Frank and Gloria Thank you. I think you found Franckendall. Oberkischif was probably a very small village linked to Franckendall. Curt -------------- Original message -------------- From: Gloria Ishida <gfb-ishida@gol.com> > Curt, > > It looks to me that Franckendall is now called Frankenthal (Pfalz- > there are other Frankenthals in Germany), which is about 5-6 miles from > Worms. As per Wikipedia, the ruins of the Augustinian Monastery you > noted is in the center of town. > > Gloria I > On 4 7, 2008, at 8:29 AM, curtw@comcast.net wrote: > > > According to the marriage certificate of my third great grandparents, > > Jacques Schwertzler and Marianne Schwartz, Marianne was born 2 October > > 1793 in Oberkischif near Franckendall. I have not been able to find a > > village named Oberkischif or Franckendall. > > > > Today I decided to Google Franckendall which resulted in a number of > > hits. Franckendall was a monastery built about 1119 by Eckenbertus > > Kemerer, a rich gentleman of the city of Wormes. The person who wrote > > this account was traveling from Spira to Wormes. From Spira it was > > twelve miles to Franckendall and then five miles to Wormes. > > > > I still am having no luck finding Franckendall and am looking for any > > suggestions. > > > > I found this information on page 399 of > > Coryat's Crudities: Reprinted from the Edition of 1611 > > This book can be found on Google Books. > > > > Curt Miller > > > > -- > > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to the marriage certificate of my third great grandparents, Jacques Schwertzler and Marianne Schwartz, Marianne was born 2 October 1793 in Oberkischif near Franckendall. I have not been able to find a village named Oberkischif or Franckendall. Today I decided to Google Franckendall which resulted in a number of hits. Franckendall was a monastery built about 1119 by Eckenbertus Kemerer, a rich gentleman of the city of Wormes. The person who wrote this account was traveling from Spira to Wormes. From Spira it was twelve miles to Franckendall and then five miles to Wormes. I still am having no luck finding Franckendall and am looking for any suggestions. I found this information on page 399 of Coryat's Crudities: Reprinted from the Edition of 1611 This book can be found on Google Books. Curt Miller

Could the village be Frankenthal which is about 5 miles south of Worms? About 15 miles to the south of Frankenthal is Speyer. Could this be your Spira? I could not locate Oberkischif. Frank in Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: <curtw@comcast.net> To: "Alsace-Lorraine" <ALSACE-LORRAINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: [A-L] Oberkischif near Franckendall > According to the marriage certificate of my third great grandparents, Jacques Schwertzler and Marianne Schwartz, Marianne was born 2 October 1793 in Oberkischif near Franckendall. I have not been able to find a village named Oberkischif or Franckendall. > > Today I decided to Google Franckendall which resulted in a number of hits. Franckendall was a monastery built about 1119 by Eckenbertus Kemerer, a rich gentleman of the city of Wormes. The person who wrote this account was traveling from Spira to Wormes. From Spira it was twelve miles to Franckendall and then five miles to Wormes. > > I still am having no luck finding Franckendall and am looking for any suggestions. > > I found this information on page 399 of > Coryat's Crudities: Reprinted from the Edition of 1611 > This book can be found on Google Books. > > Curt Miller > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

