Dear Bonnie, Have you researched Palatinate genealogical resources? I am in no way any type of scholar nor knowledgeable with the Palatinate nor the region of Bavaria, however when I first read of the surnames you have listed, the names struck me as being from Ostfrielsland. In very general terms, Ostfriesland is in the North and Northwestern part of what is now Germany, along the Nord Sea; also going inward along the Ems River, et al . You can easily look this up on the Internet at Wikipedia or GenWiki. Other resources for such early immigrant ships to the colonial states and their passenger information have been: The German Society of Pennsylvania (organized since since 1764 in Philadelphia) http://www.germansociety.org/ Other possible resources are: The Pennsylvania German Society http://www.pgs.org/ -and- Palatines to America - German Genealogy Society Researching German-Speaking Ancestors http://www.palam.org/ As for another A-L Mail List letter I replied to, I also offer up these further links for research: ALSACE and LORRAINE - Other Resources (see bottom of the web page) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm GedBas: Die genealogische Datenbasis Enter Surname in the Nachname field http://gedbas.genealogy.net/ GeoGen Surname mapping for Germany and Austria http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen/en/Default.aspx Les Nomes de Famille http://www.geopatronyme.com/index.htmx GeneaNet http://www.geneanet.org/?lang=en RootsWeb's WorldConnect http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi Family History Library Catalog (for books and microfilm re. your ancestral surname) Choose "Surname Search" http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp Best of luck! Kathleen --- Bonnie Vollink <gibbon@netins.net> wrote: > I am searching for DANIEL CHRISMAN/CHRISTMAN/CHRISTMANN/CRISMAN. > I need Daniel's parents and siblings names and where he came from. He was > born about 1705 in Germany. Family history say he came from Bavaria. He > arrived on the Alexander and Ann Sept. 5, 1730 at Philadelphia. He arrived > with 130 Palatinates. > > Also, is anyone out there looking for passengers that arrived in > > Philadelphia on the "Alexander and Ann" Sept. 5, 1730. He arrived with > > the Palatinates. Family history says he is from Bavaria. I am unable to > > locate where he came from and the names of his parents and siblings. > > I am thinking that if someone else is searching passengers from that ship > > that maybe they know where their ancestors lived in Germany. > > Thank you advance. Bonnie Chrisman Vollink ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Hi Jana, In order to find out whether your family lore is true that this family came from either Alsace or Lorraine, you'll have to begin by researching U.S. documents. Have you checked all of the usual U.S. church documents? Were they Roman Catholic, Protestant or Jewish? Which local parish did they attend? If that church or synagogue no longer exists, where were the records transferred to in the U.S. locality where your ancestral family settled? Have you checked their local newspaper obituaries of the time and their death certificates for place names? Many times a U.S. regional area had a German-language newspaper and far greater information about the person was provided in those papers than was reported in the English-speaking newspapers in the 19th and early 20th Centuries. These papers were distributed even to the smallest towns out into the farmlands of the Midwestern U.S. and other regions, as an example. A Reference Librarian from the Public Library System or your particular State Archives should be able to tell you if those newspapers existed and if they are available on microfilm. Have you checked for their Declaration of Intent and U.S. citizenship papers from the town clerk's office or Court House where they settled? Some of these records have very little-to-none information or some records have provided much information. 1. Beginning Alsace or Lorraine research ~ Look at the bottom of the web page URL for further assistance. ALSACE and LORRAINE - Other Resources http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm 2. GeoName searching ~ GeoGen: Surname mapping for Germany and Austria http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen/en/Default.aspx and/or Les Nomes de Famille http://www.geopatronyme.com/index.htmx 3. Making Connections with other researchers ~ GedBas: Die genealogische Datenbasis Enter Surname (or partial spelling) in the Nachname field http://gedbas.genealogy.net/ and/or GeneaNet http://www.geneanet.org/?lang=en and/or RootsWeb's WorldConnect http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi 4. Books and microfilms about the surname Freudenburg ~ Family History Library Catalog Choose "Surname Search" http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp Best of luck in your endeavors! Kathleen ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Jana Vaughan <jvaughan1962@yahoo.com> wrote: > Im trying to find Freudenberg's from germany. I have Joseph my gg grandfather either born in > Prussia or Hanover. b:1835 d:1909 He came to the US in 1849. His father Peter came with him. > I have found the Passenger list where they came from Antwerp into New Orleans. Peter b:1797 > d:after the 1850 census. I have had no luck finding anything in Germany about them. > One of my family members here in the US said they had always heard that they had came over from > Alsace-Lorraine.... > Thanks > Jana ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Hi Jana, In order to find out whether your family lore is true that this family came from either Alsace or Lorraine, you'll have to begin by researching U.S. documents. Have you checked all of the usual U.S. church documents? Were they Roman Catholic, Protestant or Jewish? Which local parish did they attend? If that church or synagogue no longer exists, where were the records transferred to in the U.S. locality where your ancestral family settled? Have you checked their local newspaper obituaries of the time and their death certificates for place names? Many times a U.S. regional area had a German-language newspaper and far greater information about the person was provided in those papers than was reported in the English-speaking newspapers in the 19th and early 20th Centuries. These papers were distributed even to the smallest towns out into the farmlands of the Midwestern U.S. and other regions, as an example. A Reference Librarian from the Public Library System or your particular State Archives should be able to tell you if those newspapers existed and if they are available on microfilm. Have you checked for their Declaration of Intent and U.S. citizenship papers from the town clerk's office or Court House where they settled? Some of these records have very little-to-none information or some records have provided much information. 1. Beginning Alsace or Lorraine research ~ Look at the bottom of the web page URL for further assistance. ALSACE and LORRAINE - Other Resources http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm 2. GeoName searching ~ GeoGen: Surname mapping for Germany and Austria http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen/en/Default.aspx and/or Les Nomes de Famille http://www.geopatronyme.com/index.htmx 3. Making Connections with other researchers ~ GedBas: Die genealogische Datenbasis Enter Surname (or partial spelling) in the Nachname field http://gedbas.genealogy.net/ and/or GeneaNet http://www.geneanet.org/?lang=en and/or RootsWeb's WorldConnect http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi 4. Books and microfilms about the surname Freudenburg ~ Family History Library Catalog Choose "Surname Search" http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp Best of luck in your endeavors! Kathleen ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Jana Vaughan <jvaughan1962@yahoo.com> wrote: > Im trying to find Freudenberg's from germany. I have Joseph my gg grandfather either born in > Prussia or Hanover. b:1835 d:1909 He came to the US in 1849. His father Peter came with him. > I have found the Passenger list where they came from Antwerp into New Orleans. Peter b:1797 > d:after the 1850 census. I have had no luck finding anything in Germany about them. > One of my family members here in the US said they had always heard that they had came over from > Alsace-Lorraine.... > Thanks > Jana ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Hello Carl, There are two towns Gehweiler in Saarland (Germany): one is part of Namborn and the other is part of Wadern. There are also two towns in Alsace-Lorraine: Mulhausen in department Bas-Rhin (northern part of Alsace) and Mühlhausen/Mulhouse in Haut-Rhin (southern part of Alsace). To find records reflecting a migration from Gehweiler (Germany) to Muhlhouse between 1853 and 1858, it is necessary to search the entire book... Ewald ----- Original Message ----- From: <Chn0205@aol.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] 1836 census---HAUCK > Ewald--- are there any records available that would reflect migration > between Gehweiler, Germany and Muhlhausen for the period 1853 to 1858. > > Thank you Carl > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Ray, Sorry, no FRANKHAUSER or similar name in the book '' Liste nominative des Haut-Rhinois ayant émigré en Amérique (1800-1870) '' Ewald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Boniker" <IRAY@msn.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] (A-L) 1836 Census > Hello Ewald, > > I wondered if you could check your emigration book for the name > FRANKHAUSER - especially Jacob or Joseph in the mid 1800's. > > Thanks so much, > > Ray > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Georges HAUCK, 26 y in Sept 1845, b. in CerCay (Haut-Rhin), left Cernay in 1845 for New York source : book '' Liste nominative des Haut-Rhinois ayant émigré en Amérique (1800-1870) '' Ewald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Francis" <dave.francis@sbcglobal.