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    1. Re: [AL-PIKE] William Calvin Oates
    2. Wm. Flake Joiner

    3. At 10:19 PM 1/18/06, you wrote: > Governor William Calvin OATES had two sons enumerated on the 1880 > census. Josh, and Claudius. I have identified Josh's mother as Lucy > HICKMAN. The daughter Daniel Edward HICKMAN and Sarah Ann V. CALK. >Was she the mother of his brother Claudius or was that someone else? >Le Le, I don't think that Lucy HICKMAN was the mother of both Claudius and Joshua Cornelius OATES. Josh shows up in Lucy's home in 1870 and in 1900, Claudius doesn't. See Lucy's Individual Summary below: Name: Lucy HICKMAN, Sex: Female Father: Daniel Edward HICKMAN (abt 1802 - aft 1855) Mother: Sarah Ann G./V. CALK (abt 1832 - aft 1860) Individual Facts Birth Nov 1852 Henry County, Alabama Census 1870 (age 18) Henry County, Alabama Census 1880 (age 28) Henry County, Alabama Census 1900 (age 48) Newton (Precinct 4), Dale County, Alabama Spouses/Children 1. Governor William Calvin OATES of Alabama Children Joshua Cornelius OATES (13 Dec 1867 - ) 2. __________(m) __________ Children Ola HICKMAN (Aug 1878 - ) Notes (Individual) Census (1870): The 1870 U. S. Census of Henry Co., AL enumerated the household of Lou HICKMAN as follows: #105 #105 Hickman, Lou 18 F W Keeping House Alabama Cornellus (sic) 2 M M Alabama (This would have been Joshua C. OATES - Joshua Cornelius OATES.) Census (1880): The 1880 U. S. Census of Abbeville, Henry County, Alabama enumerated Ola HICKMAN< age 5, born in Alabama as a member of the household of Lucy HICKMAN, age 23, housekeeper, born in Alabama. Census (1900): The 1900 U. S. Census of Dale County, Alabama enumerated J. C. OATES as the son of Lucy HICKMAN and Ola HICKMAN as the daughter of Lucy HICKMAN, and both as members of the household of Lucy HICKMAN. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Both of the boys show up as members of their father's family in the 1880 U. S. Census of Henry County, Alabama: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_0&frompage=5>William C. OATES Self Male W 44 AL Lawyer SC NC <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_1&frompage=5>Sarah OATES Mother M Female W 73 NC House Keeper NC NC <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_2&frompage=5>Claud OATES Son S Male W 15 AL Attend School AL AL <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_3&frompage=5>Joshua OATES Son S Male W 12 AL Attend School AL AL <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_4&frompage=5>Andrson WARD Other W Male B 40 AL Servant AL AL <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_5&frompage=5>Mary HOLMES Other S Female B 46 AL Cook AL AL <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_6&frompage=5>Mary J. LONG Other M Female W 40 AL SC NC <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_7&frompage=5>J. Benjamin LONG Other S Male W 23 AL Attending Med School AL AL <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_8&frompage=5>William O. LONG Other S Male W 21 AL Lawyer AL AL <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_9&frompage=5>Mamie LONG Other S Female W 17 AL School Mistress AL AL Source Information: Census Place Abbeville, Henry, Alabama Family History Library Film <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/../../library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C180%2C0&filmno=1254015>1254015 NA Film Number T9-0015 Page Number 650C ------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is a man in either Abbeville or Headland (possibly the Editor of a newspaper) that is considered an authority of William Calvin OATES. I don't have his name. If you should find out who the mother of Claudius, please let me know. Good hunting, "Sonny" in Pike County, Alabama Wm. Flake Joiner 311 East Church Street P. O. Box 406 Troy, AL 36081-0406 DESK 33Four-56Six-996Eight; CELL 33Four-37Two-116Zero See list of available publications from the Pike County, Alabama Historical & Genealogical Society at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~alpike/hsp.htm "Progress was fine for a while; it just went on too long!" - Annette Shackelford Parks

    01/18/2006 04:06:52
    1. Re: [AL-PIKE] William Calvin Oates
    2. Le Bateman

    3. Thanks Sonny. If you come across anything let me know please. Le ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Flake Joiner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [AL-PIKE] William Calvin Oates At 10:19 PM 1/18/06, you wrote: > Governor William Calvin OATES had two sons enumerated on the 1880 > census. Josh, and Claudius. I have identified Josh's mother as Lucy > HICKMAN. The daughter Daniel Edward HICKMAN and Sarah Ann V. CALK. >Was she the mother of his brother Claudius or was that someone else? >Le Le, I don't think that Lucy HICKMAN was the mother of both Claudius and Joshua Cornelius OATES. Josh shows up in Lucy's home in 1870 and in 1900, Claudius doesn't. See Lucy's Individual Summary below: Name: Lucy HICKMAN, Sex: Female Father: Daniel Edward HICKMAN (abt 1802 - aft 1855) Mother: Sarah Ann G./V. CALK (abt 1832 - aft 1860) Individual Facts Birth Nov 1852 Henry County, Alabama Census 1870 (age 18) Henry County, Alabama Census 1880 (age 28) Henry County, Alabama Census 1900 (age 48) Newton (Precinct 4), Dale County, Alabama Spouses/Children 1. Governor William Calvin OATES of Alabama Children Joshua Cornelius OATES (13 Dec 1867 - ) 2. __________(m) __________ Children Ola HICKMAN (Aug 1878 - ) Notes (Individual) Census (1870): The 1870 U. S. Census of Henry Co., AL enumerated the household of Lou HICKMAN as follows: #105 #105 Hickman, Lou 18 F W Keeping House Alabama Cornellus (sic) 2 M M Alabama (This would have been Joshua C. OATES - Joshua Cornelius OATES.) Census (1880): The 1880 U. S. Census of Abbeville, Henry County, Alabama enumerated Ola HICKMAN< age 5, born in Alabama as a member of the household of Lucy HICKMAN, age 23, housekeeper, born in Alabama. Census (1900): The 1900 U. S. Census of Dale County, Alabama enumerated J. C. OATES as the son of Lucy HICKMAN and Ola HICKMAN as the daughter of Lucy HICKMAN, and both as members of the household of Lucy HICKMAN. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Both of the boys show up as members of their father's family in the 1880 U. S. Census of Henry County, Alabama: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_0&frompage=5>William C. OATES Self Male W 44 AL Lawyer SC NC <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_1&frompage=5>Sarah OATES Mother M Female W 73 NC House Keeper NC NC <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_2&frompage=5>Claud OATES Son S Male W 15 AL Attend School AL AL <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_3&frompage=5>Joshua OATES Son S Male W 12 AL Attend School AL AL <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_4&frompage=5>Andrson WARD Other W Male B 40 AL Servant AL AL <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_5&frompage=5>Mary HOLMES Other S Female B 46 AL Cook AL AL <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_6&frompage=5>Mary J. LONG Other M Female W 40 AL SC NC <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_7&frompage=5>J. Benjamin LONG Other S Male W 23 AL Attending Med School AL AL <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_8&frompage=5>William O. LONG Other S Male W 21 AL Lawyer AL AL <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/./individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11829641_9&frompage=5>Mamie LONG Other S Female W 17 AL School Mistress AL AL Source Information: Census Place Abbeville, Henry, Alabama Family History Library Film <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/../../library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C180%2C0&filmno=1254015>1254015 NA Film Number T9-0015 Page Number 650C ------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is a man in either Abbeville or Headland (possibly the Editor of a newspaper) that is considered an authority of William Calvin OATES. I don't have his name. If you should find out who the mother of Claudius, please let me know. Good hunting, "Sonny" in Pike County, Alabama Wm. Flake Joiner 311 East Church Street P. O. Box 406 Troy, AL 36081-0406 DESK 33Four-56Six-996Eight; CELL 33Four-37Two-116Zero See list of available publications from the Pike County, Alabama Historical & Genealogical Society at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~alpike/hsp.htm "Progress was fine for a while; it just went on too long!" - Annette Shackelford Parks ==== ALPIKE Mailing List ==== Visit Pike Co. Alabama Archives for Pike Co. records: http://www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/al/pike.htm

    01/18/2006 05:08:56