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    1. [A-L] Brauns
    2. mjwarren

    3. I need help please trying to figure something out: In the Cahier Sairepa No 71 for Lautenbach and Linthal, under Marriages, 17-2-1654 is Joannes Brun and Anna Glad. Under Baptisms, 26-1-1655 is Joannes Jacobus - Illeg. Would this be their son? Does Illeg. mean illegitimate? If so, they were married in 1654 so why would he be illegitimate? Also, their son's name was Baltasar, not Joannes Jacobus. So could you tell me how this might be connected? Thank you. PS Do you know where I could find a list of abbreviations, etc that appear in these research books? Like (sign.+) Mary Jo

    01/21/2013 07:41:29
    1. [A-L] reposting for Gresswiller help needed
    2. gloria ishida

    3. I apologize but am reposting from last week. On Alsace Bas Rhine site. I have searched and searched Gresswiller and Mutz for an ancestral grandfather, Sebastien Bour, about 1715-1725 in Gresswiller, he later moving to Phalsbourg, the records of which are not online yet! But I did find two other later Bours (Baur) in Gresswiller. I get the basic information in Latin fairly well, but beed help on some of the names. Gresswiller, Catholique paroisses Baptisms, B-1727-1792 Fidelis Bour (Baur) Image 66 of 145 1759 (?) left side, 2nd down What is the father's name given name? and his parents, if recorded. I understand the mother's, her father. Her mother Catherina Schwenn (?) Godparents' names at bottom And same record dates as Fidelis Anthony Bour (Baur) Image 80 of 145 1767 upper right Again I pretty much understand but what is Anthony's father's given name? The Matrina Catherine Hocher (???) and following her name, wife (uxor) etc. please. Also bottom signatures. Thank you, whoever can assist. This may help in finding Sebastien. Gloria Ishida

    01/21/2013 03:08:13
    1. [A-L] BAUR - Bour in Gresswiller
    2. Carolyn J Thomas

    3. Hi Gloria, I think these records have almost classic examples of the abbreviated ­us ending, noted by Kenneth L Smith on page 32 of his excellent book, ³German Church Books: Beyond the Basics². Good luck with your BAUR/BOUR. Cari Thomas No guarantees, but here¹s my take on your two records: >>Gloria Ishida <gfb-ishida@gol.com>requested: >>Gresswiller, Catholique paroisses Baptisms, B-1727-1792 >>Fidelis Bour (Baur) Image 66 of 145 >>1759 (?) >>left side, 2nd down >>What is the father's name given name? and his parents, if recorded. I understand the mother's, her father. Her mother Catherina Schwenn (?) Godparents' names at bottom > Fidelis, Filius Arsenius Baur > > Mother: Francisca Hienliger-in (or Hierliger-in) [beginning of 3rd line] > > Matrini/sponsors: Anna Catharina Luk-in, d/o Jacob Luk; and Anna Catharina > Schwender-in > > 1st Signature: Sorry....the ³Matrina² at end of name throws me, since I do not > ³see² an Anna, Catharina, Luk, or Schwender in that line of 1, 2 or 3 names. > 2nd Signature: Arsenÿuss [[Arseniuß, makes me think of the name: Arsenio > Hall!)]] Baur [ess-zet at end of given name] >>And same record dates as Fidelis >>Anthony Bour (Baur) Image 80 of 145 >>1767 >>upper right >>Again I pretty much understand but what is Anthony's father's given name? The Matrina Catherine Hocher (???) and following her name, wife (uxor) etc. please. Also bottom signatures. > Antonius, Filius Arsenius Baur > > Mother: Francisca Hirlinger [beginning of 4th line] > > Patri/sponsors: Joannius [Johannius] > Matrina: Catharina Socher/Secher wife of Antonius Kien??????? > Matrina: Sealomi ?????? > > 1st Signature: Hanss Jacob [Huntzinger ?] [ess-zet at end of given name] > 2nd Signature: ??ola + Matrina [[her mark as godparent/sponsor] > 3rd Signature: Arseniuss Baur [ess-zet at end of given name]

