On 08/29/2011 12:05 AM, Charlie Sheridan wrote: > If anyone is researching the surnames in the villages listed below and would like a photo of that tombstone please e-mail me with the family name. > > Some monuments are dated late 18th or early 19th century while others have a 19th century date but the person was born in the 18th or early 19th century. > > I’ve come across few old tombstones in the villages visited and of those many have been eroded and unreadable. > > I also have photos of many 19th century headstones and if you are looking for a specific family in one of these villages I’ll take a look. > > Benfeld – GEORGER& KOPP; GEORGER; MARANDE; ROHMER; BLUMSTEIN; MERTIAN; STACKLER (3 monuments). > > Ebersmunster – HURSTEL (5 monuments); LORBER& MULLER; LOHNER (poor). > > Hilsenheim – ROHMER > > Huttenheim – RIEDWIG; EDEL; WILHELM. > > Kertzfeld – REIBEL, SCHMITT& KLEINDIENST (1 monument); SCHAUB& MEYER (1 monument). > > Kogenheim – ADOLPH, KRETZ& BAUR (1 monument). > > Direct all correspondence to me. > > Charlie > Homosassa, FL > > [email protected] > > > > I have Adoph ancestors in Ernolsheim-lès-Saverne.<http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=15752350&pid=339059035&eid=9088678777> Todd <http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=15752350&pid=339059035&eid=9088678777>

Hi Charlie- I don't need anything - just wanted to say hi. I've seen the names Georger/Joerger & Adolph/Adolf in the Siegen records. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Sheridan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:05 PM Subject: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin > If anyone is researching the surnames in the villages listed below and > would like a photo of that tombstone please e-mail me with the family > name. > > Some monuments are dated late 18th or early 19th century while others have > a 19th century date but the person was born in the 18th or early 19th > century. > > I’ve come across few old tombstones in the villages visited and of those > many have been eroded and unreadable. > > I also have photos of many 19th century headstones and if you are looking > for a specific family in one of these villages I’ll take a look. > > Benfeld – GEORGER & KOPP; GEORGER; MARANDE; ROHMER; BLUMSTEIN; MERTIAN; > STACKLER (3 monuments). > > Ebersmunster – HURSTEL (5 monuments); LORBER & MULLER; LOHNER (poor). > > Hilsenheim – ROHMER > > Huttenheim – RIEDWIG; EDEL; WILHELM. > > Kertzfeld – REIBEL, SCHMITT & KLEINDIENST (1 monument); SCHAUB & MEYER (1 > monument). > > Kogenheim – ADOLPH, KRETZ & BAUR (1 monument). > > Direct all correspondence to me. > > Charlie > Homosassa, FL > > [email protected] > > > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone tell me, what is the general condition of tombstones in Baldenheim, Muttersholz, Sundhausen and Boofzheim? My relatives' graves in those villages (if they are even still visible) are from before 1840. Thanks for any insight. best, Paul

If anyone is researching the surnames in the villages listed below and would like a photo of that tombstone please e-mail me with the family name. Some monuments are dated late 18th or early 19th century while others have a 19th century date but the person was born in the 18th or early 19th century. I’ve come across few old tombstones in the villages visited and of those many have been eroded and unreadable. I also have photos of many 19th century headstones and if you are looking for a specific family in one of these villages I’ll take a look. Benfeld – GEORGER & KOPP; GEORGER; MARANDE; ROHMER; BLUMSTEIN; MERTIAN; STACKLER (3 monuments). Ebersmunster – HURSTEL (5 monuments); LORBER & MULLER; LOHNER (poor). Hilsenheim – ROHMER Huttenheim – RIEDWIG; EDEL; WILHELM. Kertzfeld – REIBEL, SCHMITT & KLEINDIENST (1 monument); SCHAUB & MEYER (1 monument). Kogenheim – ADOLPH, KRETZ & BAUR (1 monument). Direct all correspondence to me. Charlie Homosassa, FL [email protected]

HI Listers, Robert Behra kindly shared: >The best single place to start is >http://fr.geneawiki.com/index.php/Archives_en_ligne for finding current status and links to French Archives online. Here are two more options, both of which present maps of France, with hot-linked départements, for those of us who do better at visualizations: http://geneinfos.typepad.fr/geneinfos/nouvelle_carte.html http://www.francegenweb.org/~archives/archivesgenweb/?id=carte The geneinfos website map, is hot-linked directly to the online archive! The francegenweb map will take you to a listing of that département's archives, and the progress they're making. DOUG: For Bas-Rhin archives, I just remember the database name ADELOCH; that, plus Bas-Rhin, in a google search will give me the entry page, no matter where I am or what computer I'm using. . Cari Thomas

The best single place to start is http://fr.geneawiki.com/index.php/Archives_en_ligne It lists each department in France and lets you know whether they have online records, provides links to those that do. Very useful. Highly recommended. Robert Behra -----Original Message----- From: Doug Kleitz <[email protected]> To: ALSACE-LORRAINE <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 3:47 pm Subject: [A-L] website Looking for the website that has the birth and death records for Alsace, frande and such, used to have it, but no such luck after computer blow up, any help would be great -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for the website that has the birth and death records for Alsace, frande and such, used to have it, but no such luck after computer blow up, any help would be great

Here is a note from the transcriber: The month was hidden in the tight binding, but I have a book with a table showing when all the church liturgical days occurred for a given year. I looked up the 20th Sunday of Trinity 1733, and it fell on the 18th of October. Sorry I didn't cite my source: The Comprehensive Genealogical Feast Day Calendar, compiled by Bukke, Kristensen and Thomsen, published by Thomsen's Genealogical Center, PO Box 588, Bountiful, Utah 84010. Paul On Dé Sathairn, 20 Lúnasa, 2011, at 05:52, Etienne Herrbach wrote: > Paul, > > the pastor forgot the word "post" associated to Trinitatis. See the > record on the previous page (# 70). > > In 1733, Trinitatis Sunday was 31 May. > > For old calendar issues in Germanic areas, see the famous "Grotefend". > On line: http://www.manuscripta-mediaevalia.de/gaeste/grotefend/grotefend.htm > > Etienne > > > Le 19 août 11 à 19:49, [email protected] a écrit : > >> Then I am not sure how to make sense of this 1733 record. >> >> Here it is, if you want to see it: >> https://public.me.com/uaine >> >> Paul >> >> On Dé hAoine, 19 Lúnasa, 2011, at 10:17, Etienne Herrbach wrote: >> >>> Paul, >>> >>> another remark: as far as I know, Trinity is usually celebrated on >>> the >>> 8th Sunday after Easter, i.e. in May-June, not in October. >>> >>> Etienne >>> >>> >>> >>> Le 19 août 11 à 14:36, [email protected] a écrit : >>> >>>> I am trying to understand what this means: >>>> >>>> christl. u. ehrl. >>>> >>>> Would it be: >>>> "In a Christian and honorable manner" >>>> >>>>> Death record: >>>>> >>>>> 72 ... 1733 >>>>> Domin: xx. Trinit: alß den 18ten ... abends zwischen 9. u. 10. uhr >>>>> starb Johannes Stahl bürger u weber alh[ir] seines alters ohngefehr >>>>> 63 Jahr un[d] wurde folgenden dienstag darauff christl. u. ehrl. >>>>> zur erden bestat[tet]. >>>>> Test. Joh. Jacob >>>>> Lohrer Pfr. >>>>> >>>>> 72 ... 1733 >>>>> Sunday 20th day of Trinity: On the 18th (must be October 1733) ... >>>>> evening between 9 and 10 died Johannes Stahl citizen and weaver >>>>> here, his age 63 years and was buried the following Tuesday >>>>> christl. u. ehrl. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine- >>> L.htm >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks. Here is a note from the transcriber: The month was hidden in the tight binding, but I have a book with a table showing when all the church liturgical days occurred for a given year. I looked up the 20th Sunday of Trinity 1733, and it fell on the 18th of October. Sorry I didn't cite my source: The Comprehensive Genealogical Feast Day Calendar, compiled by Bukke, Kristensen and Thomsen, published by Thomsen's Genealogical Center, PO Box 588, Bountiful, Utah 84010. Paul On Dé hAoine, 19 Lúnasa, 2011, at 10:54, Marsha Ensminger wrote: > The reference is probably to the 20th Sunday "in", "of", or "after" Trinity. If I remember correctly, the church season known as Trinity begins after Pentecost and lasts until Advent begins, which would include October. > > Marsha L. Ensminger > > > --- On Fri, 8/19/11, Etienne Herrbach <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Etienne Herrbach <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [A-L] christl. u. ehrl. -- Trinity >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 10:17 AM >> Paul, >> >> another remark: as far as I know, Trinity is usually >> celebrated on the >> 8th Sunday after Easter, i.e. in May-June, not in October. >> >> Etienne >> >> >> >> Le 19 août 11 à 14:36, [email protected] a >> écrit : >> >>> I am trying to understand what this means: >>> >>> christl. u. ehrl. >>> >>> Would it be: >>> "In a Christian and honorable manner" >>> >>>> Death record: >>>> >>>> 72 ... 1733 >>>> Domin: xx. Trinit: alß den 18ten ... abends >> zwischen 9. u. 10. uhr >>>> starb Johannes Stahl bürger u weber alh[ir] >> seines alters ohngefehr >>>> 63 Jahr un[d] wurde folgenden dienstag darauff >> christl. u. ehrl. >>>> zur erden bestat[tet]. >>>> Test. Joh. Jacob >>>> Lohrer Pfr. >>>> >>>> 72 ... 1733 >>>> Sunday 20th day of Trinity: On the 18th (must be >> October 1733) ... >>>> evening between 9 and 10 died Johannes Stahl >> citizen and weaver >>>> here, his age 63 years and was buried the >> following Tuesday >>>> christl. u. ehrl. >> >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Re: Das krumme Elsass DVD question and cautionHi Carolyn, I have the two CDs "Das krumme Elsaß", but no the DVD. The CDs contain scans of the originals (a complete set of Gerhard HEIN's booklets are available at the Archives Départementales in Strasbourg). To read the CDs it is necessary to use a reader of PDF documents, like Adobe Reader. The greatest reason to find errors in the booklets/CD/DVD is due to Gerhard HEIN himself who has made certainly errors of reading the original records. I have found such errors in Gerhard HEIN's transcriptions. As an amateur genealogist don't forget: l'erreur est humaine = to err is human = errare humanum est! Ewald From: Carolyn J Thomas Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:22 PM To: [email protected] ; ALSACE-LORRAINE-D mailing list Subject: Re: Das krumme Elsass DVD question and caution >Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 22:07:45 +0200 >From: "Ewald K." <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [A-L] Greetings /Questions concerningKirrberg/Diedendorf/Rauwiller parishes >Hi Sharon, >The DVD "Das krumme Elsa?" with the compilations of records made by Gerhard HEIN for villages located in Bas-Rhin (Alsace), in the area called "Das krumme Elsass": Hi Ewald, With your knowledge of this DVD: does it show the original format of Dr. Hein's books, ie., does it have scans of the originals? Or have they transcribed [adding the possibility of additional transcription error] the book, creating a completely new version of the original? Typing that question leads me to mention to listers, that the original Hein books ARE transcriptions, with the information most likely transcribed at least twice. Researchers must bear possible transcription error in mind when using the books/DVD. Thanks, Cari Thomas

Paul, the pastor forgot the word "post" associated to Trinitatis. See the record on the previous page (# 70). In 1733, Trinitatis Sunday was 31 May. For old calendar issues in Germanic areas, see the famous "Grotefend". On line: http://www.manuscripta-mediaevalia.de/gaeste/grotefend/grotefend.htm Etienne Le 19 août 11 à 19:49, [email protected] a écrit : > Then I am not sure how to make sense of this 1733 record. > > Here it is, if you want to see it: > https://public.me.com/uaine > > Paul > > On Dé hAoine, 19 Lúnasa, 2011, at 10:17, Etienne Herrbach wrote: > >> Paul, >> >> another remark: as far as I know, Trinity is usually celebrated on >> the >> 8th Sunday after Easter, i.e. in May-June, not in October. >> >> Etienne >> >> >> >> Le 19 août 11 à 14:36, [email protected] a écrit : >> >>> I am trying to understand what this means: >>> >>> christl. u. ehrl. >>> >>> Would it be: >>> "In a Christian and honorable manner" >>> >>>> Death record: >>>> >>>> 72 ... 1733 >>>> Domin: xx. Trinit: alß den 18ten ... abends zwischen 9. u. 10. uhr >>>> starb Johannes Stahl bürger u weber alh[ir] seines alters ohngefehr >>>> 63 Jahr un[d] wurde folgenden dienstag darauff christl. u. ehrl. >>>> zur erden bestat[tet]. >>>> Test. Joh. Jacob >>>> Lohrer Pfr. >>>> >>>> 72 ... 1733 >>>> Sunday 20th day of Trinity: On the 18th (must be October 1733) ... >>>> evening between 9 and 10 died Johannes Stahl citizen and weaver >>>> here, his age 63 years and was buried the following Tuesday >>>> christl. u. ehrl. >> >> >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine- >> L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

>Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 22:07:45 +0200 >From: "Ewald K." <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [A-L] Greetings /Questions concerningKirrberg/Diedendorf/Rauwiller parishes >Hi Sharon, >The DVD "Das krumme Elsa?" with the compilations of records made by Gerhard HEIN for villages located in Bas-Rhin (Alsace), in the area called "Das krumme Elsass": Hi Ewald, With your knowledge of this DVD: does it show the original format of Dr. Hein¹s books, ie., does it have scans of the originals? Or have they transcribed [adding the possibility of additional transcription error] the book, creating a completely new version of the original? Typing that question leads me to mention to listers, that the original Hein books ARE transcriptions, with the information most likely transcribed at least twice. Researchers must bear possible transcription error in mind when using the books/DVD. Thanks, Cari Thomas

Hi Sharon, The DVD "Das krumme Elsaß" with the compilations of records made by Gerhard HEIN for villages located in Bas-Rhin (Alsace), in the area called "Das krumme Elsaß": Publisher: Dr. Gerhard Hein / Johann Heinrich Barth Format: DVD System-specifications: a) Windows: Windows Vista Ultimate, Business, Home (SP 1);  800 MHz; 512 MB RAM; DVD player Windows XP Professional, Home Edition (SP 3); Pentium III; 700MHz; 256MB RAM; DVD player b) Mac: Mac OS X 10.5; PowerPC G4 (867MHz+), Power PC G5, Intel-basierter Mac; 512MB RAM; DVD player, Mac OS X 10.4.11; PowerPC G4, G5 or Intel-basierter Mac; 256 MB RAM; DVD player The DVD can be bought by letter, phone, fax or email (no online shop available at this time) at: http://www.gen-roms.de/Produkte/GeneaCD/Elsass.html (click on "Bestellen" at the bottom of the above website) Bestellnummer/order: 4100w (Windows) 4100m (Macintosh) Price 50 euros, plus shipping (minimum 17 euros to a foreign country, outside of Germany). Contact: Johann Heinrich Barth Schillerstr. 12 D-46047 Oberhausen Germany Tel: (+49)208 / 86 34 96 Fax: (+49)208 / 86 34 31 address mail: [email protected] All the best from Alsace Ewald -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sharon Waechter" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 1:18 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [A-L] Greetings /QuestionsconcerningKirrberg/Diedendorf/Rauwillerparishes > EWALD, > > Can you please tell me more about the Gerhard Hein DVD? I have not heard > of them before. Where can they be purchased? > > Thanks, > > Sharon A Waechter >

Paul, another remark: as far as I know, Trinity is usually celebrated on the 8th Sunday after Easter, i.e. in May-June, not in October. Etienne Le 19 août 11 à 14:36, [email protected] a écrit : > I am trying to understand what this means: > > christl. u. ehrl. > > Would it be: > "In a Christian and honorable manner" > >> Death record: >> >> 72 ... 1733 >> Domin: xx. Trinit: alß den 18ten ... abends zwischen 9. u. 10. uhr >> starb Johannes Stahl bürger u weber alh[ir] seines alters ohngefehr >> 63 Jahr un[d] wurde folgenden dienstag darauff christl. u. ehrl. >> zur erden bestat[tet]. >> Test. Joh. Jacob >> Lohrer Pfr. >> >> 72 ... 1733 >> Sunday 20th day of Trinity: On the 18th (must be October 1733) ... >> evening between 9 and 10 died Johannes Stahl citizen and weaver >> here, his age 63 years and was buried the following Tuesday >> christl. u. ehrl.

Yes Paul, it means indeed that he was buried according to a Christian and honorable manner. His age was "approximately" 63 (= ohngefehr, now ungefähr). Etienne Le 19 août 11 à 14:36, [email protected] a écrit : > I am trying to understand what this means: > > christl. u. ehrl. > > Would it be: > "In a Christian and honorable manner" > >> Death record: >> >> 72 ... 1733 >> Domin: xx. Trinit: alß den 18ten ... abends zwischen 9. u. 10. uhr >> starb Johannes Stahl bürger u weber alh[ir] seines alters ohngefehr >> 63 Jahr un[d] wurde folgenden dienstag darauff christl. u. ehrl. >> zur erden bestat[tet]. >> Test. Joh. Jacob >> Lohrer Pfr. >> >> 72 ... 1733 >> Sunday 20th day of Trinity: On the 18th (must be October 1733) ... >> evening between 9 and 10 died Johannes Stahl citizen and weaver >> here, his age 63 years and was buried the following Tuesday >> christl. u. ehrl.

Thank you! Sharon A Waechter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ewald K." <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 1:07:45 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Greetings /Questions concerningKirrberg/Diedendorf/Rauwiller parishes Hi Sharon, The DVD "Das krumme Elsaß" with the compilations of records made by Gerhard HEIN for villages located in Bas-Rhin (Alsace), in the area called "Das krumme Elsaß": Publisher: Dr. Gerhard Hein / Johann Heinrich Barth Format: DVD System-specifications: a) Windows: Windows Vista Ultimate, Business, Home (SP 1); 800 MHz; 512 MB RAM; DVD player Windows XP Professional, Home Edition (SP 3); Pentium III; 700MHz; 256MB RAM; DVD player b) Mac: Mac OS X 10.5; PowerPC G4 (867MHz+), Power PC G5, Intel-basierter Mac; 512MB RAM; DVD player, Mac OS X 10.4.11; PowerPC G4, G5 or Intel-basierter Mac; 256 MB RAM; DVD player The DVD can be bought by letter, phone, fax or email (no online shop available at this time) at: http://www.gen-roms.de/Produkte/GeneaCD/Elsass.html (click on "Bestellen" at the bottom of the above website) Bestellnummer/order: 4100w (Windows) 4100m (Macintosh) Price 50 euros, plus shipping (minimum 17 euros to a foreign country, outside of Germany). Contact: Johann Heinrich Barth Schillerstr. 12 D-46047 Oberhausen Germany Tel: (+49)208 / 86 34 96 Fax: (+49)208 / 86 34 31 address mail: [email protected] All the best from Alsace Ewald -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sharon Waechter" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 1:18 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [A-L] Greetings /QuestionsconcerningKirrberg/Diedendorf/Rauwillerparishes > EWALD, > > Can you please tell me more about the Gerhard Hein DVD? I have not heard > of them before. Where can they be purchased? > > Thanks, > > Sharon A Waechter > -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The reference is probably to the 20th Sunday "in", "of", or "after" Trinity. If I remember correctly, the church season known as Trinity begins after Pentecost and lasts until Advent begins, which would include October. Marsha L. Ensminger --- On Fri, 8/19/11, Etienne Herrbach <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Etienne Herrbach <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [A-L] christl. u. ehrl. -- Trinity > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 10:17 AM > Paul, > > another remark: as far as I know, Trinity is usually > celebrated on the  > 8th Sunday after Easter, i.e. in May-June, not in October. > > Etienne > > > > Le 19 août 11 à 14:36, [email protected] a > écrit : > > > I am trying to understand what this means: > > > > christl. u. ehrl. > > > > Would it be: > > "In a Christian and honorable manner" > > > >> Death record: > >> > >> 72 ... 1733 > >> Domin: xx. Trinit: alß den 18ten ... abends > zwischen 9. u. 10. uhr > >> starb Johannes Stahl bürger u weber alh[ir] > seines alters ohngefehr > >> 63 Jahr un[d] wurde folgenden dienstag darauff > christl. u. ehrl. > >> zur erden bestat[tet]. > >> Test. Joh. Jacob > >> Lohrer Pfr. > >> > >> 72 ... 1733 > >> Sunday 20th day of Trinity: On the 18th (must be > October 1733) ... > >> evening between 9 and 10 died Johannes Stahl > citizen and weaver > >> here, his age 63 years and was buried the > following Tuesday > >> christl. u. ehrl. > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm  > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Then I am not sure how to make sense of this 1733 record. Here it is, if you want to see it: https://public.me.com/uaine Paul On Dé hAoine, 19 Lúnasa, 2011, at 10:17, Etienne Herrbach wrote: > Paul, > > another remark: as far as I know, Trinity is usually celebrated on the > 8th Sunday after Easter, i.e. in May-June, not in October. > > Etienne > > > > Le 19 août 11 à 14:36, [email protected] a écrit : > >> I am trying to understand what this means: >> >> christl. u. ehrl. >> >> Would it be: >> "In a Christian and honorable manner" >> >>> Death record: >>> >>> 72 ... 1733 >>> Domin: xx. Trinit: alß den 18ten ... abends zwischen 9. u. 10. uhr >>> starb Johannes Stahl bürger u weber alh[ir] seines alters ohngefehr >>> 63 Jahr un[d] wurde folgenden dienstag darauff christl. u. ehrl. >>> zur erden bestat[tet]. >>> Test. Joh. Jacob >>> Lohrer Pfr. >>> >>> 72 ... 1733 >>> Sunday 20th day of Trinity: On the 18th (must be October 1733) ... >>> evening between 9 and 10 died Johannes Stahl citizen and weaver >>> here, his age 63 years and was buried the following Tuesday >>> christl. u. ehrl. > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Merci. Paul On Dé hAoine, 19 Lúnasa, 2011, at 10:00, Etienne Herrbach wrote: > Yes Paul, it means indeed that he was buried according to a Christian > and honorable manner. > > His age was "approximately" 63 (= ohngefehr, now ungefähr). > > Etienne > > > > Le 19 août 11 à 14:36, [email protected] a écrit : > >> I am trying to understand what this means: >> >> christl. u. ehrl. >> >> Would it be: >> "In a Christian and honorable manner" >> >>> Death record: >>> >>> 72 ... 1733 >>> Domin: xx. Trinit: alß den 18ten ... abends zwischen 9. u. 10. uhr >>> starb Johannes Stahl bürger u weber alh[ir] seines alters ohngefehr >>> 63 Jahr un[d] wurde folgenden dienstag darauff christl. u. ehrl. >>> zur erden bestat[tet]. >>> Test. Joh. Jacob >>> Lohrer Pfr. >>> >>> 72 ... 1733 >>> Sunday 20th day of Trinity: On the 18th (must be October 1733) ... >>> evening between 9 and 10 died Johannes Stahl citizen and weaver >>> here, his age 63 years and was buried the following Tuesday >>> christl. u. ehrl. > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to understand what this means: christl. u. ehrl. Would it be: "In a Christian and honorable manner" > Death record: > > 72 ... 1733 > Domin: xx. Trinit: alß den 18ten ... abends zwischen 9. u. 10. uhr starb Johannes Stahl bürger u weber alh[ir] seines alters ohngefehr 63 Jahr un[d] wurde folgenden dienstag darauff christl. u. ehrl. zur erden bestat[tet]. > Test. Joh. Jacob > Lohrer Pfr. > > 72 ... 1733 > Sunday 20th day of Trinity: On the 18th (must be October 1733) ... evening between 9 and 10 died Johannes Stahl citizen and weaver here, his age 63 years and was buried the following Tuesday christl. u. ehrl.