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I am looking for information on the following: Mary Margaret Ricks b 1835 SC Robert Wiley Stewart, b abt 1832 in GA I believe they were in Pike Co around 1850 but can't seem to find them on the census. I have MM Ricks Stewart on the 1860 & 1870 census as widow. She moved to Sabine Parish by way of Bradley Arkansas after leaving Alabama between 1850-1860. Mary Margaret Ricks b 1835 SC married Robert W. Stewart, b abt 1832 in GA, abt 1852 in Pike Co., AL. Wold love to prove the parents of both. I have William Simpson Ricks b 1811SC and Malinda Childers b 1813 SC as parents of MM Ricks but have not proven this yet. Thanks in advance Peggy
Hi List: Being a paid member of the PCH&GS I would also like to know about publications for 2006, please post to the list or to myself at [email protected] Also does anyone know how many paid members the PCH&GS has and are we gaining or losing members??? Thanks for any and all help Patsy (Fortune) McCoy Vancouver, Washington USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Hopper" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 3:53 PM Subject: [AL-PIKE] Pike County, Alabama Historical Society > Has the Society sent out any publications for the 2006 membership? > > > > ==== ALPIKE Mailing List ==== > Please remember anything posted on this list from ALArchives is automated > from forms, > please look for the contributor and reply to that person. > >
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QU.2ADI/3916.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I'm not trying to argue. I didn't see an entire copy of works in that message. My point being, there is a thing called references, and bibliograhies which give credit to the patent holder and supplies a "pointage" to the entire works if one so desires to read it. 'Nough said, this site is for geneaology, not debating points of law.
If you have any connection or information on a Bluford Watson, would appreciate learning of it. [email protected] Claudia [email protected] wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QU.2ADI/3787.4 Message Board Post: My ancestors from Spring Hill are the Reddochs, Edwards, Watsons, and Simmons. Would love to share information with anyone about Springhill or these surnames. Tonia Porter ==== ALPIKE Mailing List ==== Please remember anything posted on this list from ALArchives is automated from forms, please look for the contributor and reply to that person. --------------------------------- Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.
Dale-Barbour-Pike County AlArchives Obituaries.....Portwood, James Columbus December 22, 2005 ************************************************ Copyright. All rights reserved. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/copyright.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/al/alfiles.htm ************************************************ File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: Jimmy Portwood http://www.rootsweb.com/~archreg/vols/00020.html#0004777 August 4, 2006, 3:39 pm Compliments of Fuqua-Bankston Funeral Home, Ozark, Alabama Mr. James Columbus Portwood of Ozark, Alabama, age 84, passed away Thursday, December 22, 2005 after an extended illness. Funeral services will be Tuesday, December 27, 2005 at 2 p.m. at the chapel of Fuqua-Bankston Funeral Home with Reverend Isom Hill officiating. Interment will follow at Westview Memorial Cemetery. The family will be receiving friends at the funeral home chapel, Monday evening, December 26, 2005 from 6 until 8 p.m. Mr. Portwood was born in Ariton, Alabama on August 02, 1922 to the late Oliver and Annie Hullet Portwood. He was a veteran of Word War II. He retired from Civil Service at Fort Rucker after 32 years. He loved fishing and gardening. Mr. Portwood is preceded in death by two brothers, Clifton and Cecil Portwood and one sister, Mrs. A.Z. Burke. He is survived by one daughter, Diane Mills of Flint, MI., three sons, Jimmy C. Portwood of Alexandria, VA., Gene Portwood of macon, GA., and William D. Portwood of Ozark, Alabama, 1 sister and brother-in- law: Alice and William Henderson of Dothan, AL., 16 grandchildren and 14 great grandchildren. Additional Comments: Obituary authored by Fuqua-Bankston Funeral Home, Ozark, Alabama. File at: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/al/dale/obits/p/portwood652gob.txt This file has been created by a form at http://www.genrecords.org/alfiles/ File size: 1.9 Kb
Dale-Coffee-Pike County AlArchives Obituaries.....Portwood, Louise Strickland November 7, 1933 ************************************************ Copyright. All rights reserved. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/copyright.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/al/alfiles.htm ************************************************ File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: Jimmy Portwood http://www.rootsweb.com/~archreg/vols/00020.html#0004777 August 4, 2006, 3:17 pm 08/12/2005 Mrs. louise Portwood of Ozark, Alabama passed away at her residence early Friday, morning, August 5, 2005 after an extended illness. She was 71. Funeral services will be at 2 p.m. on Monday, August 8, 2005, from Post Oak Baptist Church in Ozark, with Reverend Don Moore officiating. Burial will take place in Westview Cemetery. The family will receive friends at Fuqua-Bankston Fneral Home, Sunday evening from 3-5 p.m. Mrs. Portwood was born November 7, 1933 in New Brockton, Aabama to john R. and Annie Elizabeth Johnson Strickland. In 1963, she moved from Ariton in Dale County to Brundidge in Pike County, Alabama. In 1967, she moved back to Dale County, to Ozark from Brundidge. Mrs. Portwood worked for Avondale Mills (10 years) and with Dale Medical Center in Ozark for 17 years. Mrs. Portwood was preceded in death by her Father, John R. Strickland. Surviving family include her mother: Annie Elizabeth Strickland of Grand Rapids, MI., 3 sons: Jimmy C. Portwood of Alexandria, VA., Gene Portwood of Macon, GA., Willliam D. Portwood of Ariton, AL.; 1 daughter: Diane Mills of Flint, MI. and a Step daughter: renda Lewis. 4 Sisters: Gladys Dunford of Ozark, AL., Lucille Kuyt, Betty Kapla, and Brenda Hudson, all of Michigan. 2 brothers: Roy Strickland and David Strickland, both of Michigan. Sixteen Grandchildren and twelve Great Grandchildren also survive. County Additional Comments: Obituary authored by Fuqua-Banston Funeral Home, Ozark, Alabama. File at: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/al/dale/obits/p/portwood651gob.txt This file has been created by a form at http://www.genrecords.org/alfiles/ File size: 2.1 Kb