''chartier'' is perhaps a misswritting of ''charretier", a carter or a carrier according to my French-English dictionary. Ewald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Francis" <dave.francis@sbcglobal.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Occupation translation from census > Catherine, > I don't know what a Chartier is, Tailleur D'habits is a tailor > not to be confused with a Tailleur de Pierre, which is a stonecutter. > You are correct on all of the rest of the professions. > > Dave > > Catherine DiPietro wrote: >> Greetings/Bonjour, >> >> I have these translations and would like any corrections >> of these professions from the 1841 Fessenheim census >> >> Journalier = day laborer? >> Hacheur de paille = straw chopper? >> Tisserand = weaver? >> Sage Femme = midwife? >> Aieule des precedents = grandmother of above? >> Chartier = map maker?? >> Tailleur D'habits = ?? >> >> I am connecting with Fessenheim, Haut-Rhin families: >> BADER, BENDER, BRENDER, FRISCH, LAEMLE, SCHMITT and >> WALDESPERGER, etc. I would enjoy comparing notes on >> these families and/or the local area and history. >> >> Many thanks in advance, >> Cathy >> >> >> > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A "chartier" is a "tabellion" charged with the writing of chartes (charters). A tabellion usually was a person responsible for the conservation of acts written by royal notaries and the distribution of copies, until the beginning of the 17th century in the North of France. - Giliane -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Francis Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 10:57 AM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] Occupation translation from census Catherine, I don't know what a Chartier is, Tailleur D'habits is a tailor not to be confused with a Tailleur de Pierre, which is a stonecutter. You are correct on all of the rest of the professions. Dave Catherine DiPietro wrote: > Greetings/Bonjour, > > I have these translations and would like any corrections > of these professions from the 1841 Fessenheim census > > Journalier = day laborer? > Hacheur de paille = straw chopper? > Tisserand = weaver? > Sage Femme = midwife? > Aieule des precedents = grandmother of above? > Chartier = map maker?? > Tailleur D'habits = ?? > > I am connecting with Fessenheim, Haut-Rhin families: > BADER, BENDER, BRENDER, FRISCH, LAEMLE, SCHMITT and > WALDESPERGER, etc. I would enjoy comparing notes on > these families and/or the local area and history. > > Many thanks in advance, > Cathy > > > -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: 4/5/2008 7:53 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: 4/5/2008 7:53 AM

Catherine, I don't know what a Chartier is, Tailleur D'habits is a tailor not to be confused with a Tailleur de Pierre, which is a stonecutter. You are correct on all of the rest of the professions. Dave Catherine DiPietro wrote: > Greetings/Bonjour, > > I have these translations and would like any corrections > of these professions from the 1841 Fessenheim census > > Journalier = day laborer? > Hacheur de paille = straw chopper? > Tisserand = weaver? > Sage Femme = midwife? > Aieule des precedents = grandmother of above? > Chartier = map maker?? > Tailleur D'habits = ?? > > I am connecting with Fessenheim, Haut-Rhin families: > BADER, BENDER, BRENDER, FRISCH, LAEMLE, SCHMITT and > WALDESPERGER, etc. I would enjoy comparing notes on > these families and/or the local area and history. > > Many thanks in advance, > Cathy > > >

The last one is clothing tailor, I believe. Jacquie -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Catherine DiPietro Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 7:54 AM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: [A-L] Occupation translation from census Greetings/Bonjour, I have these translations and would like any corrections of these professions from the 1841 Fessenheim census Journalier = day laborer? Hacheur de paille = straw chopper? Tisserand = weaver? Sage Femme = midwife? Aieule des precedents = grandmother of above? Chartier = map maker?? Tailleur D'habits = ?? I am connecting with Fessenheim, Haut-Rhin families: BADER, BENDER, BRENDER, FRISCH, LAEMLE, SCHMITT and WALDESPERGER, etc. I would enjoy comparing notes on these families and/or the local area and history. Many thanks in advance, Cathy -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I'm looking for the following information about 2 of the daughters of Nicolas MARCHAL & Marie PARMENTIER, married 24 October, 1722 in LaBroque, Bas Rhin, Alsace. #1..I show a daughter, Anna Maria, born 8 December, 1729, in Rothau, Bas Rhin. Is this the Marie MARCHAL who married Francois MARQUAIRE on 28 Jan, 1749, in Rothau? #2..Can someone tell me the birthdate of Marguerite Jeanne MARCHAL who married Louis de VOMECOURT on 28 May, 1754, in Rothau? I could not find her birth record in films of church records for Rothau. Many thanks for any help! Helen Sanders, from Pennsylvania, U.S.A. _________________________________________________________________ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N1653A

THANKS EVERYONE for the clarification. The film is at the Family History Center but I'm sure when I check it next Tuesday it will show that I did misread the word and you are all correct. Incidentally, I'm currently working on records for Phalsbourg, if anyone has an interest in that town. I don't have all the films yet but will probably be working on this town for the rest of the year. Ed WILHELM _ewgen@aol.com_ (mailto:ewgen@aol.com) **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

Greetings/Bonjour, I have these translations and would like any corrections of these professions from the 1841 Fessenheim census Journalier = day laborer? Hacheur de paille = straw chopper? Tisserand = weaver? Sage Femme = midwife? Aieule des precedents = grandmother of above? Chartier = map maker?? Tailleur D'habits = ?? I am connecting with Fessenheim, Haut-Rhin families: BADER, BENDER, BRENDER, FRISCH, LAEMLE, SCHMITT and WALDESPERGER, etc. I would enjoy comparing notes on these families and/or the local area and history. Many thanks in advance, Cathy

