Thanks for the help. Paul On Déardaoin, 18 Lúnasa, 2011, at 13:42, [email protected] wrote: > I'm just guessing here, but "circumcission of the Christ". I'm not exactly > familiar with this holy date. So off to Google I go ... > Google says to go to wikipedia's article > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feast_of_the_Circumcision_of_Christ > > This would have happened 8 days after his birth, which is celebrated on > the 8th day of Christmas or January 1. Of course we can't really be sure > December 25 is the right birthday. ;') > > Brian > > On Thu, August 18, 2011 7:53 am, [email protected] wrote: >> I am having some trouble with a 1756 record. >> >> It says: >> Den 4ten Januar war Dom: p. Circumcisionem Christi, und den 11ten ejusd: >> Dom: I. p. Epiphania ... >> >> Here is what I have: >> On the 4th of January, which was Sunday after ?? , and on the 11th of the >> same month, which was the first Sunday after Epiphany, ... >> >> I would appreciate any help. >> >> Thanks. >> >> best, >> Paul >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So is this right: On the 4th of January, which was the Sunday after January 1, and on the 11th of the same month, which was the first Sunday after Epiphany, ? Paul On Déardaoin, 18 Lúnasa, 2011, at 12:49, Etienne Herrbach wrote: > Paul, > > as far as I know, the circumcision of Jesus was celebrated on January > 1st, i.e. 7 days after Christmas. > > Etienne > > > > Le 18 août 11 à 14:53, [email protected] a écrit : > >> I am having some trouble with a 1756 record. >> >> It says: >> Den 4ten Januar war Dom: p. Circumcisionem Christi, und den 11ten >> ejusd: Dom: I. p. Epiphania ... >> >> Here is what I have: >> On the 4th of January, which was Sunday after ?? , and on the 11th >> of the same month, which was the first Sunday after Epiphany, ... >> >> I would appreciate any help. >> >> Thanks. >> >> best, >> Paul > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Justin, For those interested in buying the CDs of Gerhard HEIN, I suggest to buy (for the same price) either the DVD instead the two CDs, because to navigate with the two CDs it is necessary to change the CD (this is not the case with the more recent DVD). Here what the CDs of Gerhard HEIN says about the family of Hans Jacob BRION: Hans Jacob BRION, Bürger (citizen), miller, Kirrberg (godfather in Görlingen 1710) son of Abraham BRION, Kirrberg m. 6 Feb 1706 Marion LONG/JOING in Diedendorf, daughter of Jean LONG/JOING, "Hofmann des Herrn Von LAUENSTEIN" (man at the court of the nobleman Von LAUENSTEIN) in Diedendorf. She was godmother in 1709. Children: 1. Peter Paul BRION b. 14 Nov 1706 2. Abraham b. 31 Oct 1708 3. Abraham b. 8 Jan 1710 4. Johann Jacob b. 31 Jul 1712 5. Anna Catharina b. 24 Feb 1715 6. Maria Magdalena b. 1 Jan 1718 7. Anna Margaretha b. 9 Mar 1721 8. Johann Franz b. 6 Feb 1727 Just a short information: the castel of Diedendorf, property of the old family Von LAUENSTEIN still exists in Diedendorf (see the site http://www.chateau-de-diedendorf.com/) Hope this helps Ewald -------------------------------------------------- From: "Justin Houser" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 5:28 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [A-L] Greetings / Questions concerningKirrberg/Diedendorf/Rauwiller parishes > Good morning, listmembers, > >..................................... > One of my main family lines is Brion/Breon. My 8th-great-grandparents, > Hans > Jacob and Maria (Jouin) Brion, were from Kirrberg, Bas-Rhin department, > were > married in the Diedendorf Reformed Church in 1706, and baptized a number > of > their children there between 1706 and 1727. Many of these children came > to > Pennsylvania on the ship "Lydia" in 1741. Over the years I've obtained > various information on this family, from Annette Kunselman Burgert's book > on > 18th century immigrants from Alsace (which I have), as well as > genealogical > postings on the Internet and miscellaneous photocopies of material sent to > me by various individuals. (These documents have traced the lineage to > one > Peter Brion, born ca. 1590, who had a son Jacob Brion, born in Burbach in > 1619.) I also have a very thick paperback book, with a blue cover I > believe > (it is currently stored away) on the history of Kirrberg, which is written > all in German. At least three distant cousins have visited the Kirrberg > and > Diedendorf area, and have made contact with some of the family still > living there, and have sent back pictures. It is a trip that I also hope > to > make at some point. > > Recently, I was contacted by a Lucy Battersby, who descends from a > different > Brion who immigrated at a much later date from Kirrberg and settled in the > Mid-West. She told me about this list. As I was attempting to piece > together her connection to our Brion family, I discovered that the > Bas-Rhin > archives have placed their parish and civil records online, a fact > probably > well-known to most on this list. I am greatly enjoying going through the > old Diedendorf parish registers, finding many, many records of Brions, > Jouins, and their kin who were baptized, sponsored baptisms, etc., etc. > But > this leads me to a few questions: > > 1. First, is there anyone else on the list who is researching these > families? If so, I'd love to hear from you! > > 2. Second, I notice that Brions from Kirrberg are listed in the Reformed > Church registers from Diedendorf (which begin in 1698) and also in the > Reformed Church registers from Rauwiller (which begin in 1723). I have > read > that the area was settled very early (16th century) by Protestant > Huguenots, > and that, at various times, church communities were closed/decimated. My > question is: Is the Reformed parish at Rauwiller a "daughter" parish to > the > one in Diedendorf? I'm trying to analogize to the situation I've > encountered in Eastern European research, which is, if you live in village > X, you attend church in village Y, and your baptisms, marriages, funerals, > are recorded in village Y 99.999% of the time, unless for some exceptional > reason you happen to be in village Z when an important life event happens. > Hence my question, can I analogize this properly to Reformed parishes in > the > Alsace? That is, if someone lives in Kirrberg, will they always go to the > parish which "covers" their village for ecclesiastical acts? If so, did > that change in 1723 or so for Kirrberg? Otherwise, why are Brions from > Kirrberg mentioned in both Diedendorf and Rauwiller records? Any > resources > which can help me understand the development of these parishes would be > very > much appreciated. .................................. > Justin Houser > Scranton, PA > --

Paul, as far as I know, the circumcision of Jesus was celebrated on January 1st, i.e. 7 days after Christmas. Etienne Le 18 août 11 à 14:53, [email protected] a écrit : > I am having some trouble with a 1756 record. > > It says: > Den 4ten Januar war Dom: p. Circumcisionem Christi, und den 11ten > ejusd: Dom: I. p. Epiphania ... > > Here is what I have: > On the 4th of January, which was Sunday after ?? , and on the 11th > of the same month, which was the first Sunday after Epiphany, ... > > I would appreciate any help. > > Thanks. > > best, > Paul

EWALD, Can you please tell me more about the Gerhard Hein DVD? I have not heard of them before. Where can they be purchased? Thanks, Sharon A Waechter -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm just guessing here, but "circumcission of the Christ". I'm not exactly familiar with this holy date. So off to Google I go ... Google says to go to wikipedia's article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feast_of_the_Circumcision_of_Christ This would have happened 8 days after his birth, which is celebrated on the 8th day of Christmas or January 1. Of course we can't really be sure December 25 is the right birthday. ;') Brian On Thu, August 18, 2011 7:53 am, [email protected] wrote: > I am having some trouble with a 1756 record. > > It says: > Den 4ten Januar war Dom: p. Circumcisionem Christi, und den 11ten ejusd: > Dom: I. p. Epiphania ... > > Here is what I have: > On the 4th of January, which was Sunday after ?? , and on the 11th of the > same month, which was the first Sunday after Epiphany, ... > > I would appreciate any help. > > Thanks. > > best, > Paul > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Walter... I searched for Latour on http://www.geopatronyme.com/ and found that there were Latour's living in Baase Ham, Moselle, between 1891-1915. Baase Ham is not that far from Blieskastel, so I thought it was worth mentioning. Good Luck Steve From: Walter Van Latture <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:05 PM Subject: [A-L] Latour Looking for Thomas Latour born c. 1655 and died in Hassloch (Haßloch) Germany in 1723.  He is listed as "living temporarily in Blieskastel" in 1696.  Someone wrote in a post this week that "many families in Alsace and Lorraine moved to the Pfalz following the Thirty Years War".  Thomas had a son named Johann who was born in Blieskastel in 1696 and a son named Hermann who was born about 1700.  Hermann's name was spelled  LaTur several times in the German records, I presume to preserve the pronunciation. I'm interested in Thomas Latour's birthplace and any relatives.  I send this about every three years.  Hope all of you are well.  This is a great list. Van Latture Franklin, TN USA -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am having some trouble with a 1756 record. It says: Den 4ten Januar war Dom: p. Circumcisionem Christi, und den 11ten ejusd: Dom: I. p. Epiphania ... Here is what I have: On the 4th of January, which was Sunday after ?? , and on the 11th of the same month, which was the first Sunday after Epiphany, ... I would appreciate any help. Thanks. best, Paul

To quote Homer Simpson: D'oh! I should have seen that. Thanks. Paul On Dé Céadaoin, 17 Lúnasa, 2011, at 18:25, [email protected] wrote: > On the 8th and 15th of November, which were the 23rd and 24th Sunday after > Trinity. The Book of Common Prayers has a table in it whereby you can > calculate these dates. There are also several online, but since the text > has already done that or you, there is no need here. > > 8 November = 23rd Sunday after Trinity and > 15 November = 24th Sunday after Trinity. > > Hope that clears that up. > > Brian > > On Wed, August 17, 2011 5:26 pm, [email protected] wrote: >> I am having trouble understanding some text: >> >>>> Den 8. u. 15 Novembr war Dnica xxiii und xxiv. Trinit. >>>> >> It seems to say: >> >> On the 8th and 15th of November, which were Sunday 23 and the 24th of >> Trinity, >> >> --- >> >> The dates here do not make sense. The written text is clear, so I do not >> think it is a reading error. >> >> Thanks. >> >> best, >> Paul >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for Thomas Latour born c. 1655 and died in Hassloch (Haßloch) Germany in 1723. He is listed as "living temporarily in Blieskastel" in 1696. Someone wrote in a post this week that "many families in Alsace and Lorraine moved to the Pfalz following the Thirty Years War". Thomas had a son named Johann who was born in Blieskastel in 1696 and a son named Hermann who was born about 1700. Hermann's name was spelled LaTur several times in the German records, I presume to preserve the pronunciation. I'm interested in Thomas Latour's birthplace and any relatives. I send this about every three years. Hope all of you are well. This is a great list. Van Latture Franklin, TN USA

Oberrathsamhausen is part of Baldenheim source: book "Das Reichsland Elsaß-Lothringen", Strasbourg 1901-1903 Ewald -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:10 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [A-L] Oberrathsamhausen, Baldenheim > I have a relative who was supposedly born in Oberrathsamhausen, near > Baldenheim, but I cannot find Oberrathsamhausen (or even Rathsamhausen) at > http://etat-civil.bas-rhin.fr/adeloch/index.php > > Can anyone help me with this? > > Thanks. > > best, > Paul > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Paul, The "Paroisse protestante Saint-Thomas" of Strasbourg is listed for the time period 1551-1792 Ewald -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:29 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [A-L] St Thomas, Strasbourg, Alsace > I have a note that says a relative died in 1684 in "St Thomas, Strasbourg, > Alsace". > > Not sure whether she was Catholic or Protestant, although all later > relatives of ours in the Alsace were Protestant. > > I cannot find a St Thomas parish in the Strasbourg listing in > http://etat-civil.bas-rhin.fr/adeloch/index.php > > Am I missing something? > > Thanks. > > best, > Paul > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On a side note, The 24th Sunday after Trinity is the last numbered day "after Trinity". Given the date Nov 15, this would indicate 25 Sundays from Easter, and Easter occurring on 30 March. The next Sunday would have been the "Sunday Next Before Advent". Bleech, what a mess of a day title. That one would have been a real puzzle for some. Brian On Wed, August 17, 2011 5:26 pm, [email protected] wrote: > I am having trouble understanding some text: > >>> Den 8. u. 15 Novembr war Dnica xxiii und xxiv. Trinit. >>> > It seems to say: > > On the 8th and 15th of November, which were Sunday 23 and the 24th of > Trinity, > ...

On the 8th and 15th of November, which were the 23rd and 24th Sunday after Trinity. The Book of Common Prayers has a table in it whereby you can calculate these dates. There are also several online, but since the text has already done that or you, there is no need here. 8 November = 23rd Sunday after Trinity and 15 November = 24th Sunday after Trinity. Hope that clears that up. Brian On Wed, August 17, 2011 5:26 pm, [email protected] wrote: > I am having trouble understanding some text: > >>> Den 8. u. 15 Novembr war Dnica xxiii und xxiv. Trinit. >>> > It seems to say: > > On the 8th and 15th of November, which were Sunday 23 and the 24th of > Trinity, > > --- > > The dates here do not make sense. The written text is clear, so I do not > think it is a reading error. > > Thanks. > > best, > Paul > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I am having trouble understanding some text: >> Den 8. u. 15 Novembr war Dnica xxiii und xxiv. Trinit. >> It seems to say: On the 8th and 15th of November, which were Sunday 23 and the 24th of Trinity, --- The dates here do not make sense. The written text is clear, so I do not think it is a reading error. Thanks. best, Paul

Ok, well, I searched in Baldenheim for David Uhland, born (supposedly 23.9.1707). But he is not there. I searched also Muttersholtz, where his wife came from. And there he was... Tá an t-adh orm inniu. Paul On Dé Céadaoin, 17 Lúnasa, 2011, at 12:07, Ewald K. wrote: > Oberrathsamhausen is part of Baldenheim > source: book "Das Reichsland Elsaß-Lothringen", Strasbourg 1901-1903 > > Ewald > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:10 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [A-L] Oberrathsamhausen, Baldenheim > >> I have a relative who was supposedly born in Oberrathsamhausen, near >> Baldenheim, but I cannot find Oberrathsamhausen (or even Rathsamhausen) at >> http://etat-civil.bas-rhin.fr/adeloch/index.php >> >> Can anyone help me with this? >> >> Thanks. >> >> best, >> Paul >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh, I see it now. Thank you. Paul On Dé Céadaoin, 17 Lúnasa, 2011, at 11:56, Ewald K. wrote: > Hi Paul, > > The "Paroisse protestante Saint-Thomas" of Strasbourg is listed for the time > period 1551-1792 > > Ewald > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:29 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [A-L] St Thomas, Strasbourg, Alsace > >> I have a note that says a relative died in 1684 in "St Thomas, Strasbourg, >> Alsace". >> >> Not sure whether she was Catholic or Protestant, although all later >> relatives of ours in the Alsace were Protestant. >> >> I cannot find a St Thomas parish in the Strasbourg listing in >> http://etat-civil.bas-rhin.fr/adeloch/index.php >> >> Am I missing something? >> >> Thanks. >> >> best, >> Paul >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a note that says a relative died in 1684 in "St Thomas, Strasbourg, Alsace". Not sure whether she was Catholic or Protestant, although all later relatives of ours in the Alsace were Protestant. I cannot find a St Thomas parish in the Strasbourg listing in http://etat-civil.bas-rhin.fr/adeloch/index.php Am I missing something? Thanks. best, Paul

I have a relative who was supposedly born in Oberrathsamhausen, near Baldenheim, but I cannot find Oberrathsamhausen (or even Rathsamhausen) at http://etat-civil.bas-rhin.fr/adeloch/index.php Can anyone help me with this? Thanks. best, Paul

Thank you Cari! This information sounds exactly like what I am looking for. Once I have the DVD I can (hopefully) pull up, say, Kirrberg, find all the Brions with the relevant dates, and then look up the records in the online parish books at the Bas-Rhin archives site, obtaining further information such as the names of the godparents, occupations, etc., etc. Heretofore I've been reading the old handwritten German registers page-by-page, but if I have the Hein CD, it should serve as a sort of index, making this work much easier. I'm not in a position to order this CD/DVD yet, but should be within a few months. When I receive it I'll certainly report back to the list to explain exactly what it contains and how it works, if someone hasn't done so already. I always believe in sharing the results of my experience after soliciting help from a forum such as this, so that we can all continue to learn. The information previously shared here -- that French Huguenots came into the Krumme Alsace area after 1559 or so -- helps explain the prevalence of some of my ancestral surnames Brion, Jouin, etc. I know that some DNA analysis of Brions has been undertaken, so perhaps it will match with contemporary Brions further west in France (perhaps non-Huguenout relatives who remained in the original location?) and we can figure out the origins of our lineage still further back in time. *Thank you*, and to everyone, who has responded so helpfully and so generously to my first request for information! This is a *great* list! Justin On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Carolyn J Thomas <[email protected]>wrote: > >Title Familienb?cher Krummes Elsa? > >Authors Hein, Gerhard (Main Author) Barth, Johann Heinrich (Added > Author) > >Notes Titel vom Bildschirm. Systemvoraussetzungen: gebraucht Adobe > Acrobat Reader. Familienb?cher von Gerhard Hein ; Register von Johann > Heinrich Barth. Excerpts from 68 genealogical publications pertaining to the > region of Alsace-Lorraine, France (now, Bas-Rhin and Haut-Rhin > departments). It was formerly called Elsa?-Lothringen, Germany. Particular > emphasis is given to the former counties of Nassau-Saarwerden and > Lützelstein. Includes extensive index to the publications. > ---------------------- > > Hi Justin and Listers, > > With all the info being posted on the Hein CD/DVDs, I thought I’d share > some info I accessed via the LDS microfilmed versions of the Hein books. I > photocopied my relevant pages from LDS film 1761446 which included: Items 1) > Burbach mit Gerichtsbuch des Joerg Erhardt; 2) Sieweiler, 3) Wolfskirchen, > 4) Ottweiler, 5) Kirberg, 6, Berg und Thal, 7) Buetten, 8) Drulingen [and] > 9) Schoepperton. > > Each village is treated separately: Wolfskirchen is Band/volume 21; > Schoepperton Band 31. Here are the first two paragraphs of Dr. Hein’s > introduction to Wolfskirchen: > “Da Krumme Elsass finde ich – wei kann es anders sein – faszinierend. > Einer der interessantesten Orte is Wolfskirchen: dreigeteilt nassauisch, > vinstingisch und rixingisch (im Jahre 1762 kaufte der Graf von Saarbruecken > die rixingischen Untertanen), mit drei verschieden Regelungen fuer die > verschiedenen Einwohner. Man stelle sich die Familienbeziehungen vor! > Da das lutherische Kirchenbuch nur eine Kopie ist, lassen sich anhand > der Taufpaten nicht so umfangreich die Beziehungen nach auswaerts > darstellen, aber die umliegenden Orte werde ich auch noch beschreiben so > dass von dort aus die Beziehungen festzustellen sein werden.” there are 3 > more paragraphs; and the intro was written in August 1979 from his home in > Koeln, NRW. > A suggestion for those not literate in German: copy and paste the > paragraphs in one of the translation sites to see what Dr. Hein wrote. > > He includes a nice hand-drawn (his work?) map of the village and > surroundings, and 2 pages, at least, of Abkuerzungen/abbreviations with > entries such as B.= Buerger, TP = Taufpate, o = Tag der Geburt, oder Tag der > Taufe, c. = cKonfirmirt, cv. = convertiert, and other abbreviations, some > of which may be Dr. Hein’ personal abbreviations. [ALWAYS look for and copy > this page when you copy any other pages of abstracted records!] And as John > Reeb’s letter in a prior posting stated: “... however, international > genealogical symbols are used; therefore with a little effort almost anyone > should be able to read them with few if any problems.” Of course you need to > learn those symbols to avoid the problems! [oo = married, oo = married, + = > died, etc.] I’ve also eliminated all umlauts, changing them to ae, oe, or > ue. > > Here, parts of two contents pages I’d photocopied from this film: > Inhaltsverzeichnis: > Die Familien in Wolfskirchen: > a. Die Stammfamilien - 1–26 > b. Die Einzelfamilien - 26-31 > c. Der Familienanhang - 31-32 > Die Vinstinger Familien > a. Die Stammfamilien - 33-41 > b. Der Familienanhang - 41-42 > Die Einwohner von Wolfkirchen nach den evangelischen > Kirchenbuechern des 18.Jahrhunderts und den > Notariatsakten von Sarreunion - 42-139 > Tabell des Dorfs Bannes und Zugehoers WOLFKIRCHEN 1742 – 140-155 > Die Einwohner von Wolfskirchen, aufgeschluesselt nach Berufen – 156-165 > Der RheingrafschaftGefell und taxlich Nutzungen 1543 > Vinstingen und Diemeringen,Dehlingen, Buetten - 166 > ------The remainder of this page covers pages 167-184------- > > Inhaltsverzeichnis II: > Schaff – Zettel von Bettingen im Jahre 1592 – 184 > Schaff – Zettel von Bockenheim im Jahre 1592 – 184 > Geroldsecker Schaff – Zettel 1592 - 184-185 > Schaff – Zettel von Postorf im Jahre 1592 – 185 > Schaff – Zettel von Rummelfingen im Jahre 1592 – 185 > Schaff – Zettel von Bettborn im Jahre 1592 – 185 > Schaff – Zettel von Kirberg im Jahre 1592 – 185 > Schaff – Zettel von Wolfskirchen im Jahre 1592 – 185 > ------Eleven more listing similar to these, on pages 186-190-------- > Schaff – Zettel von Wolfskirken 1595 und Bemerkungen – 191 > Mordporzess in Vinstingen am 27.4.1637 - 192 > Die Buerger der Herrschaft Vinstingen im 16.Jahrhundert > a. Vinstingen - 193-196 > -----------Four more locations, found on pages 196-198------------- > f. Wolfkirchen - 198 > g. Wiebersweiler - 198-199 > Bisher erschienene Arbeiten zum gleichen Thema > von Dr. Gerhard Hein - IV. > Benutzte Abkuerzungen (auf der letzten Seite) - 200 > > AND, here’s a sample of ONE of the Stammfamilien of Wolfskirchen: > MUELLER, Johann Jacob o 20.1.1739, V: Peter, oo Margaretha KLEIN, V: > Moritz, Stinzel > K: 1. Maria Elisabetha o 1.1.1769. > 2. Catharina o 4.10.1772. > 3. Henrich o 13.7.1774. > 4. Jacob o 2.12.1776. > 5. Philipp o 17.7.1781. > > The top line says Joh.Jacob MUELLER, was born [or baptized] the 20th of > January 1739; his father/Vater was Peter. Joh. Jacob married Margaretha > KLEIN, whose father was Moritz KLEIN of Stinzel [Niederstinzel]. Joh. Jacob > and Margaretha had five children/Kinder, listed in birth/bapt order and with > the date of birth [or baptism.] > > For newbies, remember that European abbreviated dates are given dd/mm/yyyy. > Also remember that ANY transcription presents the possibility of error. > These HEIN books ARE transcriptions, which means you will want to access the > actual record, if at all possible. At least now you will know a record DID > exist! > > Hope this gives you an idea of what you MAY find on the CD/DVD; I don’t > know if those give you a transcription or the actual images from the HEIN > book. Perhaps someone who has one of those can let us know. This DOES give > you an idea of what you’ll find on the LDS microfilms: a filming of the > actual pages from the books. By the way, I believe that, excepting the > hand-drawn map, the remainder of the book is type-written. However I have > NOT seen all of the books, just those of my then-known ancestral villages. > > Best wishes for your research in the Gerhard HEIN books! > > Cari Thomas >