in the 1836 census. Any speculation on what could have happened to them? Does the word after Jacques's "enfant ...." help I wonder. >Thanks so much. Gloria Ishida ================================ I followed with interest Gloria¹s question about Jacques Jacob in the 1846 census of Niederroeder, and especially the later comment about his parents and supposed sibling George also having disappeared. I expect it¹s possible Valentin JACOB might have gone into the military and been stationed away from Niederroedern. Marguerite might have come home to her parents for the birth of George in 1838, but Jacques perhaps born at their station. A reasonable possibility would be for the parents to have died during Valentin¹s tour of duty, and the surviving children, Jacques and siblings, to be sent to his grandparents and others in Niederroedern as a foster child. This brought to mind a question, re: the Alsace Censuses online. Is there any chance the authorities might have enumerated military installations in much the same way [much later] US Censuses enumerated various bases, ie: the Philippines, and naval ships, etc? IF so, under what category might those military bases be listed? Thanks. Cari Thomas Course, it¹s always possible the rest of the family was out of town on census day.......