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There are many BISCH in WESTHOFFEN Alsace (near STRASBOURG 28 km ) http://search.geneanet.org/result.php3?lang=fr&name=bisch&place=westhoffen&country=&source=&x=0&y=0 Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles and Madelyn" <ctucker@mchsi.com> To: "Laun Charlie" <claun@beardsley.com>; <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Bisch origin > This definitely sounds like a lead. Thanks for your help > Maelyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laun Charlie" <claun@beardsley.com> > To: "Charles and Madelyn" <ctucker@mchsi.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:13 PM > Subject: Bisch origin > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laun Charlie > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:12 PM > To: 'alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com' > Subject: RE: [A-L] (no subject) > > There is a passport application on Ancestry.com for a Frederick Bisch, > Residing in Pittsburg PA, Born 30 Dec 1845 in Westhofen Germany. Arrived > in US 5 May 1885, Naturalized in US Western District Court, Pittsburg, > PA on 5 Nov 1891. > The application was made on the 14 May 1901. This is probably > Westhofen, Rhinepfaltz, Germany, Near Worms. > > Good Luck > -----Original Message----- > From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert E. > Hausman > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:39 PM > To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [A-L] (no subject) > > It was much easier to say you were from Germany in 1910 -before the > crusade against the Kaiser- than it was in 1920, two years after the > armistice. Take a look at some of the political cartoons during the war > years. > > Rob Hausman > > At 10:38 AM 4/10/2008, you wrote: >> I have tried many resources and have been unable to find much on my >> grandfather or grandmother. I have always heard that they were both >> from Alsace but have found no proof except on Census I have found my >> grandmothers parents Frederick and Elizabeth Bisch (I think nee >> Renner) were both from Germany in the 1910 USA census and had come >> over in 1983. However in the 1920 USA census Elizabeth was listed as > >> from Alsace and both of her parents were from Alsace. They were >> living in Piitsburgh PA on both of these censuses and my grandmother >> was Emma Bisch. My grandfather was John Kaechele. He stated on the >> 1910 census that he was Swiss-German as were his parents. I have been > >> told his parents were named Casper and Anna (nee Readausch) Kaechele. >> John died in 1915 in Pittsburgh. >> >>Thank you for this service. You help so many people find their roots. >> >>Madelyn Tucker >>Florida > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ^^^^^^^^ > > Robert E. Hausman > hausman@bu.edu > www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/a/u/Robert-E-Hausman/index.html > > HAUSMANN, ROUSSELET, HEERE, LAUBER, LATUS > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You're welcome. Sorry we couldn't find your ancestor. Ann -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Baldwin Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:18 AM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] ALSACE-LORRAINE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 146 Thank you Ann! Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 21:17:24 -0400 From: "Ann Williams" Subject: Re: [A-L] Jacobi family To: Cc: Deborahbuchner@aol.com Message-ID: <003201c89916$4d99bb70$6401a8c0@DF255441> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Hi Sharon, Yes, I am looking into this family. Sorry I don't have any information on your Henriette but I'm copying another person who also has Jacoby family members. Perhaps she has more information. Ann -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Baldwin Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 3:33 PM To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com Subject: [A-L] Jacobi family Hello, I am looking for the Jacobi family. I have very little information to go on. I know that they were from Alsace-Lorraine, but do not know which region specifically. The person in particular whose relatives I am looking for is Henriette Jacobi b. between 1818 and 1823. Her parents died when she was young and she went to live with another family. They treated her badly so she ran away. Family history says that she married a man by the name of Reuban Elsass Lorthringen and then somehow ended up in Prussia where she remarried. I know this is very sketchy, but if you have any thoughts as to where I should research, I'd really appreciate it! I am leaning towards the Bas-Rhin region, but that is only a hunch and not backed up by any proof. Thank you, Sharon Baldwin --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: 4/5/2008 7:53 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: 4/5/2008 7:53 AM ------------------------------ To contact the ALSACE-LORRAINE list administrator, send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ALSACE-LORRAINE mailing list, send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ALSACE-LORRAINE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 146 *********************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.11/1368 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 4:20 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.11/1368 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 4:20 PM

