In a message dated June 28, 2008 5:36 PM Mgcom@aol.com wrote: << Looking for advice on how to get a copy of an 1831 Moselle, Lorraine visa. The emigrant from Brouviller went to the Michigan Territory in 1831. >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hi Mary, The passports applications and all others archives of Moselle (région Lorraine) are kept by: Archives Départementales de la Moselle 1, allée du Château F-57070 Saint-Julien-lès-Metz For more information see at: http://www.archives57.com/frontSite?controller=ViewPage&id=archives Ewald
Is Charbonnet possible given phonetics, pronunciation, and/or "speed writing"? Gloria I
Checked the online phonebook for all of France and found no hits on Sherbenant/Sherbinant/Cherbinant/Cherbinent so likely this was a phonetic spelling of your ancestor's name by the port official. As for his Alsace-Lorraine heritage that is highly likely given the transitional nature of that part of France/Germany during the 1840-1880 timeframe. Part of my wife's family left Lorraine during the Franco-Prussian war of 1870-1871. You might be able to localize the area your g-grandfather came from by noting from maps which areas changed nationality in those eras - his town was part of France in 1846 but part of Germany in 1871 - see the following for a map of the areas of German conquest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsace-Lorraine Rikard Hill -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ernie.olson@comcast.net Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:10 AM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: [A-L] Your opinions please I would appreciate any comments any of you may have on the following: My great grandfather was born 4 April 1846 in France. He was a Weslyan Methodist. He migrated to Canada sometime before 1866. His name is listed in two lower Ontario census as Joseph SHERBINANT and Joseph SHERBENANT. Is that a common French name or do you think that this might be a compromise as a result of an English-speaking port offical from maybe CHARBONEAU/CHERBONNEAX/CHERBONEAUX or something like that? Secondly, in an 1871 Ontario census he lists himself as ethnic French but gives his birth place as Germany (his death certificate says he was born in France). Would this suggest that he might be from Alsace-Lorraine? I have been searching for over twenty years and am stuck here. Would really appreciate any comments on the above, suggestion where to search or any other thoughts any of you may have. Thank you so very much, Ernie -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Cathy: The two web sites below make converting Republican Calendar date easy. _http://www.napoleon.org/en/essential_napoleon/calendar/index.asp_ (http://www.napoleon.org/en/essential_napoleon/calendar/index.asp) _http://din-timelines.com/calendar_converter.shtml_ (http://din-timelines.com/calendar_converter.shtml) In a message dated 7/4/2008 3:01:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com writes: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:37:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine DiPietro <cathode@embarqmail.com> Subject: Re: [A-L] Help with French Repulic Dates To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8474266.11390221215121024741.JavaMail.root@md04.embarq.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Many Thanks et Merci Beaucoup to all the wonderful folks who helped with the translation. I usually do pretty well but the double dates confused me and I did not wish to miss any information. I really appreciate the help and kindness. Thanks again. Cathy **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
I would appreciate any comments any of you may have on the following: My great grandfather was born 4 April 1846 in France. He was a Weslyan Methodist. He migrated to Canada sometime before 1866. His name is listed in two lower Ontario census as Joseph SHERBINANT and Joseph SHERBENANT. Is that a common French name or do you think that this might be a compromise as a result of an English-speaking port offical from maybe CHARBONEAU/CHERBONNEAX/CHERBONEAUX or something like that? Secondly, in an 1871 Ontario census he lists himself as ethnic French but gives his birth place as Germany (his death certificate says he was born in France). Would this suggest that he might be from Alsace-Lorraine? I have been searching for over twenty years and am stuck here. Would really appreciate any comments on the above, suggestion where to search or any other thoughts any of you may have. Thank you so very much, Ernie
Cindy (I hope you decided to stay on), I just can't understand why anyone could criticize your appeal; any bit of information one gives might be a clue to help in any of our searches. Don't give up because of one person's nastiness. I often go to geneanet.com; now the material there is put on by individuals so it is not comprehensive. One such was a listing of a Pierre Blochinger (le Jeune) married to Francoise Huber. Pierre's birth is given as 1784 but that is all for him; that in itself could be a clue that he emigrated. There is much more information on an only child listed: Marie Anne Blochinger born 1816 and death in 1898 in Algeria. She married Michel Schmitt. The town in the index gives Neewiller-near Lauterbourg, Bas Rhin, which is not a terribly great distance form Strasbourg. If the Pierre and Francesca who arrived in New Orleans in 1847 from with a grown son and grandchild are yours, these seem to be the same as above. This may not be yours as the arrival date is different I don't know if this is connected but it might be a signpost for you. Gloria Ishida
In a messade dated June 29, 2008 4:45 PM Arlene Amcwashere@aol.com wrote: << I wondered if someone was presently working on the Mulhouse films. I am trying to locate a birth record for GEORGES VONACHEN, who left Mulhouse to come to the States in 1867 at age 22. This would put his birth year around 1845, if the dates are correct on the immigration record. George is a common name in my ancestry, so I'm trying to place this Mulhouse George!...>> +++++++++++++ Arlène, Here is what a friend tells me about the VONACHENs born around 1845 in Mulhouse: Georges VONACHEN b. 1st Nov 1845 in Mulhouse Marguerite VONACHEN b. 4 Feb 1843 Madeleine VONACHEN b. 13 Feb 1844 Parents of the 3 above siblings: - father: Jean VONACHEN b. in Salembach/Salmbach (located in Bas-Rhin, Alsace, between Wissembourg and Lauterbourg) 30 years old at the birth of the above Georges VONACHEN - mother: Marie Marguerite BILLMANN, 33 years old at the birth of Georges Is there a connection to your great-grandfather Johann VON ACHEN born in 1826 at Niederroedern, 7 km south of Salmbach? There are also two other VONACHENs b. in Mulhouse: Emile VONACHEN b. 3 Aug 1850 and Marie-Eve VONACHEN b. 1st Dec 1847 It is necessary to verify if Emile and Marie-Eve are also the children of Jean VONACHEN and Marie Marguerite BILLMANN. Hope this helps Ewald
Catherine I use this web site to convert Republican Calendar dates. http://www.napoleon.org/en/essential_napoleon/calendar/index.asp Curt Miller -------------- Original message -------------- From: Catherine DiPietro <cathode@embarqmail.com> > Greetings Fellow Researchers, > > I have the 1826 mariage registre of my ggrandparents. > I need some help with a three French Republic dates. I > have roughly translated them but there seems to be more > numbers than needed and I'm confused. > > Here's a transcription, the ( .. ) are words I'm not sure > about. I've combined jpegs of the area into a word document > if anyone would like to see the original. > > George Ignace Bender garcon journalier age de vingt huit ans ne en la ville de > hagenau le vingt deux pluvoise en six de la Republique le dix fevrier dix sept > cent quartre vingt dix huit fils du defunte george bender (en son?) vivant > forestier decede en la vil de hagenau le vingt Neuf floriale on onse de la > Replublique Dix Neuf (May?) Dix huit cent trois et de la vivant Margarite Bader > conjoint ena (liue) les pere a mere d'impart: sage femme ena liue a Marie anne > Schmitt fille Majuer aged vingt trois ans ne en a lieu le Six thermidor an deux > de la Republique fille de la defunte Columba Schmitt en cette moment fille > domestique, decede en cette commune le quatarze Decembre dix huit cent dix sept > d'autrepart: > > I would deeply appreciate any help with this. > > My Thanks, > Cathy (Bender) DiPietro > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Ewald, You are amazing! I am going to have to put the puzzle pieces together! What is it they say...be careful of what you wish for!!! I do have a Jean VONACHEN, born in Salmbach in 1815 in my data base. However, I have him married to a Marguerite Liebman and forgot to record where I found his spouse, Marguerite. A very big genealogy mistake! His birth date seems to work with the birth of Georges, if he was 30 at the time of his birth. I have one child listed for Jean and Marguerite...Reine VONACHEN, (F) born in 1840. Perhaps Marguerite died and Jean remarried Marie Marguerite BILLMANN. Unfortunately, I have no date of death for Marguerite Liebman, just a birth date of 1811, All the other Jean VONACHENS, in my history, were born in the 1700s. If this is the same Jean VONACHEN, yes, he would be a second cousin to my great-grandfather, Johann Augustis VONACHEN, born in Niederroedern in 1826. How wonderful of you to remember the data on my great grandfather!!! Getting older is starting to strain my memory...most frustrating!!! What I probably need to find is a marriage record for Jean VONACHEN and Marie Marguerite BILLMANN. I wonder if they married in Mulhouse.... A multitude of thanks for all your assistance and for the knowledge you unselfishly afford our AL list. You are most kind and so giving. This is our Fourth Of July celebration weekend in the USA. We always enjoy celebrating this holiday. Many thanks again, Arlene Vonachen McCabe Charlotte, NC USA **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
Cathy, send me the original document in French and I'll translate it for you. Regards. Jean-Paul Marchal <jemarchal@wanadoo.fr> -----Message d'origine----- De : alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com]De la part de Catherine DiPietro Envoye : jeudi 3 juillet 2008 17:20 A : alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Objet : [A-L] Help with French Republique dates please Greetings Fellow Researchers, I have the 1826 mariage registre of my ggrandparents. I need some help with a three French Republic dates. I have roughly translated them but there seems to be more numbers than needed and I'm confused. Here's a transcription, the ( .. ) are words I'm not sure about. I've combined jpegs of the area into a word document if anyone would like to see the original. George Ignace Bender garcon journalier age de vingt huit ans ne en la ville de hagenau le vingt deux pluvoise en six de la Republique le dix fevrier dix sept cent quartre vingt dix huit fils du defunte george bender (en son?) vivant forestier decede en la vil de hagenau le vingt Neuf floriale on onse de la Replublique Dix Neuf (May?) Dix huit cent trois et de la vivant Margarite Bader conjoint ena (liue) les pere a mere d'impart: sage femme ena liue a Marie anne Schmitt fille Majuer aged vingt trois ans ne en a lieu le Six thermidor an deux de la Republique fille de la defunte Columba Schmitt en cette moment fille domestique, decede en cette commune le quatarze Decembre dix huit cent dix sept d'autrepart: I would deeply appreciate any help with this. My Thanks, Cathy (Bender) DiPietro -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte.
Sorry. Marie Anne is born 07/24/1794 ,I give the french wrighting..But the age of 23 can not be right, she's older than George!!! Nicole
Hello Cathy , Your translation is wright.You have so mutch dates because they given the birth days of the bride and groom and also the dates of the death of George father and Marie Anne mother. George Ignace Bender garçon journalier âgé de vingt huit ans né à Hagenau le vingt deux pluviose an six de la République (02/10/ 1798)fils du défunt George Bender en son vivant forestier décédé à Haguenau le vingt neuf floréal an onze de la République (05/19/1803)et de la vivante Marguerite Bader conjoint en ce lieu, les père et mère ,d'une part: sage femme en ce lieu et Marie Anne Schmitt fille majeure âgée de vingt trois ans, née en ce lieu le six thermidor an deux de la République( 07/24/1794) fille de la defunte Columba Schmitt, en cette moment domestique, décédée en cette commune le quatorze décembre dix huit cent dix sept ,d'autrepart:. BENDER George Ignace , daily labourer 28 years old, born the 02/10/1798 at Haguenau ,son of the deceased BENDER George forester in one's lifetime, died 05/19/1803 ( May is right)at Haguenau and his living wife BADERMarguerite,mid-wife here and SCHMITT Marie Anne , major of age,23 years old, servant.born here 24/07/1794 daughter of the deceased Columba SCHMITT did in Haguenau 12/14/1817 I hope this help you Best regards from France Nicole
Dear Cathy, These old ACTES are always a delight to read ! This one is a little mixed up in its order, but her are my suggestions (in capital Letters) for what it may say: George Ignace Bender garcon journalier age de vingt huit ans ne en la ville de hagenau le vingt deux pluvoise en six de la Republique le dix fevrier dix sept cent quartre vingt dix huit fils du defunte george bender en son vivant forestier decede en la vil de hagenau le vingt Neuf floriale on onse de la Replublique Dix Neuf (May?) Dix huit cent trois et de la vivant Margarite Bader conjoint en CE LIEU les pere ET mere d''UN part: sage femme en CE LIEU a Marie anne Schmitt fille MajEUr age dE vingt trois ans ne en a lieu le Six thermidor an deux de la Republique fille de la defunte Columba Schmitt en cette moment fille domestique, decede en cette commune le quatOrze Decembre dix huit cent dix sept d'autre part: George Ignace BENDER, single, journeyman, 28, born in the town of Hagenau on 22 Pluviose Year VI of the French Republic 10 February 1798, son of the late George BENDER who was a forester (who) died in the town of Hagenau on 29 Florial Year XI of the Republic, 19 May 