Ed, Could you scan and e-mail to me? I can't see an equivalent... - Giliane gbw1@comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of EWGEN@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:17 PM To: ALSACE-LORRAINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [A-L] Occupation ? - carquettier I can't find this occupation in any of my French dictionaries. Probably I have it spelled wrong but the records, circa 1860, are in good condition and that does appear to be the spelling. Any suggestions? Ed WILHELM _ewgen@aol.com_ (mailto:ewgen@aol.com) **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1356 - Release Date: 4/2/2008 4:14 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1356 - Release Date: 4/2/2008 4:14 PM

I can't find this occupation in any of my French dictionaries. Probably I have it spelled wrong but the records, circa 1860, are in good condition and that does appear to be the spelling. Any suggestions? Ed WILHELM _ewgen@aol.com_ (mailto:ewgen@aol.com) **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

Bonjour Quirin encore, Voici l'information de marriage Nom: Joseph Corbeau Nom de conjoint: Sarah Levy Date: 1867 Place: Manhattan, New York, New York Marriage Identification nombre: 2220776327 Nombre de certificat: 6419 Il est tres facile de commander un certificat du mariage de Manhattan. Si vous le voulez, faite-moi savior. Dans le recensement 1870 il y a seulement un Joseph Corbeau avec une épouse appelée "Emma" et un fils, Henry age 1. Nom: Joseph Corbeau, male, boucher, Ne: circa 1832, Age en 1870: 38, Lieu de Naissance: France, Residence: New York Ward 11, district 23, 96 Colombia Street, New York, New York Dans le recensement 1880 Je ne vois rien. Bob Teitelbaum

Hi Fabio, Here's a long shot. A SCHALL line existed in Eberbach Seltz, Bas-Rhin. These people were all from Eberbach-Seltz. Info from the AGAWE book of Eberbach-Seltz - Catholic marriage records 1788-1843. The other 2 volumes are: Baptisms 1735-1810 (1st SCHALL birth recorded in 1744) and Burials 1763-1813. 21 Nov 1815 - Anthony SCHALL, age 28, a farmer and son of Anthoni and Maria Anna AMBOS married Catharina FUHRMANN dau of Joseph+ and Maria Ursula STOLTZ+. I had remembered a SCHALL family in Riedseltz and that man, a son of the above, married a woman from Riedseltz and moved there and that info led me to Eberbach-Seltz. However, Auguste Antoine was not born in Riedseltz. Unfortunately I do not have the Eberbach-Seltz civil films and therefore can not tell if your Auguste Antoine is of this line. Perhaps someone on this list is researching that village and can be of assistance or perhaps a member is in Salt Lake City and can do a look-up for you. Good Luck. Charlie csherida@tampabay.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Contato Runway Site" <contatorunway@gmail.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:36 PM Subject: [A-L] RES: RES: message Thanks a lot for your help Fabio Schall -----Mensagem original----- De: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] Em nome de Linda H. Gutierrez Enviada em: terça-feira, 1 de abril de 2008 14:36 Para: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Assunto: Re: [A-L] RES: message Hello Fabio, In 1871, much of Alsace and of Lorraine provinces became part of Germany. If he left in 1878 or 1879, MAYBE he was living in an area that did not become part of Germany since you say his passport was from France. This is merely a guess on my part, so please do not assume that I know more than you. Someone else suggested that you search Geneanet.com which is a very good idea. You can get an idea of the names of the French communities where your SCHALL surname was. Also suggested was to try other spellings which is a VERY good idea. My Alsatian surname is WADEL and it has been spelled MANY ways in records both in France and in the US. If you visit the archives for this list you will find a recent discussion about the spelling of surnames which is very informative. Looking at this website http://www.geopatronyme.com/ your SCHALL surname was VERY prevalent in department 67 Bas Rhin between 1891 and 1915. This may help you to narrow your search some. I hope that some of this helps you in your search. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Contato Runway Site To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: 01 April, 2008 8:10 AM Subject: [A-L] RES: message Hello Linda The Passaport is france - Alsace Lorraine but not tell me the city or village -----Mensagem original----- De: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] Em nome de Linda H. Gutierrez Enviada em: segunda-feira, 31 de março de 2008 19:55 Para: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Assunto: Re: [A-L] message Hello Fabio, >From what country was the passport issued? Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Contato Runway Site To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com Sent: 31 March, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: [A-L] message Hello My name is Fabio Eduardo Schall . I Living in Brasil , São Paulo and I making my ancestor family tree. I need help because Alsace is fair from me.?? The oldest document I have is a passaport in name of Auguste Antoine Schall of 1878 or 1879 .This guy died in Brasil 1912 with 65 years In the passaporte of Auguste tell he comes from Alsace Lorraine region Also I have other document say his father is Antoine Schall , Sister Josephine Schall , Brother Charles Schall Can you help me or indicate who can??? Thanks a lot Fabio Schall No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. 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Bonjour Philippe, En vous inscrivant au forum ''Région Alsace" sur le site www.genealogie.com (en français), vous trouverez quelqu'un qui vous fera vos recherches. Peut-être le lien ci-dessous vous amènera-t-il directement sur le forum pour y écrire un message (à essayer) : http://www.genealogie.com/v4/forums/recherches-genealogiques-region-alsace-m9859053.html#9859053 Bien cordialement Ewald (d'Alsace) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bonjour à tous, Quelqu'un d'entre vous n'aurait-il pas dans ses archives, ou ne se rendrait-il pas à Haguenau pour me trouver les acxtes suivants : - de naissance et de décès de Francis CORBEAU, vers 1800, Décédé vers 1883 - de mariage de Deborah MANTEL, dont : enfant 1 : Marx CORBEAU, Né en 1828 à Haguenau (Bas-Rhin), France enfant 2 : Joseph CORBEAU, vers 1830 à Haguenau (Bas-Rhin), France, ci-dessous enfant 3 : Simon CORBEAU, Né en 1835 à Haguenau (Bas-Rhin), France enfant 4 : Barbe CORBEAU, Née en 1840 à Haguenau (Bas-Rhin), France Joseph CORBEAU, Né vers 1830 à Haguenau (Bas-Rhin), France Fils de Francis CORBEAU et de Deborah MANTEL Marié le 10/11/1867 à Manhattan (New York), USA avec Sarah LEVY Ce sont les ascendants de Joseph CORBEAU qui m'a sauvé la vie en 1944 ! Je ne cherche donc pas à établir une généalogie complète, mais à situer cette famille. J'espère que je n'abuse pas de votre complaisance. Merci d'avance, Quirin 2008-04-02

Bonjour à tous, Je cherche à situer l’ascendance sur deux ou trois générations, de celui qui m’a sauvé la vie en 1944. Parmi cette ascendance, il y a : Joseph Francis CORBEAU, Né vers 1882 à Bofflens (CH-1353), Suisse, Bofflans Vaud Fils de Joseph CORBEAU et de Sarah LEVY Quelqu’un parmi vous pourrait-il me donner plus d’information sur cette naissance et sur les parents. D’avance je vous en remercie chaleureusement. Quirin, de Belgique 2008-04-02

Bonjour à tous, Quelqu’un d’entre vous n’aurait-il pas dans ses archives, ou ne se rendrait-il pas à Haguenau pour me trouver les acxtes suivants : - de naissance et de décès de Francis CORBEAU, vers 1800, Décédé vers 1883 - de mariage de Deborah MANTEL, dont : enfant 1 : Marx CORBEAU, Né en 1828 à Haguenau (Bas-Rhin), France enfant 2 : Joseph CORBEAU, vers 1830 à Haguenau (Bas-Rhin), France, ci-dessous enfant 3 : Simon CORBEAU, Né en 1835 à Haguenau (Bas-Rhin), France enfant 4 : Barbe CORBEAU, Née en 1840 à Haguenau (Bas-Rhin), France Joseph CORBEAU, Né vers 1830 à Haguenau (Bas-Rhin), France Fils de Francis CORBEAU et de Deborah MANTEL Marié le 10/11/1867 à Manhattan (New York), USA avec Sarah LEVY Ce sont les ascendants de Joseph CORBEAU qui m’a sauvé la vie en 1944 ! Je ne cherche donc pas à établir une généalogie complète, mais à situer cette famille. J’espère que je n’abuse pas de votre complaisance. Merci d’avance, Quirin 2008-04-02

Thanks a lot for your help Fabio Schall -----Mensagem original----- De: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] Em nome de Linda H. Gutierrez Enviada em: terça-feira, 1 de abril de 2008 14:36 Para: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Assunto: Re: [A-L] RES: message Hello Fabio, In 1871, much of Alsace and of Lorraine provinces became part of Germany. If he left in 1878 or 1879, MAYBE he was living in an area that did not become part of Germany since you say his passport was from France. This is merely a guess on my part, so please do not assume that I know more than you. Someone else suggested that you search Geneanet.com which is a very good idea. You can get an idea of the names of the French communities where your SCHALL surname was. Also suggested was to try other spellings which is a VERY good idea. My Alsatian surname is WADEL and it has been spelled MANY ways in records both in France and in the US. If you visit the archives for this list you will find a recent discussion about the spelling of surnames which is very informative. Looking at this website http://www.geopatronyme.com/ your SCHALL surname was VERY prevalent in department 67 Bas Rhin between 1891 and 1915. This may help you to narrow your search some. I hope that some of this helps you in your search. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Contato Runway Site To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: 01 April, 2008 8:10 AM Subject: [A-L] RES: message Hello Linda The Passaport is france - Alsace Lorraine but not tell me the city or village -----Mensagem original----- De: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] Em nome de Linda H. Gutierrez Enviada em: segunda-feira, 31 de março de 2008 19:55 Para: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Assunto: Re: [A-L] message Hello Fabio, >From what country was the passport issued? Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Contato Runway Site To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com Sent: 31 March, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: [A-L] message Hello My name is Fabio Eduardo Schall . I Living in Brasil , São Paulo and I making my ancestor family tree. I need help because Alsace is fair from me.?? The oldest document I have is a passaport in name of Auguste Antoine Schall of 1878 or 1879 .This guy died in Brasil 1912 with 65 years In the passaporte of Auguste tell he comes from Alsace Lorraine region Also I have other document say his father is Antoine Schall , Sister Josephine Schall , Brother Charles Schall Can you help me or indicate who can??? Thanks a lot Fabio Schall No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1352 - Release Date: 31/03/2008 10:13 -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1352 - Release Date: 31/03/2008 10:13 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1352 - Release Date: 31/03/2008 10:13 -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 01/04/2008 05:38 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.4/1355 - Release Date: 01/04/2008 17:37

Hello Fabio, In 1871, much of Alsace and of Lorraine provinces became part of Germany. If he left in 1878 or 1879, MAYBE he was living in an area that did not become part of Germany since you say his passport was from France. This is merely a guess on my part, so please do not assume that I know more than you. Someone else suggested that you search Geneanet.com which is a very good idea. You can get an idea of the names of the French communities where your SCHALL surname was. Also suggested was to try other spellings which is a VERY good idea. My Alsatian surname is WADEL and it has been spelled MANY ways in records both in France and in the US. If you visit the archives for this list you will find a recent discussion about the spelling of surnames which is very informative. Looking at this website http://www.geopatronyme.com/ your SCHALL surname was VERY prevalent in department 67 Bas Rhin between 1891 and 1915. This may help you to narrow your search some. I hope that some of this helps you in your search. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Contato Runway Site To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: 01 April, 2008 8:10 AM Subject: [A-L] RES: message Hello Linda The Passaport is france - Alsace Lorraine but not tell me the city or village -----Mensagem original----- De: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] Em nome de Linda H. Gutierrez Enviada em: segunda-feira, 31 de março de 2008 19:55 Para: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Assunto: Re: [A-L] message Hello Fabio, >From what country was the passport issued? Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Contato Runway Site To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com Sent: 31 March, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: [A-L] message Hello My name is Fabio Eduardo Schall . I Living in Brasil , São Paulo and I making my ancestor family tree. I need help because Alsace is fair from me.?? The oldest document I have is a passaport in name of Auguste Antoine Schall of 1878 or 1879 .This guy died in Brasil 1912 with 65 years In the passaporte of Auguste tell he comes from Alsace Lorraine region Also I have other document say his father is Antoine Schall , Sister Josephine Schall , Brother Charles Schall Can you help me or indicate who can??? Thanks a lot Fabio Schall No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1352 - Release Date: 31/03/2008 10:13 -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1352 - Release Date: 31/03/2008 10:13 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1352 - Release Date: 31/03/2008 10:13 -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message