    01/21/2013 02:53:25
    1. Re: [A-L] ALSACE-LORRAINE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 11

    3. Azz Sent from my Nokia phone -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 01/20/2013 3:00:39 AM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: ALSACE-LORRAINE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 11 Plain digests are sent to users with all posts listed in one long email. For most subscribers, MIME digests will appear with all posts as individual attachments. The default digest delivery is Plain. If you want your digest in MIME, please write me directly: Alsace-Lorraine-admin@rootsweb.com When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ********* Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ********* Today's Topics: 1. Re: Help with surname (Etienne Herrbach) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:07:00 +0100 From: Etienne Herrbach <etienne.herrbach@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: [A-L] Help with surname To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <A1F55D87-15B0-401A-9C10-7CDD065609A9@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi Joan, for me, HIEGENEL, etc. is rather of French origin: likely HUGUENEL - HUGUENEY, etc. (meaning "little Hugues"). A German origin seems very unlikely. You surely know that Bischwiller had a "Eglise R?form?e fran?aise" = French-speaking Reformed Church, beside a German-speaking Reformed Church and a Lutheran Church. The French church gathered French Protestants who fled the persecution in France and settled in Bischwiller, during the period 1617-1621. Not surprising that there are so many French surnames there. Best wishes from snowy Alsace Etienne Le 18 janv. 13 ? 18:22, Joan McCullough a ?crit : > This list was so helpful this past week, helping Shannon narrow her > search to find the origin of her rare surname Decouvy. I too have > hunted endlessly to find the origin of the surname Higenell - > Hiegenell- > Huegenel - and any other variations. I don't know if it is even > French > or German? > > I know Pierre (Peter) Higenell, born circa 1754 and died in Trimbach, > Bas Rhin 1785. He married Margaretha Fritz, and they had one son, > Peter, born posthumously 1785. > > There is a clan of Higenells in Bischwiller, and there is a Peter > Higenell born about the right time frame. However when I followed the > line through, it proved not to be my line. This Peter in > Bischwiller, b > cira 1754 did marry and continued to have children past 1785. I was > so > hopeful at the time. > > Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated > joan ------------------------------ To contact the ALSACE-LORRAINE list administrator, send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ALSACE-LORRAINE mailing list, send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ALSACE-LORRAINE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 11 **********************************************

    01/20/2013 11:48:33
    1. Re: [A-L] need translation for this web page
    2. Etienne Herrbach

    3. Ho Robert, your question doesn't seem to have been answered yet. Saint Pierre Bois & Hohwarth, birth no. 24, Thérèse JESELL born Hohwarth 26 September 1836, 5 AM daughter of Louis JESELL, age 30, wine grower Hohwarth, and of Catherine MARCO, age 30, witnesses: Jacques MÜNCH, age 36, desservant (parish priest?) Sant Perre Bois, and Antoine MARCO, age 34, winegrower Hohwarth signatures: Ludwig Jesell, Münch, Antoine Marco, Marco mayor Hohwarth is an annex of Saint Pierre Bois (former Petersholtz). I have also a few ancestors (MEYER, ...) in these places. Etienne Le 15 janv. 13 à 10:57, Robert George a écrit : > Hi I need the following page translated for me it is Saint Pierre > Boise > birth Record for 1836 for Theresa Jessel i Need the name of her > parents the > entry can be found at #24 on page 8/12 thank you for your help.