Here is a bit of information concerning copyright and its application to certain things... What Is Not Protected by Copyright? Several categories of material are generally not eligible for federal copyright protection. These include among others: a.. Works that have not been fixed in a tangible form of expression (for example, choreographic works that have not been notated or recorded, or improvisational speeches or performances that have not been written or recorded) b.. Titles, names, short phrases, and slogans; familiar symbols or designs; mere variations of typographic ornamentation, lettering, or coloring; mere listings of ingredients or contents c.. Ideas, procedures, methods, systems, processes, concepts, principles, discoveries, or devices, as distinguished from a description, explanation, or illustration d.. Works consisting entirely of information that is common property and containing no original authorship (for example: standard calendars, height and weight charts, tape measures and rulers, and lists or tables taken from public documents or other common sources) e.. You might want to visit the following: f.. http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#wwp g.. It looks like the last paragraph concerns the issue currently being kicked around on ALPIKE.....docjones
Hi -- As an English and History major and one who worked in many aspects of the field of history, the word plagiarism comes to mind. If one has a photocopy of an original muster roll(s) and is posting lists of names from that -- that is one thing, although the original document should be clearly cited. Using published information for a paper or some such, even something like a list of soldiers, would be acceptable only if properly footnoted, the publication in the bibliography, and preferably prefacing the information with a caveat (i.e. this list is from . . .). Much as it pleases me to get information, piecemeal copying of an entire copyrighted document is neither ethical nor legal, although I must say I have copied large portions of documents when a job was in one state and I lived in quite another. That said -- there have long been a number of Historical Society publications I have wanted to purchase; however, I don't want to purchase publications and have them be of no use to me. This was exactly the proposal I made a few years ago to two prominent members of the Historical Society -- I offered all of my Wood and Waters family papers and pictures for publication in the Society's proceedings in exchange for photocopies of the INDEXES of their publications so that I could purchase the relevant ones. I love primary research, but why reinvent the wheel!! Yes, it is inevitable that I will have to make a geneaology pilgrimage at some time, but AL is a long way to go to look at published sources!! That said, I have come across an interesting little question about the AL 1st Infantry. I have Stewart Sifakis' Compendium of the Confederate Armies: Alabama (1992) -- not very helpful, part of my reluctance to purchase some things sight unseen. It states that the 1st was captured again at Port Hudson, (additional internet resources here) the privates were exchanged the same month, but the officers were confined until the end of the War. Apparently some of them escaped, some names given. Does anyone have information on this escape?? JH Wood is not mentioned, but he was an officer in the 1st and he was not in prison until the end of the War. I have letters from a couple of places including a field hospital and from the field outside Atlanta. And I believe he continued to fight with the 1st until their surrender by Johnston in NC in 1865. He could have been on leave, in the hospital, not captured, AWOL???? Anyone have any info or info to which they can direct me??? Thanks so much, Suzanne
Daniel Joshua Boutwell married Clara Elizabeth Macon, and Earnest Lucian Bundy married Leila Macon. "Lizzie" and Leila were sisters and daughters of John Pleasant Macon and Mary Etta Ballard. John Pleasant was a son of Jacob Jackson Macon and his first wife Nancy C. Bates. They were all from Springhill. J.J. was the pastor of Springhill Baptist Church, and his wife Nancy was the first person buried in the cemetery there. I know quite a bit of the ancestry of the Macon's back to VA in the mid 1600s, but I know very little of the descendants of these 2 families. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Rusty Macon Weber
Excuse me John but we are not beating a dead horse here. This is an important issue. Copying other people's work without permission is just not good practice no matter how much we all want to see our family records online. As List Administrator and County Coordinator for Pike Co. I am all for getting records online and for free but it's vital that we share records that we have resourced ourselves and not copy work others have done. The society put that information together into a publication they are selling and they do not owe it to any of us to make it free. They sell their publications and most often the moneys they make goes into supplies for the library. They do not own a copyright to those names and dates but they do own copyright to their publications, copying page by page is just not acceptable. The society spent time and money putting those lists together for their publication to sell