Hello, I found a death record which I would really appreciate a translation on if at all possible. It is in Habsheim, Décès, 1817-1862 on page 292 and is record #7. It is for a Andre Bernard Vital Kolb who apparently died due to injuries in the army although I’m not quite sure. I would like to know if it mentions if his mother is still alive. She would me Marie Sophie Baumann. Whatever information can be translating would be appreciated as I can’t make out the death date and it appears he was wounded in the war or soemthing like that. Thank you for your help, Scott Baumann

Carolyn, without knowing the birth place of Frederick KOCH, it will be very uneasy to find info, especially as the name KOCH is pretty frequent. Is there no info to be found in your country? Etienne Le 16 sept. 12 à 21:36, Carolyn Burt a écrit : > Cook/Koch en Anglais/Francais > > My great-great Grandfather Frederick Cook/Koch was born in Alsace/ > Loraine > part of France in July 18, 1821. He arrived in America about 1844 > naturalization papers show, and the US Census shows him married to > Walburg > Baker Koch with a son, Frederick F. , born in 1851 and daughter, > Rachel, > born about 1856. He died December 5, 1902. The family oral story is > that > Frederick Sr. was married in France and his wife died. He was so > despondent, he went down by the water and was hit over the head, taken > aboard a ship which was headed to America. He landed in New York > and stayed > there. It is not known when or where he met Walburg. We just found > his > death certificate and his father’s name was Jacob Koch from France. > We are > hoping there is a family of Jacob Koch who is missing Frederick, who > don’t > know what became of him. They may have his birth, but not death. I > would > love to find my French ancestors. > > > > Mon arrière-grand-père Frederick Cook / Koch est né en Alsace / > Lorraine à > la France en Juillet 18, 1821. Il est arrivé en Amérique sur les > papiers de > naturalisation 1844 spectacle, et le recensement américain lui > montre marié > à Walburg Baker Koch avec un fils, Frederick F., né en 1851 et sa > fille, > Rachel, née vers 1856. Il est mort Décembre 5, 1902. L'histoire de la > famille par voie orale est que Frédéric Sr. était marié en France et > sa > femme est morte. Il était tellement abattu, il descendit par l'eau > et a été > frappé à la tête, pris à bord d'un navire qui se dirigeait vers > l'Amérique. > Il débarque à New York et y est resté. On ne sait pas quand, ni où > il a > rencontré Walburg. On vient de trouver son certificat de décès et le > nom de > son père était Jacob Koch de la France. Nous espérons qu'il y est une > famille de Jacob Koch qui est absent Frédéric, qui ne sait pas ce > qu'il est > devenu. Ils peuvent avoir des sa naissance, mais pas la mort. > J'aimerais > retrouver mes ancêtres français > > Carolyn Burt, M.Ed. > Owner, > Proctor Art Gallery,LLC

Hello Scott, Death record No 12, Bollwiller 29 April 1892 Ferdinand Paul HENRY declarant: Paul ZURLINDEN, Rentner = pensioner, residing Bollwiller, Feldkirchergasse = Feldkirch street death of Ferdinand Paul HENRY, Artz = doctor (in medicine), aged 28 y 7 m, Catholic, residing Giromagny, France [in the "Territoire de Belfort", former part of Alsace that remained French when Alsace was annexed to Germany 1871] born Giromagny, husband of Bertha ZURLINDEN, without occupation, residing Giromagny son of the owner Anton HENRY ans his wife Josephine FUCHS, both dead and residing Giromagny died 29 April Bollwiller, in the house of the declarant, 6 am Etienne Le 22 sept. 12 à 06:42, Scotty B. a écrit : > Hello, > I found a grave in my family plot while in Bollwiller this past > weekend and I have looked up this record for death in the online > records. > Bollwiller, Décès, 1883-1892 and on page 166 is a death record for > a Paul Henry who apparently died April 29, and is record # 12. > > Could someone who reads German please tell me what information is on > this document. I wonder why he is buried in my family plot and would > like to know if there is a connection with the family. > > thank you, > Scott Baumann

Hello, I found a grave in my family plot while in Bollwiller this past weekend and I have looked up this record for death in the online records. Bollwiller, Décès, 1883-1892 and on page 166 is a death record for a Paul Henry who apparently died April 29, and is record # 12. Could someone who reads German please tell me what information is on this document. I wonder why he is buried in my family plot and would like to know if there is a connection with the family. thank you, Scott Baumann