    01/20/2013 10:17:32
    1. [A-L] Schoenau Germany - HANDSCHUMACHER FAMILY
    2. Linda Passwaters

    3. CHRISTIAN HANDSCHUMACHER ­ Born 1803 DORETHA WEBER ­ BORN 1803

    01/20/2013 06:07:30
    1. [A-L] DECOUVY

    3. Ewald posted a link to Haut Rhin immigrants not too long ago. www.archives.cg68.fr/GetDocument.ashx?id=1454 On page 53 (in box above picture of actual page of book) is a Francis Joseph Decouvy and the village he was from. He may fit into the family somewhere, and I thought you might like to know about him. Louise

    01/20/2013 06:00:59
    1. Re: [A-L] need translation for this web page
    2. Norma Adams

    3. Etienne Herrbach <etienne.herrbach@wanadoo.fr> wrote: >Ho Robert, > >your question doesn't seem to have been answered yet. > >Saint Pierre Bois & Hohwarth, birth no. 24, Thérèse JESELL >born Hohwarth 26 September 1836, 5 AM >daughter of Louis JESELL, age 30, wine grower Hohwarth, and of >Catherine MARCO, age 30, >witnesses: Jacques MÜNCH, age 36, desservant (parish priest?) Sant >Perre Bois, and Antoine MARCO, age 34, winegrower Hohwarth >signatures: Ludwig Jesell, Münch, Antoine Marco, Marco mayor > > >Hohwarth is an annex of Saint Pierre Bois (former Petersholtz). I >have also a few ancestors (MEYER, ...) in these places. > >Etienne > > > >Le 15 janv. 13 à 10:57, Robert George a écrit : > >> Hi I need the following page translated for me it is Saint Pierre >> Boise >> birth Record for 1836 for Theresa Jessel i Need the name of her >> parents the >> entry can be found at #24 on page 8/12 thank you for your help. > > >-- >Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/20/2013 04:25:38
    1. Re: [A-L] DECOUVY
    2. Shannon dean

    3. Thank you, Louise! -Shannon Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:00 AM, lhawthorne@aol.com wrote: > > > Ewald posted a link to Haut Rhin immigrants not too long ago. www.archives.cg68.fr/GetDocument.ashx?id=1454 > > On page 53 (in box above picture of actual page of book) is a Francis Joseph Decouvy and the village he was from. He may fit into the family somewhere, and I thought you might like to know about him. > > Louise > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/20/2013 03:15:20
    1. Re: [A-L] Help with surname
    2. Etienne Herrbach

    3. Hi Joan, for me, HIEGENEL, etc. is rather of French origin: likely HUGUENEL - HUGUENEY, etc. (meaning "little Hugues"). A German origin seems very unlikely. You surely know that Bischwiller had a "Eglise Réformée française" = French-speaking Reformed Church, beside a German-speaking Reformed Church and a Lutheran Church. The French church gathered French Protestants who fled the persecution in France and settled in Bischwiller, during the period 1617-1621. Not surprising that there are so many French surnames there. Best wishes from snowy Alsace Etienne Le 18 janv. 13 à 18:22, Joan McCullough a écrit : > This list was so helpful this past week, helping Shannon narrow her > search to find the origin of her rare surname Decouvy. I too have > hunted endlessly to find the origin of the surname Higenell - > Hiegenell- > Huegenel - and any other variations. I don't know if it is even > French > or German? > > I know Pierre (Peter) Higenell, born circa 1754 and died in Trimbach, > Bas Rhin 1785. He married Margaretha Fritz, and they had one son, > Peter, born posthumously 1785. > > There is a clan of Higenells in Bischwiller, and there is a Peter > Higenell born about the right time frame. However when I followed the > line through, it proved not to be my line. This Peter in > Bischwiller, b > cira 1754 did marry and continued to have children past 1785. I was > so > hopeful at the time. > > Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated > joan

    01/19/2013 05:07:00
    1. Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.?
    2. Ewald K.