1803, and of the still-living Margerite BADER his wife, his parents on the one hand, midwife of this town; to Marie Anne SCHMITT adult daughter aged 23 born in this place 6 Thermidor Year II of the Republic daughter of the late Columba SCHMITT presently a domestic servant, who died in this town 14 December 1817 on the other hand (I presume Marie Anne is the domestic servant, not her dead mother!) After giving the dates in the Republican calendar, it repeats them in the normal calendar. Regards, Angela -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Catherine DiPietro Sent: jeudi 3 juillet 2008 17:20 To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: [A-L] Help with French Republique dates please Greetings Fellow Researchers, I have the 1826 mariage registre of my ggrandparents. I need some help with a three French Republic dates. I have roughly translated them but there seems to be more numbers than needed and I'm confused. Here's a transcription, the ( .. ) are words I'm not sure about. I've combined jpegs of the area into a word document if anyone would like to see the original. George Ignace Bender garcon journalier age de vingt huit ans ne en la ville de hagenau le vingt deux pluvoise en six de la Republique le dix fevrier dix sept cent quartre vingt dix huit fils du defunte george bender (en son?) vivant forestier decede en la vil de hagenau le vingt Neuf floriale on onse de la Replublique Dix Neuf (May?) Dix huit cent trois et de la vivant Margarite Bader conjoint ena (liue) les pere a mere d'impart: sage femme ena liue a Marie anne Schmitt fille Majuer aged vingt trois ans ne en a lieu le Six thermidor an deux de la Republique fille de la defunte Columba Schmitt en cette moment fille domestique, decede en cette commune le quatarze Decembre dix huit cent dix sept d'autrepart: I would deeply appreciate any help with this. My Thanks, Cathy (Bender) DiPietro -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1392 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 3:51 PM
Many Thanks et Merci Beaucoup to all the wonderful folks who helped with the translation. I usually do pretty well but the double dates confused me and I did not wish to miss any information. I really appreciate the help and kindness. Thanks again. Cathy
Let me add my apology to Cindy, on behalf of the un-named person who chastised her -- apparently off-list. She has no need to apologize to any of us. I only hope she's stuck around long enough to read the support she has. I moderate another mailing list and what I see from the experience is that, for some, "A little knowledge is dangerous." I also know that a turtle never makes progress unless it stick its neck out. (We're all turtles here.) So, Cindy, keep sticking your neck out and asking questions. Bear in mind, "There are no dumb questions, only dumb answers." Those who belittle you for asking are showing their own ignorance and mean spirits. As to the substance of your query: I'm not so sure that Strassburg & Strasbourg aren't the same place. One is a Germanic spelling, the other French; which applies depends entirely on which era we're talking about. I'm only familiar with one place of that name, the capital and principal city of Alsace, in the department of Bas-Rhin. (Are there other Strassburgs or Strasbourgs? Maybe.) According to Wikipedia (probably more than you want to know): The city's Gallicized name is of Germanic origin and means "town (at the crossing) of roads". The modern Stras- is cognate to the German Straße / Strasse which itself is derived from Latin strata ("street"), while -bourg is cognate to the German -burg ("fortress, town, citadel"), the English borough and the French bourg ("village"). There may be New Orleans ship's passenger lists (perhaps accessible at Ancestry.com or elsewhere) containing information which could lead you to the family home in Europe. If not online at Ancestry, they would be at NARA (National Archives & Records Administration). Failing a more precise location in the passenger lists, you might try http://www.geopatronyme.com/, a French website that allows you to search for births to Blochinger families from 1891 through 1990. The surname seems sufficiently unusual that a cluster of Blochinger births in Bas-Rhin might indicate the ancestral home. (I would discount clusters in Paris or surrounding departments; these could be the result of migration since 1842.) I hope this little bit is helpful. -rt_/)
