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Dear David Many thanks for your assistance. Cheers Paul J Schacht Brisbane Australia > The 1836 Strasbourg Census has no SCHACHTs. > > Paul Schacht wrote: >> Ladies and Gentlemen >> >> I am researching by family tree in Alsace-Lorraine. >> >> If anyone has access to the 1836 Census I would greatly appreciate it if >> you could look up the following names. >> >> Carl Rudolph SCHACHT (my great great grandfather) >> Emilie Juliane Magdalene SCHACHT formerly Mackens (his wife, my great >> great grandmother) >> Jean Henri SCHACHT (their first child, born about 1838) >> Carl Wilhelm SCHACHT (their second child, born about 1844) >> >> Thank you >> >> Paul J Schach> >

Thanks Ewald, I'll look it up. Gerry **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

In the 1836 Wissembourg Census, there are three Joseph LAMBERTs: Census 1836 Copyrignt 2002 C.GEYER _Personne sélectionnée :_ *LAMBERT Joseph , 4 ans, CEL* _Adresse :_ Numéro *74* Rue *Dorfgass* Commune *Durrenbach* N° Fam. NOM Prénoms S Age R Etat Profession Lien de parenté Remarque 1 LAMBERT Antoine M 44 C MAR Scieur 1 ROM Marie Anne F 30 C MAR 1 LAMBERT Catherine F 20 C CEL enfant du premier mariage 1 LAMBERT Marie Anne F 7 C CEL enfant du deuxième mariage 1 LAMBERT Joseph M 4 C CEL 1 LAMBERT Madeleine F 2 C CEL 2 STRENTZ Marie Anne F 58 C VEU 2 ROM Joseph M 25 C CEL Maçon 2 ROM Antoine M 21 C CEL Tailleur _Personne sélectionnée :_ *LAMBERT Joseph Charles , 9 ans, CEL* _Adresse :_ Numéro *9* Rue *Haute Ville* Commune *Lauterbourg* N° Fam. NOM Prénoms S Age R Etat Profession Lien de parenté Remarque 1 LAMBERT André Eugène M 39 C MAR Juge de Paix membre du Conseil Général du Département 1 MAYER Elisabeth F 30 C MAR 1 LAMBERT Joseph Charles M 9 C CEL 1 LAMBERT Eugénie F 7 C CEL 1 JOACHIM Charlotte F 62 C VEU Aïeul(e) 1 SALLIER Marie Anne F 24 C CEL Domestique Employé(e) Census 1836 Copyrignt 2002 C.GEYER _Personne sélectionnée :_ *LAMBERT Joseph , 18 ans, CEL* _Adresse :_ Numéro *198* Rue *Route de Soultz* Commune *Lembach* N° Fam. NOM Prénoms S Age R Etat Profession Lien de parenté Remarque 1 GASTEL Martin M 30 C MAR Laboureur 1 LAMBERT Anne Marie F 20 C MAR 1 GASTEL Catherine F 1 C CEL 2 ? ? F 42 C VEU Cultivatrice veuve de Charles LAMBERT 2 LAMBERT Joseph M 18 C CEL Tailleur CEL = single; VEU = widowed; C = catholic John & Sonia Kerin wrote: > Would anyone be willing to look for the Joseph F. Lambert family in > the census book? > Thank you so much. > > Sonia Kerin >