    3. According to www. castlegarden.org http://castlegarden.org/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4898336 http://castlegarden.org/search_02.php?m_ship=glasgow&po_port=&p_first_name=&p_last_name=braun&o_occ=&co_country=&province=&town=&m_arr_date_start=1848&m_arr_date_end=1848&submit.x=35&submit.y=12 Xavier BRAUN 34 y. farmer, left Le Havre on the ship Glasgow and arrived in New York 5 Apr 1848 with wife Madeleine 28 y, children : Marie 4y and Chr. 1y Ewald -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sharon Waechter" <sharon@farwestern.com> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:59 PM To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > Mary Jo, > > There is a Xavier Braun listed as traveling with wife and two children (no > names given), birthplace Lauternbach-Zell. The date of emigration is > 1-24-1848, to New York (which probably means they went through Castle > Gardens). His profession is given as Farmer. Unfortunately that's all > there is, but the information came from "the Alsace Emigration Index, a > cardfile put on microfilm by the Mormon archives in Salt Lake City." > Perhaps you can get more from that source. > > Sharon > > ________________________________________ > From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com > [alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] on behalf of mjwarren > [mjwarren@eot.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:29 PM > To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > > Thank you, Sharon. His name was Xavier Braun and was married to Magdalena > Lindel. He was born 18 Apr 1813 and lived in Lautenbach Zell. He left for > America in January of 1848 from I think, Le Havre. He had two children, > Theophil and Mary (or Anna Marie). They left for New York but I don't know > the arrival date or the ship they were on. Somehow they located in > Missouri > but again I don't know if they took another ship or how they got there. > Any > help with these "loose ends" would be great! Thank you. > Mary Jo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Waechter" <sharon@farwestern.com> > To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:55 PM > Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > > >> Mary Jo, >> >> I will need family names to look up. >> >> Sharon >> >> >> >> Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. >> George Santayana >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mjwarren >> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:52 AM >> To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? >> >> Hi, Sharon, >> I am infringing on your email to Amanda and was wondering if you could >> look up something for me also. My great great grandfather came from >> Lautenbach Zell to the U.S. in 1848. Could you give me any details about >> it? Even the ship name if it is there. Thank you. >> Mary Jo >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sharon Waechter" <sharon@farwestern.com> >> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? >> >> >>> Amanda, >>> >>> If no one else has done it already, I can look it up tomorrow when I'm >>> in >>> my office. >>> >>> Sharon >>> >>> >>> Sharon A Waechter, M.A./RPA >>> Project Director/Editor >>> Far Western Anthropological Research Group, Inc. >>> 2727 Del Rio Place - Suite A >>> Davis, CA 95618 >>> 530.756.3941 >>> SharonW@farwestern.com >>> >>> Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. >>> George Santayana >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Carson >>> Banks >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:21 PM >>> To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? >>> >>> Could someone - would someone who has the The Alsace Emigration Book. >>> Vol. >>> 2. be willing to do a look-up for me? >>> >>> Georges Hammann - emigration 1867 - with wife and child - it is suppose >>> to >>> be on page 203 -- what else does it say? Names? Dates" birthplace? >>> >>> Oh thank you so so much >>> >>> Amanda >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> -- >>> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/18/2013 10:34:37
    1. Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.?
    2. Sharon Waechter

    3. Mary Jo, There is a Xavier Braun listed as traveling with wife and two children (no names given), birthplace Lauternbach-Zell. The date of emigration is 1-24-1848, to New York (which probably means they went through Castle Gardens). His profession is given as Farmer. Unfortunately that's all there is, but the information came from "the Alsace Emigration Index, a cardfile put on microfilm by the Mormon archives in Salt Lake City." Perhaps you can get more from that source. Sharon ________________________________________ From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] on behalf of mjwarren [mjwarren@eot.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:29 PM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? Thank you, Sharon. His name was Xavier Braun and was married to Magdalena Lindel. He was born 18 Apr 1813 and lived in Lautenbach Zell. He left for America in January of 1848 from I think, Le Havre. He had two children, Theophil and Mary (or Anna Marie). They left for New York but I don't know the arrival date or the ship they were on. Somehow they located in Missouri but again I don't know if they took another ship or how they got there. Any help with these "loose ends" would be great! Thank you. Mary Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Waechter" <sharon@farwestern.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > Mary Jo, > > I will need family names to look up. > > Sharon > > > > Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. > George Santayana > > > -----Original Message----- > From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mjwarren > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:52 AM > To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > > Hi, Sharon, > I am infringing on your email to Amanda and was wondering if you could > look up something for me also. My great great grandfather came from > Lautenbach Zell to the U.S. in 1848. Could you give me any details about > it? Even the ship name if it is there. Thank you. > Mary Jo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Waechter" <sharon@farwestern.com> > To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:30 AM > Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > > >> Amanda, >> >> If no one else has done it already, I can look it up tomorrow when I'm in >> my office. >> >> Sharon >> >> >> Sharon A Waechter, M.A./RPA >> Project Director/Editor >> Far Western Anthropological Research Group, Inc. >> 2727 Del Rio Place - Suite A >> Davis, CA 95618 >> 530.756.3941 >> SharonW@farwestern.com >> >> Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. >> George Santayana >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Carson >> Banks >> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:21 PM >> To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? >> >> Could someone - would someone who has the The Alsace Emigration Book. >> Vol. >> 2. be willing to do a look-up for me? >> >> Georges Hammann - emigration 1867 - with wife and child - it is suppose >> to >> be on page 203 -- what else does it say? Names? Dates" birthplace? >> >> Oh thank you so so much >> >> Amanda >> >> >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/18/2013 08:59:39
    1. Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.?
    2. Todd Carnes

    3. On 01/18/2013 10:59 AM, Sharon Waechter wrote: > which probably means they went through Castle Gardens I always forget about Castle Garden.

    01/18/2013 06:26:26
    1. Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.?

    3. January 24. Allen ------------ In a message dated 1/17/2013 10:30:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mjwarren@eot.com writes: He left for America in January* of 1848 from I think, Le Havre.

    01/18/2013 04:30:59
    1. Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.?
    2. mjwarren

    3. Thank you! I didn't know the Castle Garden part. Mary Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Waechter" <sharon@farwestern.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > Mary Jo, > > There is a Xavier Braun listed as traveling with wife and two children (no > names given), birthplace Lauternbach-Zell. The date of emigration is > 1-24-1848, to New York (which probably means they went through Castle > Gardens). His profession is given as Farmer. Unfortunately that's all > there is, but the information came from "the Alsace Emigration Index, a > cardfile put on microfilm by the Mormon archives in Salt Lake City." > Perhaps you can get more from that source. > > Sharon > > ________________________________________ > From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com > [alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] on behalf of mjwarren > [mjwarren@eot.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:29 PM > To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > > Thank you, Sharon. His name was Xavier Braun and was married to Magdalena > Lindel. He was born 18 Apr 1813 and lived in Lautenbach Zell. He left for > America in January of 1848 from I think, Le Havre. He had two children, > Theophil and Mary (or Anna Marie). They left for New York but I don't know > the arrival date or the ship they were on. Somehow they located in > Missouri > but again I don't know if they took another ship or how they got there. > Any > help with these "loose ends" would be great! Thank you. > Mary Jo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Waechter" <sharon@farwestern.com> > To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:55 PM > Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > > >> Mary Jo, >> >> I will need family names to look up. >> >> Sharon >> >> >> >> Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. >> George Santayana >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mjwarren >> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:52 AM >> To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? >> >> Hi, Sharon, >> I am infringing on your email to Amanda and was wondering if you could >> look up something for me also. My great great grandfather came from >> Lautenbach Zell to the U.S. in 1848. Could you give me any details about >> it? Even the ship name if it is there. Thank you. >> Mary Jo >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sharon Waechter" <sharon@farwestern.com> >> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? >> >> >>> Amanda, >>> >>> If no one else has done it already, I can look it up tomorrow when I'm >>> in >>> my office. >>> >>> Sharon >>> >>> >>> Sharon A Waechter, M.A./RPA >>> Project Director/Editor >>> Far Western Anthropological Research Group, Inc. >>> 2727 Del Rio Place - Suite A >>> Davis, CA 95618 >>> 530.756.3941 >>> SharonW@farwestern.com >>> >>> Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. >>> George Santayana >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Carson >>> Banks >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:21 PM >>> To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? >>> >>> Could someone - would someone who has the The Alsace Emigration Book. >>> Vol. >>> 2. be willing to do a look-up for me? >>> >>> Georges Hammann - emigration 1867 - with wife and child - it is suppose >>> to >>> be on page 203 -- what else does it say? Names? Dates" birthplace? >>> >>> Oh thank you so so much >>> >>> Amanda >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> -- >>> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/18/2013 03:34:46
    1. [A-L] Help with surname
    2. Joan McCullough

    3. This list was so helpful this past week, helping Shannon narrow her search to find the origin of her rare surname Decouvy. I too have hunted endlessly to find the origin of the surname Higenell - Hiegenell- Huegenel - and any other variations. I don't know if it is even French or German? I know Pierre (Peter) Higenell, born circa 1754 and died in Trimbach, Bas Rhin 1785. He married Margaretha Fritz, and they had one son, Peter, born posthumously 1785. There is a clan of Higenells in Bischwiller, and there is a Peter Higenell born about the right time frame. However when I followed the line through, it proved not to be my line. This Peter in Bischwiller, b cira 1754 did marry and continued to have children past 1785. I was so hopeful at the time. Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated joan

    01/18/2013 02:22:18
    1. Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.?
    2. Sharon Waechter

    3. Mary Jo, I will need family names to look up. Sharon Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. George Santayana -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mjwarren Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:52 AM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? Hi, Sharon, I am infringing on your email to Amanda and was wondering if you could look up something for me also. My great great grandfather came from Lautenbach Zell to the U.S. in 1848. Could you give me any details about it? Even the ship name if it is there. Thank you. Mary Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Waechter" <sharon@farwestern.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > Amanda, > > If no one else has done it already, I can look it up tomorrow when I'm in > my office. > > Sharon > > > Sharon A Waechter, M.A./RPA > Project Director/Editor > Far Western Anthropological Research Group, Inc. > 2727 Del Rio Place - Suite A > Davis, CA 95618 > 530.756.3941 > SharonW@farwestern.com > > Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. > George Santayana > > -----Original Message----- > From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Carson > Banks > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:21 PM > To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > > Could someone - would someone who has the The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. > 2. be willing to do a look-up for me? > > Georges Hammann - emigration 1867 - with wife and child - it is suppose to > be on page 203 -- what else does it say? Names? Dates" birthplace? > > Oh thank you so so much > > Amanda > > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/17/2013 05:55:07
    1. Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.?
    2. Sharon Waechter

    3. Certainly! Sharon A Waechter, M.A./RPA Project Director/Editor Far Western Anthropological Research Group, Inc. 2727 Del Rio Place - Suite A Davis, CA 95618 530.756.3941 SharonW@farwestern.com Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. George Santayana -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mjwarren Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:52 AM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? Hi, Sharon, I am infringing on your email to Amanda and was wondering if you could look up something for me also. My great great grandfather came from Lautenbach Zell to the U.S. in 1848. Could you give me any details about it? Even the ship name if it is there. Thank you. Mary Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Waechter" <sharon@farwestern.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > Amanda, > > If no one else has done it already, I can look it up tomorrow when I'm in > my office. > > Sharon > > > Sharon A Waechter, M.A./RPA > Project Director/Editor > Far Western Anthropological Research Group, Inc. > 2727 Del Rio Place - Suite A > Davis, CA 95618 > 530.756.3941 > SharonW@farwestern.com > > Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. > George Santayana > > -----Original Message----- > From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Carson > Banks > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:21 PM > To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > > Could someone - would someone who has the The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. > 2. be willing to do a look-up for me? > > Georges Hammann - emigration 1867 - with wife and child - it is suppose to > be on page 203 -- what else does it say? Names? Dates" birthplace? > > Oh thank you so so much > > Amanda > > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/17/2013 02:52:35
    1. Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.?
    2. mjwarren

    3. Thank you, Sharon. His name was Xavier Braun and was married to Magdalena Lindel. He was born 18 Apr 1813 and lived in Lautenbach Zell. He left for America in January of 1848 from I think, Le Havre. He had two children, Theophil and Mary (or Anna Marie). They left for New York but I don't know the arrival date or the ship they were on. Somehow they located in Missouri but again I don't know if they took another ship or how they got there. Any help with these "loose ends" would be great! Thank you. Mary Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Waechter" <sharon@farwestern.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > Mary Jo, > > I will need family names to look up. > > Sharon > > > > Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. > George Santayana > > > -----Original Message----- > From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mjwarren > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:52 AM > To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > > Hi, Sharon, > I am infringing on your email to Amanda and was wondering if you could > look up something for me also. My great great grandfather came from > Lautenbach Zell to the U.S. in 1848. Could you give me any details about > it? Even the ship name if it is there. Thank you. > Mary Jo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Waechter" <sharon@farwestern.com> > To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:30 AM > Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > > >> Amanda, >> >> If no one else has done it already, I can look it up tomorrow when I'm in >> my office. >> >> Sharon >> >> >> Sharon A Waechter, M.A./RPA >> Project Director/Editor >> Far Western Anthropological Research Group, Inc. >> 2727 Del Rio Place - Suite A >> Davis, CA 95618 >> 530.756.3941 >> SharonW@farwestern.com >> >> Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. >> George Santayana >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Carson >> Banks >> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:21 PM >> To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? >> >> Could someone - would someone who has the The Alsace Emigration Book. >> Vol. >> 2. be willing to do a look-up for me? >> >> Georges Hammann - emigration 1867 - with wife and child - it is suppose >> to >> be on page 203 -- what else does it say? Names? Dates" birthplace? >> >> Oh thank you so so much >> >> Amanda >> >> >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/17/2013 02:29:19
    1. Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.?
    2. Joan McCullough

    3. For Amanda, Vol 2 p80 (there is no 203 in this volume) There are three Hammann's listed. Columns are; last name, first name, birth year, birthplace, emigration, de prof (profession), source 1. Hammann, mn North, Marie, born Wickersheim; emigrated 1/1/1867 2. Hammann, w parents, Georges, birth year: 1847, born Wickersheim, emigrated: 1/1/1867 3. Hammann, ww ch, Georges, born Wickersheim, emigrated: 1/1/1867 w = wife 0f h = husband of f = father of si = sister of s = son of d = daughter of br = brother of m = mother w ch or ch or only c = with ....children example = ch 5 = with 5 children Source: 6 for these individuals 6. We sorted out the military conscription lists of the Canton Zabern (Saverne) from the years 1863 to 1868. The year of emigration is only the year when the emigrants already have left Alsace. At this time the people were already in America. It can be that they migrated as children with their parents, but most of them shortly before they were called for military to avoid the service. Wickersheim is listed in Bas Rhin. The Bas Rhin records are on-line, although I did not check for Wickershiem. No profession listed for theses three. Good luck and happy hunting joan On 1/17/2013 7:51 AM, mjwarren wrote: > Hi, Sharon, > I am infringing on your email to Amanda and was wondering if you could look > up something for me also. My great great grandfather came from Lautenbach > Zell to the U.S. in 1848. Could you give me any details about it? Even the > ship name if it is there. Thank you. > Mary Jo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Waechter" <sharon@farwestern.com> > To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:30 AM > Subject: Re: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? > > >> Amanda, >> >> If no one else has done it already, I can look it up tomorrow when I'm in >> my office. >> >> Sharon >> >> >> Sharon A Waechter, M.A./RPA >> Project Director/Editor >> Far Western Anthropological Research Group, Inc. >> 2727 Del Rio Place - Suite A >> Davis, CA 95618 >> 530.756.3941 >> SharonW@farwestern.com >> >> Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. >> George Santayana >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Carson >> Banks >> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:21 PM >> To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [A-L] A Look Up in The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. 2.? >> >> Could someone - would someone who has the The Alsace Emigration Book. Vol. >> 2. be willing to do a look-up for me? >> >> Georges Hammann - emigration 1867 - with wife and child - it is suppose to >> be on page 203 -- what else does it say? Names? Dates" birthplace? >> >> Oh thank you so so much >> >> Amanda >> >> >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

    01/17/2013 09:48:09