This definitely sounds like a lead. Thanks for your help Maelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laun Charlie" <claun@beardsley.com> To: "Charles and Madelyn" <ctucker@mchsi.com> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:13 PM Subject: Bisch origin -----Original Message----- From: Laun Charlie Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:12 PM To: 'alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [A-L] (no subject) There is a passport application on Ancestry.com for a Frederick Bisch, Residing in Pittsburg PA, Born 30 Dec 1845 in Westhofen Germany. Arrived in US 5 May 1885, Naturalized in US Western District Court, Pittsburg, PA on 5 Nov 1891. The application was made on the 14 May 1901. This is probably Westhofen, Rhinepfaltz, Germany, Near Worms. Good Luck -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert E. Hausman Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:39 PM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] (no subject) It was much easier to say you were from Germany in 1910 -before the crusade against the Kaiser- than it was in 1920, two years after the armistice. Take a look at some of the political cartoons during the war years. Rob Hausman At 10:38 AM 4/10/2008, you wrote: > I have tried many resources and have been unable to find much on my > grandfather or grandmother. I have always heard that they were both > from Alsace but have found no proof except on Census I have found my > grandmothers parents Frederick and Elizabeth Bisch (I think nee > Renner) were both from Germany in the 1910 USA census and had come > over in 1983. However in the 1920 USA census Elizabeth was listed as > from Alsace and both of her parents were from Alsace. They were > living in Piitsburgh PA on both of these censuses and my grandmother > was Emma Bisch. My grandfather was John Kaechele. He stated on the > 1910 census that he was Swiss-German as were his parents. I have been > told his parents were named Casper and Anna (nee Readausch) Kaechele. > John died in 1915 in Pittsburgh. > >Thank you for this service. You help so many people find their roots. > >Madelyn Tucker >Florida ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ Robert E. Hausman hausman@bu.edu www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/a/u/Robert-E-Hausman/index.html HAUSMANN, ROUSSELET, HEERE, LAUBER, LATUS -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the comments. I guess I confused things about the dates. My information is that the Kaecheles left Germany in 1873 and the Bisches left in 1885. I have found a US passport application for a Frederick Bisch that indicates this gentleman was born in Westhofen and arrived is US May 5, 1885 aboard the SS Harmonia from Harve. I am wondering if this might be my great grandfather. This was in 1901 and he lived in Pittsburgh as did the applicant. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] (no subject) > Hi Madelyn, > > It was customary for our ancestors to provide their location of birth > according to the political situation at the time they were asked this > question. In 1910, Alsace was part of Germany. It was returned to France > after WWI in 1918. Our job would be made easier if the name of a town was > provided along with the name of the country, but unfortunately this was > not the case. :-) > > If you check these resources: GeneaNet http://www.geneanet.org/ and > GeoPatronyme http://www.geopatronyme.com/ and input your surnames of > interest you should be able to get an idea of what locations your surnames > were most prevalent. This may help you to narrow your search to a > specific region of Alsace. I also recommend that you look through the > list of resources on Valorie's pages on the link at the end of this email. > > Your surname of BISCH I find interesting. I have at this time two people > in my lines with the surname of BITSCH. The BITSCH surname was prevalent > in the town of Gildwiller which is located in the department of Haut-Rhin, > Alsace. This I know from records I have worked with from the town of > Gildwiller. > > BTW, it is always best to provide a subject lines with your posts. Many > people tend to ignore anything without a subject line. > > I hope that this is of some help to you. > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Charles and Madelyn > To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > Sent: 10 April, 2008 8:38 AM > Subject: [A-L] (no subject) > > > I have tried many resources and have been unable to find much on my > grandfather or grandmother. I have always heard that they were both from > Alsace but have found no proof except on Census I have found my > grandmothers parents Frederick and Elizabeth Bisch (I think nee Renner) > were both from Germany in the 1910 USA census and had come over in 1983. > However in the 1920 USA census Elizabeth was listed as from Alsace and > both of her parents were from Alsace. They were living in Piitsburgh PA > on both of these censuses and my grandmother was Emma Bisch. My > grandfather was John Kaechele. He stated on the 1910 census that he was > Swiss-German as were his parents. I have been told his parents were named > Casper and Anna (nee Readausch) Kaechele. John died in 1915 in > Pittsburgh. > > Thank you for this service. You help so many people find their roots. > > Madelyn Tucker > Florida > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It was much easier to say you were from Germany in 1910 -before the crusade against the Kaiser- than it was in 1920, two years after the armistice. Take a look at some of the political cartoons during the war years. Rob Hausman At 10:38 AM 4/10/2008, you wrote: > I have tried many resources and have been unable to find much on my > grandfather or grandmother. I have always heard that they were both from > Alsace but have found no proof except on Census I have found my > grandmothers parents Frederick and Elizabeth Bisch (I think nee Renner) > were both from Germany in the 1910 USA census and had come over in > 1983. However in the 1920 USA census Elizabeth was listed as from > Alsace and both of her parents were from Alsace. They were living in > Piitsburgh PA on both of these censuses and my grandmother was Emma > Bisch. My grandfather was John Kaechele. He stated on the 1910 census > that he was Swiss-German as were his parents. I have been told his > parents were named Casper and Anna (nee Readausch) Kaechele. John died > in 1915 in Pittsburgh. > >Thank you for this service. You help so many people find their roots. > >Madelyn Tucker >Florida ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Robert E. Hausman hausman@bu.edu www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/a/u/Robert-E-Hausman/index.html HAUSMANN, ROUSSELET, HEERE, LAUBER, LATUS

