Hello Rachelle, Sharon, and listers, I am not aware of any medal given to Franco-Prussian war soldiers. These fought for France indeed, but France was defeated. It was the end of the Second Empire and Alsace and Moselle became German. As to your ancestor, Rachelle, the first thing to know is his place of origin, especially for a quite common surname like Spielmann Sharon: the Ste Helene medal was given to soldiers still alive in 1857. However I doubt that they were able to traceall those who emigrated to America or elsewhere. Etienen > Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:02:19 -0400 > From: "shell" <bohinski@bright.net> > > I am curious about the medals given to the soldiers. What about in > the Franco-Prussian War? > Did those soldiers receive any medals and is there any website to > check for them? This would > have been fighting for Napoleon the 3rd. Thanks for any help. > Trying to find any records of my > great-grandfather, Frank Spielman from Alsace-Lorraine France. Is > there anywhere to write > for info? Was Catholic. And when he would drink to much he would > put on his uniform and > remember the war. > Rachelle Wildermuth-Bohinski > Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:06:07 -0400 > From: Sharon Centanne <centans@tampabay.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [A-L] Re. Napoleon > > Thank you for this informatin Etienne. I went to the site, but my > ancestor's surname gave no results. > I do know from family history that Jacob Schirck of Muttersholtz, > Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France fought > for Napoleon I as a cook in his army. However, Jacob and his family > emigrated to America in 1834. > Did only those who were still in France receive the medal? > > Thank you! > Sharon Centanne > Third great granddaughter of Jacob Schirck of Muttersholtz > http://home.tampabay.rr.com/centans/schirck.html > > Etienne Herrbach wrote: >> all soldiers of Napoleonic wars who were still alive in 1857 were >> given the "Medaille de Ste Helene" by Napoleon the IIIrd. See: <http://www.stehelene.org >> >, >> then "recherche" or "recherche avancee". >> Etienne

Wow, considering the astronomical death toll among Napoleon's soldiers in Russia, that was one lucky/ amazing man! Too bad he didn't leave a diary or journal. Nancy ------- I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. --Daniel Boone On Jul 16, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Christina Wilson wrote: > A while back, I attended a genealogy seminar. The lecturer > mentioned that a group of French (Napoleonic) soldiers had settled > together in Ohio in the 1820s. My 3G great grandfather (Michael A. > Nippert) settled in Ohio in the 1820s and family stories said he > and his brothers served in Russia under Napoleon. I have found > proof of military service for one brother--he stayed in Alsace. > > When I chatted with the lecturer afterwards, he didn't have much > more information: just a couple of books in French. > > Does anyone have any information or better yet, know a website or > book, (preferably in English or German) about this *colony*! > > Christina > > > > > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE- > LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Etienne, I wonder if the Frnech government would issue one posthumously for an ancestor that was missed. In 1857, Jacob Schirck was living in Warren, Pennsylvania. I do have copies of his discharge papers that were scanned and sent to me by a cousin. Sharon Etienne Herrbach wrote: >Hello Rachelle, Sharon, and listers, > >I am not aware of any medal given to Franco-Prussian war soldiers. >These fought for France indeed, but France was defeated. It was the >end of the Second Empire and Alsace and Moselle became German. > >As to your ancestor, Rachelle, the first thing to know is his place of >origin, especially for a quite common surname like Spielmann > >Sharon: the Ste Helene medal was given to soldiers still alive in >1857. However I doubt that they were able to traceall those who >emigrated to America or elsewhere. > >Etienen > > > > > >>Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:02:19 -0400 >>From: "shell" <bohinski@bright.net> >> >>I am curious about the medals given to the soldiers. What about in >>the Franco-Prussian War? >>Did those soldiers receive any medals and is there any website to >>check for them? This would >>have been fighting for Napoleon the 3rd. Thanks for any help. >>Trying to find any records of my >>great-grandfather, Frank Spielman from Alsace-Lorraine France. Is >>there anywhere to write >>for info? Was Catholic. And when he would drink to much he would >>put on his uniform and >>remember the war. >>Rachelle Wildermuth-Bohinski >> >> > > > > >>Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:06:07 -0400 >>From: Sharon Centanne <centans@tampabay.rr.com> >>Subject: Re: [A-L] Re. Napoleon >> >>Thank you for this informatin Etienne. I went to the site, but my >>ancestor's surname gave no results. >>I do know from family history that Jacob Schirck of Muttersholtz, >>Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France fought >>for Napoleon I as a cook in his army. However, Jacob and his family >>emigrated to America in 1834. >>Did only those who were still in France receive the medal? >> >>Thank you! >>Sharon Centanne >>Third great granddaughter of Jacob Schirck of Muttersholtz >>http://home.tampabay.rr.com/centans/schirck.html >> >>Etienne Herrbach wrote: >> >> >>>all soldiers of Napoleonic wars who were still alive in 1857 were >>>given the "Medaille de Ste Helene" by Napoleon the IIIrd. See: <http://www.stehelene.org >>> >>> >>>>, >>>> >>>> >>>then "recherche" or "recherche avancee". >>>Etienne >>> >>> > > > >

A while back, I attended a genealogy seminar. The lecturer mentioned that a group of French (Napoleonic) soldiers had settled together in Ohio in the 1820s. My 3G great grandfather (Michael A. Nippert) settled in Ohio in the 1820s and family stories said he and his brothers served in Russia under Napoleon. I have found proof of military service for one brother--he stayed in Alsace. When I chatted with the lecturer afterwards, he didn't have much more information: just a couple of books in French. Does anyone have any information or better yet, know a website or book, (preferably in English or German) about this *colony*! Christina

Thank you for this informatin Etienne. I went to the site, but my ancestor's surname gave no results. I do know from family history that Jacob Schirck of Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France fought for Napoleon I as a cook in his army. However, Jacob and his family emigrated to America in 1834. Did only those who were still in France receive the medal? Thank you! Sharon Centanne Third great granddaughter of Jacob Schirck of Muttersholtz http://home.tampabay.rr.com/centans/schirck.html Etienne Herrbach wrote: >Hello listers, > >all soldiers of Napoleonic wars who were still alive in 1857 were >given the "Medaille de Ste Helene" by Napoleon the IIIrd. See: <http://www.stehelene.org > >, then "recherche" or "recherche avancee". > >Etienne > > > >Le 15 juil. 08 à 09:00, alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com a écrit : > > > >>Message: 1 >>Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:20:32 -0400 >>From: "Anthony & Ruth" <pinky@bscn.com> >>Subject: Re: [A-L] Re. Mulhouse Records >> >>I am looking for information on how to find information on Napolean >>Bonaparte, rumor has it that my GG Grandfather may have served under >>him in >>some leadership role during the war, his name was John George Fray >>and I >>have not found any information about this, thank you all so much for >>any >>information, George Fray >> >> > > >

Charlie: Would you please look in the list of the 1752, 1815 Les Militaries de 1792-1815 for the name of Josef Deichler. My grandfather, Josef Deichler, who was married to Margaret Spingler came to the United States in 1892. Supposedly he had been in the military service. Also his father, Josef Deichler, May have beeen in the military service. I would appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks. Marie (Deichler) Pearce). -- ____________________________________________________________ Enter for Your Chance to WIN* The TotalBeauty.com Summer Spa Sweepstakes! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UfhVJAccboM5OUJ3FzBCxSKVRdygAn9IXkguQWV6eyrXNV/

Hello listers, all soldiers of Napoleonic wars who were still alive in 1857 were given the "Medaille de Ste Helene" by Napoleon the IIIrd. See: <http://www.stehelene.org >, then "recherche" or "recherche avancee". Etienne Le 15 juil. 08 à 09:00, alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com a écrit : > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:20:32 -0400 > From: "Anthony & Ruth" <pinky@bscn.com> > Subject: Re: [A-L] Re. Mulhouse Records > > I am looking for information on how to find information on Napolean > Bonaparte, rumor has it that my GG Grandfather may have served under > him in > some leadership role during the war, his name was John George Fray > and I > have not found any information about this, thank you all so much for > any > information, George Fray

Is anyone interested in the Gremminger family on line? I would like to share info on the line that came to Ohio around 1835 to 1850 and then to Wisconsin. Rollie Richards >lonnyrol@earthlink.net<

I am curious about the medals given to the soldiers. What about in the Franco-Prussian War? Did those soldiers receive any medals and is there any website to check for them? This would have been fighting for Napoleon the 3rd. Thanks for any help. Trying to find any records of my great-grandfather, Frank Spielman from Alsace-Lorraine France. Is there anywhere to write for info? Was Catholic. And when he would drink to much he would put on his uniform and remember the war. Rachelle Wildermuth-Bohinski

I am looking for any information about Valentine "Fritz" Adolph, born Feb. 28, 1862 in Alsace-Lorraine, France. Valentine immigrated to the United States in 1872. Mother was Elizabeth Snell (maiden name) Father, Valentine born 1826. Alsace-Lorraine, France. Some said they lived in Artolsheim. We don't have anything written (for sure) until they came to America in 1872. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Karen Adolph

Charlie: Would you please look in the list of the 1752, 1815 Les Militaries de 1792-1815 for the name of Jean Heitz. He is said to have died in 1806 and I think he might have been killed or died in the militayr service. I would appreciate any help you can give me. He was my great great great grandffather. Thanks. Edward C Heitz, Missouri, USA

One of my relatives served under Napoleon by the name of Filliaux. If you find information as to who served under Napoleon, I would also be interested. -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anthony & Ruth Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:21 PM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] Re. Mulhouse Records I am looking for information on how to find information on Napolean Bonaparte, rumor has it that my GG Grandfather may have served under him in some leadership role during the war, his name was John George Fray and I have not found any information about this, thank you all so much for any information, George Fray This email transmission may contain CONFIDENTIAL, PRIVILEGED, and or PROTECTED INFORMATION intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by email, do not disseminate or copy and delete immediately.

I am looking for information on how to find information on Napolean Bonaparte, rumor has it that my GG Grandfather may have served under him in some leadership role during the war, his name was John George Fray and I have not found any information about this, thank you all so much for any information, George Fray ----- Original Message ----- From: "EWALD" <ewald.klein@gmail.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Re. Mulhouse Records In a messade dated June 29, 2008 4:45 PM Arlene Amcwashere@aol.com wrote: << I wondered if someone was presently working on the Mulhouse films. I am trying to locate a birth record for GEORGES VONACHEN, who left Mulhouse to come to the States in 1867 at age 22. This would put his birth year around 1845, if the dates are correct on the immigration record. George is a common name in my ancestry, so I'm trying to place this Mulhouse George!...>> +++++++++++++ Arlène, Here is what a friend tells me about the VONACHENs born around 1845 in Mulhouse: Georges VONACHEN b. 1st Nov 1845 in Mulhouse Marguerite VONACHEN b. 4 Feb 1843 Madeleine VONACHEN b. 13 Feb 1844 Parents of the 3 above siblings: - father: Jean VONACHEN b. in Salembach/Salmbach (located in Bas-Rhin, Alsace, between Wissembourg and Lauterbourg) 30 years old at the birth of the above Georges VONACHEN - mother: Marie Marguerite BILLMANN, 33 years old at the birth of Georges Is there a connection to your great-grandfather Johann VON ACHEN born in 1826 at Niederroedern, 7 km south of Salmbach? There are also two other VONACHENs b. in Mulhouse: Emile VONACHEN b. 3 Aug 1850 and Marie-Eve VONACHEN b. 1st Dec 1847 It is necessary to verify if Emile and Marie-Eve are also the children of Jean VONACHEN and Marie Marguerite BILLMANN. Hope this helps Ewald -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is anyone interested in the Gremminger family on line? I would like to share info on the line that came to Ohio around 1835 to 1850 and then to Wisconsin. Rollie Richards >lonnyrol@earthlink.net<

Charlie Thank you so kindly for your time and your response! Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie" <csherida@tampabay.rr.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] Les Militaires de 1792 - 1815 - Look-ups > Sorry Jeanne, > > This book only covers men who served in the Military and were alive when > the > survey was completed. > > I did check for those surname spellings but none were listed. > > Charlie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeanne Fizell" <jfizell@att.net> > To: "KathyW" <cwedyke@airadvantage.net>; <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:05 PM > Subject: Re: [A-L] Les Militaires de 1792 - 1815 - Look-ups > > >> Hi Charlie, >> If it is possible to look would you mind one more. I have not had any >> luck >> with >> Catherine Buettner/Bittner >> Thank you in advance for your consideration! >> Jeanne >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "KathyW" <cwedyke@airadvantage.net> >> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 2:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [A-L] Les Militaires de 1792 - 1815 - Look-ups >> >> >>> Hi Charlie, >>> >>> Are you still doing those lookups in your book? I just found the >>> following >>> email in my draft folder that I never sent and was wondering if you >>> could >>> still do a lookup for me if you still have your book? >>> >>> Thanks, Kathy >>> >>> >>> Hi Charlie, >>> >>> First thank you so much for doing this I sure appreciate your help. >>> >>> I was wonder if you could see if you can find any Morian's or a Jacob >>> Marsac >>> in your book. >>> >>> Thanks so much, >>> >>> Kathy Wedyke >>> Library Director >>> Deckerville Public Library >>> http://www.deckervillelibrary.com >>> http://www.deckervillemich.org >>> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mi/county/sanilac/ >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> -- >>>>> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >>>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without >>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG. >>>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1341 - Release Date: >>>> 3/24/2008 >>>> 3:03 PM >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry Jeanne, This book only covers men who served in the Military and were alive when the survey was completed. I did check for those surname spellings but none were listed. Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Fizell" <jfizell@att.net> To: "KathyW" <cwedyke@airadvantage.net>; <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Les Militaires de 1792 - 1815 - Look-ups > Hi Charlie, > If it is possible to look would you mind one more. I have not had any > luck > with > Catherine Buettner/Bittner > Thank you in advance for your consideration! > Jeanne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "KathyW" <cwedyke@airadvantage.net> > To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 2:18 PM > Subject: Re: [A-L] Les Militaires de 1792 - 1815 - Look-ups > > >> Hi Charlie, >> >> Are you still doing those lookups in your book? I just found the >> following >> email in my draft folder that I never sent and was wondering if you could >> still do a lookup for me if you still have your book? >> >> Thanks, Kathy >> >> >> Hi Charlie, >> >> First thank you so much for doing this I sure appreciate your help. >> >> I was wonder if you could see if you can find any Morian's or a Jacob >> Marsac >> in your book. >> >> Thanks so much, >> >> Kathy Wedyke >> Library Director >> Deckerville Public Library >> http://www.deckervillelibrary.com >> http://www.deckervillemich.org >> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mi/county/sanilac/ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> -- >>>> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> -- >>> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1341 - Release Date: >>> 3/24/2008 >>> 3:03 PM >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"if you could see if you can find any Morian's or a Jacob Marsac in your book." Sorry Kathy but he's not listed nor are any with this or the other surname you provided. Also remember this book only covers the years 1792-1815 and the person had to be alive when the "survey" was taken in the 1850s-1860s. It also only covers Bas-Rhin. Another book was completed by the same author but was not published by AGAWE. Charlie

