If you are member at ancestry.com you may find them in the "military" category at Bavaria, Germany, WWI Personnel Rosters, 1914-1918(in German) <http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1631> Gerhard Marzolph -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 3:27 PM To:alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: [A-L] Records of Alsatian Soldiers Hi All, Does anyone know where the records are for Alsatian soldiers who served in the German army between 1890 and 1914 are kept. And if there is a way to access them. Thanks. Charlie the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- E-Mail ist virenfrei. Von AVG überprüft - www.avg.de Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virendatenbank: 2641/6129 - Ausgabedatum: 24.02.2013

Hi Listers, I am seeking information about Jean Georg Kovis, estimated birth date 1767, birthplace unknown. Some years ago through a professional researcher a birth cert. for one of his children, born in 1807, was found. The child was registered in the town of Wingen; a fellow researcher found a subsequent death cert. for this child at age 18 months. The family were living at Lichthoff, George a shepherd on a share farm. The mother of the child was Marie Ann Heilig, and I believe her to be Georg's second wife as the 3 older children could not belong to her. The hired researcher could find no further trace of this couple. In the summer of 1809 they immigrated to Russia, departing from Frankfurt. It has indeed been a challenge to find information about this family. The occurance of the Kovis/Kowis/Kowitz name is rare in Alsace. One other person Anne Marie Kowis was married in 1786 to George Fritsch of Windstein according to LDS records. Considering the proximity of the towns and similarity of ages, Jean Georg and Anne Marie might be siblings. Where do I start? A Civil Registration for the marriage of Jean Georg Kowis and Ann Marie Heilig which likely took place between 1805 and 1807 could yield much valuable information but how would I access it? I've considered they might have been itinerant workers and be from the German side of the border. If there is anyone who can give me research guidance, I would be very appreciative. Regards, June McDonald Queensland, Australia

Sorry this must have been floating around in cyberspace. The below was sent on February 15. I myself wondered why it hadn't come into me. Well, anyhow Laura, others have answered your question before. Gloria On Feb 15, 2013, at 2:25 PM, gloria ishida wrote: > For my own practice I sometimes go to the record referred to by other listers. > > Enlarging plus using a magnifying glass > > munit(e) - checking dictionary but not sure of grammar I see it is from > > munir - provide > > with "de" - would be "provided with the sacrament of extreme unction". (this is the English spelling) > > Searching a few other pages for deaths, found on page 121 right side, the same word is used with extreme unction. > > Gloria > > "Genealogy. An account of one's descent from an ancestor who did not particularly care to trace his own." Ambrose Bierce

I put together your tree from the civil records of Roeschwoog and Leutenheim. You can see it here: [1]http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=heid_family&id= I26030 -Dave On 2/25/2013 3:39 PM, Tina Turner wrote: I have been trying to figure out how to get my info on other peoples computers do not know how it is done. I have been trying to find my great grandfather Jo seph Heid born November 21 1861 immigrated around 1890 to Canada do not have ot her info his wedding cert in Canada says his father was Wedalen and mother appe ars to be Eleanor do not know what village if you could help I would love any h elp I can get. Thank you. References 1. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=heid_family&id=I26030

Francois Joseph HEID was born 20 Nov 1861, in Roeschwoog, Bas-Rhin, to Vendelin HEID, 55y who was a farmer in Roeschwoog, and was born in Roeschwoog; and Madeleine JUNG, 31y. On 2/25/2013 3:39 PM, Tina Turner wrote: I have been trying to figure out how to get my info on other peoples computers do not know how it is done. I have been trying to find my great grandfather Jo seph Heid born November 21 1861 immigrated around 1890 to Canada do not have ot her info his wedding cert in Canada says his father was Wedalen and mother appe ars to be Eleanor do not know what village if you could help I would love any h elp I can get. Thank you.

I have been trying to figure out how to get my info on other peoples computers do not know how it is done. I have been trying to find my great grandfather Joseph Heid born November 21 1861 immigrated around 1890 to Canada do not have other info his wedding cert in Canada says his father was Wedalen and mother appears to be Eleanor do not know what village if you could help I would love any help I can get. Thank you.

Gloria, Every answer is much appreciated; I learn something from nearly everyone on the list. Thank you for your help! Laura On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:44 AM, gloria ishida <gfb-ishida@gol.com> wrote: > Sorry this must have been floating around in cyberspace. The below was > sent on February 15. I myself wondered why it hadn't come into me. > > Well, anyhow Laura, others have answered your question before. > > Gloria > > On Feb 15, 2013, at 2:25 PM, gloria ishida wrote: > > > For my own practice I sometimes go to the record referred to by other > listers. > > > > Enlarging plus using a magnifying glass > > > > munit(e) - checking dictionary but not sure of grammar I see it is from > > > > munir - provide > > > > with "de" - would be "provided with the sacrament of extreme unction". > (this is the English spelling) > > > > Searching a few other pages for deaths, found on page 121 right side, > the same word is used with extreme unction. > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > "Genealogy. An account of one's descent from an ancestor who did not > particularly care to trace his own." Ambrose Bierce > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Relatively speaking, Laura PS: Are we related? Find out at http://where2look4ancestors.com/

Hi Bas-Rhin listers, Regarding where one might find records PRIOR to the earliest records found for a village on the ADELOCH databases: be sure to also check the information <i> in purple circle at top of page when you access the GRAPHIC version. For Lupstein, this <i> gives: Paroisse catholique: a pour annexes Dettwiller et Wilwisheim (jusqu'en 1687). Littenheim (jusque vers 1710). Papellienmuhl, épisodiquement Ingenheim et Gottesheim. Voir également les registres du chapitre rural de Betbur (Saverne) sous Lupstein (2E 275) non numérisés. IF you access the ADAPTÉE version (list format), once you reach the Lupstein list of records, you will find the same information right before your eyes at top of page: Liste des registres disponibles pour Lupstein: Paroisse catholique : a pour annexes Dettwiller et Wilwisheim (jusqu'en 1687), Littenheim (jusque vers 1710), Papellenmuhl, épisodiquement Ingenheim et Gottesheim. Voir également les registres du chapitre rural de Betbur (Saverne) sous Lupstein (2 E 275) non numérisés. Perhaps our Haut-Rhin listers may know how to find similar information on those databases. Tracy, this may not have the years you are trying to find, but, knowing what other churches your people may have attended (for instance when the Lupstein church was pastor-less) you may find other records not found in the Lupstein books. Good hunting! Cari Thomas On 2/24/13 11:27 PM, "alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com" <alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Birth and Baptism Records Pre-1681 Lupstein

yes there is. It is "Inventory" W. David Samuelsen On 2/24/2013 10:14 AM, Etienne Herrbach wrote: > An inventory after death (there is > probably a specific term in English)

Hello Carolyn, to make a very long story short, notarial records basically contain marriage contracts, inventories after death and all kind of records, e.g. acquisition/transfer of a property, house or field renting, etc. The first two are very useful for genealogists, as they give a good idea of the goods of people. An inventory after death (there is probably a specific term in English) lists the goods of a deceased person and his/her heirs. In Alsace, notarial records are to consulted at the Archives Départementales (Strasbourg and Colmar). They are often very difficult to handle and to read (I'll send you privately the first page of such an inventory). For specific places, they have been exploited by modern genealogists into a book. The CDHF (http://www.cdhf.net ) sells several books of that kind. Best wishes, Etienne Le 24 févr. 13 à 17:31, Carolyn Beno a écrit : > Hi Etienne- > Could you elaborate on notarial records? What do they contain, > where are > they available, and how does one access them? > Thanks. > Carolyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Etienne Herrbach" <etienne.herrbach@wanadoo.fr> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:05 AM > Subject: Re: [A-L] Birth and Baptism Records Pre-1681 Lupstein > > (...) > Therefore, the parish registers will not be of great help to trace > this family back. Additionnal info could be found in notarial > records, provided they exist for Lupstein. However, they are not on > line. (...)

Ludwig, There are Griesbach in Gambsheim, Bas-Rhin. Etienne Le 22 févr. 13 à 23:33, Ludwig Feist a écrit : > Found some in herbsheim and huttenheim. > > Any other towns you may have seen the name. > > --

Tracy, Lupstein has no parish registers before 1681 (Source: J.P.Kintz, 1977, Paroisses et communes de France, Bas-Rhin) Page 40: 4 July 1694, baptism of Bernard, son of Bernard SOLLER and Angela Page 45: 44 January 1696, baptism of Antonius/Antoine, son of Bernard SOLLER and Angela Unfortunately, the mariage register, that would contain the marriage of Bernard S and Angela, is unavailable (lost?). Not even the death records of this couple can been found, since only 1684 and 1685 are available for burials (S = sépulture, in French), according to the website. Therefore, the parish registers will not be of great help to trace this family back. Additionnal info could be found in notarial records, provided they exist for Lupstein. However, they are not on line. I would advise you to contact the "Société d'Histoire et d'Archéologie de Saverne et Environs" (SHASE): http://www.shase.org/ Best wishes, Etienne Le 21 févr. 13 à 21:21, Dryden, Tracy a écrit : > Greetings, > I am looking for birth and baptism records for my Soller ancestors > in Lupstein before 1681. I have no idea if such records exist; > however, I did find this web site (http://etat-civil.bas-rhin.fr/adeloch/index.php > ). I do not know French but was able to locate Antoine Soller's > baptism record in the Lupstein volume for 1681-1731 (page 40 and > 45). It shows that his father is Bernardus or Bernardi Soller. I > would like to be able to locate additional information on this > family line. I am hoping that someone in this group will be able to > provide some additional advice. Thank you in advance for your help. > > Tracy Soller Dryden > La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA

Laura and listers, there are books giving such information, but not online as far as I know. A source is Wikipedia (http://fr.wikipedia.org). Usually the confession and name of the church(es) is mentionned for each village / town Also, the CDHF website can be useful, for villages in the Haut-Rhin Department: http://www.cdhf.net/ then type village in "Village" (above right), then click on "--> En bref... >--". The church is then usually mentionned at the top. Best wishes, Etienne Le 18 févr. 13 à 23:21, Laura Aanenson a écrit : > (...) > Where would one find the name(s) of the church(es) in a particular > town or > village? > > Regards from (BRRR) Minnesota, > > Laura

Hi Etienne- Could you elaborate on notarial records? What do they contain, where are they available, and how does one access them? Thanks. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Etienne Herrbach" <etienne.herrbach@wanadoo.fr> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] Birth and Baptism Records Pre-1681 Lupstein Tracy, Lupstein has no parish registers before 1681 (Source: J.P.Kintz, 1977, Paroisses et communes de France, Bas-Rhin) Page 40: 4 July 1694, baptism of Bernard, son of Bernard SOLLER and Angela Page 45: 44 January 1696, baptism of Antonius/Antoine, son of Bernard SOLLER and Angela Unfortunately, the mariage register, that would contain the marriage of Bernard S and Angela, is unavailable (lost?). Not even the death records of this couple can been found, since only 1684 and 1685 are available for burials (S = sépulture, in French), according to the website. Therefore, the parish registers will not be of great help to trace this family back. Additionnal info could be found in notarial records, provided they exist for Lupstein. However, they are not on line. I would advise you to contact the "Société d'Histoire et d'Archéologie de Saverne et Environs" (SHASE): http://www.shase.org/ Best wishes, Etienne Le 21 févr. 13 à 21:21, Dryden, Tracy a écrit : > Greetings, > I am looking for birth and baptism records for my Soller ancestors > in Lupstein before 1681. I have no idea if such records exist; > however, I did find this web site > (http://etat-civil.bas-rhin.fr/adeloch/index.php > ). I do not know French but was able to locate Antoine Soller's > baptism record in the Lupstein volume for 1681-1731 (page 40 and > 45). It shows that his father is Bernardus or Bernardi Soller. I > would like to be able to locate additional information on this > family line. I am hoping that someone in this group will be able to > provide some additional advice. Thank you in advance for your help. > > Tracy Soller Dryden > La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are welcome. Sharing is what we are about. Gloria On Feb 22, 2013, at 12:40 PM, <lilacarlhg@gmail.com> <lilacarlhg@gmail.com> wrote: > Gloria, > > Thank you for sharing this link! > > > Linda > now in California (was Costa Rica) > Monroe County, New York Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys > Monroe County, New York History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys >

Found some in herbsheim and huttenheim. Any other towns you may have seen the name.

I don't know about before 1681, but the records you found are baptism records for Bernadus and Antonius. My latin is a little rusty but Baptism for Bernardus appears to be 4 July 1694 and for Antonius appears to be 24 January.  You may want to check geneanet.org or do a google search with those names and dates.  Happy hunting,  Dave Fetherston ... Greetings, I am looking for birth and baptism records for my Soller ancestors in Lupstein before 1681. I have no idea if such records exist; however, I did find this web site (http://etat-civil.bas-rhin.fr/adeloch/index.php). I do not know French but was able to locate Antoine Soller's baptism record in the Lupstein volume for 1681-1731 (page 40 and 45). It shows that his father is Bernardus or Bernardi Soller. I would like to be able to locate additional information on this family line. I am hoping that someone in this group will be able to provide some additional advice. Thank you in advance for your help. Tracy Soller Dryden La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA

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Greetings, I am looking for birth and baptism records for my Soller ancestors in Lupstein before 1681. I have no idea if such records exist; however, I did find this web site (http://etat-civil.bas-rhin.fr/adeloch/index.php). I do not know French but was able to locate Antoine Soller's baptism record in the Lupstein volume for 1681-1731 (page 40 and 45). It shows that his father is Bernardus or Bernardi Soller. I would like to be able to locate additional information on this family line. I am hoping that someone in this group will be able to provide some additional advice. Thank you in advance for your help. Tracy Soller Dryden La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA