That information is not correct. All the records are not online. Still for Haut-Rhin, you could add a generation or two. The civil records post Revolution are online. The remainder you can order from the Family History Library. It can take some skill to read the records, but it's a good skill to learn. If you never learn how to read a document how will you know if a researcher is giving you the correct information? Bas-Rhin does indeed has most online, but they are still putting up more stuff. If you are searching in Bas-Rhin you are very fortunate, as a wealth of data is online. Using the online records to go back one more generation will be a good trial and way to get your feet wet. Brian On Wed, June 8, 2011 8:06 pm, Stephan Wall wrote: > Hello Paul > > If the records you seek were prior to 1900 why not try and go it > alone. All of > the records are online. For northern Alsace known as Bas-Rhin the records > can be > accesses at http://etat-civil.bas-rhin.fr/adeloch/index.php And for > southern > Alsace or Haut-Rhin > http://www.archives.cg68.fr/Services_Actes_Civils.aspx . You > will need to know the Commune(town) and learn some basic terms. If you > enjoy > learning about your past it can be quite rewarding. > > > Good Luck > Steve > > > > ________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 5:00:02 PM > Subject: [A-L] Research > > I have some birth documents from around 1850 for my relatives from the > alsace > (thanks to a relative) , but now I would to go back further in time on my > own. > > > Can folks recommend a place to find a researcher who lives in the Alsace? > > Thanks. > > Paul > Portland Oregon > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm  > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks, That's not him. He's not that old yet, and I found him with the help of another lister. It seems I failed to look in one very obvious place. Go figure. I am now going to brush up on my French and write him. Thanks everyone who helped! Brian On Wed, June 8, 2011 8:46 am, David Fetherston wrote: > Brian, >     it often happens that the more experienced researchers are older. He > may no longer be able to keep the tree online (financially) or physically. > I'd recommend trying to contact the person who has posted his tree and > seek contact information there. Roger may be very glad to hear from you if > you can track him down. I'd be glad to help you track down the owner of > the current tree if not private. > >    If you happen to know a location for him, using a site like Facebook or > even Mylife, as much as I dislike their practices could help. > > Best of luck , > Dave > > > BTW, I hope this isn't who you are looking for. > http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.obits2/6200/mb.ashx If so, you may still > be able to contact his family. > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ALSACE-LORRAINE list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ALSACE-LORRAINE mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ALSACE-LORRAINE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 135 > *********************************************** > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Paul If the records you seek were prior to 1900 why not try and go it alone. All of the records are online. For northern Alsace known as Bas-Rhin the records can be accesses at http://etat-civil.bas-rhin.fr/adeloch/index.php And for southern Alsace or Haut-Rhin http://www.archives.cg68.fr/Services_Actes_Civils.aspx . You will need to know the Commune(town) and learn some basic terms. If you enjoy learning about your past it can be quite rewarding. Good Luck Steve ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 5:00:02 PM Subject: [A-L] Research I have some birth documents from around 1850 for my relatives from the alsace (thanks to a relative) , but now I would to go back further in time on my own. Can folks recommend a place to find a researcher who lives in the Alsace? Thanks. Paul Portland Oregon -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have some birth documents from around 1850 for my relatives from the alsace (thanks to a relative) , but now I would to go back further in time on my own. Can folks recommend a place to find a researcher who lives in the Alsace? Thanks. Paul Portland Oregon

____________________________________ Hello... Could anyone on our List tell me if there is a web site that would have blank French census forms on it?? I would appreciate it. Thank you. Louise

Brian,     it often happens that the more experienced researchers are older. He may no longer be able to keep the tree online (financially) or physically. I'd recommend trying to contact the person who has posted his tree and seek contact information there. Roger may be very glad to hear from you if you can track him down. I'd be glad to help you track down the owner of the current tree if not private.    If you happen to know a location for him, using a site like Facebook or even Mylife, as much as I dislike their practices could help. Best of luck , Dave BTW, I hope this isn't who you are looking for. http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.obits2/6200/mb.ashx If so, you may still be able to contact his family. ------------------------------ To contact the ALSACE-LORRAINE list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the ALSACE-LORRAINE mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ALSACE-LORRAINE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 135 ***********************************************

I've been trying to reconnect with my cousin Roger LeGrand. That is not the name he used at the time of our connecting, but rather "Jean". He gave my Alsatian research a huge boost, when he sent me a copy of his tree and a few scans of his research. His site has been gone for a long time and his email stopped working long ago. He's done considerable research in his Alsatian, and otherwise ancestry. His gedcom gave me many names to trace out and fill in. Which I have mostly done over the years. He's the closest cousin (relatively speaking), I'm ever likely to find in Europe (except for his mother, if she's still alive). And I'd like to share back the results of my research as well. No trace of him, but someone else appears to have acquired his tree and has it posted in a private space online. Does anyone know him? Or how to contact him? He seems to have just picked up and left the Internet. Thanks, Brian

I'll be in Mulhouse in July.

Charlie, do you expect to be in Haguenau ? In a message dated 6/5/2011 12:46:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: If anyone needs something from either of these 2 villages let me know this week. I’ll be in the area for 4 weeks. Charlie Homosassa, FL -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Charlie...Pls say "Hi" to the Kolbs and Haury's of Riedseltz (Tho I'm guessing there are few of no Haury's left in Riedseltz)- And give 'em my email address..My 2 gr grandparents emmigrated from Riedseltz to Ohio in 1851, along withtheir four sons and Maria Walter, a cousin. Shirley HAAS Hulett2 gr granddaughter of Thérèse KOLB & Georges Jacques (Jake) Haury ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Charlie Sheridan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [A-L] Oberseebach/Seebach and Riedseltz Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 12:46:12 -0400 If anyone needs something from either of these 2 villages let me know this week. I&rsquo;ll be in the area for 4 weeks. Charlie Homosassa, FL -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4debbd88994628a8b0st04duc

If anyone needs something from either of these 2 villages let me know this week. I’ll be in the area for 4 weeks. Charlie Homosassa, FL

Linn, I don't know if the two volumes cover different periods. As for other places to check, I suppose you've looked at the on-line databases for Castle Gardens (precursor to Ellis Island)? Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2011 8:53:45 AM Subject: [A-L] Thanks Immigration Thanks Sharon: They migrated according to the Pennsylvania 1930 census to the USA in 1870. I have the Alsace Emigration Book Volume 1. It was suggested by this group. I take these suggestions seriously and purchase what I am or others are advised to have for our particular searches. Do you happen to know what time period Volume 2 covers. And/or where else I may look. Thanks so very much for all you and this group does for all of us. Walk in peace, Linn Linn, The Alsace Emigration Book lists three men named Jean Wetzel: 1. Born 1821 in Munster; emigrated to NY 10/09/1846 2. Born 1824 in Buethwiller; emigrated to NY 10/07/1847 3. Born 1830 in Lauw; emigrated to NY 03/08/1852 No Madeleine Kolb (or Madeleine Wetzel) listed. Sharon A Waechter -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Sharon: They migrated according to the Pennsylvania 1930 census to the USA in 1870. I have the Alsace Emigration Book Volume 1. It was suggested by this group. I take these suggestions seriously and purchase what I am or others are advised to have for our particular searches. Do you happen to know what time period Volume 2 covers. And/or where else I may look. Thanks so very much for all you and this group does for all of us. Walk in peace, Linn Linn, The Alsace Emigration Book lists three men named Jean Wetzel: 1. Born 1821 in Munster; emigrated to NY 10/09/1846 2. Born 1824 in Buethwiller; emigrated to NY 10/07/1847 3. Born 1830 in Lauw; emigrated to NY 03/08/1852 No Madeleine Kolb (or Madeleine Wetzel) listed. Sharon A Waechter

Thanks Charlie, for alerting us to the availability of the census records. Complements well with the "adeloch" records. But also brings up some questions. Maybe I'll have some inquiries to post. As we all know, what a great site is Alsace-Lorraine. And always such willingness to help, inform and suggest. Gloria I

Linn, The Alsace Emigration Book lists three men named Jean Wetzel: 1. Born 1821 in Munster; emigrated to NY 10/09/1846 2. Born 1824 in Buethwiller; emigrated to NY 10/07/1847 3. Born 1830 in Lauw; emigrated to NY 03/08/1852 No Madeleine Kolb (or Madeleine Wetzel) listed. Sharon A Waechter ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 6:54:32 AM Subject: [A-L] ? Immigration Hi Everyone: I am trying to find where/when a Jean Paul Wetzel and his wife Madeleine Kolb may have immigrated to the USA. It is believed they came before 1894. The information given to me is conflicting. Some have Jean Paul dying in Alsace in 1934. Others have him dying in USA at 1934. There is a USA census record that states John Wetzel and his wife Madeleine and their children. It states he came in 1870 to Pennsylvania. The problem is we cannot deciper whether it is the same Jean Paul Wetzel and wife Madeleine or another Jean Paul with a wife Madeleine. Any help you may be able to give me or suggestions would be very helpful. Thank you so much. Walk in peace, Linn -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry Narda: Hochstatt is the village. I worked in this village yesterday for a very long time and was very successful with the information I was able to obtain. This group has helped me to learn more of how to read the important parts of these records. Thanks for all your help. Walk in peace, Linn I have been doing a lot of research with the Haut-Rhine Records on Alsace. I have been able to deciper enough of many records to understand who/where/parents and etc. Try as I may the very early birth records of 4 people I cannot make out. I have been able to see on births, 1793-1815 on pg 151 there are 4 references to Schlienger's. Only when I go back to the pages 128, 134, 135, 143 I cannot make out the writing enough to get important names/dates/parents. Would some one be so kind as to help me with these? Which village are you doing? Narda

Hi, L' an dix-huit cent treize le neuf Mars / à huit heure du matin pardevant nous maire / officier de l' Etat civil de Hellimer et Diffenbach / est comparu François Schmitt tanneur domicilé / au dit Hellimer lequel nous a présenté un enfant / du sex masculin né aujourd hui entre / minuit et un heure de lui déclarant et / d'Elisabeth Grosse son épouse et au quel il / a donné le prénom de Nicolas les dites / présentations et déclarations fait en présence / du sieur Nicolas Otter percepteur de contribution / directe age de vingt deux ans et Lorent Sadler / tonnelier age de trente neuf ans tous deux / domicilés a Hellimer de qui nous / nous avoir dressé acte que la père / et déclarant ont signe avec nous / apres lecture faite. Frantz Schmitt, / Bienfait, Nicolas Otter, Lorent Sadler officier de l' État-Civil = Public Records registrar Frantz Schmitt (in old german) = François Schmitt percepteur de contribution directe = direct tax collector Bienfait = surname of the maire. regards, Charles. Selon Laura Aanenson <[email protected]>: > I transcribed my third-great grandfather's birth record, ran it through > Google > translate, and tweaked it as best I can. I am hoping someone on the list can > review my work and make any necessary corrections. View the record here: > http://livinginthepastlane.com/Frenchtranscriptions.aspx Thank you in > advance. > >  Relatively speaking, > > Laura > > > Do we have ancestors in common? Check here http://livinginthepastlane.com

Which village are you doing? Narda On 30 May 2011 15:05, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Everyone: > > I have been doing a lot of research with the Haut-Rhine Records on > Alsace. I have been able to deciper enough of many records to understand > who/where/parents and etc. Try as I may the very early birth records of > 4 > people I cannot make out. I have been able to see on births, 1793-1815 > on > pg 151 there are 4 references to Schlienger's. Only when I go back to > the > pages 128, 134, 135, 143 I cannot make out the writing enough to get > important names/dates/parents. Would some one be so kind as to help me > with > these? > > Thanks you so very much > > Walk in peace, > > Linn > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Everyone: I have been doing a lot of research with the Haut-Rhine Records on Alsace. I have been able to deciper enough of many records to understand who/where/parents and etc. Try as I may the very early birth records of 4 people I cannot make out. I have been able to see on births, 1793-1815 on pg 151 there are 4 references to Schlienger's. Only when I go back to the pages 128, 134, 135, 143 I cannot make out the writing enough to get important names/dates/parents. Would some one be so kind as to help me with these? Thanks you so very much Walk in peace, Linn

Charlie, Where did you get the Hatten map from? I would be interested in knowing if there are similiar maps of other villages. Mary Ann > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 19:37:58 -0400 > Subject: Re: [A-L] Bas-Rhin Website > > Hi Ed, > > Always good news when someone finds interesting info. > > WWII did a job on Hatten but there are still some old homes > (half-timbered)and others standing. Without a map that includes the old > street names it'd be a difficult job trying to determine which house it > would be today and even if it's still there. > > My grandfather came from Oberseebach not far from Hatten and I have a copy > of an 1839 village map with street names & numbers. Also one of the present > day villagers added the surnames of those people living in those homes in > 1839. Lucky for me & others doing Oberseebach research. > > There's also a WWI Museum in Hatten. It seems like only a few years ago > that I was there but looking at my photos it'll be 8 years in June. > > While I don't anticipate visiting Hatten this year I will be in Alsace in 3+ > weeks. > > Take care and continued good fortune. > > Charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Bartholemy > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 4:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [A-L] Bas-Rhin Website > > Thanks Charlie! Wow. This is a real goldmine. > > In my village, Hatten, there is a street, then a number that is unique and > in sequence for each family then in the village. I thought this was like > the similar number in US censuses of this era, just a census family number. > But I noticed that for one of my families, it was the same in 1861 and > 1866 - the number was 268. Is this actually a house number of some sort > that was used outside the census? > > Ed > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 11:10:07 -0400 > From: "Charlie" <[email protected]> > Subject: [A-L] Bas-Rhin Website > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > An Alsatian friend sent me the following website that I made reference to in > previous post. > > You can now check the actual census records for Bas-Rhin communities. > > http://population.bas-rhin.fr/ellenbach/index.php > > > Enjoy. > > Charlie > Homosassa, FL > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ALSACE-LORRAINE list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ALSACE-LORRAINE mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ALSACE-LORRAINE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 126 > *********************************************** > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message