I am looking for my wife's family who immigrated from Alsace-Lorraine. The family name was GEYMANN or GEYMAN. Joseph Geyman and Catherine (Cooney) Geyman came the USA in May 1884 on the ship SS Labrador with the Port of Departure from Le Havre, France. Joseph was born in 1836. His father was Josef Geymann and his mother's name was Mary(Marie) Neary or Neena. His younger brother, Anthony, came to the USA in 1843 and settled in Sandusky, Ohio. Any information about the Geymann's would be helpful. I can be reach at lfischer@suddenlink.net. Thanks, Lou Fischer

Hi, My direct line is BECKER. Many of Becker Family lived in the town of Schaidt, Bavaria. It is short distance from the border of Alsace. The Church Records show births of many Becker members. Mine were Catholic. I believe depending on what years, the borders did change at different times. My direct Beckers emmigrated to America and settled in Reading, PA areas. Michael Becker b abt 1766 and died February 22, 1838 in Schaidt, Pfalz, Bayern. Married Maria Anna Heusser between1786-1789 Their son: Valentin Becker born August 27, 1807 in Schaidt, Pfalz, Bayern,( Bavaria ) died after 1854. Married Maria Anna Schimpf b June 02, 1835 in Schaidt, Pfalz, Bayern, daughter of Joannes Schimpf and Maria Maurer Children of Valentin Becker and Marie Anna Shimpf are: i. Odilia (Adelia) Becker b April 14, 1837, Schaidt.(married Louis Binger b abt 1839 in Duchy of Nassau, Germany) ii Valentin Becker b January 14, 1839, Schaidt iii Maria Anna Becker b September 27, 1840 Schaidt iv Michael Becker b January 21, 1842, Schaidt v Magdalena Becker b March 23, 1844, Schaidt vi Barbara Becker b November 21, 1845, Schaidt vii Catharina Becker b March 27, 1848, Schaidt viii Jacob Becker b January 21, 1854, Schaidt ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:01 AM Subject: ALSACE-LORRAINE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 288 > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:27:02 EST > From: Nutmeg421@aol.com > Subject: Re: [A-L] Bischwiller > Message-ID: <c64.36a5c753.364709c6@aol.com> > Etienne: Bischwiller. Not to be confused with Bitche? I'm still looking > for > Adam Becker and his wife Maria Brunon in Alsace. Someone wrote that their > son > in law was from Bitche, which I believe you pointed out was in Lorraine. > My > grandfather always stated that he was born in Alsace, was French and his > native > tongue was French. Later census records say he was born in Bavaria, which > I > know is part of Germany, founded in 1871. He also says Prussia at times. > Did > Alsace become part of Bayern or Bavaria when it was part of Germany? This > is my > thirty year search. I can't go past Adam Becker and Maria Brunon Becker > without > finding their village. Both were killed in an accident in the 1860s. I'd > love > to find out more about that, too. When my grandfather and his younger > brother > left, they left from LeHavre, went to England before coming to NYC, about > 1868. I seem to be the only one researching this Becker line. Surely there > are > other descendants. I always thought some stayed in Europe. Well, I know > they did > because we had a picture of them that was taken prior to WWII on the wall > when > I was a child. I do not now what happened to the picture, but I can still > see > it. Some were about my age. I know they were impacted by the war. Haunts > me > still. Jean

