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Hello Listers! Yesterday, someone told me that there is a microfilm reader at the SLC library that allows you to copy the image onto a flash drive. Does anyone know how this works? How clear is the image? I'm thinking that this alone may be worth a trip to Salt Lake City! Thanks! Barb Eidel Apple Valley, CA
Carrie, I don't like using my digital SLR Nikon but find that my Vivitar small digital camera has given me very good results. I've photographed thousands of microfilm documents and a number of complete rolls and have been doing that for a few years. Definitely use a tripod but if you have a steady hand and only wish to take several pics they should be OK but take several of each. Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carrie Herfindahl" <carrie@reuben.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Microfilm copies or photographs > Barbara and listers > > I have had a lot of success photographing the images using my digital > camera. I am actually in the process of photographing 2 entire rolls > of microfilm - I am hoping to put them up on the web someday - and > they are much easier to read than the printed copies. I too was > excited to find the birth record for my great great grandfather in > Hoh Frankenheim - and to find out that he was one of triplets! > > I must add a disclaimer here though. I am a photographer by trade > and have a very nice SLR digital camera and I used a tripod. But I > do know that others have tried this and gotten good results with a > consumer digital camera - but a tripod makes the difference I think... > > Carrie > River Falls, WI > > > On Feb 16, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Barbara Eidel wrote: > >> Hello, >> I have had my first experience using microfilm! My excitement at >> finding >> the marriage record of my great great grandparents in Wissembourg is >> indescribable (although written in French and I can't read it!). >> However, I >> printed a copy, and the quality is really dark and bad. Is there a >> trick to >> getting clearer copies? Is it possible to photograph the image >> somehow? I >> ran the copy through my scanner and it is a bit better, but still >> pretty >> bad. >> >> I am an amateur, and am sure that some of you have some great >> experience and >> advice that you may be able to share. >> Thank you! >> Barbara Eidel >> > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
some machines have a setting that you can lighten the copies to make them clearer. Check it out. Nancy ------- I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. --Daniel Boone On Feb 16, 2008, at 7:57 PM, Barbara Eidel wrote: > Hello, > I have had my first experience using microfilm! My excitement at > finding > the marriage record of my great great grandparents in Wissembourg is > indescribable (although written in French and I can't read it!). > However, I > printed a copy, and the quality is really dark and bad. Is there a > trick to > getting clearer copies? Is it possible to photograph the image > somehow? I > ran the copy through my scanner and it is a bit better, but still > pretty > bad. > > I am an amateur, and am sure that some of you have some great > experience and > advice that you may be able to share. > Thank you! > Barbara Eidel > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE- > LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I use a clear plastic yellow envelope folder I got at Office Max. Just cut it up to one page size. ' ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Eidel" <ebarbarajo@verizon.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Microfilm copies or photographs > > Thank you so much! I will try it right away! Now to find the yellow > cellophane! >> >> Do you put the cellophane under the glass before >> you print? >> >> >> >> Yes,that is it...before you print it . >> >> >> >> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. >> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ >> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
In a message dated 2/16/2008 8:24:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ebarbarajo@verizon.net writes: Do you put the cellophane under the glass before you print? Yes,that is it...before you print it . **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
Celephone ? clear see through ,the onces you use on Easter or Holidays to wrap gifts for the baskects ect.. the yellow color is the best,he said. **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
In a message dated 2/16/2008 7:58:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ebarbarajo@verizon.net writes: bad. Is there a trick to getting clearer copies? Is it possible to photograph the image somehow? I ran the copy through my scanner and it is a bit better, but still pretty bad. I have been told at the Momon Center to take a yellow Easter wrapping paper something similar like it and it will give it a better outcome. Good Luck,Doris. **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
Barbara and listers I have had a lot of success photographing the images using my digital camera. I am actually in the process of photographing 2 entire rolls of microfilm - I am hoping to put them up on the web someday - and they are much easier to read than the printed copies. I too was excited to find the birth record for my great great grandfather in Hoh Frankenheim - and to find out that he was one of triplets! I must add a disclaimer here though. I am a photographer by trade and have a very nice SLR digital camera and I used a tripod. But I do know that others have tried this and gotten good results with a consumer digital camera - but a tripod makes the difference I think... Carrie River Falls, WI On Feb 16, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Barbara Eidel wrote: > Hello, > I have had my first experience using microfilm! My excitement at > finding > the marriage record of my great great grandparents in Wissembourg is > indescribable (although written in French and I can't read it!). > However, I > printed a copy, and the quality is really dark and bad. Is there a > trick to > getting clearer copies? Is it possible to photograph the image > somehow? I > ran the copy through my scanner and it is a bit better, but still > pretty > bad. > > I am an amateur, and am sure that some of you have some great > experience and > advice that you may be able to share. > Thank you! > Barbara Eidel >
Thank you so much! I will try it right away! Now to find the yellow cellophane! > > Do you put the cellophane under the glass before > you print? > > > > Yes,that is it...before you print it . > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
That sounds interesting. Do you put the cellophane under the glass before you print? ----- Original Message ----- From: <Adodge74@aol.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Microfilm copies or photographs > > Celephone ? clear see through ,the onces you use on Easter or Holidays to > wrap gifts for the baskects ect.. > the yellow color is the best,he said. > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I'm not sure what you mean . What do you do with the yellow paper? > I have been told at the Momon Center to take a yellow Easter wrapping > paper > something similar like it and it will give it a better outcome. Good > Luck,Doris. > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello, I have had my first experience using microfilm! My excitement at finding the marriage record of my great great grandparents in Wissembourg is indescribable (although written in French and I can't read it!). However, I printed a copy, and the quality is really dark and bad. Is there a trick to getting clearer copies? Is it possible to photograph the image somehow? I ran the copy through my scanner and it is a bit better, but still pretty bad. I am an amateur, and am sure that some of you have some great experience and advice that you may be able to share. Thank you! Barbara Eidel
Hello Miriam: My ancestor Elizabeth Frey was born about early December 1806 if the tombstone information and death record is accurate. They say that she died August 20, 1882, age 75 years 8 months. She married Lorenz Hoffman(n) about 1828 (place unknown)and her first child, Magdalena, (my great-grandmother)was born in 1830 in Nothweiler, Pfalz and christened in nearby Rumbach. Three more children were born there and a fifth just before or on the ocean trip over here in 1845/1846. They finally settled in Ontario, Canada. Supposedly, as I have not seen the books themselves, Dennis Kastens, in his listings of various families in Nothweiler and Rumbach, says that Elizabeth Frey Hoffman was born in/near Wingen, Alsace. Her death record and various census records do indicate that she was born in France. >From maps I've checked of the area, Wingen is only about 5 miles or so south of Nothweiler which is fairly close to the current border, so that does seem a good possibility. There is also a chance that she had a brother Jacob Frey/Fry born c1798 who had emigrated here earlier in the 1830s but I have not been able to confirm that relationship. So far I have not had any luck in locating Elizabeth's parents or siblings so if in your Frey research you chance upon these names I'd be so grateful if you would let me know. Thanks for any help or hints of where to search you might be able to provide. Sandra --- Miriam CW Hall-Hansen <mchall@xmission.com> wrote: > Sandra- I have many of the Frey families in Wingen > in my family lines- they > go back to Switzerland. Contact me on line - > Miriam Hall-Hansen > > > Miriam CW Hall-Hansen > mchall@xmission.com > "The point is that they lived"... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra Tennant" <st9987ca@yahoo.ca> > To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: [A-L] Les Militaires de 1792 - 1815 - > Look-ups > > > > Hi Charlie: > > I'm trying to find the parents of my ancestor > > Elizabeth FREI/FREY, born c1806, supposedly of > Wingen, > > Alsace. Would there be any men with this name > > mentioned in the above book? > > Thanks for checking. > > Sandra Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com
As usual, the folks on this list are exceptional. This has got to be close to the best list going. We, and the fellow in England really appreciate all your help. I expect, because it's the weekend, we will have to wait till next week to complete the plans, but I have a feeling that by Tuesday at the latest, a plan to send his parents to Wintzenbach will be cast in Concrete. Thanks again everybody. Gene
Gene, I have forgotten to give you the website where I found the info. It is the same given by Charlie: http://www.mothern-tourisme.fr/resources/Pays+de+Seltz.pdf You can see the 8 graves on pages 20 and 21, with the title "Tombes de guerre du Commonwealth". The flight Sergeant Frank David T. PHILLIPS (35 Squadron, Royal Air Force) is buried in grave 2 (churchyard of Wintzenbach) Source: http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Carmarthenshire/Laugharne.html Ewald