Hi Charlie, Are you still doing those lookups in your book? I just found the following email in my draft folder that I never sent and was wondering if you could still do a lookup for me if you still have your book? Thanks, Kathy Hi Charlie, First thank you so much for doing this I sure appreciate your help. I was wonder if you could see if you can find any Morian's or a Jacob Marsac in your book. Thanks so much, Kathy Wedyke Library Director Deckerville Public Library http://www.deckervillelibrary.com http://www.deckervillemich.org http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mi/county/sanilac/ ----- Original Message ----- >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1341 - Release Date: 3/24/2008 > 3:03 PM > >

Hi Charlie, If it is possible to look would you mind one more. I have not had any luck with Catherine Buettner/Bittner Thank you in advance for your consideration! Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "KathyW" <cwedyke@airadvantage.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Les Militaires de 1792 - 1815 - Look-ups > Hi Charlie, > > Are you still doing those lookups in your book? I just found the > following > email in my draft folder that I never sent and was wondering if you could > still do a lookup for me if you still have your book? > > Thanks, Kathy > > > Hi Charlie, > > First thank you so much for doing this I sure appreciate your help. > > I was wonder if you could see if you can find any Morian's or a Jacob > Marsac > in your book. > > Thanks so much, > > Kathy Wedyke > Library Director > Deckerville Public Library > http://www.deckervillelibrary.com > http://www.deckervillemich.org > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mi/county/sanilac/ > ----- Original Message ----- >> -- >>> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1341 - Release Date: >> 3/24/2008 >> 3:03 PM >> >> > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ernie, The name SHERBINANT / SHERBENANT is not a name known in Alsace-Lorraine, or elsewhere in France. It is a phonetic spelling of your ancestor's name, like FERDINAND (this name is a given name and also a surname). The Alsatian pronunciation of FERDINAND is very near the pronunciation of SHERBINANT. According to www.geopatronyme.com , the name FERDINAND was mostly present in: 1. Vosges, Lorraine (Martinvelle, Plainfaing, Godoncourt, Saint-Dié) 2. Moselle, Lorraine (Metz, Forbach, Yutz) 3. Bas-Rhin, Alsace(Haguenau, Strasbourg) 4. Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine (Nancy) between 1891-1915. Heve a nice Sunday Ewald ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ----- Original Message ----- From: <ernie.olson@comcast.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: [A-L] Your opinions please > I would appreciate any comments any of you may have on the following: > > My great grandfather was born 4 April 1846 in France. He was a Weslyan > Methodist. > He migrated to Canada sometime before 1866. > > His name is listed in two lower Ontario census as Joseph SHERBINANT and > Joseph SHERBENANT. Is that a common French name or do you think that > this might be a compromise as a result of an English-speaking port offical > from maybe CHARBONEAU/CHERBONNEAX/CHERBONEAUX or something like that? > > Secondly, in an 1871 Ontario census he lists himself as ethnic French but > gives his birth place as Germany (his death certificate says he was born > in France). Would this suggest that he might be from Alsace-Lorraine? > > I have been searching for over twenty years and am stuck here. > > Would really appreciate any comments on the above, suggestion where to > search or any other thoughts any of you may have. > > Thank you so very much, > Ernie > --