to it's members, if someone wants to share the information then that someone needs to go get the lists themselves and put their own time in. This is not intended to abuse one person, this is intended as a reminder for us all to be careful about what we share, is it our work or someone elses. In Pike Co. we do have lots of volunteers who are very willing to share information either on list or on the Pike Co. site and I'm proud to be a part of that, but we do need to take care of what we post. It is very easy to make the mistake of thinking I have copies so I can share them or I found it online so I can share them, that's not always the case so it is something we do need to consider carefully. Debra Crosby -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AL-PIKE] Re: Please do not post copyrighted materials. I agree completely with the fact we should not post copy write materials, but if it is the Historical Society and they are of a mind to help the general public who does not have the ability to purchase or obtain copies of the material, then they themselves should post it for all of us to use. If these publications are still for sale and are selling, then I understand their reluctance, but I live in an area that does not subscribe to ALL of the HS publications. It is very helpful, sometimes for me to see this information on line, and hopefully at rootsweb were it is FREE. We can't beat this dead horse anymore...he is dead. The person posting was wrong, lets get back to what we are here for...and that is to LEARN from others and to help those that need it. MY 2 cents worth. John Lowery ==== ALPIKE Mailing List ==== Visit Pike Co. ALGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~alpike/
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Boutwell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QU.2ADI/3787.1.2 Message Board Post: Are you aware of the Boutwell-Bundy Cementery, about 1/2 mile south of Spring Hill off Hwy 87. Buried there is Zachariah Boutwell, Mary Boutwell, Tom boutwell, Babe King, John L Bundy, Wiliby Bundy and Dock Bundy, one grave with just Boutwell on it, one with a R on it and one unmarked grave (infant sister of Danny (Tip) Boutwell), Tip and his brother have put a marker on it now.
Sorry, but these names don't appear in my line so far. But, if I run across them, I'll let you know. Tonia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 8:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AL-PIKE] Re: Spring Hill, Pike County, Alabama This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Watson, Hulen Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QU.2ADI/3787.4.1 Message Board Post: Re: Your Watson Line, does this include Perkins H Watson married to Adeline Hulen, and his mother Pinice? ..Wanda... ==== ALPIKE Mailing List ==== Visit Pike Co. Alabama Archives for Pike Co. records: http://www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/al/pike.htm
I agree completely with the fact we should not post copy write materials, but if it is the Historical Society and they are of a mind to help the general public who does not have the ability to purchase or obtain copies of the material, then they themselves should post it for all of us to use. If these publications are still for sale and are selling, then I understand their reluctance, but I live in an area that does not subscribe to ALL of the HS publications. It is very helpful, sometimes for me to see this information on line, and hopefully at rootsweb were it is FREE. We can't beat this dead horse anymore...he is dead. The person posting was wrong, lets get back to what we are here for...and that is to LEARN from others and to help those that need it. MY 2 cents worth. John Lowery
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Watson, Hulen Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QU.2ADI/3787.4.1 Message Board Post: Re: Your Watson Line, does this include Perkins H Watson married to Adeline Hulen, and his mother Pinice? ..Wanda...
Has the Society sent out any publications for the 2006 membership?
Keep in mind that any information you can glean for yourself cannot be considered protected under a copyright law. Mary Shular Hopper Original Message: ----------------- From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:16:14 -0600 To: [email protected] Subject: [AL-PIKE] Re: Please do not post copyrighted materials. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QU.2ADI/3916.1.1 Message Board Post: Dale I will not go into a discussion of the law, if the Historical Society wishes to battle the legality that is up to them. However there is also an ethical issue, and coping and publishing entire pages of published material is not what I consider to be very ethical considering the Society has not given permission for it to be reprinted. In fact there has been complaints. Sharing one or two names on a list is not the same thing as copying their entire works. There is nothing to stop individuals from getting those rosters for themselves and sharing them. ==== ALPIKE Mailing List ==== Please remember anything posted on this list from ALArchives is automated from forms, please look for the contributor and reply to that person. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
This is clearly an infringement of copyright laws since it is listing all of the people from the publication, not just a small amount of the information. I think the law also states that you may not freely distribute the "small amount" of information gleaned from a publication. Plus the fact this is from a publication still available for purchase and the society should reap the benefits of publishing unless they have specifically granted the right to do so. Leslie
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QU.2ADI/3787.4 Message Board Post: My ancestors from Spring Hill are the Reddochs, Edwards, Watsons, and Simmons. Would love to share information with anyone about Springhill or these surnames. Tonia Porter