Hell Etienne, As to the old web pages, you could try Google's cached web pages. You might have some luck finding the missing pages there. You could also try the Wayback Machine at www.archive.org/web/web.php. If either of those do not help you, just Google "old web pages" and you will get a large number of choices for conducting a search for the pages you seek. Hope this helps! Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Etienne Herrbach To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 29 July, 2008 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] WWII Bas-Rhin Researching MIA-KIA ONLY Thank you Charlie for this information. I knew this book as it is consultable at the CDHF in Guebwiller, and also because is was accessible on the site of the town Hochfelden, Bas- Rhin. Unfortunately I just noticed that it has been removed from this site. Is there a website somewhere where "old" site contents have been saved? The soldiers listed in this book are called "Malgré-nous" (difficult to translate in English). It refers to the men from annexed Alsace and Moselle who were forced during WW2 by the Nazis to act as German soldiers against their will. Because the Nazis didn't trust them, they sent them mostly to the East front, where many of them died. Many came back after months or years of captivity in Russian camps, especially in Tambov. See <http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malgré-nous> and <http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tambov > (in French). As to "SP", I would suggest but without enthusiasm "secteur postal" = the localization of the regiment/company at the date of death/missing. What is KIA:MIA? Etienne PS Charlie: received your scans, thanks. Pretty difficult to read! > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:16:09 -0400 > From: "Charlie" <csherida@tampabay.rr.com> > > Hi, > > Thanks to a friend in France I just received the hard to acquire > oversized paper-bound 1948 - used 2 volume edition "Recueil > Photographique des Disparus du Bas-Rhin - Victimes de la > Conscription Allemande de 1942-1945". These volumes list over 6600 > Alsatians from Bas-Rhin who never returned home after WWII. I > believe that these men (and several women) were either KIA/MIA. > > Everything is written in French and German and these volumes are not > all inclusive as I know of a couple of cousins who were not included. > > The names are listed in alphabetical order and give birth dates and > villages and I believe the place where they died or went missing > along with a photo when available (over 90% have a photo most of > which are portrait). I estimate that 50% of those photos show the > man in uniform. Most appear to be soldiers although there are some > sailors. I can't tell if any were airmen. Also included in some of > the details for many of the men is a SP with a number (example: SP > 19402). Does anyone know the meaning of that code > > I'll do a look up for researchers seeking relatives from that time > period, and from BAS-RHIN Only. I'll need the name and birth > village. > > REMEMBER this is WWII and almost all the men were born in the 20th > century. > > Charlie > csherida@tampabay.r.com -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try the "Wayback Machine" at www.waybackmachine.org Marsha L. Ensminger --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Etienne Herrbach <etienne.herrbach@wanadoo.fr> wrote: snip: Is there a website somewhere where "old" site contents have been saved?

Thanks Etienne, Hope you enjoyed your vacation. "Is there a website somewhere where "old" site contents have been saved?" Sorry but I have no idea if there is such a site. MIA = Missing in Action KIA = Killed in Action These volumes were expensive but worth it. I've been attempting to acquire the volumes for about a year. I first viewed photo exhibits at the Hatten museum and a couple of years later and with the assistance of a cousin acquired copies of similar photos but just for Oberseebach. Last year I determined while looking at the death transcripts (some after 1948) that there were other soldiers from Oberseebach who were not listed in these volumes. Since then I've been able to obtain photos of all the Catholic men (26 of 27 are cousins). I'm still seeking photos for several more of the Protestants but never had the time to scan through their death transcripts to determine if others were missed. My next project will be an attempt to find other cousins listed in these volumes. A difficult task not having the names of their parents and grandparents but now a new project when I return to Alsace. I know at least 2 cousins who were captured and were POWs in Russian camps. One still lives in Oberroedern and the other still resides in Seebach. Take care. Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Etienne Herrbach" <etienne.herrbach@wanadoo.fr> The soldiers listed in this book are called "Malgré-nous" (difficult to translate in English). It refers to the men from annexed Alsace and Moselle who were forced during WW2 by the Nazis to act as German soldiers against their will. Because the Nazis didn't trust them, they sent them mostly to the East front, where many of them died. Many came back after months or years of captivity in Russian camps, especially in Tambov.

As one Charlie to another would you mind checking to see if there are any HOLTZBACHs from Strasbourg in your book. Thank you. Charlie Holtzbach - Candler, NC On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:16 AM, Charlie <csherida@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks to a friend in France I just received the hard to acquire oversized > paper-bound 1948 - used 2 volume edition "Recueil Photographique des > Disparus du Bas-Rhin - Victimes de la Conscription Allemande de 1942-1945". > These volumes list over 6600 Alsatians from Bas-Rhin who never returned > home after WWII. I believe that these men (and several women) were either > KIA/MIA. > > Everything is written in French and German and these volumes are not all > inclusive as I know of a couple of cousins who were not included. > > The names are listed in alphabetical order and give birth dates and > villages and I believe the place where they died or went missing along with > a photo when available (over 90% have a photo most of which are portrait). > I estimate that 50% of those photos show the man in uniform. Most appear > to be soldiers although there are some sailors. I can't tell if any were > airmen. Also included in some of the details for many of the men is a SP > with a number (example: SP 19402). Does anyone know the meaning of that > code > > I'll do a look up for researchers seeking relatives from that time period, > and from BAS-RHIN Only. I'll need the name and birth village. > > REMEMBER this is WWII and almost all the men were born in the 20th century. > > Charlie > csherida@tampabay.r.com > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Evalorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Giliane. Only one BADER - Jean Pierre, 21 Jan 1923 - Ste Marie-aux-Mines - Strasbourg - SP MH 53433 SF 190 MPHA Vienne-Fiume Connect? Take care. Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giliane Bader-Wechseler" <gbw1@comcast.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] WWII Bas-Rhin Researching MIA-KIA ONLY > Hi Charlie, > > If I remember correctly, SP means "secteur postal" for military mail. It > therefore may give the location of their unit. A little like APO here. > > When you have a chance, let me know if there is any Bader from Epfig. I > heard that the branch is disappearing :( That may be one of the > reasons... > > Best, > > - Giliane > -----Original Message----- > From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charlie > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:16 AM > To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@root > Subject: [A-L] WWII Bas-Rhin Researching MIA-KIA ONLY > > Hi, > > Thanks to a friend in France I just received the hard to acquire oversized > paper-bound 1948 - used 2 volume edition "Recueil Photographique des > Disparus du Bas-Rhin - Victimes de la Conscription Allemande de > 1942-1945". > These volumes list over 6600 Alsatians from Bas-Rhin who never returned > home > after WWII. I believe that these men (and several women) were either > KIA/MIA. > > Everything is written in French and German and these volumes are not all > inclusive as I know of a couple of cousins who were not included. > > The names are listed in alphabetical order and give birth dates and > villages > and I believe the place where they died or went missing along with a photo > when available (over 90% have a photo most of which are portrait). I > estimate that 50% of those photos show the man in uniform. Most appear to > be soldiers although there are some sailors. I can't tell if any were > airmen. Also included in some of the details for many of the men is a SP > with a number (example: SP 19402). Does anyone know the meaning of that > code > > I'll do a look up for researchers seeking relatives from that time period, > and from BAS-RHIN Only. I'll need the name and birth village. > > REMEMBER this is WWII and almost all the men were born in the 20th > century. > > Charlie > csherida@tampabay.r.com > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 > 6:43 AM > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Charlie, If I remember correctly, SP means "secteur postal" for military mail. It therefore may give the location of their unit. A little like APO here. When you have a chance, let me know if there is any Bader from Epfig. I heard that the branch is disappearing :( That may be one of the reasons... Best, - Giliane -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:16 AM To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@root Subject: [A-L] WWII Bas-Rhin Researching MIA-KIA ONLY Hi, Thanks to a friend in France I just received the hard to acquire oversized paper-bound 1948 - used 2 volume edition "Recueil Photographique des Disparus du Bas-Rhin - Victimes de la Conscription Allemande de 1942-1945". These volumes list over 6600 Alsatians from Bas-Rhin who never returned home after WWII. I believe that these men (and several women) were either KIA/MIA. Everything is written in French and German and these volumes are not all inclusive as I know of a couple of cousins who were not included. The names are listed in alphabetical order and give birth dates and villages and I believe the place where they died or went missing along with a photo when available (over 90% have a photo most of which are portrait). I estimate that 50% of those photos show the man in uniform. Most appear to be soldiers although there are some sailors. I can't tell if any were airmen. Also included in some of the details for many of the men is a SP with a number (example: SP 19402). Does anyone know the meaning of that code I'll do a look up for researchers seeking relatives from that time period, and from BAS-RHIN Only. I'll need the name and birth village. REMEMBER this is WWII and almost all the men were born in the 20th century. Charlie csherida@tampabay.r.com -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM

Hi, Thanks to a friend in France I just received the hard to acquire oversized paper-bound 1948 - used 2 volume edition "Recueil Photographique des Disparus du Bas-Rhin - Victimes de la Conscription Allemande de 1942-1945". These volumes list over 6600 Alsatians from Bas-Rhin who never returned home after WWII. I believe that these men (and several women) were either KIA/MIA. Everything is written in French and German and these volumes are not all inclusive as I know of a couple of cousins who were not included. The names are listed in alphabetical order and give birth dates and villages and I believe the place where they died or went missing along with a photo when available (over 90% have a photo most of which are portrait). I estimate that 50% of those photos show the man in uniform. Most appear to be soldiers although there are some sailors. I can't tell if any were airmen. Also included in some of the details for many of the men is a SP with a number (example: SP 19402). Does anyone know the meaning of that code I'll do a look up for researchers seeking relatives from that time period, and from BAS-RHIN Only. I'll need the name and birth village. REMEMBER this is WWII and almost all the men were born in the 20th century. Charlie csherida@tampabay.r.com

Jonas, About Lengelsheim & Gendersberg & Hanviller http://www.ot-paysdebitche.com/zip/sorties_educatives.zip This file includes a map "Carte Pays de Bitche.pdf" on witch Lengelsheim & Gendersberg & Hanviller are located in "B5" More documentation about Pays de Bitche (in french only) Guide du Pays de Bitche http://www.ot-paysdebitche.com/fra/documentations.php Best regards from Alsace Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Brown" <b.jonas24@yahoo.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] GROSS in Lengelsheim & Gendersberg Dianne, Thank you so much! I am so excited you found Andre Sr., 2nd wife and all! I wonder where his first marriage took place if not in Lengelsheim? Perhaps Gendersberg itself? It's a mystery. (I need to look at a map as I'm not familiar with these towns or the surrounding area yet.) The son Bernhard & his family moved around alot. That they were in Hanviller is new to me too, as is this son Jean. Would you happen to know if there are independant records for Gendersberg or if it fell under some other parish? Thanks again, Jonas -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cathy, Try contacting Hervé Dierstein <h.dierstein@newel.net> You can find his ancestry at http://www.genealogiethann.org/genealogie%20thann/ascendances/ascendance%20de%20herve%20dierstein.htm His earliest generations of Diersteins were from Amsoldingen, Switzerland. Robert Behra -----Original Message----- From: Catherine DiPietro <cathode@embarqmail.com> To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 6:03 am Subject: [A-L] DIERSTEIN of Fessenheim (68) Greetings, I descend from: Joannes Michael DIERSTEIN, born in Fessenheim,Haut Rhin arried in Fessenheim on 27 Feb 1713 to atharina GRöMINGER/GREMINGER on 27 Feb 1713, nown children, all baptised in Fessenheim: Maria Anna bp. 13 Apr 1714 lara Anna bp. 10 Apr 1717 olumba bp. 7 Mar 1725, married Andreas SCHMITT (my line) Is there anyone else working on this family or ho might have further information? Thanking you in advance, athy DiPietro Bonjour, e cherche le famille de Johannes Michael DIERSTEIN u Catherina GRÖMINGER/GREMINGER mariés 27 Feb 1713 ans Fessenheim, dept. Ensisheim, canton Colmar, aut Rhin. J'attends avec impatience toutes informations oncernant le couple. Je vous en remercie par avance. ien Cordialement, atherine -- esources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: ttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Greetings, I descend from: Joannes Michael DIERSTEIN, born in Fessenheim,Haut Rhin married in Fessenheim on 27 Feb 1713 to Catharina GRöMINGER/GREMINGER on 27 Feb 1713, known children, all baptised in Fessenheim: Maria Anna bp. 13 Apr 1714 Clara Anna bp. 10 Apr 1717 Columba bp. 7 Mar 1725, married Andreas SCHMITT (my line) Is there anyone else working on this family or who might have further information? Thanking you in advance, Cathy DiPietro Bonjour, Je cherche le famille de Johannes Michael DIERSTEIN ou Catherina GRÖMINGER/GREMINGER mariés 27 Feb 1713 dans Fessenheim, dept. Ensisheim, canton Colmar, Haut Rhin. J'attends avec impatience toutes informations concernant le couple. Je vous en remercie par avance. Bien Cordialement, Catherine

Dianne, Thank you so much! I am so excited you found Andre Sr., 2nd wife and all!  I wonder where his first marriage took place if not in Lengelsheim? Perhaps Gendersberg itself? It's a mystery. (I need to look at a map as I'm not familiar with these towns or the surrounding area yet.)  The son Bernhard & his family moved around alot. That they were in Hanviller is new to me too, as is this son Jean.  Would you happen to know if there are independant records for Gendersberg or if it fell under some other parish? Thanks again, Jonas

The 12.06.1759 date is for the marriage of Andre Gross to Marie Barbe Klein. This marriage occurred in Schorbach. Lengelsheim may refer to the birth place for Barbe Keller. Bernard Gross and Elise Zimmer lived in Hanviller, where they had a son, Jean, born 01.09.1758. (Norbert Schneider's book on Hanviller families). There is no mention of Bernard's parents. Dianne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianne Erickson" <wasieerick@milwpc.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] GROSS in Lengelsheim Andre Gross, born about 1697 in Gendersberg, married Barbe Keller, born in Lengelsheim, 12.06.1759 in Schorbach. One of their children was Andre. The father, Andre, married a second wife, Marie Barbe Klein, who was born 02.11.1722 in Lengelsheim. (Norbert Schneider and Pierrette Kirsch's book on the familes of Lengelsheim). I will try looking further into the other books I have for your family. Dianne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Brown" <b.jonas24@yahoo.com> To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:17 AM Subject: [A-L] GROSS in Lengelsheim Hello, I am trying to find information on Bernhard GROSS * 1720? oo 22.1.1742 in Trulben to Maria Elizabeth Zimmer *1726. The parents of Bernhard are Andreas GROSS & Barbara KELLER. I have been able to gather some records for his children, but cannot find Bernhard's birth record or anything further about his parents. His children were born in Hilst, Dorst, Liederschiedt, & Schorbach according to OSB Batschsentiwan. Also according to OSB Batschsentiwan, Bernhard Gross, farmer, from Langelsheim, Lothringen, emigrated in 1765. I could not find anything on such a place, but now realize that this should be Lengelsheim, which I think is near Schorbach. Bernhard had a brother Bartholomaus who was from Münchweiler, another possible place of origin for my own family. If anyone can help with my search for Bernhard and his parents, I would be most appreciative. Thank you, Jonas -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for any information on Joseph Charbonneau. Born 4 April 1846 in Alsance-Lorraine. Best I can figure he migrated to Canada about 1863. Any suggestions on where I can beginlooking in France most aprreciated. Thanks, Ernie

Andre Gross, born about 1697 in Gendersberg, married Barbe Keller, born in Lengelsheim, 12.06.1759 in Schorbach. One of their children was Andre. The father, Andre, married a second wife, Marie Barbe Klein, who was born 02.11.1722 in Lengelsheim. (Norbert Schneider and Pierrette Kirsch's book on the familes of Lengelsheim). I will try looking further into the other books I have for your family. Dianne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Brown" <b.jonas24@yahoo.com> To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:17 AM Subject: [A-L] GROSS in Lengelsheim Hello, I am trying to find information on Bernhard GROSS * 1720? oo 22.1.1742 in Trulben to Maria Elizabeth Zimmer *1726. The parents of Bernhard are Andreas GROSS & Barbara KELLER. I have been able to gather some records for his children, but cannot find Bernhard's birth record or anything further about his parents. His children were born in Hilst, Dorst, Liederschiedt, & Schorbach according to OSB Batschsentiwan. Also according to OSB Batschsentiwan, Bernhard Gross, farmer, from Langelsheim, Lothringen, emigrated in 1765. I could not find anything on such a place, but now realize that this should be Lengelsheim, which I think is near Schorbach. Bernhard had a brother Bartholomaus who was from Münchweiler, another possible place of origin for my own family. If anyone can help with my search for Bernhard and his parents, I would be most appreciative. Thank you, Jonas -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am trying to find information on Bernhard GROSS * 1720?  oo 22.1.1742 in Trulben to Maria Elizabeth Zimmer *1726. The parents of Bernhard are Andreas GROSS & Barbara KELLER. I have been able to gather some records for his children, but cannot find Bernhard's birth record or anything further about his parents.  His children were born in Hilst, Dorst, Liederschiedt, & Schorbach according to OSB Batschsentiwan. Also according to OSB Batschsentiwan, Bernhard Gross, farmer, from Langelsheim, Lothringen, emigrated in 1765. I could not find anything on such a place, but now realize that this should be Lengelsheim, which I think is near Schorbach. Bernhard had a brother Bartholomaus who was from Münchweiler, another possible place of origin for my own family.   If anyone can help with my search for Bernhard and his parents, I would be most appreciative. Thank you, Jonas

