Dear Robert, there is an association working of Anabaptist-Mennonite history : Association française d'histoire ANABAPTISTE ET MENNONITE 4, Grande Rue 70400 COUTHENANS Publications :Souvenance anabaptiste (annuel) thierry.huckel@wanadoo.fr For Sainte Marie aux Mines (in the valley so-called "Val d'Argent") : http://liepvre.pagesperso-orange.fr/html/genealogies.htm Merry Christmas to all listers Etienne Le 21 déc. 12 à 23:03, Robert Carpenter a écrit : > Dear list, > > I have been searching for my Zimmerman ancestors for some years. > They moved from Steffisburg in Switzerland to Alsace during the late > 1690's and early 1700's. Initially settling near Markirch, St Marie > aux Mines, they later moved to the Vosges area of Salm. > > I have searched many parish records with limited success because > these Zimmermans were Anabaptist and some were Amish with Jakob > Ammann. > > I am interested in working with a researcher in the area who may be > able to access civil and governmental records. > > I appreciate any suggestions from the list. > > Robert Carpenter

Thanks Etienne, I appreciate your suggestions. I will pursue them after Christmas. Robert Carpenter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Etienne Herrbach" <etienne.herrbach@wanadoo.fr> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:25 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] Need for a researcher Dear Robert, there is an association working of Anabaptist-Mennonite history : Association française d'histoire ANABAPTISTE ET MENNONITE 4, Grande Rue 70400 COUTHENANS Publications :Souvenance anabaptiste (annuel) thierry.huckel@wanadoo.fr For Sainte Marie aux Mines (in the valley so-called "Val d'Argent") : http://liepvre.pagesperso-orange.fr/html/genealogies.htm Merry Christmas to all listers Etienne Le 21 déc. 12 à 23:03, Robert Carpenter a écrit : > Dear list, > > I have been searching for my Zimmerman ancestors for some years. > They moved from Steffisburg in Switzerland to Alsace during the late > 1690's and early 1700's. Initially settling near Markirch, St Marie > aux Mines, they later moved to the Vosges area of Salm. > > I have searched many parish records with limited success because > these Zimmermans were Anabaptist and some were Amish with Jakob > Ammann. > > I am interested in working with a researcher in the area who may be > able to access civil and governmental records. > > I appreciate any suggestions from the list. > > Robert Carpenter -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear list, I have been searching for my Zimmerman ancestors for some years. They moved from Steffisburg in Switzerland to Alsace during the late 1690's and early 1700's. Initially settling near Markirch, St Marie aux Mines, they later moved to the Vosges area of Salm. I have searched many parish records with limited success because these Zimmermans were Anabaptist and some were Amish with Jakob Ammann. I am interested in working with a researcher in the area who may be able to access civil and governmental records. I appreciate any suggestions from the list. Robert Carpenter

Etienne, I¹ve tried 3 times in the last three days to send my response to your 15 Dec email about Madeleine WILD in 1824. All three times, along with a returned email, I¹ve received this memo: > 550 mwinf5c16 ME Service refuse. Veuillez essayer plus tard. Service refused, > please try later. OFR006_103 68.230.241.143 [103] I¹ve had the exact same message with a 3-times-returned email to another Alsatian friend who also has a wanadoo.fr address. Want you to know I¹ll keep trying. Cari Thomas

RE: the comments on notarial records: If you're lucky enough to have ancestry in Bas-Rhin's Weiterswiller, local historian François Schunk has very graciously posted in his wonderful Weiterswiller webpages: <http://www.alouette-bleue.fr/SiteWeiters/accueil.html> 1) the Aug 1804 through May 1830 notarial acts of Me. Jean Pierre Dieterich And 2) the May 1830 to Feb 1839 notarial acts of Me. Klipfel, successor of Me.Dieterich. What might you find? Among other ancestral records, I found the sale of Ingwiller property, by the mother of the bride to the bride and groom (my 3rd-great-grandparents) exactly one month prior to their 28 Dec 1824 wedding. V - #125 - 28 novembre 1824 Vente pour 300 F par Madelaine Wild, fille majeure, Weiterswiller à Frédéric Müller, garçon majeur, Ingwiller, et Catherine Wild fille majeure, Weiterswiller, les deux acceptant par moitié une petite maison d'habitation avec droits, aisances, appartenances et dépendances, d'un côté Bernard Bauer, de l'autre Kahn Moïse, par devant Chrétien Jacob, par derrière le jardin du dit Chrétien Jacob, que la venderesse a acquise des conjoints Léopold Bloch, suivant contrat reçu par + Me Dieterich, notaire à Neuwiller le 18.2.1810. You'll find the links listed under *Généalogie* in the listing on left. For those of you who'd like to see a fantastic website for both the genealogy and history of a community, browse through this site! With sincere thanks to François Schunk, Cari Thomas PS: you might search the web for similar web pages of other communities by local historians.

Paul, These records are consultable at the Archives Departementales (Strasbourg for Bas-Rhin, Colmar for Haut-Rhin). The notariat of some places has (partly) been collected and published by some researchers. For Haut-Rhin, these publications be purchased from the CDHF: <http://www.cdhf.net/fr/index.php?t=bases&d=bases%2Fpublications&c=publications&f=selection&order=rubrique&order2=1&motcle=&rubrique=Notariat%2Bancien > For Bas-Rhin, see : <http://www.alsace-genealogie.com/spip.php?article4> Etienne Le 9 déc. 12 à 15:30, idirlion@me.com a écrit : > How would one go about getting these? > > Paul > > On Dé Domhnaigh, 9 Nollaig, 2012, at 06:16, Etienne Herrbach <etienne.herrbach@wanadoo.fr > > wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> No, notarial records (wills, death inventories, marriage >> contracts, ...) are not on line for Alsace. >> >> Etienne >> >> >> >> >> Le 9 déc. 12 à 14:36, idirlion@me.com a écrit : >> >>> I have found many BMD records on the adeloch site. >>> >>> Now, I would like to try to find my ancestors' wills and probate >>> materials. >>> >>> Are any of those documents online? >>> >>> I would be interested in records starting around 1820, and going >>> backwards. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Paul >> >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine- >> L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Paul, No, notarial records (wills, death inventories, marriage contracts, ...) are not on line for Alsace. Etienne Le 9 déc. 12 à 14:36, idirlion@me.com a écrit : > I have found many BMD records on the adeloch site. > > Now, I would like to try to find my ancestors' wills and probate > materials. > > Are any of those documents online? > > I would be interested in records starting around 1820, and going > backwards. > > Thanks. > > Paul

How would one go about getting these? Paul On Dé Domhnaigh, 9 Nollaig, 2012, at 06:16, Etienne Herrbach <etienne.herrbach@wanadoo.fr> wrote: > Hi Paul, > > No, notarial records (wills, death inventories, marriage > contracts, ...) are not on line for Alsace. > > Etienne > > > > > Le 9 déc. 12 à 14:36, idirlion@me.com a écrit : > >> I have found many BMD records on the adeloch site. >> >> Now, I would like to try to find my ancestors' wills and probate >> materials. >> >> Are any of those documents online? >> >> I would be interested in records starting around 1820, and going >> backwards. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Paul > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found many BMD records on the adeloch site. Now, I would like to try to find my ancestors' wills and probate materials. Are any of those documents online? I would be interested in records starting around 1820, and going backwards. Thanks. Paul