Hi Gene, The Lancaster crashed to the north-west of Wintzenbach, killing the entire crew. The eight men are buried in the Protestant cemetery near the "mairie" (town hall/Mayor's office) of Wintzenbach. The Lancaster III Serial ND 755 Code TL-J, took off from its base in Graveley, England on 19 October 1944 at 17h56. Its scouting mission was to mark out with beacons that evening's target, Stuttgart. Its crew consisted of eight men. Between 21h and 22h it was intercepted by a German night fighter plane. This encounter was fatal for the English bomber which jettisoned its cargo of bombs before he crashed. No doubt, your fellow will find English speaking people in Wintzenbach. I would recommend him to contact the city hall at mairie.wintzenbach@wanadoo.fr . They will receive him and organize his visit, in memory of the aviators buried there. I had not the possibility today to go in touch with the city hall, because the opening hours are limited. Regards from Alsace Ewald ++++++++++++++++++ > Charlie: (Or anyone else who might have a suggestion) > > A fellow in England I am in contact with has asked me about English > speaking people in Wintzenbach. His father and mother are planning on > visiting Wintzenbach in a month to see if they can find the grave of his > cousin was downed in a Lancaster during the war. I sent him pictures of > the tombstones, now his father is really excited. He has asked me if I > knew anyone in Wintzenbach who speaks English. None of my wife's > relatives who live there speak English, at least not that they would > admit it. Her English speaking relatives that we work with live all over > France, but not in Wintzenbach. The only English speaking one from > Wintzenbach, a son of the ones who live in the family homestead there, > now is lives in Washington D.C. I'm trying to figure out who I might > suggest he lookup in Wintzenbach who might speak English. I know you > were close to there, if not there, and thought I would run this by you. > I'm thinking the Priest at St. Gilles, or someone in the Mayor's office. > Maybe someone knows if the Mayor's office has an email address. > > Gene > --
Gene, Refer to this site: http://www.mothern-tourisme.fr/resources/Pays+de+Seltz.pdf p. 19 - Heritage Monuments. It will give you some info in English about the crash of the Lancaster. Charlie
Many teenagers do speak English..ask anyone in a pub there to contact anyone in advance. Just a thought. Doris **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)
Gene, I'm sorry but to my knowledge I have no connections in Wintzenbach although I'm sure that your wife's line and mine link from 3+ hundred years ago. While in Wintzenbach last year and once before I don't recall seeing any grave plot that would lend one to believe an allied airman was buried there. However, I was only looking for SCHENCK and SCHMITTHAEUSLER graves. I'd imagine that there is another cemetery along with the small Catholic church cemetery but never did see it. Just found this on the internet. http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Carmarthenshire/Laugharne.html Is he the man they are researching? PHILLIPS Frank David T. Flight Sergeant, 1128364, 35 Squadron, Royal Air Force, 20th Oct 1944, Wintzenbach Churchyard, Grave 2, Bas-Rhin-France The priest - doubt he speaks English and could be responsible for other village churches. I met one priest last year who had 7 parishes under his wing. Never went into the Mairie so I can't say if there's someone there who speaks English. Many offices are not open everyday but do have a regular schedule of hours. Some villages have e-mail but can't speak for Wintzenbach. Problem Gene is attempting to help someone when I'm not in the loop. If you want to have them contact me I'll try to arrange between them and one of my cousins or friends some hopeful assistance or connection to someone in the area who is available and does speak English. Can't promise but can try. Do they have transportation; place to stay while in the area???? Take care. Charlie ----- Original Message ----- Subject: [A-L] Wintzenbach > Charlie: (Or anyone else who might have a suggestion) > > A fellow in England I am in contact with has asked me about English > speaking people in Wintzenbach. His father and mother are planning on > visiting Wintzenbach in a month to see if they can find the grave of his > cousin was downed in a Lancaster during the war. I sent him pictures of > the tombstones, now his father is really excited. He has asked me if I > knew anyone in Wintzenbach who speaks English. None of my wife's > relatives who live there speak English, at least not that they would > admit it. Her English speaking relatives that we work with live all over > France, but not in Wintzenbach. The only English speaking one from > Wintzenbach, a son of the ones who live in the family homestead there, > now is lives in Washington D.C. I'm trying to figure out who I might > suggest he lookup in Wintzenbach who might speak English. I know you > were close to there, if not there, and thought I would run this by you. > I'm thinking the Priest at St. Gilles, or someone in the Mayor's office. > Maybe someone knows if the Mayor's office has an email address. > > Gene