Hi Christopher, According to the site http://castlegarden.org/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=7739221 << A. (Adolph?) EBERLE >> born in Germany, last residence Wurtemberg (Germany), departed from Antwerp (Germany) aboard the ship Waesland and arrived to New-York 14 May 1885, 18 years old (born in 1867), destination New-York Similar names: HEBERLE, HAEBERLE, ABERLE, HABERLE All the best from Alsace Ewald -------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris H" <castletownbere@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:49 PM To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com>; <GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com>; <GERMAN-EMIGRANTS@rootsweb.com> Subject: [A-L] ADOLPH ABERLE (b. 1867) > I'm searching for any information or direction in finding the father of > ADOLPH ABERLE who was born in 1867 in Germany according to US Census > records and came to the US in 1888. Some members of the family think that > the ancestors are from Alsace-Lorraine. I don't know how to find > passenger > lists for Germany or if there would be any area of Germany that would be > more likely to have an ABERLE (maybe EBERLE?) family if anyone can help. > The details I have on this ancestor are below. > > Any help is appreciated. Thanks! > > Christopher Harrington > castletownbere@gmail.com > > Father: Unknown Aberle (born mid-1800s?) > Mother: Unknown Unknown > > ADOLPH ABERLE > > Birth: Dec 1867 in Germany > Immigration: 1888 > > Residence: 1900 in 1676 Bergen Street, Crown Heights, Brooklyn, New York, > NY > Occupation: 1900 in Brooklyn, New York, USA; Coal and Ice Dealer(?) > > Death: Bef. 1910 > > married: Louisa Unknown > Marriage: Abt. 1889 > > Children: > Frank Aberle > John Henry Aberle > Adolph Aberle > Anna Aberle > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chris, Many times the home village will be given in the obituary. The 1900 census indicates he was born Dec 1867. There is a Adolph Aberle that seems to fit your description at FamilySearch, and he died before 1910. (Note: Baden is just across the Rhein River from Alsace.) =========== https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NRDL-ZJF name: Adolph Aberle gender: Male baptism/christening date: 13 Dec 1867 baptism/christening place: Mauenheim, Baden, Germany birth date: 12 Dec 1867 death date: 24 Dec 1901 father's name: Valentin Aberle mother's name: Christina Schilling indexing project (batch) number: C94602-1 system origin: Germany-EASy source film number: 921910 Collection: "Germany, Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898," Adolph Aberle, 1867 =========== At 02:00 AM 9/16/2012, you wrote: >From: Chris H <castletownbere@gmail.com> >Subject: [A-L] ADOLPH ABERLE (b. 1867) > >I'm searching for any information or direction in finding the father of >ADOLPH ABERLE who was born in 1867 in Germany according to US Census >records and came to the US in 1888. Some members of the family think that >the ancestors are from Alsace-Lorraine. I don't know how to find passenger >lists for Germany or if there would be any area of Germany that would be >more likely to have an ABERLE (maybe EBERLE?) family if anyone can help. > The details I have on this ancestor are below. > >Any help is appreciated. Thanks! > >Christopher Harrington >castletownbere@gmail.com > >Father: Unknown Aberle (born mid-1800s?) >Mother: Unknown Unknown > >ADOLPH ABERLE > >Birth: Dec 1867 in Germany >Immigration: 1888 > >Residence: 1900 in 1676 Bergen Street, Crown Heights, Brooklyn, New York, NY >Occupation: 1900 in Brooklyn, New York, USA; Coal and Ice Dealer(?) > >Death: Bef. 1910 > >married: Louisa Unknown >Marriage: Abt. 1889 > >Children: >Frank Aberle >John Henry Aberle >Adolph Aberle >Anna Aberle ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/50564ff6305884ff52ac3st01vuc

Cook/Koch en Anglais/Francais My great-great Grandfather Frederick Cook/Koch was born in Alsace/Loraine part of France in July 18, 1821. He arrived in America about 1844 naturalization papers show, and the US Census shows him married to Walburg Baker Koch with a son, Frederick F. , born in 1851 and daughter, Rachel, born about 1856. He died December 5, 1902. The family oral story is that Frederick Sr. was married in France and his wife died. He was so despondent, he went down by the water and was hit over the head, taken aboard a ship which was headed to America. He landed in New York and stayed there. It is not known when or where he met Walburg. We just found his death certificate and his father’s name was Jacob Koch from France. We are hoping there is a family of Jacob Koch who is missing Frederick, who don’t know what became of him. They may have his birth, but not death. I would love to find my French ancestors. Mon arrière-grand-père Frederick Cook / Koch est né en Alsace / Lorraine à la France en Juillet 18, 1821. Il est arrivé en Amérique sur les papiers de naturalisation 1844 spectacle, et le recensement américain lui montre marié à Walburg Baker Koch avec un fils, Frederick F., né en 1851 et sa fille, Rachel, née vers 1856. Il est mort Décembre 5, 1902. L'histoire de la famille par voie orale est que Frédéric Sr. était marié en France et sa femme est morte. Il était tellement abattu, il descendit par l'eau et a été frappé à la tête, pris à bord d'un navire qui se dirigeait vers l'Amérique. Il débarque à New York et y est resté. On ne sait pas quand, ni où il a rencontré Walburg. On vient de trouver son certificat de décès et le nom de son père était Jacob Koch de la France. Nous espérons qu'il y est une famille de Jacob Koch qui est absent Frédéric, qui ne sait pas ce qu'il est devenu. Ils peuvent avoir des sa naissance, mais pas la mort. J'aimerais retrouver mes ancêtres français Carolyn Burt, M.Ed. Owner, Proctor Art Gallery,LLC

I'm searching for any information or direction in finding the father of ADOLPH ABERLE who was born in 1867 in Germany according to US Census records and came to the US in 1888. Some members of the family think that the ancestors are from Alsace-Lorraine. I don't know how to find passenger lists for Germany or if there would be any area of Germany that would be more likely to have an ABERLE (maybe EBERLE?) family if anyone can help. The details I have on this ancestor are below. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Christopher Harrington castletownbere@gmail.com Father: Unknown Aberle (born mid-1800s?) Mother: Unknown Unknown ADOLPH ABERLE Birth: Dec 1867 in Germany Immigration: 1888 Residence: 1900 in 1676 Bergen Street, Crown Heights, Brooklyn, New York, NY Occupation: 1900 in Brooklyn, New York, USA; Coal and Ice Dealer(?) Death: Bef. 1910 married: Louisa Unknown Marriage: Abt. 1889 Children: Frank Aberle John Henry Aberle Adolph Aberle Anna Aberle

Hello, PROBST / PROPST refers to a variety of functions, both ecclesiastical and civil, in German-speaking regions, including a big part of Switzerland, Germany, Alsace, Austria. The corresponding surname is present in all these regions. See (in German): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propst http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probst It derives from the Latin praepositus, which gave also provost (English) and prévot (French). Etienne Le 13 sept. 12 à 19:39, Nelda Percival a écrit : > Hi, > The Probst family surname is interchangeable with Brobst they are > Swiss not Germanic. > > I also am a descendant, of Probst immigrants whose surname changed > to Bribst..., but mine came much earlier.. to PA. > > http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~brobst/brobst-brobstology.htm > > There is also the rootsweb message board, can't remember if there is > a mailing list, but there is a lot of us, who use both versions of > the surname. > Nelda > > > >> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:11:11 -0700 >> From: elizabethsarniguet@sbcglobal.net >> To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [A-L] Anna Maria Probst >> >> Anna Maria Probst born in Alsace, Haut-Rhin, Lutter France. Birth >> date March 3, 1841 . Married Jean Probst October 12 1828. His >> birth date was March 15 1840. They had 7 children. They came to >> USA around 1871 with three daughters. Marie, Eugenia, and >> Caroline. Could anyone help me fine more information. thank you

Marie Josephine Kolb. born 12 jun 1807 (Joseph Kolb & Catherine Staetller? [+18 Jul 1822, pg missing in online images. Should be between pp 45-6.]), births p284 #28, + 17 May 1832 (age 25) wife of Louis Narieste Sauvageot (29) [oo 17 oct 1831, 2nd for Josephine] niece of Louis Kolb (59) Marie Caroline [not Catherine] Kolb, p 209 is already done. Brian On Tue, September 11, 2012 11:03 pm, Scotty B. wrote: > Hello, > > I have found 3 Deces notices I would greatly appreciate a translation > on as I cannot quite figure out if these are part of my family or not. > > Both are located in: Habsheim, Décès, 1817-1862 > > One is located on page 149 and appears to be for a Francois Louis Kolb > and appears to be Jan 17, 1835. I cannot quite tell his age or if > this notice mentions any relatives, son, wife/spouse or what. It is > record # 4 and is at the bottom on page 149 and top of 150. > > The second one is located on page 209 for a Marie Catherine Kolb, who > I think might be the above’s wife but not sure. > > The third one is located on page 127 and is record # 28 for a Marie > Josephine Kolb whom I can’t figure out how she is related yet. > > Whatever information can be deciphered from these documents would be > very helpful in trying to put this family together. > > thank you. > > Scott B. > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi listers, some corrections below. Etienne Le 13 sept. 12 à 22:25, Brian J Densmore a écrit : > That's not the way I see it. > > http://www.archives.cg68.fr/Services_Actes_Civils_Affichage.aspx?idActeCivil=3617&Image=233&idCommune=190&idTypeActe=2&idRecherche=0&anneeDebut=&anneeFin= > > p 234, Lutter births 1793-1862 > #1) Jean Probst born "about" 3 January 1840 at 10PM. I say about > because record dated 4 January, 11 PM > I've come across a phrase I've never seen "le menu jour" which I'm > guessing is "yesterday". No, "même jour" = the same day, 10 PM > Far : Xavier Probst (42) ?farmer? probably "cultivateur" = farmer > Mor: Madelein Nery/Nory/Ney/? (35) No, it is an "R" (see "Haut-Rhin" above) => Rey > Lived at #18 in the village > Witnesses: Aloise ?Stehlin? Yes > Bernard ?Busing/Bufing? rather Bufera (this name appears in the tables décennales of Lutter) > laborers > > For the Witnesses names I'm taking them from the signatures also. > > p 239, Lutter births 1793-1862 > #3) Anne Marie Probst born 11 Mar 1841 at 5 am record dated 12th > (same concern on date as above). same remark as above > Mor: Marie Anne Meyer (43) > Far: Ferdinand? Probst (43) (more like Ferd?????t) Ferdinant - day laborer > Lived at #58 in the village. > Reported by Anne Marie Stehlin, midwife (43) > same witnesses (look like this did this on the side, as they pop up > alot > as witnesses). Aloise Stehlin was "secrétaire de mairie". No wonder he "pops up" as a witness. The father being "absent", the declaration was made by the midwife Anne Marie Stehlin, 43, who signed. > p40 Lutter Marriages 1863-1872 > Johannes Probst (b 15 Mar 1840, +Xavier Probst & (wit)Magdalena Rey) > oo > Anna Maria Probst (b 11 Mar 1841, +Ferdinand Probst & +Maria Anna > Meyer) > on 28 Apr 1872. I'll check that another day... > Looks like they legitimized a child Maria Balbina Probst (b 10 Nov > 1865) > at the same time. Can't read it very good.And sure enough on page 16 > of > the births for 1863-1872, there she is and the comment legitimizing > her. > > Brian > > On Thu, September 13, 2012 10:11 am, Elizabeth Sarniguet wrote: >> Anna Maria Probst born in Alsace, Haut-Rhin, Lutter France. Birth >> date >> March 3, 1841 . Married Jean Probst October 12 1828. His birth >> date was >> March 15 1840. They had 7 children. They came to USA around 1871 >> with >> three daughters. Marie, Eugenia, and Caroline. Could anyone help >> me >> fine more information. thank you

Not "le menu jour", but "le même jour" / the same day. Ewald -------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian J Densmore" <brian@amason.net> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:25 PM To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [A-L] Anna Maria Probst > That's not the way I see it. > > http://www.archives.cg68.fr/Services_Actes_Civils_Affichage.aspx?idActeCivil=3617&Image=233&idCommune=190&idTypeActe=2&idRecherche=0&anneeDebut=&anneeFin= > > p 234, Lutter births 1793-1862 > #1) Jean Probst born "about" 3 January 1840 at 10PM. I say about because > I've come across a phrase I've never seen "le menu jour" which I'm > guessing is "yesterday". > Far : Xavier Probst (42) ?farmer? > Mor: Madelein Nery/Nory/Ney/? (35) > Lived at #18 in the village > Witnesses: Aloise ?Stehlin? > Bernard ?Busing/Bufing? laborers > > For the Witnesses names I'm taking them from the signatures also. > > p 239, Lutter births 1793-1862 > #3) Anne Marie Probst born 11 Mar 1841 at 5 am (same concern on date as > above). > Mor: Marie Anne Meyer (43) > Far: Ferdinand? Probst (43) (more like Ferd?????t) > Lived at #58 in the village. > Reported by Anne Marie Stehlin, midwife (43) > same witnesses (look like this did this on the side, as they pop up alot > as witnesses). > > p40 Lutter Marriages 1863-1872 > Johannes Probst (b 15 Mar 1840, +Xavier Probst & (wit)Magdalena Rey) > oo > Anna Maria Probst (b 11 Mar 1841, +Ferdinand Probst & +Maria Anna Meyer) > on 28 Apr 1872. > > Looks like they legitimized a child Maria Balbina Probst (b 10 Nov 1865) > at the same time. Can't read it very good.And sure enough on page 16 of > the births for 1863-1872, there she is and the comment legitimizing her. > > Brian > > On Thu, September 13, 2012 10:11 am, Elizabeth Sarniguet wrote: >> Anna Maria Probst born in Alsace, Haut-Rhin, Lutter France. Birth date >> March 3, 1841 . Married Jean Probst October 12 1828. His birth date >> was >> March 15 1840. They had 7 children. They came to USA around 1871 with >> three daughters. Marie, Eugenia, and Caroline. Could anyone help me >> fine more information. thank you >> -- >> Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Thu, September 13, 2012 2:40 pm, Etienne Herrbach wrote: > Hi listers, > > some corrections below. > > Etienne > > > Le 13 sept. 12 à 22:25, Brian J Densmore a écrit : > >> That's not the way I see it. >> >> http://www.archives.cg68.fr/Services_Actes_Civils_Affichage.aspx?idActeCivil=3617&Image=233&idCommune=190&idTypeActe=2&idRecherche=0&anneeDebut=&anneeFin= >> >> p 234, Lutter births 1793-1862 >> #1) Jean Probst born "about" 3 January 1840 at 10PM. I say about >> because > > record dated 4 January, 11 PM > >> I've come across a phrase I've never seen "le menu jour" which I'm >> guessing is "yesterday". > > No, "même jour" = the same day, 10 PM That makes sense. I was racking my brain on that because of the circumflex. Still, first time I've come across it. Thanks. But this doesn't help much with figuring out the dates in the marriage record later. >> Mor: Madelein Nery/Nory/Ney/? (35) > > No, it is an "R" (see "Haut-Rhin" above) => Rey I forgot to go back and fix this. After finding the marriage record. > rather Bufera (this name appears in the tables décennales of Lutter) Right. Forgot to fix that too. Found it in the TD. >> p 239, Lutter births 1793-1862 >> #3) Anne Marie Probst born 11 Mar 1841 at 5 am > > record dated 12th Based on Etienne's information this should make it 12 Mar 1841, and I'd probably go with that. But we are left with the puzzle of the marriage record and the date discrepancy for both births now. I agree that it was recorded on the 12th. Just didn't include that information, even though I read it. I always read the date and time of the recording, never know when it will be helpful. > >> (same concern on date as above). > > same remark as above > >> Mor: Marie Anne Meyer (43) >> Far: Ferdinand? Probst (43) (more like Ferd?????t) > > Ferdinant - day laborer That's what is written, and it looks like what is written, but Ferdinand is spelled with a "d" not a "t". This is undoubtedly a typo. See the marriage record. I come from a long line of Alsatian Ferdinands. The name is still being handed down in the family. > >> Lived at #58 in the village. >> Reported by Anne Marie Stehlin, midwife (43) >> same witnesses (look like this did this on the side, as they pop up >> alot >> as witnesses). > > Aloise Stehlin was "secrétaire de mairie". No wonder he "pops up" as > a witness. > The father being "absent", the declaration was made by the midwife > Anne Marie Stehlin, 43, who signed. Yeah, I couldn't quite make out that word. Brian

Totally true Brian, But I was indicating where in the world they seem to originate from at least 500 years ago. If we go by genetics they are a very well mixed group, just as you say. nelda Today well lived - makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a vision of hope. My Genealogy: http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/index.htm GeneticGenealogy: http://www.geneticsand.us Gilpin Worldwide Project: http://www.gilpingenetics.us ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.aircastles-internet-marketing.biz/ > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:42:11 -0500 > From: brian@amason.net > To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [A-L] Anna Maria Probst > > And indeed Jean/Johannes father, Xavier, signed as Brobst. > > But Swiss, is more of a mix than anything. You have Italian and Germanic > mixed in with Romansch. All at a very early stage. A good deal of the > Alsatians have Swiss origins, as a result partly due to migration after > the 30 Years War. By and large though, the Swiss are Germanic, only about > 1% of the modern Swiss people are Romansch. Swiss are primarily descended > from the Suebi branch of the Allemani, which gives them a close > relationship to those of Souther Baden-Wuerttemberg which contains the > former Swabia land. Although there has been an influx of French peoples > into Switzerland also. > > Brian > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~brobst/brobst-brobstology.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ####################################################################

And indeed Jean/Johannes father, Xavier, signed as Brobst. But Swiss, is more of a mix than anything. You have Italian and Germanic mixed in with Romansch. All at a very early stage. A good deal of the Alsatians have Swiss origins, as a result partly due to migration after the 30 Years War. By and large though, the Swiss are Germanic, only about 1% of the modern Swiss people are Romansch. Swiss are primarily descended from the Suebi branch of the Allemani, which gives them a close relationship to those of Souther Baden-Wuerttemberg which contains the former Swabia land. Although there has been an influx of French peoples into Switzerland also. Brian On Thu, September 13, 2012 12:39 pm, Nelda Percival wrote: > > Hi, > The Probst family surname is interchangeable with Brobst they are Swiss > not Germanic. > > I also am a descendant, of Probst immigrants whose surname changed to > Bribst..., but mine came much earlier.. to PA. > > http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~brobst/brobst-brobstology.htm > > There is also the rootsweb message board, can't remember if there is a > mailing list, but there is a lot of us, who use both versions of the > surname. > Nelda

That's not the way I see it. http://www.archives.cg68.fr/Services_Actes_Civils_Affichage.aspx?idActeCivil=3617&Image=233&idCommune=190&idTypeActe=2&idRecherche=0&anneeDebut=&anneeFin= p 234, Lutter births 1793-1862 #1) Jean Probst born "about" 3 January 1840 at 10PM. I say about because I've come across a phrase I've never seen "le menu jour" which I'm guessing is "yesterday". Far : Xavier Probst (42) ?farmer? Mor: Madelein Nery/Nory/Ney/? (35) Lived at #18 in the village Witnesses: Aloise ?Stehlin? Bernard ?Busing/Bufing? laborers For the Witnesses names I'm taking them from the signatures also. p 239, Lutter births 1793-1862 #3) Anne Marie Probst born 11 Mar 1841 at 5 am (same concern on date as above). Mor: Marie Anne Meyer (43) Far: Ferdinand? Probst (43) (more like Ferd?????t) Lived at #58 in the village. Reported by Anne Marie Stehlin, midwife (43) same witnesses (look like this did this on the side, as they pop up alot as witnesses). p40 Lutter Marriages 1863-1872 Johannes Probst (b 15 Mar 1840, +Xavier Probst & (wit)Magdalena Rey) oo Anna Maria Probst (b 11 Mar 1841, +Ferdinand Probst & +Maria Anna Meyer) on 28 Apr 1872. Looks like they legitimized a child Maria Balbina Probst (b 10 Nov 1865) at the same time. Can't read it very good.And sure enough on page 16 of the births for 1863-1872, there she is and the comment legitimizing her. Brian On Thu, September 13, 2012 10:11 am, Elizabeth Sarniguet wrote: > Anna Maria Probst born in Alsace, Haut-Rhin, Lutter France.  Birth date > March 3, 1841 .  Married Jean Probst  October 12 1828.  His birth date was > March 15 1840.  They had 7 children.  They came to USA around 1871 with > three daughters.  Marie, Eugenia, and Caroline.   Could anyone help me > fine more information.   thank you   > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

First one. Francois Louis Kolb, proprietor and formerly deputy Mayor + 17 Jan 1835, 2PM (62, 4m) Widower of Marie Anne Huber and son of dec. Andre Kolb (while living Mayor and proprietor) and Agnes Jella(?) residents of the village and died in the house ? on the main road of the village. Witnesses: Francois Joseph Kolb (59), brother Francois Antoine Schweitzer (41), friend Brian On Tue, September 11, 2012 11:03 pm, Scotty B. wrote: > Hello, > > I have found 3 Deces notices I would greatly appreciate a translation > on as I cannot quite figure out if these are part of my family or not. > > Both are located in: Habsheim, Décès, 1817-1862 > > One is located on page 149 and appears to be for a Francois Louis Kolb > and appears to be Jan 17, 1835. I cannot quite tell his age or if > this notice mentions any relatives, son, wife/spouse or what. It is > record # 4 and is at the bottom on page 149 and top of 150. > > The second one is located on page 209 for a Marie Catherine Kolb, who > I think might be the above’s wife but not sure. > > The third one is located on page 127 and is record # 28 for a Marie > Josephine Kolb whom I can’t figure out how she is related yet. > > Whatever information can be deciphered from these documents would be > very helpful in trying to put this family together. > > thank you. > > Scott B. > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, The Probst family surname is interchangeable with Brobst they are Swiss not Germanic. I also am a descendant, of Probst immigrants whose surname changed to Bribst..., but mine came much earlier.. to PA. http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~brobst/brobst-brobstology.htm There is also the rootsweb message board, can't remember if there is a mailing list, but there is a lot of us, who use both versions of the surname. Nelda Today well lived - makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a vision of hope. My Genealogy: http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/index.htm GeneticGenealogy: http://www.geneticsand.us Gilpin Worldwide Project: http://www.gilpingenetics.us ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.aircastles-internet-marketing.biz/ > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:11:11 -0700 > From: elizabethsarniguet@sbcglobal.net > To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [A-L] Anna Maria Probst > > Anna Maria Probst born in Alsace, Haut-Rhin, Lutter France. Birth date March 3, 1841 . Married Jean Probst October 12 1828. His birth date was March 15 1840. They had 7 children. They came to USA around 1871 with three daughters. Marie, Eugenia, and Caroline. Could anyone help me fine more information. thank you > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Message: 6 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:11:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Elizabeth Sarniguet <elizabethsarniguet@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [A-L] Anna Maria Probst To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1347549071.48346.YahooMailClassic@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Anna Maria Probst born in Alsace, Haut-Rhin, Lutter France.? Birth date March 3, 1841?.? Married Jean Probst? October 12 1828.? His birth date was March 15 1840.? They had 7 children.? They came to USA around 1871 with three daughters.? Marie, Eugenia, and Caroline.?? Could anyone help me fine more information.?? thank you?? Lutter, Haut-Rhin, Alsace, France is about 12km SW of Basel Switzerland, almost directly South of Mulhouse France, and almost on the French-Swiss border. You can access their records online, beginning at this page: <http://www.archives.cg68.fr/Services_Actes_Civils.aspx> All of the dates you¹ve given can be researched in the Actes e¹état civil (civil registration records) by year. [though I¹m sure you¹ve typo¹ed the marriage year (married 1828 when both were born ca 1840, right?] I THINK your Anne Marie is the 3rd birth recorded on this 1st page of 1841 births: <http://www.archives.cg68.fr/Services_Actes_Civils_Affichage.aspx?idActeCivi l=3617&Image=238&idCommune=190&idTypeActe=2&idRecherche=1&anneeDebut=1841&an neeFin=> That¹s a long address, so besure to get everything between the <> brackets. Sometimes the end-of-line cuts the address. You can search for known dates; but if you need unknown dates, use the Tables Decannales (10 year indexes, where the births are listed in Alpha order by family name. These 10 year indexes run from 1793-1802; 1803-1812; 1813-1822; etc. They will give you the date of the record and then you switch to and search the records themselves. Of course, you will find the records either in German or French, depending on the nationality of Alsace at the time. Good luck Cari Thomas

Marie Caroline Kolb, age 74y, 3 months + 29 May 1842. sister to first witness Joseph Kolb (66), and neighbor to second witness Joseph ?Heuber?, Dominique's son (51). Her parents are not mentioned. Brian On Tue, September 11, 2012 9:22 am, Scotty B. wrote: > Hello, > I have found a death notice in Habsheim, Décès, 1817-1862 which is on > page 209 and is record #21 for a Marie Caroline Kolb. > > I do not see a mention of her mother on this notice but see her father as > Joseph Kolb. Whatever information can be translated from this notice > would be really appreciated as I think it’s part of the search I am > looking for. I see the date of May 30, 1842 unless I am wrong but any > other information would be helpful as far as her parents. > > Thank you, > > Scott Baumann > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message