Brian, the presence of a surname in different areas doesn't always imply that they are related. Surnames derived from an occupation, such as Armbruster (crossbow maker or user), are often widespread and there are many unrelated bearers all over German-speaking regions. The name Armsbruster was mentionned in Alsace as early as 1398 and frequent during the 1400's. See: http://www.cdhf.net/fr/index.php?t=bases&d=bases/notices&c=notices&f=selection&order=nom1&nom1=armbruster Etienne Le 4 déc. 12 à 04:34, Brian J Densmore a écrit : > This probably won't be of much help. > > Armbruster is a very common name just over the river in Baden. I have > numerous Armbrusters in my tree from there. I suspect at some point an > Armbruster wandered a bit and wound up in Alsace, just as I > occasionally > run into an Alsatian in my Baden records. > > In fact the Armbruster name is so common in the close by Baden > villages, > that I wouldn't want to have to dig through those haystacks. > > My Armbrusters are far back, and few. I've not delved deeply there > yet. > Aloys(ius) is not an uncommon name for an Armbruster, but I have only > three women, and the one instance where I have any indication of a > parent > is highly speculative and likely incorrect, at a point where the > records > end for the village, around 1670. > > You might post a query to the Baden, Ortenau, and/or Urloffen mailing > lists. There are Armbruster researchers out there. You might get > lucky. > > Brian

I thought I said that. Or maybe I just implied that. I certainly did not mean to imply a familial connection in a name which I specified was "very common". One should assume the more common a name, the less likely any given family is related. I guess, I didn't think I needed to clarify that. Armbruster is a profesion surname, like Muller. A crossbow man/maker. The Ortenau in Baden had a large number of Crossbow makers, possibly due to the abundance of trees, and hence a lot of towns had crossbow makers or soldiers skilled with a crossbow, resulting in a lot of unrelated people with the same surname, and I suspect it was not much different in Alsace or the Black Forest. Hence, I wouldn't want to try to locate an Armbruster in the haystack of towns in Baden. I've not seen nearly as many Armbrusters in Alsace, but certainly I have seen some. But the same warning applies. It's a profession name, and hence dangerous to try to link families by surname alone. I was merely implying that Armbrusters were much more numerous in Baden than in Alsace. Although, my original advice still holds. There are a number of Armbruster researchers in the lists I mentioned, and they may have tips, hints, clues etc., and it was not uncommon for people to travel back and forth between the two regions. People who specialize in family names tend to gather a wide ranging list of unconnected families. Advice had already been given on a best jumping off point for further research in Alsace. Hence my caveat, that my post may be of little to no use, but was offered as a contact for others interested in the surname. Brian On Wed, December 5, 2012 2:47 pm, Etienne Herrbach wrote: > Brian, > > the presence of a surname in different areas doesn't always imply that > they are related. Surnames derived from an occupation, such as > Armbruster (crossbow maker or user), are often widespread and there > are many unrelated bearers all over German-speaking regions. > > The name Armsbruster was mentionned in Alsace as early as 1398 and > frequent during the 1400's. As one would expect, when armbrusters were in high demand. > > Le 4 déc. 12 à 04:34, Brian J Densmore a écrit : > >> This probably won't be of much help. >> >> Armbruster is a very common name just over the river in Baden. I have >> numerous Armbrusters in my tree from there. I suspect at some point an >> Armbruster wandered a bit and wound up in Alsace, just as I >> occasionally >> run into an Alsatian in my Baden records. >>

Congrats Peggy! Does this mean you no longer need me to continue searching through local source for St. Louis? I'm happy to continue as time allows. Unfortunately, time isn't allowing much right now. Regards, Brian On Sun, November 4, 2012 6:24 pm, Peggie Sevem wrote: > I recently discovered (after decades of searching)that my grandfather Otto > Sauvain came from Sundoffen France.Which is a small french village in > north east France. He arrived in St Louis co between 1882 and 1889. I know > he was Lutheran. Does anyone know how I might get records from this area > and does anyone have any idea what port he would have left from? > Thanks in advance for any help. > Peggie Sevem

This probably won't be of much help. Armbruster is a very common name just over the river in Baden. I have numerous Armbrusters in my tree from there. I suspect at some point an Armbruster wandered a bit and wound up in Alsace, just as I occasionally run into an Alsatian in my Baden records. In fact the Armbruster name is so common in the close by Baden villages, that I wouldn't want to have to dig through those haystacks. My Armbrusters are far back, and few. I've not delved deeply there yet. Aloys(ius) is not an uncommon name for an Armbruster, but I have only three women, and the one instance where I have any indication of a parent is highly speculative and likely incorrect, at a point where the records end for the village, around 1670. You might post a query to the Baden, Ortenau, and/or Urloffen mailing lists. There are Armbruster researchers out there. You might get lucky. Brian On Fri, November 23, 2012 5:45 pm, Ewald K. wrote: > Hi, > > According to his marriage record (Bollwiller marriages 1793-1862, number > 9, > page 384), Aloïse Jean-Baptiste ARMBRUSTER was primary school teacher and > resided in Cernay (Haut-Rhin). > > By searching the death records of Cernay, I found: > Aloïse ARMBRUSTER, 49 years, book-keeper (Rechnungsführer/comptable) d. in > Cernay (Sennheim in German language) 21 Aug. 1882. > His wife Eugénie BAUMANN was alive and lived in Cernay at that time. > source : Death record n° 81, page 1185, "Cernay, Décès, 1851-1882" > > By Googling, I found also that: > - a Mr ARMBRUSTER (no given name), primary school teacher in Cernay, > became > primary school inspector in Mulhouse in 1865. > - a Mr ARMBRUSTER (no given name), was primary school inspector in Belfort > in 1875 and in 1877 > - a Mr ARMBRUSTER (no given name), primary school inspector, acted as > ("faisait fonction de") school inspector ("inspecteur d'Académie) in > Belfort > (1875, 1876) > > Hope this helps. > > All the best from Alsace > > Ewald > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Scotty B." <wsb221@stny.rr.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 5:51 PM > To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [A-L] Birth Records in Bollwiller > >> Hello Listers and Helpers, >> >> >> I am on another quest here and would appreciate some assistance if >> possible. >> I am looking for family members of Aloise Jean Baptiste Armsbruster who >> married Eugenie Josephine Julie Baumann on May 18, 1861 in Bollwiller, >> Alsace Lorraine, France. I do not know of any known children or where >> this >> couple lives after marrying. Makes it hard to find family. >> I was in the Bollwiller cemetery a month ago and saw an ?Armbruster? >> grave. Had no names on it. however I contacted a friend in Bollwiller >> who >> was able to provide me with the following: >> Pour r?pondre ? votre question concernant la tombe de la famille >> Armbruster, je peux vous communiquer les d?funts qui y reposent : >> - Schneider Th?r?se d?c?d?e le 5.04.1936 ? Bollwiller >> - Schneider Jos?phine, d?c?d?e le 24.9.1950 ? Bollwiller >> - Armbruster n?e Hryciw H?l?ne, d?c?d?e le 04.03.1977 ? Colmar >> - Armbruster Godefroi, d?c?d? le 16.07.2002 ? Mulhouse. >> >> A: I have found the following in Bollwiller, Naissances, 1883-1892 on >> page 200, Acte # 1 for a _______ Schneider. This acte appears to have >> a >> lot of information but I am not sure if this is a related family to the >> above or not and would greatly appreciate it if someone could please >> look >> at that ?acte? and decipher it for me. I am thinking that perhaps the >> mother of one of the mentioned Schneider?s mentioned above was perhaps >> an >> Armbruster, although I have not found any Armbrusters? born in >> Bollwiller, >> yet. >> >> B: Also I have found On Page 162 of the same Index I have found >> another >> record # 12 for a Schneider born in April of 1891??? for a Leotina >> Schneider. This gives some information about her marriage I think and >> death but I can?t tell if it lists her parents. >> >> C: I have found on page 160 of same book of births, same year, a >> record for a Josephina Schneider and would appreciate whatever >> information is listed on this document. >> >> D: And finally for tonight on page 158 I have found a record for an >> Anna Schneider born in February of that year. >> I do not know if any of these people are related, and if so how, >> but they are all in German which I cannot read. If someone could >> translate >> these records I would be very greatful. >> >> >> >> Thank you for whatever information you might find. >> >> Scott >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