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] 1836 census---HAUCK There are 79 HAUCKs in the 1836 Wissembourg Census. They are in the following towns: Birlenbach, Cleebourg, Hoffen, Hunspach, Oberhoffen-lès-Wissembourg, Oberseebach, Reimerswiller, Soultz-sous-Forêts, Steinseltz, Weiler, and Wissembourg. Viki368954@aol.com wrote: > Are there any HAUCKs on this census? Vicki > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Barbara, Sorry, no EIDEL and no FENNINGER or similar names are listed (no emigrants from Northern part of Alsace). source : book '' Liste nominative des Haut-Rhinois ayant émigré en Amérique (1800-1870) '' Ewald ----- Original Message ----- From: "BARBARA EIDEL" <ebarbarajo@verizon.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:57 AM Subject: [A-L] 1836 Census Eidel Familyin Wissembourg > Ewald, > Would you mind checking to see if there are any Eidel's or Fenninger's > listed in the census? They lived in Wissembourg (Eidel) and Weiller > (Fenninger) > Thank you so much! > Barbara Eidel > > > Names that I am particulary interested in: > > Adam Eidel and Catherine Bey > > Norbert Fenninger and Dorothee Wachtel > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Emily, Sorry, no RUHNKE or similar name listed in the book '' Liste nominative des Haut-Rhinois ayant émigré en Amérique (1800-1870) '' Regards from Alsace Ewald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emily Russell" <erussell20@sbcglobal.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: [A-L] (A-L) 1836 Census > Ewald > > Could you please check to see if there are any Ruhnke names in Sentheim > area. I know that is an uncommon name to A-L area but my ancestors came > from Sentheim. > > Emily > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Larry, Sorry, no FILLHARD/ FILLHART / FILLHARDT in book '' Liste nominative des Haut-Rhinois ayant émigré en Amérique (1800-1870) '' concerning ONLY emigrants who left Haut-Rhin, the southern part of Alsace Ewald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry L. Fillhard" <fillhard@sbcglobal.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:55 AM Subject: [A-L] 1836 Census > > > Hello Ewald, > > Are there any listings for the FILLHARD in the census for Wintzenbach? > > THX > Larry > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Randy, Etienne ECKERT 44 y. in Aug 1862, b. Mollau, left Mitzach for Montevideo with his wife Marie-Louise HANS 43 y Damien ECKERT 31 y in Jan 1866, b. in Petit-Landau, left Mulhouse in 1866 for New York, with his wife Barbe Rosine CONRAD 20 y and his daughter 1 y Guillaume ECKART 34 y in Jun 1849, b. in Mulhouse, left Colmar in 1849 for New York, with his son Philippe Frédéric ECKART 51 y in Sept 1854, b. in Petit-Landau, left Petit-Landau in 1854 to Tuspan (Mexique) with his wife and 5 children Charles DISSER, 29 y in 1848, left Altkirch in 1848 for New York Antoine DISSER, 25 y in Jan 1854, b. in Altkirch, left Altkirch for New York in 1854, with his brother Madeleine DISSER, widow BIHR, 68 y in Apr 1851, b. in Altkirch, left Altkirch for Conochon in 1851 source: book '' Liste nominative des Haut-Rhinois ayant émigré en Amérique (1800-1870) '' Ewald +++++++++++++++++++ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall McDaniel" <spacegeezer@msn.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] 1836 Census > Hello Ewald, > > Do you find any listings for the Eckart/Eckert or Disser families? In > particular my great great grandfather, Joseph John Eckart/Eckert (born in > 1823) and my great great grandmother, Veronica Disser (born in 1834). I > believe that Joseph's parents were Joseph Eckert and Margaret > Hausner/Hausser, and Veronica's parents were Jean George Disser and > Balbina Meyer. Thanks much for your help!! > > Best regards, > > Randy McDaniel > Webster, Texas, USA > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Richard, Here are the two BOESCH's: Auguste BOESCH, baker, 39 years old in Nov 1852, b. in Soultzmatt, left Soultzmatt in 1852 for New Orleans Edouard BOESCH, dyer, 37 years old in July 1853, b. in Soultz, left Soultz-Haut Rhin in 1853 for New York source: book '' Liste nominative des Haut-Rhinois ayant émigré en Amérique (1800-1870) '' Ewald ++++++++++++++++ ----- Original Message ----- From: "RAM" <mcadict@comcast.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] Ewald & Liste avant emigre en Amerique Ewald, These do not seem to be my BUSCH's. Could you tell me about the BOESCH's you found? Do you know off hand if Mulhouse was covered in the Census of 1836? Thank you for your time. Richard On Jan 16, 2008, at 6:03 PM, EWALD wrote: > Richard, > > Here is what I have found: > - Marie BUSCH (maiden name TRITTHART), b. 17 Feb 1826 in Mulhouse, > widow of > Valentin BUSCH, left Mulhouse in 1893, to join family members in > Rockwil > - Catherine BUSCH, 28 years old in Feb. 1857 (sister-in-law of Joseph > BLANCK) , left Mulhouse in1857 with her dautghter Justine (3 years > old) and > with Joseph Blanck, to settle in New-Orleans > - two BOESCHs are listed > > Ewald > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RAM" <mcadict@comcast.net> > To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:22 AM > Subject: [A-L] Ewald & Liste avant emigre en Amerique > > > > Bonjour Ewald, > > When time allows, could you please look in Liste nominative des Haut- > Rhinois ayant émigré en Amérique (1800-1870) to see if > > there is a Francis J. BUSCH, born 10 Feb 1821, reportedly in Alsace? > > I believe he arrived in the U.S. on 1 Aug 1851. He was in the U.S. > for certain by April 1853 when he was married in Lowell, MA. > > > Thank you, > > Richard A. Morrison > --
Hello Larry, I have some Fillardt in my sources in Duntzeheim. It used to be spelled Fullhard or Fullhart. Contact me if you wish. Réjane. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry L. Fillhard" <fillhard@sbcglobal.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:55 AM Subject: [A-L] 1836 Census > > > Hello Ewald, > > Are there any listings for the FILLHARD in the census for Wintzenbach? > > THX > Larry > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
> List members, I am new on this list. I am searching for DANIEL CHRISMAN/CHRISTMAN/CHRISTMANN/CRISMAN. I need Daniel's parents and siblings names and where he came from. He was born about 1705 in Germany. Family history say he came from Bavaria. He arrived on the Alexander and Ann Sept. 5, 1730 at Philadelphia. He arrived with 130 Palatinates. > Also, is anyone out there looking for passengers that arrived in > Philadelphia on the "Alexander and Ann" Sept. 5, 1730. He arrived with > the Palatinates. Family history says he is from Bavaria. I am unable to > locate where he came from and the names of his parents and siblings. > I am thinking that if someone else is searching passengers from that ship > that maybe they know where their ancestors lived in Germany. > Thank you advance. Bonnie Chrisman Vollink > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Could you please check for HALTER or ECK? Francine Conn Halter **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
Thank You Ewald You do a great service I will to be more specific tomorrow Thanks again Carl **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
Thank you, Ewald On Jan 17, 2008, at 4:05 PM, EWALD wrote: > Richard, > > Here are the two BOESCH's: > > Auguste BOESCH, baker, 39 years old in Nov 1852, b. in Soultzmatt, > left > Soultzmatt in 1852 for New Orleans > > Edouard BOESCH, dyer, 37 years old in July 1853, b. in Soultz, left > Soultz-Haut Rhin in 1853 for New York > > source: book '' Liste nominative des Haut-Rhinois ayant émigré en > Amérique > (1800-1870) '' > > Ewald > ++++++++++++++++ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RAM" <mcadict@comcast.net> > To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:02 AM > Subject: Re: [A-L] Ewald & Liste avant emigre en Amerique > > > Ewald, > > These do not seem to be my BUSCH's. > > Could you tell me about the BOESCH's you found? > > Do you know off hand if Mulhouse was covered in the Census of 1836? > > Thank you for your time. > > Richard > > On Jan 16, 2008, at 6:03 PM, EWALD wrote: > >> Richard, >> >> Here is what I have found: >> - Marie BUSCH (maiden name TRITTHART), b. 17 Feb 1826 in Mulhouse, >> widow of >> Valentin BUSCH, left Mulhouse in 1893, to join family members in >> Rockwil >> - Catherine BUSCH, 28 years old in Feb. 1857 (sister-in-law of Joseph >> BLANCK) , left Mulhouse in1857 with her dautghter Justine (3 years >> old) and >> with Joseph Blanck, to settle in New-Orleans >> - two BOESCHs are listed >> >> Ewald >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "RAM" <mcadict@comcast.net> >> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:22 AM >> Subject: [A-L] Ewald & Liste avant emigre en Amerique >> >> >> >> Bonjour Ewald, >> >> When time allows, could you please look in Liste nominative des Haut- >> Rhinois ayant émigré en Amérique (1800-1870) to see if >> >> there is a Francis J. BUSCH, born 10 Feb 1821, reportedly in Alsace? >> >> I believe he arrived in the U.S. on 1 Aug 1851. He was in the U.S. >> for certain by April 1853 when he was married in Lowell, MA. >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Richard A. Morrison >> -- > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE- > LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Ewald--- are there any records available that would reflect migration between Gehweiler, Germany and Muhlhausen for the period 1853 to 1858. Thank you Carl **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
Hi all, Im trying to find Freudenberg's from germany. I have Joseph my gg grandfather either born in Prussia or Hanover. b:1835 d:1909 He came to the US in 1849. His father Peter came with him. I have found the Passenger list where they came from Antwerp into New Orleans. Peter b:1797 d:after the 1850 census. I have had no luck finding anything in Germany about them. One of my family members here in the US said they had always heard that they had came over from Alsace-Lorraine. IF anyone could help I would appreciate it. Thanks Jana ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Hello Ewald, I wondered if you could check your emigration book for the name FRANKHAUSER - especially Jacob or Joseph in the mid 1800's. Thanks so much, Ray
Sorry Barbara but I could not locate any additional families other than those I sent to you. Charlie