My Langenfeld ancestors also were listed in U.S. census reports as being from France or from Germany and sometimes it was in precisely the wrong periods of time, so that when listing Germany, the French held the area and vice versa. However, the Langenfeld family originates in Germany, and intermarried in France with other Germans, Austrians, and then with the French and with one family from Belgium. Perhaps what they are doing is listing ethnic identity. It is also interesting to look at whom they married in America. My ancestor, Rachael (Regina) Langenfeld, married a man from Hessia. Her brothers and sisters continued marrying people with German names, so I am guessing that they identified more with their German ancestry; however, many of these surnames are found in their Hanviller/Lengelsheim area. Looking at whom a silbing group marries in America can be an important clue. I found the location of my family by posting them so many times with dates and names of children that someone in France actually recognized them as being from the Hanviller area. Once that happened, the genealogy of the family goes way back. But it was by pure chance that someone read these posts. I think it might be easier to try to track "Brunon." Given Adam's languages, it is possible that he may have also lived in Switzerland. The Langenfelds somehow went through Switzerland on their way out, and this is the listing of nationality on their ship record. Dianne ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nutmeg421@aol.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] Bischwiller > Thanks, Etienne. Now I'm more confused than ever. On census records he > always > said he was born in Alsace. He was French and his native tongue was > French. > In later census records he said he was born in Bavaria or Prussia. I know > that > Alsace went back and forth from France to the area that became Germany in > 1871, but he had left for America before that. Such a brick wall. I'll put > the > names out again. Adam Becker and his wife Maria Brunon Becker were killed > in the > 1860s. His oldest daughter, Mary, born 1844, married an Ernhardt Stinger > from > Germany and moved to America. Ohio,then Iowa and ultimately Michigan. I do > not > know if she married in Europe or America. Charles was 18 and his younger > brother, Nicholas was 12 when they came to America. I know some siblings > remained > in Europe. I also know that Becker is a very common name. I figure that > Adam > Becker was born around 1825. I found about sixty Adam Beckers born about > then > but which one, if any, was my ancestor? Charles could speak French, German > and > Italian and later, English.Can anyone help me? Brick walls should be > breakable, but after all these years, I'm not so sure mine can be. I've > hired a > professional genealogist here. Perhaps I need to hire one there. Any > suggestions? > > > > ************** > AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other > Holiday needs. Search Now. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from-aol- > search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jean, Bischwiller in Bas-Rhin, Alsace has nothing to do with Bitche in Moselle, Lorraine. Bischwiller < Bischoveswilre 1236 = "villa of the Bischof" (bishop) Bitche < Bytis castrum 1172 = "castle on the hill" I remember having put a query for you on a regional list, without any response so far. Looks like a needle in a haystack. Alsace has NEVER belonged to Bavaria, which is far away. Bavaria is much older than 1871, since it was mentionned in early Middle Age. The only (indirect) link to Alsace was that a part of Palatinate (German region, north to Alsace and Lorraine) was ruled by Bavaria for some time. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany ---- then "5. States" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhenish_Palatinate Another recurrent topic: Alsace and Lorraine were NEVER part of historical Prussia (region of Berlin) . When annexed to the Second Empire (1871-1918), Alsace (at least its malor part) and a part of Lorraine (Moselle) formed together the Land of "Elsass-Lothringen" within the Empire ruled by the Prussians. The whole Empire was often named the Prussian Empire. Have a nice Sunday, Etienne Le 9 nov. 08 à 09:01, alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com a écrit : > Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:27:02 EST > From: Nutmeg421@aol.com > > In a message dated 11/8/08 3:43:50 AM, etienne.herrbach@wanadoo.fr > writes: >> Alsatian roots, in Bischwiller, Bas Rhin, > > Etienne: Bischwiller. Not to be confused with Bitche? I'm still > looking for > Adam Becker and his wife Maria Brunon in Alsace. Someone wrote that > their son > in law was from Bitche, which I believe you pointed out was in > Lorraine. My > grandfather always stated that he was born in Alsace, was French and > his native > tongue was French. Later census records say he was born in Bavaria, > which I > know is part of Germany, founded in 1871. He also says Prussia at > times. Did > Alsace become part of Bayern or Bavaria when it was part of Germany? > This is my > thirty year search. I can't go past Adam Becker and Maria Brunon > Becker without > finding their village. Both were killed in an accident in the 1860s. > I'd love > to find out more about that, too. When my grandfather and his > younger brother > left, they left from LeHavre, went to England before coming to NYC, > about > 1868. I seem to be the only one researching this Becker line. Surely > there are > other descendants. I always thought some stayed in Europe. Well, I > know they did > because we had a picture of them that was taken prior to WWII on the > wall when > I was a child. I do not now what happened to the picture, but I can > still see > it. Some were about my age. I know they were impacted by the war. > Haunts me > still. Jean

Thanks, Etienne. Now I'm more confused than ever. On census records he always said he was born in Alsace. He was French and his native tongue was French. In later census records he said he was born in Bavaria or Prussia. I know that Alsace went back and forth from France to the area that became Germany in 1871, but he had left for America before that. Such a brick wall. I'll put the names out again. Adam Becker and his wife Maria Brunon Becker were killed in the 1860s. His oldest daughter, Mary, born 1844, married an Ernhardt Stinger from Germany and moved to America. Ohio,then Iowa and ultimately Michigan. I do not know if she married in Europe or America. Charles was 18 and his younger brother, Nicholas was 12 when they came to America. I know some siblings remained in Europe. I also know that Becker is a very common name. I figure that Adam Becker was born around 1825. I found about sixty Adam Beckers born about then but which one, if any, was my ancestor? Charles could speak French, German and Italian and later, English.Can anyone help me? Brick walls should be breakable, but after all these years, I'm not so sure mine can be. I've hired a professional genealogist here. Perhaps I need to hire one there. Any suggestions? ************** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from-aol- search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

Hello Giliane, don't know about GILLY. Anyway, both seems to be derived from the Christian name Gilles (French), Gilg or Gillig (German), Egidius (Latin). Etienne > Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 07:07:15 -0500 > From: "Giliane Bader-Wechseler" <gbw1@comcast.net> > > I Have seen the spelling GILLIG in Epfig Bas-Rhin, and wonder if > GILLY is > also another variant, found in Thannenkich, Haut-Rhin > > - Giliane > -----Original Message----- > On Behalf Of Etienne Herrbach > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 2:59 AM > > Hello all, > > Ewald is right, GILLICH or GILLIG is a rare surname. Let me add that > is is sometimes written GILG. This name is common in Eguisheim, Haut- > Rhin, for instance. > > Etienne > > Le 2 nov. 08 ? 08:00, alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com a ?crit : > >> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 10:24:03 +0100 >> From: "EWALD" <ewald.klein@gmail.com> >> >> The name GILLICH is rare in Alsace-Lorraine, only 3 births during >> the last >> century: in Colmar (Haut Rhin, Alsace) and Neuf-Brisach (Haut Rhin), >> only between 1941-1965. >> (...) >> Ewald (living in Alsace)

Hello Listers, as many of you are aware of, let me remind that the new President of USA has Alsatian roots, in Bischwiller, Bas Rhin, precisely: http://cjoint.com/data/lhtTgjvwwt.htm http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html Congratulations Etienne Herrbach Alsace

In a message dated 11/8/08 3:43:50 AM, etienne.herrbach@wanadoo.fr writes: > Alsatian roots, in Bischwiller, Bas Rhin, > > Etienne: Bischwiller. Not to be confused with Bitche? I'm still looking for Adam Becker and his wife Maria Brunon in Alsace. Someone wrote that their son in law was from Bitche, which I believe you pointed out was in Lorraine. My grandfather always stated that he was born in Alsace, was French and his native tongue was French. Later census records say he was born in Bavaria, which I know is part of Germany, founded in 1871. He also says Prussia at times. Did Alsace become part of Bayern or Bavaria when it was part of Germany? This is my thirty year search. I can't go past Adam Becker and Maria Brunon Becker without finding their village. Both were killed in an accident in the 1860s. I'd love to find out more about that, too. When my grandfather and his younger brother left, they left from LeHavre, went to England before coming to NYC, about 1868. I seem to be the only one researching this Becker line. Surely there are other descendants. I always thought some stayed in Europe. Well, I know they did because we had a picture of them that was taken prior to WWII on the wall when I was a child. I do not now what happened to the picture, but I can still see it. Some were about my age. I know they were impacted by the war. Haunts me still. Jean ************** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holi days-from-aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

I found a Tuckwiller Spring in Greenbrier, and the story of the Tuckwiller Tavern at http://www.wvculture.org/shpo/nr/pdf/greenbrier/75001891.pdf The name Tuckwiller is definitely associated with Greenbrier: "John TUCKWILLER, one of Greenbrier's thrifty and industrious German settlers, arrived with his wife, Catherine (RIFFE) and their children, about 1776." But looking at the counties' history, I found: "WEST VIRGINIA COUNTIES 1778 - Greenbrier, the third oldest county in West Virginia, the offspring of Montgomery and Botetourt Counties VA, received its name from the abundance of green briers lining the Greenbrier River Banks 1799 - Monroe, the offspring of Greenbrier County, named in honor of James MONROE, the fifth President of the United States. Rehabath Church, erected in 1796, the oldest Methodist Ch7urch west of the Allegheyn Mountains, is in Monroe County." - Giliane -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Howard Kuhn Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:08 AM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] ... Bischwiller Are you sure about a community named Tuckwiller existing in Monroe County, in southern West Virginia?  Having lived in West Virginia for almost 40 years, I had not heard of it.  Moreover, on official web sites for Monroe County, I could find no incorporated or unincorporated community called "Tuckwiller."   However, the name "Tuckwiller" is not unheard of in the state.  A prize-winning reporter and writer for The Charleston Gazette is named Tara Tuckwiller.  But I would say the name is far from common, appearing most often in the capital city of Charleston and in Lewisburg, which is in Greenbrier County, site of the upscale Greenbrier Resort.  --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Eddie Howard <swvaroot@pemtel.net> wrote: From: Eddie Howard <swvaroot@pemtel.net> Subject: Re: [A-L] ... Bischwiller To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 6:38 AM Etienne, Tuckwiller is in Southern WV. Monroe Co, WV . It's a area with high German pioneers settling during 1770-1800 . It is part of the Great Valley of Virginia where PA "Dutch" moved South. Thanks. -eddie

Could it be possible that the Gillich family being sought is actually from Bischwiller-les-Thann in Haut-Rhin and not Bischwiller in Bas-Rhin? As I stated in another post, my gr-grandmother didn't use the "les-Thann" designation in any records or stories that she has left behind. P.S. IGI is a wonderful tool, but best applied with some salt. ;') So if you don't find what you are looking for in Bischwiller (Bas-Rhin), you should try Bischwiller-les-Thann (aka Bitschwiller-les-Thann). Brian On Sat, November 1, 2008 3:24 am, EWALD wrote: > Hi, > > The name GILLICH is rare in Alsace-Lorraine, only 3 births during the last > century: in Colmar (Haut Rhin, Alsace) and Neuf-Brisach (Haut Rhin), > only between 1941-1965. > > The French telephone directory has 2 listings for the name GILLICH in > Alsace-Lorraine: in Wintzenheim and Saint-Hippolyte, both in Haut-Rhin, > region Alsace. > > The name GILLIG is more present in Alsace-Lorraine: one listing in the > telephone directory, for Bischwiller (Bas-Rhin, Alsace). > > According to the available censuses 1836 ( www.census1836.fr ) the name > GILLICH was only present in the cantons of Bouxwiller, Drulingen, > La-Petite-Pierre and Sarre-Union (Bas-Rhin, Alsace) and NOT in > the other cantons, like canton of Bischwiller. > > The name GILLIG, in the census 1836 (only for some cantons in Bas-Rhin): > - city of Strasbourg: 6 listings > - cantons of Bischwiller and Haguenau: 46 listings > - cantons of Brumath, Schiltigheim and Truchtersheim: 14 listings > > Here is what microfilms are available for Bischwiller: > - church records: > > Kirchenbuch, 1666-1792 Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Bischweiler (Kr. > Hagenau) > Kirchenbuch, 1684-1792 Evangelische Kirche Bischweiler (Kr. Hagenau) > > Kirchenbuch, 1891-1918 Evangelische Kirche. Militärgemeinde Bischweiler > (Kr. Hagenau) > > Registres de l'eglise réformée de Bischwiller (Bas-Rhin), 1645-1792 > Eglise réformée de Bischwiller (Bas-Rhin) > > Registres paroissiaux, 1731-1792 Eglise catholique. Paroisse de > Bischwiller (Bas-Rhin) > > - civil records: > > Registres de l'état civil, 1792-1882 Bischwiller (Bas-Rhin). Officier de > l'état civil > > Hope this helps to clarify > > > Ewald (living in Alsace) > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > >> Hi, I'm new to the list and have just found out that the person I'm >> researching was born in Alsace-Lorraine. >> >> >> >> The IGI at Family Search has two families listed with the name of >> GILLICH, >> as being born in Bischwiller. As the records only go as far as 1827, I'm >> hoping some kind lister could look up the 1836 census and see if there >> are >> anymore members of these two families. In particular I'm looking for a >> George or William GILLICH.

Hello, yes, -WILLER is a common suffix in the name of Alsatian localities, and elsewhere. Sometimes it evolved into -WIHR (Gueberschwihr, former Geberschweier) ou -VILLE' (Ribeauvillé, former Rappoltsweiler). It is derived from the Latin "villa" = farm, estate. Usually, but not always, it follows a man's name : e.g. Rappoltsweiler <= the domain of Rappolt. BTW where is Tuckwiller? Etienne Le 1 nov. 08 à 05:35, alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com a écrit : > Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:39:19 -0400 > From: "Eddie Howard" <swvaroot@pemtel.net> > > Here and in my records and on the A-L maps I see a lot of names > with -willer suffix. > Does the word have any special meaning?? I have a neighbor > Tuckwiller. > > -eddie

Etienne, Tuckwiller is in Southern WV. Monroe Co, WV . It's a area with high German pioneers settling during 1770-1800 . It is part of the Great Valley of Virginia where PA "Dutch" moved South. Thanks. -eddie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Etienne Herrbach" <etienne.herrbach@wanadoo.fr> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] ... Bischwiller Hello, yes, -WILLER is a common suffix in the name of Alsatian localities, and elsewhere. Sometimes it evolved into -WIHR (Gueberschwihr, former Geberschweier) ou -VILLE' (Ribeauvillé, former Rappoltsweiler). It is derived from the Latin "villa" = farm, estate. Usually, but not always, it follows a man's name : e.g. Rappoltsweiler <= the domain of Rappolt. BTW where is Tuckwiller? Etienne Le 1 nov. 08 à 05:35, alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com a écrit : > Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:39:19 -0400 > From: "Eddie Howard" <swvaroot@pemtel.net> > > Here and in my records and on the A-L maps I see a lot of names > with -willer suffix. > Does the word have any special meaning?? I have a neighbor > Tuckwiller. > > -eddie -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all, Ewald is right, GILLICH or GILLIG is a rare surname. Let me add that is is sometimes written GILG. This name is common in Eguisheim, Haut- Rhin, for instance. Etienne Le 2 nov. 08 à 08:00, alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com a écrit : > Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 10:24:03 +0100 > From: "EWALD" <ewald.klein@gmail.com> > > Hi, > > The name GILLICH is rare in Alsace-Lorraine, only 3 births during > the last > century: in Colmar (Haut Rhin, Alsace) and Neuf-Brisach (Haut Rhin), > only between 1941-1965. > (...) > Ewald (living in Alsace)

Are you sure about a community named Tuckwiller existing in Monroe County, in southern West Virginia?  Having lived in West Virginia for almost 40 years, I had not heard of it.  Moreover, on official web sites for Monroe County, I could find no incorporated or unincorporated community called "Tuckwiller."   However, the name "Tuckwiller" is not unheard of in the state.  A prize-winning reporter and writer for The Charleston Gazette is named Tara Tuckwiller.  But I would say the name is far from common, appearing most often in the capital city of Charleston and in Lewisburg, which is in Greenbrier County, site of the upscale Greenbrier Resort.  --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Eddie Howard <swvaroot@pemtel.net> wrote: From: Eddie Howard <swvaroot@pemtel.net> Subject: Re: [A-L] ... Bischwiller To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 6:38 AM Etienne, Tuckwiller is in Southern WV. Monroe Co, WV . It's a area with high German pioneers settling during 1770-1800 . It is part of the Great Valley of Virginia where PA "Dutch" moved South. Thanks. -eddie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Etienne Herrbach" <etienne.herrbach@wanadoo.fr> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] ... Bischwiller Hello, yes, -WILLER is a common suffix in the name of Alsatian localities, and elsewhere. Sometimes it evolved into -WIHR (Gueberschwihr, former Geberschweier) ou -VILLE' (Ribeauvillé, former Rappoltsweiler). It is derived from the Latin "villa" = farm, estate. Usually, but not always, it follows a man's name : e.g. Rappoltsweiler <= the domain of Rappolt. BTW where is Tuckwiller? Etienne Le 1 nov. 08 à 05:35, alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com a écrit : > Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:39:19 -0400 > From: "Eddie Howard" <swvaroot@pemtel.net> > > Here and in my records and on the A-L maps I see a lot of names > with -willer suffix. > Does the word have any special meaning?? I have a neighbor > Tuckwiller. > > -eddie -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I Have seen the spelling GILLIG in Epfig Bas-Rhin, and wonder if GILLY is also another variant, found in Thannenkich, Haut-Rhin - Giliane -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Etienne Herrbach Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 2:59 AM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] 1836 census Bischwiller - GILLICH Hello all, Ewald is right, GILLICH or GILLIG is a rare surname. Let me add that is is sometimes written GILG. This name is common in Eguisheim, Haut- Rhin, for instance. Etienne Le 2 nov. 08 à 08:00, alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com a écrit : > Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 10:24:03 +0100 > From: "EWALD" <ewald.klein@gmail.com> > > Hi, > > The name GILLICH is rare in Alsace-Lorraine, only 3 births during > the last > century: in Colmar (Haut Rhin, Alsace) and Neuf-Brisach (Haut Rhin), > only between 1941-1965. > (...) > Ewald (living in Alsace) -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1762 - Release Date: 11/2/2008 9:51 AM

I would like to thank Karl, Daniel, Miriam and Harand for your input to the above subject. Your replies to my posting is very much appreciated and indeed most helpful. Regards Catherine

Hello Karl, Thank you for your response to my posting I will check out the sites you mentioned. I live near a Family History Centre so I will pay them a visit and see which films are available to order in. I'm actually doing this research for my sister who lives in the England [who does not have the internet] She was told Henry GILLICH came from Alsace-Lorraine. Her late husband is a descendant of Henry William GILLICH who first appears on the 1891 census living in London but is shown as being born in Germany. He is aged 22 years, occupation Baker & Confectioner. On his marriage certificate [which took place in London] he gives his father's name as George GILLICK a Master Builder. Also on the census he is living with a Charles BECK born Germany occ. Baker. This is all the information I have. Regards Catherine -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2008 1:52 AM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] 1836 census Bischwiller - GILLICH Catherine You do not have very much info to search for , maybe You have more info that You did not send in. For Your search Check out http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp or http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ or http://www.surnamenavigator.org/ Just fill out the blanks , and click " search " , or " go " If the records are not entered , then You may have to order some films , of that town ( if You find the towns name ), of that time , from the FHC library Karl Roussin ============================================= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cath Skeet" <cskeet@optusnet.com.au> To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:58 AM Subject: [A-L] 1836 census Bischwiller - GILLICH > Hi, I'm new to the list and have just found out that the person I'm > researching was born in Alsace-Lorraine. > > > > The IGI at Family Search has two families listed with the name of GILLICH, > as being born in Bischwiller. As the records only go as far as 1827, I'm > hoping some kind lister could look up the 1836 census and see if there are > anymore members of these two families. In particular I'm looking for a > George or William GILLICH. > > > > Many Thanks > > Catherine > > Melbourne Australia. > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would anyone in France consider looking in some census records for around the mid 1880's for a Joseph Mangin who married Marianne Seyer. They had 5 girls---Maria(my grandmother),Sidonie,Mary,Louise and Josephine. I have them coming over in 1888 and 1889 out of Le HAvre but can find no clues as to town/city where they were born, married etc. The only clue is that one of the daughters, Mary, later married a Nicholas MAngin(?relative) who gave his birthplace as Sarrebourg. I'll be very grateful for any help I can get as this is my "brick wall". Thanks Mary Anne Jones maryannejones@comcast.net

Catherine, One of the reasons the references to Germany show up is that between 1871 and 1918 Alsace and Northern Lorraine were occupied by Germany. This back and forth between France and Germany and earlier invaders, went on for centuries. My grandfather was born in Weiler, Alsace when it was France, but was conscripted into the German army in his early 20s because they had been occupied by Germany. After trying that for about 3 years, he decided to leave and come to America. Narda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cath Skeet" <cskeet@optusnet.com.au> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] 1836 census Bischwiller - GILLICH > Hello Karl, > Thank you for your response to my posting I will check out the sites you > mentioned. I live near a Family History Centre so I will pay them a visit > and see which films are available to order in. > I'm actually doing this research for my sister who lives in the England > [who > does not have the internet] She was told Henry GILLICH came from > Alsace-Lorraine. > Her late husband is a descendant of Henry William GILLICH who first > appears > on the 1891 census living in London but is shown as being born in Germany. > He is aged 22 years, occupation Baker & Confectioner. On his marriage > certificate [which took place in London] he gives his father's name as > George GILLICK a Master Builder. > Also on the census he is living with a Charles BECK born Germany occ. > Baker. > This is all the information I have. > Regards > Catherine > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin > Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2008 1:52 AM > To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [A-L] 1836 census Bischwiller - GILLICH > > Catherine > You do not have very much info to search for , maybe You have more info > that You did not send in. > For Your search > Check out > > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp > or > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > or > http://www.surnamenavigator.org/ > > Just fill out the blanks , and click " search " , or " go " > > If the records are not entered , then You may have to order some films > , > > of that town ( if You find the towns name ), of that time , > from the FHC library > > Karl Roussin > ============================================= > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cath Skeet" <cskeet@optusnet.com.au> > To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:58 AM > Subject: [A-L] 1836 census Bischwiller - GILLICH > > >> Hi, I'm new to the list and have just found out that the person I'm >> researching was born in Alsace-Lorraine. >> >> >> >> The IGI at Family Search has two families listed with the name of >> GILLICH, >> as being born in Bischwiller. As the records only go as far as 1827, I'm >> hoping some kind lister could look up the 1836 census and see if there >> are >> anymore members of these two families. In particular I'm looking for a >> George or William GILLICH. >> >> >> >> Many Thanks >> >> Catherine >> >> Melbourne Australia. >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, The name GILLICH is rare in Alsace-Lorraine, only 3 births during the last century: in Colmar (Haut Rhin, Alsace) and Neuf-Brisach (Haut Rhin), only between 1941-1965. The French telephone directory has 2 listings for the name GILLICH in Alsace-Lorraine: in Wintzenheim and Saint-Hippolyte, both in Haut-Rhin, region Alsace. The name GILLIG is more present in Alsace-Lorraine: one listing in the telephone directory, for Bischwiller (Bas-Rhin, Alsace). According to the available censuses 1836 ( www.census1836.fr ) the name GILLICH was only present in the cantons of Bouxwiller, Drulingen, La-Petite-Pierre and Sarre-Union (Bas-Rhin, Alsace) and NOT in the other cantons, like canton of Bischwiller. The name GILLIG, in the census 1836 (only for some cantons in Bas-Rhin): - city of Strasbourg: 6 listings - cantons of Bischwiller and Haguenau: 46 listings - cantons of Brumath, Schiltigheim and Truchtersheim: 14 listings Here is what microfilms are available for Bischwiller: - church records: Kirchenbuch, 1666-1792 Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Bischweiler (Kr. Hagenau) Kirchenbuch, 1684-1792 Evangelische Kirche Bischweiler (Kr. Hagenau) Kirchenbuch, 1891-1918 Evangelische Kirche. Militärgemeinde Bischweiler (Kr. Hagenau) Registres de l'eglise réformée de Bischwiller (Bas-Rhin), 1645-1792 Eglise réformée de Bischwiller (Bas-Rhin) Registres paroissiaux, 1731-1792 Eglise catholique. Paroisse de Bischwiller (Bas-Rhin) - civil records: Registres de l'état civil, 1792-1882 Bischwiller (Bas-Rhin). Officier de l'état civil Hope this helps to clarify Ewald (living in Alsace) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Hi, I'm new to the list and have just found out that the person I'm > researching was born in Alsace-Lorraine. > > > > The IGI at Family Search has two families listed with the name of GILLICH, > as being born in Bischwiller. As the records only go as far as 1827, I'm > hoping some kind lister could look up the 1836 census and see if there are > anymore members of these two families. In particular I'm looking for a > George or William GILLICH. > > > > Many Thanks > > Catherine > > Melbourne Australia.