In researching my realtives from A-L I was told that a great many of the immigrants from there settled in western Ohio---Darke and Shelby counties. It might be worth trying to see if the area has any genealogical societies that can help. If not, write me back and I may be able to give you 1 or 2 E-mail addresses. Just a thought as I know how frustrating it can be. Happy hunting Mary Anne Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunshine49" <shengirl@verizon.net> To: <fmlyhntr@yahoo.com>; <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] Ohio and Napoleonic soldiers > Wow, considering the astronomical death toll among Napoleon's > soldiers in Russia, that was one lucky/ amazing man! Too bad he > didn't leave a diary or journal. > > Nancy > > ------- > I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. > > --Daniel Boone > > > > On Jul 16, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Christina Wilson wrote: > >> A while back, I attended a genealogy seminar. The lecturer >> mentioned that a group of French (Napoleonic) soldiers had settled >> together in Ohio in the 1820s. My 3G great grandfather (Michael A. >> Nippert) settled in Ohio in the 1820s and family stories said he >> and his brothers served in Russia under Napoleon. I have found >> proof of military service for one brother--he stayed in Alsace. >> >> When I chatted with the lecturer afterwards, he didn't have much >> more information: just a couple of books in French. >> >> Does anyone have any information or better yet, know a website or >> book, (preferably in English or German) about this *colony*! >> >> Christina >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE- >> LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1557 - Release Date: 7/17/2008 > 5:36 AM > >

Etienne, I have no clue where in Alsace-Lorraine, my great grandfather came from. We have no names of parents or siblings or grandparents. About 15 years after he came over Andres Spielman came over. He married my great Aunt, who would have been Frank Spielman's step-daughter. But then sometime their name was changed to Spellman. Can you give me any advice? Nothing on his obit or death certificate or in his naturalization either. Thanks Rachelle The village in Ohio he came to was Geyer, Ohio and most all the people from that village were from Rothbach and Wimmeneau

Hello Marie, According to the site http://www.geopatronyme.com/ the name DEICHLER was very rare in France between 1891-1915, only 4 births in two departements: - in Bas-Rhin (Alsace): in Bischheim and Schiltigheim - in Moselle (Lorraine): in Petite-Rosselle That's not too extensive to search them all. Ewald ++++++++++++++++++++++ From: "James E Pearce" <jimmariepearce@juno.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:50 PM Subject: [A-L] Josef Deichler - Alsace > Charlie: Would you please look in the list of the 1752, 1815 Les > Militaries de 1792-1815 for the name of Josef Deichler. > My grandfather, Josef Deichler, who was > married > to Margaret Spingler came to the United States in 1892. > Supposedly he had been in the military service. > Also his father, Josef Deichler, May have > beeen > in the military service. > I would appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks. > Marie (Deichler) Pearce). >

Christina, Try http://publications.ohiohistory.org/ohstemplate.cfm?action=toc&vol=28 Lutherans in Parry County. St. John's refers to the church I think. The "go to page 391" This may not be related to your question but gives a hint. But if this is not the county of your ancestor you might try Darke, Mercer and Morrow. see also The google for this says "It seems almost incredible to us today that one could come from France to ... Napoleon's soldiers among the settlers saw in the flat lands of Darke County a ..." http://www.jstor.org/pss/381432 A French Community in Ohio Wm. Marion Miller The French Review, Vol. 20, No. 1 (Oct., 1946), pp. 8-13 (article consists of 6 pages) But the article is for sale for 5 dollars if you would want to take a chance. Gloria I On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:24 PM, Christina Wilson wrote: > A while back, I attended a genealogy seminar. The lecturer mentioned > that a group of French (Napoleonic) soldiers had settled together in > Ohio in the 1820s. My 3G great grandfather (Michael A. Nippert) > settled in Ohio in the 1820s and family stories said he and his > brothers served in Russia under Napoleon. I have found proof of > military service for one brother--he stayed in Alsace. > > When I chatted with the lecturer afterwards, he didn't have much > more information: just a couple of books in French. > > Does anyone have any information or better yet, know a website or > book, (preferably in English or German) about this *colony*! > > Christina > > > > > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

On Wednesday 16 July 2008 5:24:09 am Christina Wilson wrote: > A while back, I attended a genealogy seminar. The lecturer mentioned that a > group of French (Napoleonic) soldiers had settled together in Ohio in the > 1820s. My 3G great grandfather (Michael A. Nippert) settled in Ohio in the > 1820s and family stories said he and his brothers served in Russia under > Napoleon. I have found proof of military service for one brother--he stayed > in Alsace. > > When I chatted with the lecturer afterwards, he didn't have much more > information: just a couple of books in French. > > Does anyone have any information or better yet, know a website or book, > (preferably in English or German) about this *colony*! > > Christina A quick google search brought this up: http://publications.ohiohistory.org/ohstemplate.cfm?action=detail&Page=0049283.html&StartPage=221&EndPage=288&volume=49&newtitle=Volume 49 Page 221 Sorry for the horrible URL! You will probably have to cut and paste it in pieces, or try this tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/6znr26 Valorie