No, not at all, I need all the help I can get. In fact I may have made to big of a leap to Sundoffen. It did not come from any of his records. It came from a death record of some one on his church. So I may be completely wrong. I certainly appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks again, Peggie --- On Mon, 12/3/12, Brian J Densmore <brian@amason.net> wrote: > From: Brian J Densmore <brian@amason.net> > Subject: Re: [A-L] Sundhoffen France > To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, December 3, 2012, 9:57 PM > Congrats Peggy! > > Does this mean you no longer need me to continue searching > through local > source for St. Louis? > I'm happy to continue as time allows. Unfortunately, time > isn't allowing > much right now. > > Regards, > Brian > > On Sun, November 4, 2012 6:24 pm, Peggie Sevem wrote: > > I recently discovered (after decades of searching)that > my grandfather Otto > > Sauvain came from Sundoffen France.Which is a small > french village in > > north east France. He arrived in St Louis co between > 1882 and 1889. I know > > he was Lutheran. Does anyone know how I might get > records from this area > > and does anyone have any idea what port he would have > left from? > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Peggie Sevem > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm  > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Many free resources http://sites.google.com/site/freegermanancestry/<https://sites.google.com/site/freegermanancestry/> Alfreda

Hello there Ewald, In response to the following information which you submitted for me: Message: 1 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 00:45:49 +0100 From: "Ewald K." <ewald.klein@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [A-L] Birth Records in Bollwiller To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <3C65A9C8A6AC436CAC1D0A78FA7EC8B3@KleinPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi, According to his marriage record (Bollwiller marriages 1793-1862, number 9, page 384), Alo?se Jean-Baptiste ARMBRUSTER was primary school teacher and resided in Cernay (Haut-Rhin). By searching the death records of Cernay, I found: Alo?se ARMBRUSTER, 49 years, book-keeper (Rechnungsf?hrer/comptable) d. in Cernay (Sennheim in German language) 21 Aug. 1882. His wife Eug?nie BAUMANN was alive and lived in Cernay at that time. source : Death record n? 81, page 1185, "Cernay, D?c?s, 1851-1882" By Googling, I found also that: - a Mr ARMBRUSTER (no given name), primary school teacher in Cernay, became primary school inspector in Mulhouse in 1865. - a Mr ARMBRUSTER (no given name), was primary school inspector in Belfort in 1875 and in 1877 - a Mr ARMBRUSTER (no given name), primary school inspector, acted as ("faisait fonction de") school inspector ("inspecteur d'Acad?mie) in Belfort (1875, 1876) Hope this helps. All the best from Alsace Ewald -------------------------------------------------- I want to THANK YOU so much. I can’t tell you how much this information helps me out and how much I appreciate your input. I did NOT know this information and will certainly help me locate their families if they had children etc. The various and numerous people who help translate, find information and supply helpful guidelines on this website is so much appreciated by me and many others. Thank you Ewald, Etienne and others. Scott Baumann

