This probably won't be of much help. Armbruster is a very common name just over the river in Baden. I have numerous Armbrusters in my tree from there. I suspect at some point an Armbruster wandered a bit and wound up in Alsace, just as I occasionally run into an Alsatian in my Baden records. In fact the Armbruster name is so common in the close by Baden villages, that I wouldn't want to have to dig through those haystacks. My Armbrusters are far back, and few. I've not delved deeply there yet. Aloys(ius) is not an uncommon name for an Armbruster, but I have only three women, and the one instance where I have any indication of a parent is highly speculative and likely incorrect, at a point where the records end for the village, around 1670. You might post a query to the Baden, Ortenau, and/or Urloffen mailing lists. There are Armbruster researchers out there. You might get lucky. Brian On Fri, November 23, 2012 5:45 pm, Ewald K. wrote: > Hi, > > According to his marriage record (Bollwiller marriages 1793-1862, number > 9, > page 384), Aloïse Jean-Baptiste ARMBRUSTER was primary school teacher and > resided in Cernay (Haut-Rhin). > > By searching the death records of Cernay, I found: > Aloïse ARMBRUSTER, 49 years, book-keeper (Rechnungsführer/comptable) d. in > Cernay (Sennheim in German language) 21 Aug. 1882. > His wife Eugénie BAUMANN was alive and lived in Cernay at that time. > source : Death record n° 81, page 1185, "Cernay, Décès, 1851-1882" > > By Googling, I found also that: > - a Mr ARMBRUSTER (no given name), primary school teacher in Cernay, > became > primary school inspector in Mulhouse in 1865. > - a Mr ARMBRUSTER (no given name), was primary school inspector in Belfort > in 1875 and in 1877 > - a Mr ARMBRUSTER (no given name), primary school inspector, acted as > ("faisait fonction de") school inspector ("inspecteur d'Académie) in > Belfort > (1875, 1876) > > Hope this helps. > > All the best from Alsace > > Ewald > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Scotty B." <wsb221@stny.rr.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 5:51 PM > To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [A-L] Birth Records in Bollwiller > >> Hello Listers and Helpers, >> >> >> I am on another quest here and would appreciate some assistance if >> possible. >> I am looking for family members of Aloise Jean Baptiste Armsbruster who >> married Eugenie Josephine Julie Baumann on May 18, 1861 in Bollwiller, >> Alsace Lorraine, France. I do not know of any known children or where >> this >> couple lives after marrying. Makes it hard to find family. >> I was in the Bollwiller cemetery a month ago and saw an ?Armbruster? >> grave. Had no names on it. however I contacted a friend in Bollwiller >> who >> was able to provide me with the following: >> Pour r?pondre ? votre question concernant la tombe de la famille >> Armbruster, je peux vous communiquer les d?funts qui y reposent : >> - Schneider Th?r?se d?c?d?e le 5.04.1936 ? Bollwiller >> - Schneider Jos?phine, d?c?d?e le 24.9.1950 ? Bollwiller >> - Armbruster n?e Hryciw H?l?ne, d?c?d?e le 04.03.1977 ? Colmar >> - Armbruster Godefroi, d?c?d? le 16.07.2002 ? Mulhouse. >> >> A: I have found the following in Bollwiller, Naissances, 1883-1892 on >> page 200, Acte # 1 for a _______ Schneider. This acte appears to have >> a >> lot of information but I am not sure if this is a related family to the >> above or not and would greatly appreciate it if someone could please >> look >> at that ?acte? and decipher it for me. I am thinking that perhaps the >> mother of one of the mentioned Schneider?s mentioned above was perhaps >> an >> Armbruster, although I have not found any Armbrusters? born in >> Bollwiller, >> yet. >> >> B: Also I have found On Page 162 of the same Index I have found >> another >> record # 12 for a Schneider born in April of 1891??? for a Leotina >> Schneider. This gives some information about her marriage I think and >> death but I can?t tell if it lists her parents. >> >> C: I have found on page 160 of same book of births, same year, a >> record for a Josephina Schneider and would appreciate whatever >> information is listed on this document. >> >> D: And finally for tonight on page 158 I have found a record for an >> Anna Schneider born in February of that year. >> I do not know if any of these people are related, and if so how, >> but they are all in German which I cannot read. If someone could >> translate >> these records I would be very greatful. >> >> >> >> Thank you for whatever information you might find. >> >> Scott >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Brian, the presence of a surname in different areas doesn't always imply that they are related. Surnames derived from an occupation, such as Armbruster (crossbow maker or user), are often widespread and there are many unrelated bearers all over German-speaking regions. The name Armsbruster was mentionned in Alsace as early as 1398 and frequent during the 1400's. See: http://www.cdhf.net/fr/index.php?t=bases&d=bases/notices&c=notices&f=selection&order=nom1&nom1=armbruster Etienne Le 4 déc. 12 à 04:34, Brian J Densmore a écrit : > This probably won't be of much help. > > Armbruster is a very common name just over the river in Baden. I have > numerous Armbrusters in my tree from there. I suspect at some point an > Armbruster wandered a bit and wound up in Alsace, just as I > occasionally > run into an Alsatian in my Baden records. > > In fact the Armbruster name is so common in the close by Baden > villages, > that I wouldn't want to have to dig through those haystacks. > > My Armbrusters are far back, and few. I've not delved deeply there > yet. > Aloys(ius) is not an uncommon name for an Armbruster, but I have only > three women, and the one instance where I have any indication of a > parent > is highly speculative and likely incorrect, at a point where the > records > end for the village, around 1670. > > You might post a query to the Baden, Ortenau, and/or Urloffen mailing > lists. There are Armbruster researchers out there. You might get > lucky. > > Brian

I thought I said that. Or maybe I just implied that. I certainly did not mean to imply a familial connection in a name which I specified was "very common". One should assume the more common a name, the less likely any given family is related. I guess, I didn't think I needed to clarify that. Armbruster is a profesion surname, like Muller. A crossbow man/maker. The Ortenau in Baden had a large number of Crossbow makers, possibly due to the abundance of trees, and hence a lot of towns had crossbow makers or soldiers skilled with a crossbow, resulting in a lot of unrelated people with the same surname, and I suspect it was not much different in Alsace or the Black Forest. Hence, I wouldn't want to try to locate an Armbruster in the haystack of towns in Baden. I've not seen nearly as many Armbrusters in Alsace, but certainly I have seen some. But the same warning applies. It's a profession name, and hence dangerous to try to link families by surname alone. I was merely implying that Armbrusters were much more numerous in Baden than in Alsace. Although, my original advice still holds. There are a number of Armbruster researchers in the lists I mentioned, and they may have tips, hints, clues etc., and it was not uncommon for people to travel back and forth between the two regions. People who specialize in family names tend to gather a wide ranging list of unconnected families. Advice had already been given on a best jumping off point for further research in Alsace. Hence my caveat, that my post may be of little to no use, but was offered as a contact for others interested in the surname. Brian On Wed, December 5, 2012 2:47 pm, Etienne Herrbach wrote: > Brian, > > the presence of a surname in different areas doesn't always imply that > they are related. Surnames derived from an occupation, such as > Armbruster (crossbow maker or user), are often widespread and there > are many unrelated bearers all over German-speaking regions. > > The name Armsbruster was mentionned in Alsace as early as 1398 and > frequent during the 1400's. As one would expect, when armbrusters were in high demand. > > Le 4 déc. 12 à 04:34, Brian J Densmore a écrit : > >> This probably won't be of much help. >> >> Armbruster is a very common name just over the river in Baden. I have >> numerous Armbrusters in my tree from there. I suspect at some point an >> Armbruster wandered a bit and wound up in Alsace, just as I >> occasionally >> run into an Alsatian in my Baden records. >>