Dear Robert, Does the Colmar archives contain any records from Bas-Rhin or only from Haut Rhin? My families are from Muttersholtz and Baldenheim and Sundhausen, which are all just north of Colmar in Bas-Rhin. A couple families are from Haut Rhin. I will send you the town names if I can find them. Thank you! Sharon Centanne RobtBehra@aol.com wrote: >I'm going to be spending four weeks in France (last week of March, first >three weeks in April) and I would be happy to send a postcard to anyone with >ancestors from the following towns in the valleys of the Thur and Doller rivers in >the département du Haut-Rhin: > >Altenbach >Bitschwiller-lès-Thann >Bourbach-le-Bas >Bourbach-le-Haut >Dolleren >Fellering >Geishouse >Goldbach >Husseren-Wesserling >Kirchberg >Kruth >Lauw >Malmerspach >Masevaux >Mitzach >Mollau >Moosch >Niederbruck >Oberbruck >Oderen >Rammersmatt >Ranspach >Rimbach-près-Masevaux >Roderen >Saint-Amarin >Sewen >Sickert >Storckensohn >Thann >Urbès >Wegscheid >Wildenstein >Willer-sur-Thur > >That presumes, of course, that I can find a postcard for each of these towns. > I hope to set foot in each place and will do my best to get images one way >or another. I'm taking a digital camera, but I am not a very good >photographer so the views from postcards are likely to be better. And with so much >available online, interest in postcards may be rather low. Still, if you are >interested send me your name and mailing address privately (please don't reply to >the list) along with the town(s) you are interested in. I plan to send the >postcards in envelopes, so you'll get one that is unmarked and undamaged by >postal machinery. > >The first half of my trip will be in the company of my brother and our uncle >and aunt, just visiting relatives and seeing the areas where many of our >ancestors lived. The second half of the trip I intend to get two weeks of >intensive research done at the Archives Départementales in Colmar. I'm not taking >commissions for research -- too much I hope to get accomplished just for >myself. I'm sure to be shopping for books, too, both new and used. Shopping >online is very convenient, but there is no substitute for being able to thumb >through a book to determine whether it is worth buying. > >Robert Behra > > >************** >Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL >Living. > >(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > >
This is for those researching in Hoffen, Bas-Rhin or in the vicinity of Hohwiller, Bas-Rhin. If you are researching Hoffen I can do birth lookups between 1793 and 1900; and in Hohwiller the book I have lists 19th century families with some death dates extending into the 20th century. Information does include the names of many from outside the village who married a Hohwiller resident. Please make requests to me at: csherida@tampabay.rr.com Charlie
I'm going to be spending four weeks in France (last week of March, first three weeks in April) and I would be happy to send a postcard to anyone with ancestors from the following towns in the valleys of the Thur and Doller rivers in the département du Haut-Rhin: Altenbach Bitschwiller-lès-Thann Bourbach-le-Bas Bourbach-le-Haut Dolleren Fellering Geishouse Goldbach Husseren-Wesserling Kirchberg Kruth Lauw Malmerspach Masevaux Mitzach Mollau Moosch Niederbruck Oberbruck Oderen Rammersmatt Ranspach Rimbach-près-Masevaux Roderen Saint-Amarin Sewen Sickert Storckensohn Thann Urbès Wegscheid Wildenstein Willer-sur-Thur That presumes, of course, that I can find a postcard for each of these towns. I hope to set foot in each place and will do my best to get images one way or another. I'm taking a digital camera, but I am not a very good photographer so the views from postcards are likely to be better. And with so much available online, interest in postcards may be rather low. Still, if you are interested send me your name and mailing address privately (please don't reply to the list) along with the town(s) you are interested in. I plan to send the postcards in envelopes, so you'll get one that is unmarked and undamaged by postal machinery. The first half of my trip will be in the company of my brother and our uncle and aunt, just visiting relatives and seeing the areas where many of our ancestors lived. The second half of the trip I intend to get two weeks of intensive research done at the Archives Départementales in Colmar. I'm not taking commissions for research -- too much I hope to get accomplished just for myself. I'm sure to be shopping for books, too, both new and used. Shopping online is very convenient, but there is no substitute for being able to thumb through a book to determine whether it is worth buying. Robert Behra ************** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
Linda created the wonderful Riedseltz, Alsace, Website...However, as of late she seems to be unreachable... Linda, pls contact Charlie Sheridan at csherida@tampabay.rr.com Charlie has some wonderful Riedselz photos to share Shirley Haas Hulett Desc of HAURYs, KOLBs & many othrs from Riedseltz _____________________________________________________________ Click here for financial aid options. Quick and Easy. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iighof0OpLBCW2nmpFeq4zHS2u9hivLHLh8ZB4ps6v1sqUPMx/
I am looking for the all Alsatian immigrants to Wayne County, NY. I am interested in all immigrants from Hatten or Rittershoffen, Alsace in the 1820-1830 timespan. I will be traveling to these towns this fall and will be gathering information ahead of time. Lisa Fox upstate NY May your stride be strong, your smile wide and your hands be ready to help others. ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
Hello Giliane, Thank you so much for this explanation and for taking the time to translate it for me. It certainly sounds complicated, the way it was designed to work with the equinox. I should think it caused confusion with the people as well. Further, it could possibly be the explanation when we find a conflict in dates for our ancestors who had an event during the period of years that the calendar was in use. I appreciate your help and am glad to know my confusion had some merit! Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Giliane Bader-Wechseler To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: 19 February, 2008 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] French Republican Calendar and how to understand the textat the beginning of the records Linda, Your confusion is in fact a good observation. The new republican calendar was approved on October 5, 1793, but see below the extract from the "Décret de la Convention nationale, concernant l'ère des Français" of October 5, 1793 where Year one of the calendar began in fall of 1792) ARTICLE ONE. IV. La première année de la République française a commencé à minuit le 22 septembre 1792, et a fini à minuit, séparant le 21 du 22 septembre 1793. (The first year of the French Republique started at midnight on Septembre22 1792, and finished at midnight, between the 21 and 22nd Septembre 1793.) V. La deuxième année a commencé le 22 septembre 1793 à minuit, l'équinoxe vrai d'automne étant arrivé, pour l'observatoire de Paris, à 3 heures 7 minutes 19 secondes du soir. (The second year began on September 22 1793 at midnight, as the real autumn equinox started, from the Paris observatory, at 7 minutes and 19 secondes after 3 pm.) The actual calendar itself was approved on 24 October 1793, and after some revisions on the names the calendar got its final form on 24 November 1793. In other words, whenever they used the republican calendar in civil records, they started with year II. - Giliane -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda H. Gutierrez Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 6:58 PM To: ALSACE-LORRAINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [A-L] French Republican Calendar and how to understand the text atthe beginning of the records Hi everyone, LONG subject! OK. I have some records that were recorded during the years of the French Republic. I have now figured out what words were for the months and how they corresponded basically to our Calendar. But I am still having confusion on when this darn calendar started! The LDS website states that the calendar began on 24 October 1793 and ended 31 December 1805, but then on two other websites (Wkipedia among them) it states that year one was 1792-1793. So question one is: HOW do I count the years - from October 1792 or 1793 or ???? And what was year one? Question 2 has to do with the text that appears to have been preprinted on the first page of the records for that one of the years I am trying to determine: "Le présent régistre, contenant _____ (unreadable handwritten word) feuillets, celui-ci et le dernier non compris, a été, par nous Président du Tribunal de première instance de l'arrondissement de Belfort coté par premier et dernier, et paraphé à chaque feuillet, polir servir àl'enrégistrement des actes de ______ (unreadable handwritten words) qui auront lieu dans la commune de Gildwiller pendant l'as XII de la Republique. Fait au Prêtoire à Belfort le _____ (unreadable handwritten words) an XI de la République française." My question: Why does it talk about the 12th year in the first part and the 11th year after that? Immediately after the part about the 11th year the first record begins. And lastly, if I have a record for year 10, what year was it? Thank you and sorry for probably asking something that has been covered previously. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Linda, Your confusion is in fact a good observation. The new republican calendar was approved on October 5, 1793, but see below the extract from the "Décret de la Convention nationale, concernant l'ère des Français" of October 5, 1793 where Year one of the calendar began in fall of 1792) ARTICLE ONE. IV. La première année de la République française a commencé à minuit le 22 septembre 1792, et a fini à minuit, séparant le 21 du 22 septembre 1793. (The first year of the French Republique started at midnight on Septembre22 1792, and finished at midnight, between the 21 and 22nd Septembre 1793.) V. La deuxième année a commencé le 22 septembre 1793 à minuit, l'équinoxe vrai d'automne étant arrivé, pour l'observatoire de Paris, à 3 heures 7 minutes 19 secondes du soir. (The second year began on September 22 1793 at midnight, as the real autumn equinox started, from the Paris observatory, at 7 minutes and 19 secondes after 3 pm.) The actual calendar itself was approved on 24 October 1793, and after some revisions on the names the calendar got its final form on 24 November 1793. In other words, whenever they used the republican calendar in civil records, they started with year II. - Giliane -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda H. Gutierrez Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 6:58 PM To: ALSACE-LORRAINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [A-L] French Republican Calendar and how to understand the text atthe beginning of the records Hi everyone, LONG subject! OK. I have some records that were recorded during the years of the French Republic. I have now figured out what words were for the months and how they corresponded basically to our Calendar. But I am still having confusion on when this darn calendar started! The LDS website states that the calendar began on 24 October 1793 and ended 31 December 1805, but then on two other websites (Wkipedia among them) it states that year one was 1792-1793. So question one is: HOW do I count the years - from October 1792 or 1793 or ???? And what was year one? Question 2 has to do with the text that appears to have been preprinted on the first page of the records for that one of the years I am trying to determine: "Le présent régistre, contenant _____ (unreadable handwritten word) feuillets, celui-ci et le dernier non compris, a été, par nous Président du Tribunal de première instance de l'arrondissement de Belfort coté par premier et dernier, et paraphé à chaque feuillet, polir servir àl'enrégistrement des actes de ______ (unreadable handwritten words) qui auront lieu dans la commune de Gildwiller pendant l'as XII de la Republique. Fait au Prêtoire à Belfort le _____ (unreadable handwritten words) an XI de la République française." My question: Why does it talk about the 12th year in the first part and the 11th year after that? Immediately after the part about the 11th year the first record begins. And lastly, if I have a record for year 10, what year was it? Thank you and sorry for probably asking something that has been covered previously. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1285 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 5:50 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1287 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 10:55 AM
Linda You may already have this. I use this web site to convert Republican Calendar dates into Gregorian dates. It also has a little explanation of the Republican Calendar http://www.napoleon.org/en/essential_napoleon/calendar/index.asp Curt Miller -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> > Hi everyone, > > LONG subject! > > OK. I have some records that were recorded during the years of the French > Republic. I have now figured out what words were for the months and how they > corresponded basically to our Calendar. > > But I am still having confusion on when this darn calendar started! The LDS > website states that the calendar began on 24 October 1793 and ended 31 December > 1805, but then on two other websites (Wkipedia among them) it states that year > one was 1792-1793. So question one is: HOW do I count the years - from October > 1792 or 1793 or ???? And what was year one? > > Question 2 has to do with the text that appears to have been preprinted on the > first page of the records for that one of the years I am trying to determine: > > "Le présent régistre, contenant _____ (unreadable handwritten word) feuillets, > celui-ci et le dernier non compris, a été, par nous Président du Tribunal de > première instance de l'arrondissement de Belfort coté par premier et dernier, et > paraphé à chaque feuillet, polir servir àl'enrégistrement des actes de ______ > (unreadable handwritten words) qui auront lieu dans la commune de Gildwiller > pendant l'as XII de la Republique. > > Fait au Prêtoire à Belfort le _____ (unreadable handwritten words) an XI de la > République française." > > My question: Why does it talk about the 12th year in the first part and the > 11th year after that? Immediately after the part about the 11th year the first > record begins. > > And lastly, if I have a record for year 10, what year was it? > > Thank you and sorry for probably asking something that has been covered > previously. > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Ann, The information on the first website looks very much like what I found on Wikipedia.... interesting. I must be missing something - I found the convertor hard to work with. It doesn't ask for the day when trying to convert FROM the French Republican Calendar to the Gregorian Calendar so the results were off. Only if I added the information in the Gregorian Calendar section first did I get correct results. However, still a good tool! I did bookmark the page. Thank you! Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Staley To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: 18 February, 2008 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] French Republican Calendar and how to understand the textatthe beginning of the records The 10,000 Calendar website as an article on the calendar at http://encyclopedia.calendarhome.com/cgi-bin/encyclopedia.pl?p=French_Revolutionary_Calendar They also have a converter at http://calendarhome.com/converter/ Ann S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 6:58 PM Subject: [A-L] French Republican Calendar and how to understand the text atthe beginning of the records Hi everyone, LONG subject! OK. I have some records that were recorded during the years of the French Republic. I have now figured out what words were for the months and how they corresponded basically to our Calendar. But I am still having confusion on when this darn calendar started! The LDS website states that the calendar began on 24 October 1793 and ended 31 December 1805, but then on two other websites (Wkipedia among them) it states that year one was 1792-1793. So question one is: HOW do I count the years - from October 1792 or 1793 or ???? And what was year one? Question 2 has to do with the text that appears to have been preprinted on the first page of the records for that one of the years I am trying to determine: "Le présent régistre, contenant _____ (unreadable handwritten word) feuillets, celui-ci et le dernier non compris, a été, par nous Président du Tribunal de première instance de l'arrondissement de Belfort coté par premier et dernier, et paraphé à chaque feuillet, polir servir àl'enrégistrement des actes de ______ (unreadable handwritten words) qui auront lieu dans la commune de Gildwiller pendant l'as XII de la Republique. Fait au Prêtoire à Belfort le _____ (unreadable handwritten words) an XI de la République française." My question: Why does it talk about the 12th year in the first part and the 11th year after that? Immediately after the part about the 11th year the first record begins. And lastly, if I have a record for year 10, what year was it? Thank you and sorry for probably asking something that has been covered previously. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The 10,000 Calendar website as an article on the calendar at http://encyclopedia.calendarhome.com/cgi-bin/encyclopedia.pl?p=French_Revolutionary_Calendar They also have a converter at http://calendarhome.com/converter/ Ann S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 6:58 PM Subject: [A-L] French Republican Calendar and how to understand the text atthe beginning of the records Hi everyone, LONG subject! OK. I have some records that were recorded during the years of the French Republic. I have now figured out what words were for the months and how they corresponded basically to our Calendar. But I am still having confusion on when this darn calendar started! The LDS website states that the calendar began on 24 October 1793 and ended 31 December 1805, but then on two other websites (Wkipedia among them) it states that year one was 1792-1793. So question one is: HOW do I count the years - from October 1792 or 1793 or ???? And what was year one? Question 2 has to do with the text that appears to have been preprinted on the first page of the records for that one of the years I am trying to determine: "Le présent régistre, contenant _____ (unreadable handwritten word) feuillets, celui-ci et le dernier non compris, a été, par nous Président du Tribunal de première instance de l'arrondissement de Belfort coté par premier et dernier, et paraphé à chaque feuillet, polir servir àl'enrégistrement des actes de ______ (unreadable handwritten words) qui auront lieu dans la commune de Gildwiller pendant l'as XII de la Republique. Fait au Prêtoire à Belfort le _____ (unreadable handwritten words) an XI de la République française." My question: Why does it talk about the 12th year in the first part and the 11th year after that? Immediately after the part about the 11th year the first record begins. And lastly, if I have a record for year 10, what year was it? Thank you and sorry for probably asking something that has been covered previously. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Curt, No, I did not have that - What a clever tool! And it helped me immediately because I was beginning to think I had been given an incorrect date - Now I know for sure! Thank you! Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: curtw@comcast.net To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: 18 February, 2008 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] French Republican Calendar and how to understand the textat the beginning of the records Linda You may already have this. I use this web site to convert Republican Calendar dates into Gregorian dates. It also has a little explanation of the Republican Calendar http://www.napoleon.org/en/essential_napoleon/calendar/index.asp Curt Miller -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> > Hi everyone, > > LONG subject! > > OK. I have some records that were recorded during the years of the French > Republic. I have now figured out what words were for the months and how they > corresponded basically to our Calendar. > > But I am still having confusion on when this darn calendar started! The LDS > website states that the calendar began on 24 October 1793 and ended 31 December > 1805, but then on two other websites (Wkipedia among them) it states that year > one was 1792-1793. So question one is: HOW do I count the years - from October > 1792 or 1793 or ???? And what was year one? > > Question 2 has to do with the text that appears to have been preprinted on the > first page of the records for that one of the years I am trying to determine: > > "Le présent régistre, contenant _____ (unreadable handwritten word) feuillets, > celui-ci et le dernier non compris, a été, par nous Président du Tribunal de > première instance de l'arrondissement de Belfort coté par premier et dernier, et > paraphé à chaque feuillet, polir servir àl'enrégistrement des actes de ______ > (unreadable handwritten words) qui auront lieu dans la commune de Gildwiller > pendant l'as XII de la Republique. > > Fait au Prêtoire à Belfort le _____ (unreadable handwritten words) an XI de la > République française." > > My question: Why does it talk about the 12th year in the first part and the > 11th year after that? Immediately after the part about the 11th year the first > record begins. > > And lastly, if I have a record for year 10, what year was it? > > Thank you and sorry for probably asking something that has been covered > previously. > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi everyone, LONG subject! OK. I have some records that were recorded during the years of the French Republic. I have now figured out what words were for the months and how they corresponded basically to our Calendar. But I am still having confusion on when this darn calendar started! The LDS website states that the calendar began on 24 October 1793 and ended 31 December 1805, but then on two other websites (Wkipedia among them) it states that year one was 1792-1793. So question one is: HOW do I count the years - from October 1792 or 1793 or ???? And what was year one? Question 2 has to do with the text that appears to have been preprinted on the first page of the records for that one of the years I am trying to determine: "Le présent régistre, contenant _____ (unreadable handwritten word) feuillets, celui-ci et le dernier non compris, a été, par nous Président du Tribunal de première instance de l'arrondissement de Belfort coté par premier et dernier, et paraphé à chaque feuillet, polir servir àl'enrégistrement des actes de ______ (unreadable handwritten words) qui auront lieu dans la commune de Gildwiller pendant l'as XII de la Republique. Fait au Prêtoire à Belfort le _____ (unreadable handwritten words) an XI de la République française." My question: Why does it talk about the 12th year in the first part and the 11th year after that? Immediately after the part about the 11th year the first record begins. And lastly, if I have a record for year 10, what year was it? Thank you and sorry for probably asking something that has been covered previously. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/
Thank you Charlie. The message has been conveyed. It appears that the trip is coming together nicely. This is yet another of those gut wrenching left overs from W.W.II and this trip will hopefully provide at least some of the needed closure. I feel terrible that I only had pictures of 5 of the 8 tombstones and one of the ones I am missing is the one he is looking for. That will be fixed shortly. I know a picture is not going to provide the closure for this man, he needs to go there, but at least a picture of the tombstone would have helped. I wish to thank you all for your assistance. It was most certainly, considerable, and very helpful. I will let you know how the trip turns out after they return. This is a most wonderful list. Thanks again Gene Charlie wrote: >Gene, > >I asked my cousin to call the Mairie in Wintzenbach. Here's what he sent me. > >About Wintzenbach : Secrétaire of Mairie is Muriel Heintzelmann. Office is open on every day except Wednesday and of course Saturday and Sunday. Your persons from England have to make an appointment with her. Per phone : 0033388865590. She is able to speak a school English and is disposed to help them in their research. > >Charlie > >
There has been a lot of good information about taking photos of information from microfilms; I wonder if some kind person (and more knowledgeable than I) pulling it altogether and posting - then we could copy that into our computers for future reference. Gloria Ishida (Soon to be moving to just outside Tokyo where I can more readily get to the Family History Center. Of course, there is very little in English and I will have to have them order microfilms.)
Gene, I asked my cousin to call the Mairie in Wintzenbach. Here's what he sent me. About Wintzenbach : Secrétaire of Mairie is Muriel Heintzelmann. Office is open on every day except Wednesday and of course Saturday and Sunday. Your persons from England have to make an appointment with her. Per phone : 0033388865590. She is able to speak a school English and is disposed to help them in their research. Charlie
I have used plain yellow paper to read microfilms, against of the white background. I suppose you can put the yellow paper under the area where you preview the film for printing. There are also ways to fiddle with the machine and get the right exposure. Talk to the people in the library. They can show you. - Giliane -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adodge74@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:04 PM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] Microfilm copies or photographs In a message dated 2/16/2008 7:58:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ebarbarajo@verizon.net writes: bad. Is there a trick to getting clearer copies? Is it possible to photograph the image somehow? I ran the copy through my scanner and it is a bit better, but still pretty bad. I have been told at the Momon Center to take a yellow Easter wrapping paper something similar like it and it will give it a better outcome. Good Luck,Doris. **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-du ffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 2/16/2008 2:16 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 2/16/2008 2:16 PM
Barbara, I have this at the library where I work. The microfilm reader is hooked up to a computer. There is an Image Scan program on the computer that lets you scan the image (usually an 8.5 x 11). You darken or lighten the image and despeckle it. Then you have the option to print or save the image to the computer drive. You then transfer/copy your image to your flash drive. I would imagine that is what they have at SLC. Maria -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Eidel <ebarbarajo@verizon.net> To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:18 am Subject: [A-L] Microfilm readers Hello Listers! Yesterday, someone told me that there is a microfilm reader at the SLC library that allows you to copy the image onto a flash drive. Does anyone know how this works? How clear is the image? I'm thinking that this alone may be worth a trip to Salt Lake City! Thanks! Barb Eidel Apple Valley, CA -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
Hi Barb, Both of the Mormon Family History Centers near me have such a device, freely available. You place the film in it, just like a regular microfilm viewer. When you have just the image and size you want, instead of printing it (which is an option) you press the doodad on the attached computer and a digital copy is made. The image being further adjustable, right there, as to darkness and brightness. It's great. And not even the printing charge. Take it home on the thumb drive. I understand that this computer attached viewer is expensive so maybe not all centers have them yet. Hugh **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
I think they can do that at any local library.............they have to take the film from the reader and attach it somehow to the computer reader and then can make a copy to a flash drive.............someone did that for me here in Florida..... -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Eidel <ebarbarajo@verizon.net> To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:18 am Subject: [A-L] Microfilm readers Hello Listers! Yesterday, someone told me that there is a microfilm reader at the SLC library that allows you to copy the image onto a flash drive. Does anyone know how this works? How clear is the image? I'm thinking that this alone may be worth a trip to Salt Lake City! Thanks! Barb Eidel Apple Valley, CA -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
I've used the readers like this available at the Los Angeles FHC and the scans are excellent. Usually better than making a printed copy off the microfilm. And the price is cheaper there - 10 cents a scan vs. 25 cents per printed page. Much easier to work with, too, as you can create folders on your flash drive as you go along and keep everything organized. Ray Hello Listers! Yesterday, someone told me that there is a microfilm reader at the SLC library that allows you to copy the image onto a flash drive. Does anyone know how this works? How clear is the image? I'm thinking that this alone may be worth a trip to Salt Lake City! Thanks! Barb Eidel Apple Valley, CA -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com<http://webmail.aol.com/> -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message