Hi, According to his marriage record (Bollwiller marriages 1793-1862, number 9, page 384), Aloïse Jean-Baptiste ARMBRUSTER was primary school teacher and resided in Cernay (Haut-Rhin). By searching the death records of Cernay, I found: Aloïse ARMBRUSTER, 49 years, book-keeper (Rechnungsführer/comptable) d. in Cernay (Sennheim in German language) 21 Aug. 1882. His wife Eugénie BAUMANN was alive and lived in Cernay at that time. source : Death record n° 81, page 1185, "Cernay, Décès, 1851-1882" By Googling, I found also that: - a Mr ARMBRUSTER (no given name), primary school teacher in Cernay, became primary school inspector in Mulhouse in 1865. - a Mr ARMBRUSTER (no given name), was primary school inspector in Belfort in 1875 and in 1877 - a Mr ARMBRUSTER (no given name), primary school inspector, acted as ("faisait fonction de") school inspector ("inspecteur d'Académie) in Belfort (1875, 1876) Hope this helps. All the best from Alsace Ewald -------------------------------------------------- From: "Scotty B." <wsb221@stny.rr.com> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 5:51 PM To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [A-L] Birth Records in Bollwiller > Hello Listers and Helpers, > > > I am on another quest here and would appreciate some assistance if > possible. > I am looking for family members of Aloise Jean Baptiste Armsbruster who > married Eugenie Josephine Julie Baumann on May 18, 1861 in Bollwiller, > Alsace Lorraine, France. I do not know of any known children or where this > couple lives after marrying. Makes it hard to find family. > I was in the Bollwiller cemetery a month ago and saw an ?Armbruster? > grave. Had no names on it. however I contacted a friend in Bollwiller who > was able to provide me with the following: > Pour r?pondre ? votre question concernant la tombe de la famille > Armbruster, je peux vous communiquer les d?funts qui y reposent : > - Schneider Th?r?se d?c?d?e le 5.04.1936 ? Bollwiller > - Schneider Jos?phine, d?c?d?e le 24.9.1950 ? Bollwiller > - Armbruster n?e Hryciw H?l?ne, d?c?d?e le 04.03.1977 ? Colmar > - Armbruster Godefroi, d?c?d? le 16.07.2002 ? Mulhouse. > > A: I have found the following in Bollwiller, Naissances, 1883-1892 on > page 200, Acte # 1 for a _______ Schneider. This acte appears to have a > lot of information but I am not sure if this is a related family to the > above or not and would greatly appreciate it if someone could please look > at that ?acte? and decipher it for me. I am thinking that perhaps the > mother of one of the mentioned Schneider?s mentioned above was perhaps an > Armbruster, although I have not found any Armbrusters? born in Bollwiller, > yet. > > B: Also I have found On Page 162 of the same Index I have found another > record # 12 for a Schneider born in April of 1891??? for a Leotina > Schneider. This gives some information about her marriage I think and > death but I can?t tell if it lists her parents. > > C: I have found on page 160 of same book of births, same year, a > record for a Josephina Schneider and would appreciate whatever > information is listed on this document. > > D: And finally for tonight on page 158 I have found a record for an > Anna Schneider born in February of that year. > I do not know if any of these people are related, and if so how, > but they are all in German which I cannot read. If someone could translate > these records I would be very greatful. > > > > Thank you for whatever information you might find. > > Scott > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers and Helpers, I am on another quest here and would appreciate some assistance if possible. I am looking for family members of Aloise Jean Baptiste Armsbruster who married Eugenie Josephine Julie Baumann on May 18, 1861 in Bollwiller, Alsace Lorraine, France. I do not know of any known children or where this couple lives after marrying. Makes it hard to find family. I was in the Bollwiller cemetery a month ago and saw an ?Armbruster? grave. Had no names on it. however I contacted a friend in Bollwiller who was able to provide me with the following: Pour r?pondre ? votre question concernant la tombe de la famille Armbruster, je peux vous communiquer les d?funts qui y reposent : - Schneider Th?r?se d?c?d?e le 5.04.1936 ? Bollwiller - Schneider Jos?phine, d?c?d?e le 24.9.1950 ? Bollwiller - Armbruster n?e Hryciw H?l?ne, d?c?d?e le 04.03.1977 ? Colmar - Armbruster Godefroi, d?c?d? le 16.07.2002 ? Mulhouse. A: I have found the following in Bollwiller, Naissances, 1883-1892 on page 200, Acte # 1 for a _______ Schneider. This acte appears to have a lot of information but I am not sure if this is a related family to the above or not and would greatly appreciate it if someone could please look at that ?acte? and decipher it for me. I am thinking that perhaps the mother of one of the mentioned Schneider?s mentioned above was perhaps an Armbruster, although I have not found any Armbrusters? born in Bollwiller, yet. B: Also I have found On Page 162 of the same Index I have found another record # 12 for a Schneider born in April of 1891??? for a Leotina Schneider. This gives some information about her marriage I think and death but I can?t tell if it lists her parents. C: I have found on page 160 of same book of births, same year, a record for a Josephina Schneider and would appreciate whatever information is listed on this document. D: And finally for tonight on page 158 I have found a record for an Anna Schneider born in February of that year. I do not know if any of these people are related, and if so how, but they are all in German which I cannot read. If someone could translate these records I would be very greatful. Thank you for whatever information you might find. Scott

Looking through the index for Armbuster, I can find only one close match. The is a marriage between Hubert Armspach and Maria Luise Larger, dated 15 Jan 1888, Page 43, Bollwiller Marriages, 1883-1892. If this is of interest, you might want to try looking at Wittelsheim, where he was born, 20 Jul 1857, to Ludwig and Magdalena Schott. On 11/22/2012 8:51 AM, Scotty B. wrote: Hello Listers and Helpers, I am on another quest here and would appreciate some assistance if possible. I am looking for family members of Aloise Jean Baptiste Armsbruster who married Eugenie Josephine Julie Baumann on May 18, 1861 in Bollwiller, Alsace Lorraine , France. I do not know of any known children or where this couple lives after marrying. Makes it hard to find family. I was in the Bollwiller cemetery a month ago and saw an ?Armbruster? grave. Had no names on it. however I contacted a friend in Bollwiller who was able to provide me with the following: Pour r?pondre ? votre question concernant la tombe de la famille Armbruster, je peux vous communiquer les d?funts qui y reposent : - Schneider Th?r?se d?c?d?e le 5.04.1936 ? Bollwiller - Schneider Jos?phine, d?c?d?e le 24.9.1950 ? Bollwiller - Armbruster n?e Hryciw H?l?ne, d?c?d?e le 04.03.1977 ? Colmar - Armbruster Godefroi, d?c?d? le 16.07.2002 ? Mulhouse. A: I have found the following in Bollwiller, Naissances, 1883-1892 on page 200, Acte # 1 for a _______ Schneider. This acte appears to have a lot of inf ormation but I am not sure if this is a related family to the above or not and would greatly appreciate it if someone could please look at that ?acte? and dec ipher it for me. I am thinking that perhaps the mother of one of the mentione d Schneider?s mentioned above was perhaps an Armbruster, although I have not fo und any Armbrusters? born in Bollwiller, yet. B: Also I have found On Page 162 of the same Index I have found another rec ord # 12 for a Schneider born in April of 1891??? for a Leotina Schneider. Thi s gives some information about her marriage I think and death but I can?t tell if it lists her parents. C: I have found on page 160 of same book of births, same year, a record fo r a Josephina Schneider and would appreciate whatever information is listed on this document. D: And finally for tonight on page 158 I have found a record for an Anna S chneider born in February of that year. I do not know if any of these people are related, and if so how, but t hey are all in German which I cannot read. If someone could translate these rec ords I would be very greatful. Thank you for whatever information you might find. Scott

No promises, but I can take a look, Jacquie. Send me your records via email and I'll look them over. Your fellow FHC Staff Member, Beverly Zanon -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-request <alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com> To: alsace-lorraine <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:05 am Subject: ALSACE-LORRAINE Digest, Vol 7, Issue 217 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 06:53:03 -0600 From: "Fred and Jacquie Schattner" <eatatfreds@comcast.net> Subject: [A-L] I can't read a mothers maiden name in old German script To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001cdc71d$faf9b420$f0ed1c60$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I can send the files. ( I have several examples, different children, same parents). Can someone take a look? Thanks, Jacquie *****************