Madelyn... Do you have their naturalization records? I think I would try to find them, if not. Have you looked for them in the Castle Garden or Ellis Island sites? How about church records? Just some suggestions off the top of my head in hopes that this will help. Louise **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

All I have is my fathers 93 y.o. memory and a Bible from the late 1800's in which my grandmother put some dates of deaths after 1914. I have no papers. My father said his family never talked much about family at all. I thank everyone for any comments or direction. Madelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <LHawthorne@aol.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:25 AM Subject: [A-L] BISCH - KAECHELE > Madelyn... > > Do you have their naturalization records? I think I would try to find > them, > if not. > Have you looked for them in the Castle Garden or Ellis Island sites? > How about church records? > > Just some suggestions off the top of my head in hopes that this will > help. > > Louise > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Madelyn, It was customary for our ancestors to provide their location of birth according to the political situation at the time they were asked this question. In 1910, Alsace was part of Germany. It was returned to France after WWI in 1918. Our job would be made easier if the name of a town was provided along with the name of the country, but unfortunately this was not the case. :-) If you check these resources: GeneaNet http://www.geneanet.org/ and GeoPatronyme http://www.geopatronyme.com/ and input your surnames of interest you should be able to get an idea of what locations your surnames were most prevalent. This may help you to narrow your search to a specific region of Alsace. I also recommend that you look through the list of resources on Valorie's pages on the link at the end of this email. Your surname of BISCH I find interesting. I have at this time two people in my lines with the surname of BITSCH. The BITSCH surname was prevalent in the town of Gildwiller which is located in the department of Haut-Rhin, Alsace. This I know from records I have worked with from the town of Gildwiller. BTW, it is always best to provide a subject lines with your posts. Many people tend to ignore anything without a subject line. I hope that this is of some help to you. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles and Madelyn To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: 10 April, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: [A-L] (no subject) I have tried many resources and have been unable to find much on my grandfather or grandmother. I have always heard that they were both from Alsace but have found no proof except on Census I have found my grandmothers parents Frederick and Elizabeth Bisch (I think nee Renner) were both from Germany in the 1910 USA census and had come over in 1983. However in the 1920 USA census Elizabeth was listed as from Alsace and both of her parents were from Alsace. They were living in Piitsburgh PA on both of these censuses and my grandmother was Emma Bisch. My grandfather was John Kaechele. He stated on the 1910 census that he was Swiss-German as were his parents. I have been told his parents were named Casper and Anna (nee Readausch) Kaechele. John died in 1915 in Pittsburgh. Thank you for this service. You help so many people find their roots. Madelyn Tucker Florida -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have tried many resources and have been unable to find much on my grandfather or grandmother. I have always heard that they were both from Alsace but have found no proof except on Census I have found my grandmothers parents Frederick and Elizabeth Bisch (I think nee Renner) were both from Germany in the 1910 USA census and had come over in 1983. However in the 1920 USA census Elizabeth was listed as from Alsace and both of her parents were from Alsace. They were living in Piitsburgh PA on both of these censuses and my grandmother was Emma Bisch. My grandfather was John Kaechele. He stated on the 1910 census that he was Swiss-German as were his parents. I have been told his parents were named Casper and Anna (nee Readausch) Kaechele. John died in 1915 in Pittsburgh. Thank you for this service. You help so many people find their roots. Madelyn Tucker Florida

Thank you Ann! Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 21:17:24 -0400 From: "Ann Williams" Subject: Re: [A-L] Jacobi family To: Cc: Deborahbuchner@aol.com Message-ID: <003201c89916$4d99bb70$6401a8c0@DF255441> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Hi Sharon, Yes, I am looking into this family. Sorry I don't have any information on your Henriette but I'm copying another person who also has Jacoby family members. Perhaps she has more information. Ann -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Baldwin Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 3:33 PM To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com Subject: [A-L] Jacobi family Hello, I am looking for the Jacobi family. I have very little information to go on. I know that they were from Alsace-Lorraine, but do not know which region specifically. The person in particular whose relatives I am looking for is Henriette Jacobi b. between 1818 and 1823. Her parents died when she was young and she went to live with another family. They treated her badly so she ran away. Family history says that she married a man by the name of Reuban Elsass Lorthringen and then somehow ended up in Prussia where she remarried. I know this is very sketchy, but if you have any thoughts as to where I should research, I'd really appreciate it! I am leaning towards the Bas-Rhin region, but that is only a hunch and not backed up by any proof. Thank you, Sharon Baldwin --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: 4/5/2008 7:53 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: 4/5/2008 7:53 AM ------------------------------ To contact the ALSACE-LORRAINE list administrator, send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ALSACE-LORRAINE mailing list, send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ALSACE-LORRAINE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 146 *********************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Diane, The largest database of worldwide names is at FamilySearch. Although not definitive, there are no entries for the surname MATZAT in France (includes Alsace-Lorraine). That database does show hundreds of that surname from East Prussia. At 02:00 AM 4/10/2008, you wrote: >From: "Diane Fletcher" <diane.fletcher@bsd.wednet.edu> >Subject: [A-L] Surname Matzat > >I too, am looking for some information on my great-grandfather. My >aunt said his family was from Alsace Lorraine. I don't think any of >them know where in the area. His name was Frederick Carl >Matzat. He was born in 1860. He came to the United States in 1888 >with his wife, Sophie Finis and a young daughter. I don't know her >name and she passed away soon after arriving here. It is said the >name was LaMatzat and was changed at some point in time. If there >is any small bits of information, I would truely appreciate the help. >Thank You, >Diane

My family has told me that my great grandpa Franciscus "Frank" Romain came from Alsace-Lorraine. The only information I can find is the census that says he was from France and born in 1840. A record I found for a "Frank" Romain says he sailed from LeHavre and arrived in New York 1871. He somehow ended up in the German part of Lively Grove, Washington County, Illinois. He married a woman named Mary and had John, Dominic, Frederick and Anna (Annie). They moved to Keuterville, Idaho where there were many other German families in 1888-89. Mary died shortly thereafter and is said to be the first person buried in the Keuterville Cemetery. Frank died in 1925 and spent much of his later years with his daughter Annie. Frank's son Frederick married Josepha Kaufmann in 1908 and they homesteaded to Montana in 1913. Thank you, Angela Romain in Phoenix, AZ

I too, am looking for some information on my great-grandfather. My aunt said his family was from Alsace Lorraine. I don't think any of them know where in the area. His name was Frederick Carl Matzat. He was born in 1860. He came to the United States in 1888 with his wife, Sophie Finis and a young daughter. I don't know her name and she passed away soon after arriving here. It is said the name was LaMatzat and was changed at some point in time. If there is any small bits of information, I would truely appreciate the help. Thank You, Diane

Hi Sharon, Yes, I am looking into this family. Sorry I don't have any information on your Henriette but I'm copying another person who also has Jacoby family members. Perhaps she has more information. Ann -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Baldwin Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 3:33 PM To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com Subject: [A-L] Jacobi family Hello, I am looking for the Jacobi family. I have very little information to go on. I know that they were from Alsace-Lorraine, but do not know which region specifically. The person in particular whose relatives I am looking for is Henriette Jacobi b. between 1818 and 1823. Her parents died when she was young and she went to live with another family. They treated her badly so she ran away. Family history says that she married a man by the name of Reuban Elsass Lorthringen and then somehow ended up in Prussia where she remarried. I know this is very sketchy, but if you have any thoughts as to where I should research, I'd really appreciate it! I am leaning towards the Bas-Rhin region, but that is only a hunch and not backed up by any proof. Thank you, Sharon Baldwin --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: 4/5/2008 7:53 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: 4/5/2008 7:53 AM

Hello, I am looking for the Jacobi family. I have very little information to go on. I know that they were from Alsace-Lorraine, but do not know which region specifically. The person in particular whose relatives I am looking for is Henriette Jacobi b. between 1818 and 1823. Her parents died when she was young and she went to live with another family. They treated her badly so she ran away. Family history says that she married a man by the name of Reuban Elsass Lorthringen and then somehow ended up in Prussia where she remarried. I know this is very sketchy, but if you have any thoughts as to where I should research, I'd really appreciate it! I am leaning towards the Bas-Rhin region, but that is only a hunch and not backed up by any proof. Thank you, Sharon Baldwin --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

Curt, Another suggestion: As you have suggested, Oberkischif may have been absorbed into Frankenthal or another town. Or the name of the village may be of a local dialect or the original writing may have been mistranscribed. Is the marriage certificate you have a religious one? If so, does it name the church? Is it signed by the pastor/priest? This could give you a major clue for further search. Gloria

Curt, It looks to me that Franckendall is now called Frankenthal (Pfalz- there are other Frankenthals in Germany), which is about 5-6 miles from Worms. As per Wikipedia, the ruins of the Augustinian Monastery you noted is in the center of town. Gloria I On 4 7, 2008, at 8:29 AM, curtw@comcast.net wrote: > According to the marriage certificate of my third great grandparents, > Jacques Schwertzler and Marianne Schwartz, Marianne was born 2 October > 1793 in Oberkischif near Franckendall. I have not been able to find a > village named Oberkischif or Franckendall. > > Today I decided to Google Franckendall which resulted in a number of > hits. Franckendall was a monastery built about 1119 by Eckenbertus > Kemerer, a rich gentleman of the city of Wormes. The person who wrote > this account was traveling from Spira to Wormes. From Spira it was > twelve miles to Franckendall and then five miles to Wormes. > > I still am having no luck finding Franckendall and am looking for any > suggestions. > > I found this information on page 399 of > Coryat's Crudities: Reprinted from the Edition of 1611 > This book can be found on Google Books. > > Curt Miller > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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The marriage took place in Remering in 1816. It is a French civil record. The Schwertzlers were catholic so I assume Marianne Schwartz was also catholic. I found records at the Family History Center. Curt -------------- Original message -------------- From: Gloria Ishida <gfb-ishida@gol.com> > > Curt, > > Another suggestion: > > As you have suggested, Oberkischif may have been absorbed into > Frankenthal or another town. Or the name of the village may be of a > local dialect or the original writing may have been mistranscribed. > > Is the marriage certificate you have a religious one? If so, does it > name the church? Is it signed by the pastor/priest? This could give you > a major clue for further search. > > Gloria > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message