Greetings Fellow Researchers, I have the 1826 mariage registre of my ggrandparents. I need some help with a three French Republic dates. I have roughly translated them but there seems to be more numbers than needed and I'm confused. Here's a transcription, the ( .. ) are words I'm not sure about. I've combined jpegs of the area into a word document if anyone would like to see the original. George Ignace Bender garcon journalier age de vingt huit ans ne en la ville de hagenau le vingt deux pluvoise en six de la Republique le dix fevrier dix sept cent quartre vingt dix huit fils du defunte george bender (en son?) vivant forestier decede en la vil de hagenau le vingt Neuf floriale on onse de la Replublique Dix Neuf (May?) Dix huit cent trois et de la vivant Margarite Bader conjoint ena (liue) les pere a mere d'impart: sage femme ena liue a Marie anne Schmitt fille Majuer aged vingt trois ans ne en a lieu le Six thermidor an deux de la Republique fille de la defunte Columba Schmitt en cette moment fille domestique, decede en cette commune le quatarze Decembre dix huit cent dix sept d'autrepart: I would deeply appreciate any help with this. My Thanks, Cathy (Bender) DiPietro
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I think that is terrible that someone or some people would make you feel that you are "dumb". We all are trying to find our lost relatives and many of us struggle over and over to find them. Don't give up because of a few petty minds. I have not e-mail many on the Alsace-Lorraine site but do look at what others have to say. Right now I am struggling in trying to find the ship that my great grandfather came over on but so far have come up with a empty answer. -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Freemyer, Cindy Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:19 AM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] Blochinger Inquiry--Apology I deeply apologize to any and all that I may have offended in quoting the only information I have that is documented about my relative below. I have not had the luxury of traveling overseas and trusted the information as recorded about "Strasburg" was correct. My intent was honorable and sincerely meant to seek help and "direction" from this group that I see so much activity from. Unfortunately, it took me many weeks to find the courage to ask my question for fear that I would appear "dumb" and my fear was confirmed. I will no longer be on the list and again I am sorry for any offense. For those that felt the need to chastise me, I think I now understand (at least as far as I can tell from the vast information on the internet) that Strasburg and Strasbourg are not the same??? My family came from the Alsace-Lorraine region...that is really all I know for sure as the family is not united on their country of origin. I will try to solve the mysteries on my own. Good day to all, Cfree Cindy Freemyer From: Freemyer, Cindy Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:43 PM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Blochinger Inquiry My great-great-great-great Grandfather Pierre Blochinger "(born approximately 1783 near the town of Strasburg, then France (now Germany)) traveled to the USA with his wife and some of his children and their families in 1842." They entered the US through New Orleans. However, I have been unsuccessful in determining any other information about him and the family prior to leaving France. If anyone has any knowledge of the Blochinger (Blockinger) family and can point me in a new direction, I would be most appreciative! Thanks. Cfree Cindy Freemyer -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3236 (20080702) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3236 (20080702) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
From what I understand by this post, a genuine question about someone's ancestry was asked.? I would hope none of us would react negatively toward anyone searching for answers of their family's past.? I have been subscribed to this site for 2-3 years and besides the rare soliciting of business or off topic posts, this site has been a tremendous incite to my family heritage research.? If someone privately emailed an inappropriate response please know it has no reflection on this site as a whole.? This is a wonderful group.? Quick to help etc.... Take care, Cindy-California -----Original Message----- From: Valorie Zimmerman <valoriez@zimres.net> To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 1:30 pm Subject: Re: [A-L] Blochinger Inquiry--Apology On Wednesday 02 July 2008 8:19:12 am Freemyer, Cindy wrote: > I deeply apologize to any and all that I may have offended in quoting the > only information I have that is documented about my relative below. I have > not had the luxury of traveling overseas and trusted the information as > recorded about "Strasburg" was correct. My intent was honorable and > sincerely meant to seek help and "direction" from this group that I see so > much activity from. I've searched the list archives, and don't see a response to your original query, Cindy. Did someone write you a nasty private reply? If so, please disregard them. This is a great list, and you'll find the experts here -- *helpful* experts. > Unfortunately, it took me many weeks to find the courage to ask my question > for fear that I would appear "dumb" and my fear was confirmed. I will no > longer be on the list and again I am sorry for any offense. For those > that felt the need to chastise me, I think I now understand (at least as > far as I can tell from the vast information on the internet) that Strasburg > and Strasbourg are not the same??? My family came from the Alsace-Lorraine > region...that is really all I know for sure as the family is not united on > their country of origin. I will try to solve the mysteries on my own. As in the rest of genealogy, you have to be flexible in the spellings of towns, cities, even regions, because they have changed over time, and especially have been mis-spelled here in the US. The "dumb" ones, literally, do not ask questions. By posting, you have proven you aren't dumb, LOL! For all European research, you must have a village name, or at least a small region with a few villages, because that is where all the records are kept! There are few to no departement, county or region-wide censuses or other general surveys such as our US Census records. So, you must do your American or Canadian research, before trying to "jump the pond" back to Europe. I have lots of ideas of where to find that information here: http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/02/european-research.html Most of this information has come from the researchers on this list. For more specific information about the Alsace, see: http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/alsace.html I hope that this information is helpful to you. Valorie <----- also functioning as the list administrator -- please write to Alsace-Lorraine-admin@rootsweb.com if you are having any list problems ::snip old:: -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dorothy: You're"right on". Great message. Ernie -------------- Original message -------------- From: dorothy baker <dedor7020@yahoo.com> > Please don't feel the need to disassociate yourself from this list. From what I > have found, on the many lists I am on, there are always a few that consider > themselves "more intelligent", and have no problem with making someone feel > "little" because they do not know as much. As far as I am concerned these > people are "little", and "rude" -- just ignore them. The vast majority on the > list will be more than willing to help. > Dorothy > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Freemyer, Cindy wrote: > > From: Freemyer, Cindy > Subject: Re: [A-L] Blochinger Inquiry--Apology > To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:19 AM > > I deeply apologize to any and all that I may have offended in quoting the only > information I have that is documented about my relative below. I have not had > the luxury of traveling overseas and trusted the information as recorded about > "Strasburg" was correct. My intent was honorable and sincerely > meant to seek help and "direction" from this group that I see so much > activity from. > > > > Unfortunately, it took me many weeks to find the courage to ask my question for > fear that I would appear "dumb" and my fear was confirmed. I will no > longer be on the list and again I am sorry for any offense. For those that > felt the need to chastise me, I think I now understand (at least as far as I > can tell from the vast information on the internet) that Strasburg and > Strasbourg are not the same??? My family came from the Alsace-Lorraine > region...that is really all I know for sure as the family is not united on > their country of origin. I will try to solve the mysteries on my own. > > > > Good day to all, > > > > Cfree > > Cindy Freemyer > > > > From: Freemyer, Cindy > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:43 PM > To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > Subject: Blochinger Inquiry > > > > My great-great-great-great Grandfather Pierre Blochinger "(born > approximately 1783 near the town of Strasburg, then France (now Germany)) > traveled to the USA with his wife and some of his children and their families > in 1842." They entered the US through New Orleans. However, I have been > unsuccessful in determining any other information about him and the family > prior to leaving France. If anyone has any knowledge of the Blochinger > (Blockinger) family and can point me in a new direction, I would be most > appreciative! Thanks. > > > > Cfree > > Cindy Freemyer > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message