Hello Ewald, OK, I understand that Mont-Tonnerre was never part of Alsace-Lorraine, but was a part of France as a separate department. I also understand that it was only in existence between 1798 and 1814. But what I still am not clear on is where was PFORTZ during this time period of 1798-1814? The map Giliane sent the link to does not show PFORTZ and the link I included in my previous email from Wikipedia indicated that WÖRTH-am-RHEIN was in fact part of Bas-Rhin during that period. So was PFORTZ in Mont-Tonnerre or was it in Bas-Rhin between 1798-1814? It may sound like a basically unimportant issue, but my reason for trying to clarify this is so that I can once and for all explain clearly to my other family members where our STEPHANY ancestors were from. Many of them believe that it was Alsace-Lorraine. This of course is not true, but if PFORTZ was part of Bas-Rhin for that brief period of years it explains the confusion. If it was not, then I can only reason that they assumed Mont-Tonnerre was really part of Alsace-Lorraine when in fact it was not. Looking at the map I can understand why such a conclusion could have been reached. Sorry to be such a bother. I just want to make sure to get this completely correct! Thank you once again for your help and patience! Linda On 1/15/08, EWALD <ewald.klein@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Linda, > > The departement called Mont-Tonnerre was another department of France > between 1798 > and 1814 and was really never part of Alsace-Lorraine. > > Giliane is right, the territory south to the river Queich (between Queich > and Lauter) was part of Bas-Rhin between 1790 and 1815. > > According to the book " Das Reichsland Elsass-Lothringen,1901-1903 ": > > - cantons of the district Weissenburg/Wissembourg in the department > Niederrhein/Bas-Rhin 1790-1795 (following names all in German language): > Dahn, Ingweiler, Kandel, Landau, Lauterburg, Lützelstein (in district > Saarunion after 1794), Niederbronn, Sulz, Weissenburg. > > - arrondissement of Weissenburg/Wissembourg in the department > Niederrhein/Bas-Rhin after 1800: the above cantons (without the canton of > Ingweiler) AND the cantons Bergzabern, Billigheim (1800-1801), Selz (after > 1801), Wörth (after 1801) > > - in 1815, France (and the arrondissement of Wissembourg) lost the cantons > Bergzabern, Dahn, Kandel and Landau. > > Hope this helps you to clarify the situation. > > Ewald > +++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> > To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:32 AM > Subject: Re: [A-L] PFORTZ was it ever part of Bavaria or Alsace-Lorraine? > > > Hello Ewald, > > Now I am confused! > > Giliane sent me a link about Mont-Tonnerre which included a map on > Wikipedia. I could not find PFORTZ. > > On the information page for Mont-Tonnerre was a link for WÖRTH-am-RHEIN > but > no real information. I then decided to ask about Bas-Rhin and there is > this > information: > > "In the mid-1790s, following the French occupation of the entire left bank > of the Rhine, the northern boundary of the département was extended north > beyond the Lauter to the Queich river to include the areas of Annweiler am > Trifels, Landau in der Pfalz, Bad Bergzabern, and Wörth am Rhein." > > Here is the direct link to the page: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bas-Rhin > > Is this information correct? If so, it would seem then that > WÖRTH-am-RHEIN > was part of Alsace from the time of the formation of the department until > 1814. > > I tried to find a map for Bas-Rhin for this time period but was not > successful. Perhaps you know of somewhere online where there is such a > map? > > Sorry to be such a bother! > > Thank you! > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > > lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr writes: > << ....So then was Mont-Tonnerre considered to be part of Alsace & > Lorraine > during the reign of the French Empire or was it just considered to be > another department of France?>> > > Linda, > > The departement Mont-Tonnerre was another department of France between > 1798 > and1814. It was never part of Alsace-Lorraine. > > Ewald > >

