Hi Lucy, The decennial table of Heiligenstein / TD AnXI-1812 says that Jean Geoffroy GöPP was born in Heiligenstein 8 May 1812: this is not true because he was born there 25 (or 24?) Sept 1811 (see below). 1°) According to the 1811 birth records of Heiligenstein (picture 3/4): Jean Geofroid/Johann Gottfried GOEPP b. in Heiligenstein 25 (the written text says a day before, 24?) Sept 1811, son of a) Leonhardt "GOEPP le jeune"/the younger , 43 years old, living in Heiligenstein house number 10, vigneron/winemaker b) Marie Salomé HüTT 2°) The marriage record of Kirrberg (picture 2/3) dated 19 May 1836 says: a) groom: Jean Geofroid GOEPP 24 y, b. in Heiligenstein 25 Sept 1811, instituteur/school teacher, living in Kirrberg son of Léonard GOEPP, winemaker, deceased in Heiligenstein 22 Oct 1828 and Marie Salomé HüTT, 50 y, living in Heiligenstein b) bride: Maria Magdalena WELSCHHANS 22y, b. in Kirrberg 9 March 1814, living in Kirrberg, daughter of Pierre WELSCHHANS, 55 y, plowman, living in Kirrberg and Marie BRION 42 y, living in Kirrberg All the best from Alsace Ewald -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lucy Battersby" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 6:15 PM To: "Alsace-Lorraine listserv" <[email protected]> Subject: [A-L] Families Goepp (Heiligenstein and Kirrberg) > > Hello, > I am trying to find out about the Heiligenstein relations of Kirrberg born > Geoffroi Goepp (b 1838). His father Jean Geoffroi (Jan Gottfried) was > thought to have come from Heiligenstein, but he could have come from > Kirrberg. I'd love some guidance about where to start. I have Geoffroi's > birth record from Kirrberg which I obtained from the Archives Bas-Rhin. > Thank you, > Lucy Battersby