At 05:27 PM 07/15/2001 -0400, Bowtssl@aol.com wrote: >Sorry about that other message that was sent accidentally. Anyhow, can >anyone tell me who was so famous or prominent in early northern Pike County >(formerly part of Montgomery Co.) with the Hilliard name? My Barnett >ancestors in northern Pike county used it as the second name for many sons >(beginning about 1820s continuing to 1860s), but never the first name that >I know of. The practice was continued by Barnetts who moved to Texas in >1850s and later. Am not aware of any family connection, marriage or >otherwise, to anyone of that name, so am wondering why such an obvious >regard for one or more persons of that name. My Barnetts came from SC to >Montgomery Co/Pike Co. about 1815. Could the connection extend back to SC? >Would appreciate any info from you folks more familiar with Pike County. >Thanks in advance! > >Sherry Bowers Sherry, The family of Major William W. HILLIARD were quite prominent in Pike Co., AL; however, they didn't arrive on the scene until 1851. During that period it was quite common for children to be named for their father's military leader. In this case, it probably would have been from the War of 1812. Good hunting, "Sonny" in Pike County, Alabama [Data from publications of the Pike Co. Historical & Genealogical Society] See list of available publications at: http://www.intersurf.com/~johnjanr/hsp.htm Wm. Flake Joiner 311 East Church Street P. O. Box 406 Troy, AL 36081-0406 VOICE 334-566-9968; FAX/DATA/MODEM 334-566-8250 "Progress was fine for a while; it just went on too long!" - Annette Shackelford Parks

Sorry about that other message that was sent accidentally. Anyhow, can anyone tell me who was so famous or prominent in early northern Pike County (formerly part of Montgomery Co.) with the Hilliard name? My Barnett ancestors in northern Pike county used it as the second name for many sons (beginning about 1820s continuing to 1860s), but never the first name that I know of. The practice was continued by Barnetts who moved to Texas in 1850s and later. Am not aware of any family connection, marriage or otherwise, to anyone of that name, so am wondering why such an obvious regard for one or more persons of that name. My Barnetts came from SC to Montgomery Co/Pike Co. about 1815. Could the connection extend back to SC? Would appreciate any info from you folks more familiar with Pike County. Thanks in advance! Sherry Bowers

Elijah G. Childs was born about 1820 in GA died 1893 Webster County, MS. His wife was Susan Oswalt born SC. He is on the 1840 census of Pike County, AL and had at least two children born there William 1843 and Susan 1854. John 1845, Elisha Glaze 1850, and Thomas Wiley 1859 were born in AL possibly Pike County. Have not been able to find him on any census in anstate for 1850 or 1860. He arrived in Choctaw (later Webster) County, Mississippi in 1861. Any information would be appreciated.

Good afternoon Christine, I do not find a George Garris in the 1850 Census for Pike Co. AL but I do find a George Garret living in the Henry J. Hutto home: Henry J. Hutto 35 SC Farmer $200 Louisa 35 GA Ivy 09 AL John 08 AL Joseph 05 AL Taylor 02 AL George Garret 19 AL Laborer I also found George W. Garrett who married AchahCole 18 Dec 1850 k 2 Pg 59 Pike Coumty AL but no George Garris. I do not find any of them in other records. They may have moved. I didn't find George Garris anywhere. Wynnette T. Welch I am in desperate need of a Pike Co 1850 census look up, George Garris page 145. Who was in the household, what were their names and ages? I am hunting a great grandfather, and the man keeps illuding me! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Christine Tomlin smtomlin@aol.com

I am in desperate need of a Pike Co 1850 census look up, George Garris page 145. Who was in the household, what were their names and ages? I am hunting a great grandfather, and the man keeps illuding me! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Christine Tomlin smtomlin@aol.com

In a message dated 7/14/01 9:43:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pmccoy@pacifier.com writes: > Just to let you know I have been postings Obit's for the last week to > Patsy, A great big THANK YOU for your hard work & dedication to the obituaries from Pike Co. I know you have found several of my family lines. I appreciate all your efforts.....maggie

Hello, was wondering if your line connected to John Tillmon Howell b. 1845 in anyway? He is buried in Geneva Co. in the Pondtown Cemetery. We know he lived there and Dale Co. Thanks, Lisa

I do not have any of the Mannings you have listed. The oldest of mine is Wm. Hampton Manning age 50 in 1850 Pike,Al born in NC-county unknown & father unknown. There was another Wm.H. Manning who was a Judge, but mine were at Milo, below Troy,near Springhill. My research is on his descendants in Butler and Pike. I am sorry, I don't have your names also. Mary Sandel

Elsie: I have just seen your reply tonight. All of my Mannings are from NC county unknown, and the oldest Wm.Hampton Manning b. 1800 NC-his father unknown. It is his descendants in Butler and especially Pike that are the ones I have researched. I do not have a Emily or a Manning from Tenn. Mary Sandel

Does anyone have any information on the Sanders that lived in Pike County in the mid to late 1800's? Specifically, does anyone know where William H. Sanders is buried? I have that he died in China Grove, Pike County, Alabama in 1872. Thanks in advance, -- Angela Weaver Researching: Denton, Sanders, Hill, Webb, Heller, Hartley, Weaver, Wyatt, Miller, Sipes, Ramage, and Applegate Visit the Panola County Heritage Website! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~panolacountyheritage/index.htm __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com

Hi List: Just to let you know I have been postings Obit's for the last week to the Pike Message Board under Queries and for some reason they are not being posted to the Pike List. I have contacted John on this problem and he is to get back to me. Hope we can get this corrected if not keep checking for I have just gone through the 1961 Troy Messenger and will post as I have time. Sorry for the inconvenience but you might want to look an see if I have posted anything on your long lost love ones. Happy Hunting Patsy McCoy Vancouver, Washington

Hi , the obit is where i got the info on Pearlie also, do you by chance have dates , etc for the family?? Thank you , here is what i have on the Boutwell's with the help of Patsy McCoy and others, (can see on Dale Co., Mailing list archives june i think . )Descendants of Thomas Boutwell 1 Thomas Boutwell b: Abt. 1812 in SC +Caroline Stephens b: Abt. 1822 in Ga. ....... 2 Louisa Eliza Boutwell b: July 24, 1858 in Al. d: March 19, 1928 in Pike Co., Al. ........... +Wm D. Grimes, Jr b: Abt. 1862 d: Bef. 1900 in Al. Father: Wm D. Grimes Mother: Luruhama Lassiter .................. 3 Clemmie Grimes b: July 1888 ...................... +Mary Ella ? Grimes b: Abt. 1890 in Al. .................. 3 Fannie Lou Grimes b: February 03, 1890 in Al. d: November 12, 1980 in Buried Greenhill Cem, Pike Co., Al. ...................... +Barney Carroll b: March 26, 1892 d: September 07, 1968 in Buried Greenhill Cem, Pike Co., Al. Father: Daniel M. Carroll Mother: Camilla Bragg .................. 3 Pearlie Thomas Grimes b: August 1897 d: March 22, 1961 in Union Springs,Al. ...................... +Effie Crenshaw ....... 2 Wm J. Boutwell b: Abt. 1846 ....... 2 Mary Boutwell b: Abt. 1847 ....... 2 Hiram Boutwell b: Abt. 1849 ....... 2 Joel Boutwell b: Abt. 1856 ....... 2 Sarah Jane Boutwell b: January 22, 1853 in Al. d: January 01, 1911 in Buried Center Ridge Cem. Pike Co., Al. ........... +Madison Jeff Carroll b: December 22, 1848 d: April 06, 1904 in Buried Center Ridge Cem. Pike Co., Al. Father: Nathan Carroll Mother: Ann Elizabeth McLane Good luck CGT

I got the death certificates back for James Hansford (Hance) CROCKER and Mollie Estelle CROCKER Vance and on both the parents are listed as unknown, but I did get birth dates from them. Apparently, both families left Deanville, Coffee County area and settled in and around Phenix City, Russell County where they both died @ 1940-1943. Still haven't found anything on Alice CROCKER Henderson m Sam HENDERSON who was living in Columbus, GA. I have them with only one known child, Ruby Henderson. Any other suggestions? What are my chances of finding a Pike County birth certificate between the dates of 1865 and 1885? ___________________________________________________________ Life is a grindstone; whether it grinds you down or polishes you up depends on what you're made of. - Jacob M. Braude

I am searching for the grave of William Jefferson Head, Son of Robert Aulcy (Auley) Head (m. to Marinda Sessions), residing in Pike County, AL. William was also a soldier in the CSA, Collier's Co. I, 17th Ala. Inf. Regt. I believe that William died on 11 July 1862. Any information or suggestions you might have is most appreciated!

At 04:31 PM 07/13/2001 -0600, durfee_lynda@tmac.com wrote: >I suspect he had a prior marriage, since he was 55 when he maried Jane Park. The 1830 and 1840 records from Pike County do not reflect an earlier marriage. He must have been too busy making money to have time for a family. The 1820 U. S. Census of Conecuh County, Alabama was mentioned in this thread. WHOEVER HAS IT, PLEASE POST IT. The 1830 U. S. Census of Pike County, Alabama enumerated the household of Solomon SILER as follows: one male between 40 and 50, Slaves: nine males under 10, eight males between 10 and 24, eight males between 24 and 36, eight females under 10, seven females between 10 and 24, four females between 24 and 36. The 1840 U. S. Census of Pike County, Alabama enumerated the household of Solomon SILER as follows: two males between 20 and 30, one male between 30 and 40, one male between 50 and 60, Slaves: twenty-three males under 10, twenty males between 10 and 24, twelve males between 24 and 36, five males between 36 and 55, one male between 55 and 100. twenty-four females under 10, 15 females between 10 and 24, ten females between 24 and 36, one female between 36 and 5, and one female between 55 and 100. Thanks, "Sonny" in Pike County, Alabama [Data from publications of the Pike Co. Historical & Genealogical Society] See list of available publications at: http://www.intersurf.com/~johnjanr/hsp.htm Wm. Flake Joiner 311 East Church Street P. O. Box 406 Troy, AL 36081-0406 VOICE 334-566-9968; FAX/DATA/MODEM 334-566-8250 "Progress was fine for a while; it just went on too long!" - Annette Shackelford Parks

Looking for information on the family of George BUSH b.abt 1878, AL and Alice b.abt 1877, TX or AL. The are in the 1900 census of Pike Co, AL; 1910 Newton Co, TX and 1920 Tyler Co, TX. Alice's maiden name is apparently Smith. In a settlement of land in San Jacinto Co, TX it mentions Alice (SMITH) and George G Bush. The land deals with land that was owned by George W SMITH b.1834, GA and his wife Nancy SHIRLEY. Like any information on this family.

Thank you very much! I'll keep on plugging away at the Siler/Syler/Sylar family.

Thomas H. Beauchamp, May 18, 1836-Dec 9, 1898; buried besidetwo large unarked marked gravesthen Etta, d, Nov 8, 1881, age2 yrs, 5 mos and 26 days; d/oT.H. and S.J. Beauchamp; all atOakwood Cemetery, Troy, PikeCounty; for your records heserved in TWBTS first as Sgt,CoB, 39th Ala In Rgt and was paroled at Greensboro, NC May1, 1865 as Sgt,Co H, 22d AlaInf Rgt; he went out from Barbour County along w/ JosephJ.Beauchamp; I notice that oneWilliam from Barbour also served,don't know if he is yours ornot.Homer

Sorry, I have no idea what those letters mean. Where is he buried at? Wanda

I suspect he had a prior marriage, since he was 55 when he maried Jane Park. I'm working on the Park side (Musgrove, actually), so I haven't followed the Siler line back, but only down. Solomon Siler is listed in the 1820 censuses in Conecuh Co., then in 1840 and 1850 in Pike Co. There are 117 entries for Solomon Siler in the Alabama land records index (federal land grants). Unfortunately, what I have is from a history of the country which doesn't mention anything of a prior family. It appears other Silers in Pike county are descendants of his cousins. All I can suggest is that you search family trees. I found a large Siler family tree online, but it doesn't have the couple you mentioned.