Gerry, The CAOM (Centre des Archives d'Outre-Mer at Aix-en-Provence in south of France) has the cicil archives of Algeria for the period 1830 à 1962 See at : http://www.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/caom/fr/ According to this center, Robert Kuhn d. 1865 in Alger. The CAOM has his death records (2 pictures) Hope this helps Ewald ++++++++++++++++++ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gdhuhn@aol.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:35 PM Subject: [A-L] Huhn Family > Hi Ladies and Gentlemen: > > I am looking for my great grandfather Nicholas Huhn. He immigrated to > Summit > County Ohio in 1873. He was born 25 July 1848. Family tradition says > that > His mother who may have been Magdalen Huhn shipped half of her sons to > America > and half to Algeria because of the constant wars. From marriage records I > have his parents as Henry & Magdalen. I have not been able to find a town > where > he came from, nothing in Castle Garden, nothing in Naturalization records, > nothing in death records, no ship records. Brick Wall. Hoping someone > out there > can help. > Thanks > Gerry Huhn > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cecilia, According to the book '' Liste nominative des Haut-Rhinois ayant émigré en Amérique (1800-1870)": Madeleine Recroix, 21 years old in Sept. 1862, b. Pfaffans, left Pfaffans in 1862 to settle in New-York. Ewald +++++++++++++++++ ----- Original Message ----- From: "C Pingenot Forrest" <cb4rest@sbcglobal.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:06 PM Subject: [A-L] 1836 Census >I am seeking Joseph Franklin Pingenot who was born about 1828 possibly near > Belfort. He married Madeleine Recroix in 1844. I will appreciate any > help > if the census included children. > > Cecilia Pingenot Forrest > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Linda, The departement called Mont-Tonnerre was another department of France between 1798 and 1814 and was really never part of Alsace-Lorraine. Giliane is right, the territory south to the river Queich (between Queich and Lauter) was part of Bas-Rhin between 1790 and 1815. According to the book " Das Reichsland Elsass-Lothringen,1901-1903 ": - cantons of the district Weissenburg/Wissembourg in the department Niederrhein/Bas-Rhin 1790-1795 (following names all in German language): Dahn, Ingweiler, Kandel, Landau, Lauterburg, Lützelstein (in district Saarunion after 1794), Niederbronn, Sulz, Weissenburg. - arrondissement of Weissenburg/Wissembourg in the department Niederrhein/Bas-Rhin after 1800: the above cantons (without the canton of Ingweiler) AND the cantons Bergzabern, Billigheim (1800-1801), Selz (after 1801), Wörth (after 1801) - in 1815, France (and the arrondissement of Wissembourg) lost the cantons Bergzabern, Dahn, Kandel and Landau. Hope this helps you to clarify the situation. Ewald +++++++++++++++++++++++ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:32 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] PFORTZ was it ever part of Bavaria or Alsace-Lorraine? Hello Ewald, Now I am confused! Giliane sent me a link about Mont-Tonnerre which included a map on Wikipedia. I could not find PFORTZ. On the information page for Mont-Tonnerre was a link for WÖRTH-am-RHEIN but no real information. I then decided to ask about Bas-Rhin and there is this information: "In the mid-1790s, following the French occupation of the entire left bank of the Rhine, the northern boundary of the département was extended north beyond the Lauter to the Queich river to include the areas of Annweiler am Trifels, Landau in der Pfalz, Bad Bergzabern, and Wörth am Rhein." Here is the direct link to the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bas-Rhin Is this information correct? If so, it would seem then that WÖRTH-am-RHEIN was part of Alsace from the time of the formation of the department until 1814. I tried to find a map for Bas-Rhin for this time period but was not successful. Perhaps you know of somewhere online where there is such a map? Sorry to be such a bother! Thank you! Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: EWALD To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: 14 January, 2008 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] PFORTZ was it ever part of Bavaria or Alsace-Lorraine? lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr writes: << ....So then was Mont-Tonnerre considered to be part of Alsace & Lorraine during the reign of the French Empire or was it just considered to be another department of France?>> Linda, The departement Mont-Tonnerre was another department of France between 1798 and1814. It was never part of Alsace-Lorraine. Ewald --

Would anyone be willing to look for the Joseph F. Lambert family in the census book? Thank you so much. Sonia Kerin

Ewald, C'est fantastique. J'ignorais que certains de ces actes etaient accessibles par internet! (It is fantastic. I didn't know that some of these records were now accessible via the web! Thanks!! - Giliane -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of EWALD Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 6:30 PM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] Huhn Family Gerry, The CAOM (Centre des Archives d'Outre-Mer at Aix-en-Provence in south of France) has the cicil archives of Algeria for the period 1830 à 1962 See at : http://www.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/caom/fr/ According to this center, Robert Kuhn d. 1865 in Alger. The CAOM has his death records (2 pictures) Hope this helps Ewald ++++++++++++++++++ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gdhuhn@aol.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:35 PM Subject: [A-L] Huhn Family > Hi Ladies and Gentlemen: > > I am looking for my great grandfather Nicholas Huhn. He immigrated to > Summit > County Ohio in 1873. He was born 25 July 1848. Family tradition says > that > His mother who may have been Magdalen Huhn shipped half of her sons to > America > and half to Algeria because of the constant wars. From marriage records I > have his parents as Henry & Magdalen. I have not been able to find a town > where > he came from, nothing in Castle Garden, nothing in Naturalization records, > nothing in death records, no ship records. Brick Wall. Hoping someone > out there > can help. > Thanks > Gerry Huhn > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 1/14/2008 5:39 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 1/14/2008 5:39 PM

Bonjour Ewald, When time allows, could you please look in Liste nominative des Haut- Rhinois ayant émigré en Amérique (1800-1870) to see if there is a Francis J. BUSCH, born 10 Feb 1821, reportedly in Alsace? I believe he arrived in the U.S. on 1 Aug 1851. He was in the U.S. for certain by April 1853 when he was married in Lowell, MA. Thank you, Richard A. Morrison

I am researching on behalf of wife Edna Kollen born in New Caledonia. Her forebears appear to have lived in Alsace-Lorraine. The information we have(mostly unsubstantiated) is as follows" Great,Great,Great,Great Grandfather: Francois Kollen, Wife: Elisbeth Schlemer. Great,Great,Great Grandfather:Jean Kollen, Wife:Marie Claire Philippe. Great, Great Grandfather:Jean Kollen born 1846, Wife:Maria Claude born 1851. They have appeared to have opted to remain French and appear to have moved to BEAUVAIS (60)on 27 May 1872. Great, Great Grandfather: Léon Hubert Michel Kollen born Beauvais France 19 August 1879. He migrated to New Caledonia when he was 30 years old. He married twice. His first wife was Marthe Justine Michael Villaz and she had 7 children with him. Marcel Kollen born 14 September 1912 was her first born child in New Caledonia and was my wife's father. Marcel was killed in World war 2 in North Africa fighting Rommel at Bir Hakeim 1 June 1942. We understand that my wife's Great,Great Grandfather Jean Kollen born 1846 lived and may have been born in THOINVILLE(German:DIEDENHOVEN). We have a letter written in French which appears to be an extract from the official town records of the birth of Léon Hubert Michel KOLLEN from BEAUVAIS, FRANCE mentioning his father's name being JEAN 33 years old. However we have never been able to make the connection from BEAUVAIS to THIONVILLE of Jean KOLLEN born 1846 as shown on the birth details. We have Jean's birthdate of 1846 and his father's name JEAN KOLLEN and his grandfather FRANCOIS KOLLEN but no dates of birth of the last two. Could the 1836 census give us the proof of this connection? JOS de Zwart (AUSTRALIA)

I am working with a French speaking genealogist to locate marriage and death records. We've gone beyond my basic French, and I need someone to translate what I want to say to French and, depending on the topic, possibly his French back to English. Can anyone recommend a good translator? I would be willing to pay a reasonable cost. I am thinking of maybe a few paragraphs every few days for a week or two. Thanks for your help, Michelle

I could find no matching ANDRES in the 1836 Wissembourg Census. Jim Andrews wrote: > Joseph Andres born abt 1806 married Marie Anne Schmitt born abt 1811. Their children were born in > St. Louis d Arzviller near Sarrebourg. Any listing from 1836 Census would be greatly appreciated. Joseph was a carpenter. His children were Elisabeth, Marie Anne, Joseph, Antoine, Nicolas, Louis and Helene. Thank you for your consideration. > > Regards, > > J Andres Andrews >

EWALD, does that book by any chance show George and Marie Eve Mosser from Schirrhein, Alsace France in 1846? thank you in advance. Melody-Seattle ----- Original Message ----- From: EWALD<mailto:ewald.klein@gmail.com> To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com<mailto:alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] 1836 Census Cecilia, According to the book '' Liste nominative des Haut-Rhinois ayant émigré en Amérique (1800-1870)": Madeleine Recroix, 21 years old in Sept. 1862, b. Pfaffans, left Pfaffans in 1862 to settle in New-York. Ewald +++++++++++++++++ ----- Original Message ----- From: "C Pingenot Forrest" <cb4rest@sbcglobal.net<mailto:cb4rest@sbcglobal.net>> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com<mailto:alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:06 PM Subject: [A-L] 1836 Census >I am seeking Joseph Franklin Pingenot who was born about 1828 possibly near > Belfort. He married Madeleine Recroix in 1844. I will appreciate any > help > if the census included children. > > Cecilia Pingenot Forrest > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joseph Andres born abt 1806 married Marie Anne Schmitt born abt 1811. Their children were born in St. Louis d Arzviller near Sarrebourg. Any listing from 1836 Census would be greatly appreciated. Joseph was a carpenter. His children were Elisabeth, Marie Anne, Joseph, Antoine, Nicolas, Louis and Helene. Thank you for your consideration. Regards, J Andres Andrews

Hello Ewald, Are there books like this one for years after 1870? Thank you, Janice >>>>>According to the book '' Liste nominative des Haut-Rhinois ayant émigré en Amérique (1800-1870)":<<<<<<

Marge: Étienne is definitely masculine. Translation into American is Stephen. For girls/women, Étiennette is virtually no longer in use Jean-Edmond -----Message d'origine----- De : alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de CPMCOACH@aol.com Envoyé : lundi 14 janvier 2008 21:58 À : alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Objet : Re: [A-L] Americanisms for Etienne and Ewald I am getting hungry for some bread, but I have a question about the original question. I am embarrassed to ask this , but what is the Americanization for Etienne? Is is feminine or Masculine? My Gr Gr Grandfather, Antoine Biegenwald may have had a sibling by that name. Thanks Marge **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte.