I am related to the Delesse family and have a Suzanne DOB 1798-D 1881 married to Christopher Streiff. I have several other Delesse in my tree. Originated in Lorraine and settled in New York State. Feel free to search my family tree for connections at: http://gw4.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=matulich Let me know if we are related. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mouse" <stringbender30@hotmail.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Looking for ancestors.... > > Sorry, I not connected to any of those names. > > Jim> To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 > 18:06:03 -0400> From: pmal69@aol.com> Subject: [A-L] Looking for > ancestors....> > Surnames:? Thiery, Metz, Bles, Delese> All of the above > were my grgr and grgrgrgrandparents from Alsace Lorraine.> The names I > know of are George Thiery, DOB abt 1831 - married Anna M.> Ester Metz > married Philip Thiery immigrated to America around 1891.> Jean Pierre Bles > married Suzanne Delese DOB? 3 Nov 1839, their daughter Mary Bles DOB 1874, > immigrated thru Galveston Texas in 1881.> If anything is familiar to > anyone please contact me @ pmal69@aol.com.> Any help in finding records > for the above people will be greatly appreciated.> -- > Resources for > Alsace-Lorraine list members:> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the su! > bject and the body of the message > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, I've just created an Alsachat photos sub-gallery containing photos of present-day Sondersdorf. These photos were sent to me by Karine Blind, who's family lives in Sondersdorf. She still lives in a village nearby. Sondersdorf is located at the southern end of Alsace, near the Swiss border. It is the home of my great grandfather, Augustin (a.k.a. August, Auguste) Erbland and many of his ancestors. I've also added a copy of this birth record and his parents' marriage record to my regular Alsachat photo gallery at: http://alsachat.net/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=Mardon Mardon

Hello I am a descent of a Schang as well as Portier. Feel free to check my family tree at http://gw4.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=matulich Let me know if you have any matches to your research There is a tremendous amount of info on Geneanet, It is primarily a French site, but has other info as well. Enjoy! ----- Original Message ----- From: <steveschang@wowway.com> To: <alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com>; <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Looking for ancestors.... alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com, alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com I am trying to decide which would be my next step in trying to find the family link from The Schang Family ancestors. I was able to get information from the Latter Day Saints that show that persons name Schang were born about the 1600's through the 1800's. In the area of Luneville, Meurthe-et- moselle, Folschviller,Moselle, Valmaont, Altvillier, Sengbus, St. Aold, Moselle, Vahl-ebersing, Vahl, Ebersing, Moselle, France. I did look at this website http://www.genealogy.tm.fr/acte.htm , but I realize I have to change it in to English to be able to read it. The information I have on my Schang family line links up to Josef Schang from Heufield, Hungary, Born: 1735, Died: 24Mar1813 was married to Susanne Portier. So my question is which would be my next step in following my family link? I understand it will be best to follow the family ancestry line back to where it began. Is there someplace or somebody I can contact? Thank you, Steve Schang (Michigan) -- WOW! Homepage (http://www.wowway.com) -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for Catharine LEININGER. She was born around 1821 (based on age listed in birth records of her children) She was married to Georg (or Johann Georg) CASSEL. They lived in the village of La Petite Pierre, Bas Rhin Alsace, FRA. Georg was born in Volksburg. I don't know where she was born. They were married around 1840 I have not found their marriage or her birth records in La Petite Pierre or Volksberg. Does anyone have the 1835 census CD for the La Petite Pierre district? If so could you look for Catherine? Has anyone come across a Catherine LEININGER that matches what I know? I suspect that she was from the hilly region around La Petite Pierre. (Krum Elsas/Alsace Bousse). The CASSELs were Protestant. They lived in the same cluster of small villages from the time when it was part of the Holy Roman Empire and not annexed by France. Thanks for any help you can give. Even a negative answer will help me figure out where to not look. Charles Laun

My mother died in 2001 at age 101 so I can't get any more information.  I will try the sites you gave me.  Thanks a lot --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [A-L] Finding the Zarr Family To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 4:51 PM On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Charlotte Chase <itsmecac@yahoo.com> wrote: > Could anyone help me. My mother, many years ago, said her family came from Alsace Lorraine. The family name was Zarr. I know there was a Parker Zarr that came from somewhere in Germany back in the 1800's. > > Thank you. > CHarlotte CHase Hi Charlotte. For all European research, you must have a village name, or at least a small region with a few villages, because that is where all the records are kept! There are few to no departement, county or region-wide censuses or other general surveys such as our US Census records. So, you must do your American or Canadian research, before trying to "jump the pond" back to Europe. I have a number of suggestions for ways to do that here: http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/02/european-research.html That said, with a relatively rare name like Zarr, you might find some help here: http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/03/surnames.html Finally, I have an introduction to research in the Alsace: http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/alsace.html I hope these are helpful to you, Valorie -- All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Köln/Cologne was never part of A-L. Napoleon did occupy it and there is a historical result of that occupation. It seems that when Napoleon occupied Köln there were no house numbers. So he commanded that a rider go through the town and number each building consecutively with chalk. One particular fragrance shop was numbered 4711. Their product was given that number as its name, and is still sold today http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4711_%28brand%29 At 03:23 PM 8/10/2008, you wrote: >From: "Ralph Taylor" <rt-sails@comcast.net> >Subject: Re: [A-L] ALSACE-LORRAINE -- >To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> > >RE: "Alsace Lorraine in North West Germany near Cologne" >"Would any one on this list know if when France controlled the area >Northwest of Cologne in period 1792 to 1806 or maybe later was that area >known as Alsace Lorraine then?" > >To my knowledge, the area northwest of Cologne (German = Koln) has never >been part of either Alsace (German = Elzass) or Lorraine (German = >Lothringen). It may have been under the control of Napoleon's France >subsequent to 1804. ____________________________________________________________ Don't let your life go up in flames. Click here for the latest fire saftey products. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4vArENF27oyS9eymq5U7uLizxNw25i1t2FMOpJ0ceWabBSJ3/

Charlie, Thank you for the information. I have been putting the bits and pieces together for a few years, and then get that blank spot in my brain thoughts. Steve III On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:23:03 -0400, Charles Holtzback wrote > Hi Steve, > Here's something I found on the Vital Records Index-Western Europe. > > SCHWARTZ, Nicolaus Marriage > Wife: Catharina SCHANG > Marriage Date: 10 Jan 1764 Recorded in: Forbach, > Moselle, France Husband previously married Wife > previously married Source: FHL Film 1170298 Dates: 1745 - > 1764 Note: Additional Data in Original Record > > It's the only reference to SCHANG on the CD. > Hope this helps a little. Good luck. > > Charlie > > On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM, <steveschang@wowway.com> wrote: > > > alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com, alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > > > > I am trying to decide which would be my next step in trying to find the > > family link from The Schang Family ancestors. I was able to get > > information > > from the Latter Day Saints that show that persons name Schang were born > > about the 1600's through the 1800's. In the area of Luneville, > > Meurthe-et- > > moselle, Folschviller,Moselle, Valmaont, Altvillier, Sengbus, St. Aold, > > Moselle, Vahl-ebersing, Vahl, Ebersing, Moselle, France. > > > > I did look at this website http://www.genealogy.tm.fr/acte.htm , but I > > realize I have to change it in to English to be able to read it. > > > > The information I have on my Schang family line links up to Josef Schang > > from Heufield, Hungary, Born: 1735, Died: 24Mar1813 was married to Susanne > > Portier. > > So my question is which would be my next step in following my family link? > > I understand it will be best to follow the family ancestry line back to > > where it began. Is there someplace or somebody I can contact? > > > > Thank you, > > Steve Schang > > (Michigan) > > > > > > -- > > WOW! Homepage (http://www.wowway.com) > > > > -- > > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine- L.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine- > L.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE- > LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- WOW! Homepage (http://www.wowway.com)

According to a family member, the Thiery's and Metz's that I mentioned were born in Guttemberg,Germany. Jean Pierre Bles was born in Freyming, Moselle, France.? I now I may be able to get some records for births in Guttemberg...have to research Freyming, Moselle, France. Thanks to everyone who responded.

Hi Steve, Here's something I found on the Vital Records Index-Western Europe. SCHWARTZ, Nicolaus Marriage Wife: Catharina SCHANG Marriage Date: 10 Jan 1764 Recorded in: Forbach, Moselle, France Husband previously married Wife previously married Source: FHL Film 1170298 Dates: 1745 - 1764 Note: Additional Data in Original Record It's the only reference to SCHANG on the CD. Hope this helps a little. Good luck. Charlie On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM, <steveschang@wowway.com> wrote: > alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com, alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > > I am trying to decide which would be my next step in trying to find the > family link from The Schang Family ancestors. I was able to get > information > from the Latter Day Saints that show that persons name Schang were born > about the 1600's through the 1800's. In the area of Luneville, > Meurthe-et- > moselle, Folschviller,Moselle, Valmaont, Altvillier, Sengbus, St. Aold, > Moselle, Vahl-ebersing, Vahl, Ebersing, Moselle, France. > > I did look at this website http://www.genealogy.tm.fr/acte.htm , but I > realize I have to change it in to English to be able to read it. > > The information I have on my Schang family line links up to Josef Schang > from Heufield, Hungary, Born: 1735, Died: 24Mar1813 was married to Susanne > Portier. > So my question is which would be my next step in following my family link? > I understand it will be best to follow the family ancestry line back to > where it began. Is there someplace or somebody I can contact? > > Thank you, > Steve Schang > (Michigan) > > > -- > WOW! Homepage (http://www.wowway.com) > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Evalorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Google the name. One at Thoma family, this elsewhere<http://www.siscom.net/~erhull/SCHELL/index.html> *CHRISTMANN, Pierre * Birth : 30 MAY 1868 France-Reipertswiller Bas Rhin Death : 21 FEB 1935 France-Reipertswiller Bas Rhin Gender: Male Parents: Father: CHRISTMANN, Phillippe <http://www.siscom.net/~erhull/SCHELL/dat118.html#13> Mother: BAUMANN, Sophie <http://www.siscom.net/~erhull/SCHELL/dat118.html#13> Family: Marriage: 1 APR 1891 in France-Reipertswiller Bas Rhin Spouse: *METZ, Christine * Birth : 3 NOV 1871 France-Reipertswiller Bas Rhin Death : 7 MAY 1948 France-Reipertswiller Bas Rhin Gender: Female Parents: Father: METZ, Chretien <http://www.siscom.net/~erhull/SCHELL/dat118.html#11> Mother: SAND, Madeleine <http://www.siscom.net/~erhull/SCHELL/dat118.html#11> Children: *CHRISTMANN, Emile * Birth : 24 AUG 1901 France-Reipertswiller Bas Rhin Death : 30 DEC 1969 France-Reipertswiller Bas Rhin Gender: Male On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:20 PM, John Bachmann <capnkaye@gmail.com> wrote: > Try www.ott.fr/ , FREE, ENGLISH and there is a number of Christmann's > listed along with Pierre. > > > On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Marilyn Potthast <omaandopa06@att.net>wrote: > >> I need the exact spelling of where my gr grandfather's birth place is as I >> have the home town of Cosswillen and someone told me this was not correct. >> Could someone tell me how it is spelled. It is North east france on the >> border of Germany. I also have the city Hall which is called Mairie de >> Cosswillen. I assumed my relative got the birth certificate from there. >> Cannot read the mother's full name as the copy I have is very bad. He >> came >> over here sometime I think in the late 1850's. I know he married my gr >> grandmother in 1864 at Portland, WI. I wish I could find when he came >> over >> but cannot find any ship. I assume he would have shipped out of France. >> >> His name was Peter Christmann but of course on the birth certificate it >> Pierre. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin >> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:10 PM >> To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [A-L] Looking for ancestors.... >> >> pmal69 >> For Your search >> Check out >> >> http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp >> or >> http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ >> or >> http://www.surnamenavigator.org/ >> >> Just fill out the blanks , and click " search " , or " go " >> >> If the records are not entered , then You may have to order some films >> , >> >> of that town ( if You find a towns name ), of that time , >> from the FHC library >> >> Karl Roussin >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <pmal69@aol.com> >> To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:06 PM >> Subject: [A-L] Looking for ancestors.... >> >> >> > Surnames:? Thiery, Metz, Bles, Delese >> > All of the above were my grgr and grgrgrgrandparents from Alsace >> Lorraine. >> > The names I know of are George Thiery, DOB abt 1831 - married Anna M. >> > Ester Metz married Philip Thiery immigrated to America around 1891. >> > Jean Pierre Bles married Suzanne Delese DOB? 3 Nov 1839, their daughter >> > Mary Bles DOB 1874, immigrated thru Galveston Texas in 1881. >> > If anything is familiar to anyone please contact me @ pmal69@aol.com. >> > Any help in finding records for the above people will be greatly >> > appreciated. >> > -- >> > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature >> database 3342 (20080809) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature >> database 3342 (20080809) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com, alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com I am trying to decide which would be my next step in trying to find the family link from The Schang Family ancestors. I was able to get information from the Latter Day Saints that show that persons name Schang were born about the 1600’s through the 1800’s. In the area of Luneville, Meurthe-et- moselle, Folschviller,Moselle, Valmaont, Altvillier, Sengbus, St. Aold, Moselle, Vahl-ebersing, Vahl, Ebersing, Moselle, France. I did look at this website http://www.genealogy.tm.fr/acte.htm , but I realize I have to change it in to English to be able to read it. The information I have on my Schang family line links up to Josef Schang from Heufield, Hungary, Born: 1735, Died: 24Mar1813 was married to Susanne Portier. So my question is which would be my next step in following my family link? I understand it will be best to follow the family ancestry line back to where it began. Is there someplace or somebody I can contact? Thank you, Steve Schang (Michigan) -- WOW! Homepage (http://www.wowway.com)

Try www.ott.fr/ , FREE, ENGLISH and there is a number of Christmann's listed along with Pierre. On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Marilyn Potthast <omaandopa06@att.net>wrote: > I need the exact spelling of where my gr grandfather's birth place is as I > have the home town of Cosswillen and someone told me this was not correct. > Could someone tell me how it is spelled. It is North east france on the > border of Germany. I also have the city Hall which is called Mairie de > Cosswillen. I assumed my relative got the birth certificate from there. > Cannot read the mother's full name as the copy I have is very bad. He came > over here sometime I think in the late 1850's. I know he married my gr > grandmother in 1864 at Portland, WI. I wish I could find when he came over > but cannot find any ship. I assume he would have shipped out of France. > > His name was Peter Christmann but of course on the birth certificate it > Pierre. > > -----Original Message----- > From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:10 PM > To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [A-L] Looking for ancestors.... > > pmal69 > For Your search > Check out > > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp > or > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > or > http://www.surnamenavigator.org/ > > Just fill out the blanks , and click " search " , or " go " > > If the records are not entered , then You may have to order some films , > > of that town ( if You find a towns name ), of that time , > from the FHC library > > Karl Roussin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <pmal69@aol.com> > To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:06 PM > Subject: [A-L] Looking for ancestors.... > > > > Surnames:? Thiery, Metz, Bles, Delese > > All of the above were my grgr and grgrgrgrandparents from Alsace > Lorraine. > > The names I know of are George Thiery, DOB abt 1831 - married Anna M. > > Ester Metz married Philip Thiery immigrated to America around 1891. > > Jean Pierre Bles married Suzanne Delese DOB? 3 Nov 1839, their daughter > > Mary Bles DOB 1874, immigrated thru Galveston Texas in 1881. > > If anything is familiar to anyone please contact me @ pmal69@aol.com. > > Any help in finding records for the above people will be greatly > > appreciated. > > -- > > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 3342 (20080809) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 3342 (20080809) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

RE: "Alsace Lorraine in North West Germany near Cologne" "Would any one on this list know if when France controlled the area Northwest of Cologne in period 1792 to 1806 or maybe later was that area known as Alsace Lorraine then?" To my knowledge, the area northwest of Cologne (German = Koln) has never been part of either Alsace (German = Elzass) or Lorraine (German = Lothringen). It may have been under the control of Napoleon's France subsequent to 1804. RE: " Surnames:? Thiery, Metz, Bles, Delese" OR -- place names? Metz is the capital of Lorraine. Thiery is a commune in the arrondissement of Nice in the region of Alpes-Maritime.

Sorry Jean, this is totally wrong. The part of Germany around Landau, in Palatinate (Pflatz), was French ONLY during a short period of time (French Revolution), as written by "wwkersner". It was then named "Departement du Mont Tonnerre". It was German the rest of the time, as it is today (part of Rheinland- Pfaltz). As far as I know (but I may be wrong), it wasn't considered as part of Alsace. It is anachronous to associate Alsace and Lorraine at the beginning of the 1800's. They always were separate provinces, apart from the German (Prussian) annexion between 1871 and 1918. Moreover, as mentionned several times on this list, only a part of Lorraine (more or less the today departement Moselle) was annexed to Germany ("Elsass- Lothringen"). Have a nice Sunday, Etienne > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:35:29 EDT > From: Nutmeg421@aol.com > > In a message dated 8/9/08 9:47:58 AM, wwkesner@verizon.net writes: > >> Would any one on this list know if when France controlled the area >> Northwest of Cologne in period 1792 to 1806 or maybe later was that >> area known as >> Alsace Lorraine then? > > It went back and forth with Prussia until Germany was formed in 1871 > and > became a part of Bavaria. Then after WWI, it reverted to France > until the Germans > took it in WWII. Since WWII, it has been part of France. (...) Jean

I need the exact spelling of where my gr grandfather's birth place is as I have the home town of Cosswillen and someone told me this was not correct. Could someone tell me how it is spelled. It is North east france on the border of Germany. I also have the city Hall which is called Mairie de Cosswillen. I assumed my relative got the birth certificate from there. Cannot read the mother's full name as the copy I have is very bad. He came over here sometime I think in the late 1850's. I know he married my gr grandmother in 1864 at Portland, WI. I wish I could find when he came over but cannot find any ship. I assume he would have shipped out of France. His name was Peter Christmann but of course on the birth certificate it Pierre. -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:10 PM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] Looking for ancestors.... pmal69 For Your search Check out http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp or http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ or http://www.surnamenavigator.org/ Just fill out the blanks , and click " search " , or " go " If the records are not entered , then You may have to order some films , of that town ( if You find a towns name ), of that time , from the FHC library Karl Roussin ----- Original Message ----- From: <pmal69@aol.com> To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:06 PM Subject: [A-L] Looking for ancestors.... > Surnames:? Thiery, Metz, Bles, Delese > All of the above were my grgr and grgrgrgrandparents from Alsace Lorraine. > The names I know of are George Thiery, DOB abt 1831 - married Anna M. > Ester Metz married Philip Thiery immigrated to America around 1891. > Jean Pierre Bles married Suzanne Delese DOB? 3 Nov 1839, their daughter > Mary Bles DOB 1874, immigrated thru Galveston Texas in 1881. > If anything is familiar to anyone please contact me @ pmal69@aol.com. > Any help in finding records for the above people will be greatly > appreciated. > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3342 (20080809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3342 (20080809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Looking at http://www.genealogy.tm.fr/acte.htm if your grandparents were from Alsace Lorraine, the surname Thiery is most likely from the department des Vosges, Bles from Moselle. Metz is rather common in Alsace... You will need to gather more information about them in the US to narrow down the are they came from. - Giliane -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pmal69@aol.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 6:06 PM To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com Subject: [A-L] Looking for ancestors.... Surnames:? Thiery, Metz, Bles, Delese All of the above were my grgr and grgrgrgrandparents from Alsace Lorraine. The names I know of are George Thiery, DOB abt 1831 - married Anna M. Ester Metz married Philip Thiery immigrated to America around 1891. Jean Pierre Bles married Suzanne Delese DOB? 3 Nov 1839, their daughter Mary Bles DOB 1874, immigrated thru Galveston Texas in 1881. If anything is familiar to anyone please contact me @ pmal69@aol.com. Any help in finding records for the above people will be greatly appreciated. -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1602 - Release Date: 8/9/2008 1:22 PM

pmal69 For Your search Check out http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp or http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ or http://www.surnamenavigator.org/ Just fill out the blanks , and click " search " , or " go " If the records are not entered , then You may have to order some films , of that town ( if You find a towns name ), of that time , from the FHC library Karl Roussin ----- Original Message ----- From: <pmal69@aol.com> To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:06 PM Subject: [A-L] Looking for ancestors.... > Surnames:? Thiery, Metz, Bles, Delese > All of the above were my grgr and grgrgrgrandparents from Alsace Lorraine. > The names I know of are George Thiery, DOB abt 1831 - married Anna M. > Ester Metz married Philip Thiery immigrated to America around 1891. > Jean Pierre Bles married Suzanne Delese DOB? 3 Nov 1839, their daughter > Mary Bles DOB 1874, immigrated thru Galveston Texas in 1881. > If anything is familiar to anyone please contact me @ pmal69@aol.com. > Any help in finding records for the above people will be greatly > appreciated. > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, I not connected to any of those names. Jim> To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:06:03 -0400> From: pmal69@aol.com> Subject: [A-L] Looking for ancestors....> > Surnames:? Thiery, Metz, Bles, Delese> All of the above were my grgr and grgrgrgrandparents from Alsace Lorraine.> The names I know of are George Thiery, DOB abt 1831 - married Anna M.> Ester Metz married Philip Thiery immigrated to America around 1891.> Jean Pierre Bles married Suzanne Delese DOB? 3 Nov 1839, their daughter Mary Bles DOB 1874, immigrated thru Galveston Texas in 1881.> If anything is familiar to anyone please contact me @ pmal69@aol.com.> Any help in finding records for the above people will be greatly appreciated.> -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members:> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Surnames:? Thiery, Metz, Bles, Delese All of the above were my grgr and grgrgrgrandparents from Alsace Lorraine. The names I know of are George Thiery, DOB abt 1831 - married Anna M. Ester Metz married Philip Thiery immigrated to America around 1891. Jean Pierre Bles married Suzanne Delese DOB? 3 Nov 1839, their daughter Mary Bles DOB 1874, immigrated thru Galveston Texas in 1881. If anything is familiar to anyone please contact me @ pmal69@aol.com. Any help in finding records for the above people will be greatly appreciated.

In a message dated 8/9/08 9:47:58 AM, wwkesner@verizon.net writes: > Would any one on this list know if when France controlled the area > Northwest of Cologne in period 1792 to 1806 or maybe later was that area known as > Alsace Lorraine then? > > It went back and forth with Prussia until Germany was formed in 1871 and became a part of Bavaria. Then after WWI, it reverted to France until the Germans took it in WWII. Since WWII, it has been part of France. My grandfather came from there. If any of you know about Adam Becker and Maria Brunon Becker in Alsace, let me know. I've been looking for their hometown for over thirty years. Both were killed in an accident in the 1860's. Three of the children came to America and I believe three stayed behind. I want to get past this brick wall and would appreciate any information you can give. Jean ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )