At 09:59 AM 9/10/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Kim, would you see if Rev. Jeremiah F. Johnson is listed in the ALABAMA >BAPTISTS book. Thanks. Cathy I did not find him in the Alabama Baptists or in Baptists in Alabama.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JU.2ADI/581.2 Message Board Post: Ruben Edwards (b. 3-15-1785, d. 8-20-1869) as well as his wife, Nancy (now I know what her maiden name was, b. 2-12-1777, d. 7-2-1854) are buried in the Edwards Cemetery in Marion, Union Parish, La. >From my aunt's Bible, it shows Ruben and Nancy's child as Miller Edwards (b. 11-8-1813, d. 3-5-1897) and married to Mary Ann Waters (b. 5-1-1817, d. 12-10-1859) and their children were George Washington (b. 1-15-1856, d. 3-23-1947) -- my g.gf, Martha b. 1835, Thomas b. 1837, Matilda b.1839, Nancy b. 1841, James b. 1846, Columbus b. 1847, John W b. 1853, Francis Marion b. 12-15-1857, d. 6-29-1935. Francis was married to Emily A. Nettles b. 10-27-1861, d. 5-29-1945 (they are buried at Edwards cemetery in Marion, La). Then Miller Edwards married Mahalia (Bilberry Brasher) I think and they had some children.

Kim, Please check your books for John C. Driver and his wife Permelia/Parmelia Driver. I think they were Methodist but am not sure. They lived in Western Perry Co. from about 1830 until his death in 1863. Permelia died first. his second wife, Elizabeth Brown, was a founding member of Newbern Baptist Church. I am trying to find out where he and Permelia and possibly two of his sons are buried. Thanks, John

Thanks for looking! -----Original Message----- From: Kim Blake [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ALPERRY] Churches in Alabama >Would you look up Carter Tubb (or maybe Tubbs) and see if there's >anything on him? Melissa Nothing on Tubb or Tubbs. Kim in AL ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== Trying to find a historical location in Perry County? Go to http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html and follow the instructions. You will be pleasantly surprised! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

>Would you look up Carter Tubb (or maybe Tubbs) and see if there's >anything on him? >Melissa Nothing on Tubb or Tubbs. Kim in AL

Thanks Kim...I appreciate you trying to find out about some of those names! You're a jewel!! Barb in GJ, CO

Barb, > DEESE/DEES/DEAS and HAMAKER None listed in the Baptist book. Not in Presb. index. Methodist - Cannie Roberta DEES married Rev. R. J. Coxwell 7 SEP 1897. > HOLLEY, John Wiley from Perry County Not in Baptist index. Not in Presb. index. Not in Meth. index. > MILLER, Alice Ann from whose father was Abraham MILLER Cole (he dropped >the Cole name) married to LaCOSTE, Mary Frances they were the ones that >started the MILLER POTTERY there in Perry county..that's supposedly still >alive and >thriving pottery business. Not in Baptist index. Not in Presb. index. Not in Meth. index. >Cleburne County, AL or near there: > COPELAND, William Warren married to BAUGHN, Susan E Not in Baptist index. Not in Presb. index. Not in Meth. index. > COPELAND, James Madison, married to WHITE, Lula Not in Baptist index. Not in Presb. index. Not in Meth. index. > MESSER, Burrell S, married to KENT, Clementine (father KENT, Ed mother >LYLER, Elizabeth) Not in Baptist index. Not in Presb. index. Not in Meth. index. Kim in AL

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JU.2ADI/860 Message Board Post: Tried to mail you directly but your e-mail did not go through - please see original post about this line - this is mine and I would be happy to share information with you all Cynthia Murray

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JU.2ADI/859 Message Board Post: The reason you all may be having trouble is because you have the last name incorrect - Amey White married William Watters not William Wallace - don't know where the wallace came from but here is this line - please mail me direct and I will help you all - Cynthia Murray Descendants of Amey White Generation No. 1 1. AMEY7 WHITE (JOHN6, JOHN5, HENRY4, JOHN3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 14 January 1810 in Elbert, Georgia, and died 23 March 1860 in Alto, Cherokee County, Texas. She married WILLIAM WATTERS 07 January 1830 in Perry County, Alabama, son of SAMUEL WATTERS and POLLY RADFORD. He was born 21 September 1805 in Ogelthorpe County, Georgia, and died 11 December 1859 in Cherokee County, Texas. More About AMEY WHITE: Burial: Harrison-Armstrong Cemetery in Cherokee County Notes for WILLIAM WATTERS: >From Louise Birchfield: Cynthia, you're right. His name is Watters. He's the son of Samuel Watters and Polly Anna Radford. Here's the 1850 Perry Co., AL census for William and Amy. I think the confusion probably came from someone trying to read very difficult-to-read writing. There are Texas connections for this family. Polly Anna Radford Watters was a sister to William Radford. William Radford's daughter Susan, married George H. Hanson and their children wound up in Texas and Arkansas. Another daughter, Winnie, married John Oakes. Their family moved to Limestone Co., Texas. The widow and children of William's son, William Tarpley, moved to Freestone Co., Texas. John Oakes father, William Oakes, was the guardian of Nancy Cross Huff and her brother, James Franklin Cross. They also wound up in Texas. She was in Navarro Co. and he and his secnd wife, Sarah Brittain Watters, died in Hunt Co., Texas. I am so far behind in updating my FTM files. I'm not sure who the parents were of James Franklin Cross', Sarah Brittain Watters but I probably have it somewhere. As you can see, there are many family connections to those people who left Perry Co. and came west. I'll see if I can find William and Amy in a Texas census so he can see that they're the same Perry Co. folks. I'll let you know whether or not I find Texas census records for this family. Feel free to share this with others. Louise In checking my files for Darryl, I have the name of Amy's husband as Watters not Wallace - will start going through my files but any help you have will be appreciated - since I am new to the Perry county board, must get up to speed here fast - sorry to be so slow Cynthia More About WILLIAM WATTERS and AMEY WHITE: Marriage: 07 January 1830, Perry County, Alabama Children of AMEY WHITE and WILLIAM WATTERS are: i. JAMES MADISON8 WATTERS, b. 20 December 1830. ii. ANN CATHERINE WATTERS, b. 28 August 1832, Perry County, Alabama; d. 10 September 1906, Alto, Cherokee County, Texas; m. JOHN WILLIAM RICHARDSON, 25 October 1851, Perry County, Alabama. More About JOHN RICHARDSON and ANN WATTERS: Marriage: 25 October 1851, Perry County, Alabama iii. JOHN WHITE WATTERS, b. 08 November 1833, Perry County, Alabama; d. 15 September 1895, Falls County, Texas; m. MELINDA C. SEAY, 19 September 1860, Cherokee County, Texas. More About JOHN WATTERS and MELINDA SEAY: Marriage: 19 September 1860, Cherokee County, Texas iv. JANE ELMIRA WATTERS, b. 17 July 1835; d. 1909, Polock, Angelina County, Texas; m. JOHN MORRIS FINLEY, 09 February 1860, Cherokee County, Texas. More About JOHN FINLEY and JANE WATTERS: Marriage: 09 February 1860, Cherokee County, Texas v. SAMUEL REUBEN JACKSON WATTERS, b. 26 January 1837. vi. MARGARET ELIZABETH WATTERS, b. 13 January 1839. vii. MALACHI CALHOUN WATTERS, b. 27 December 1840; d. 06 August 1921, Alto, Cherokee County, Texas; m. ALMA ZONE HOUSTON, 27 December 1866, Cherokee County, Texas. More About MALACHI WATTERS and ALMA HOUSTON: Marriage: 27 December 1866, Cherokee County, Texas viii. PENELOPE PETURA WATTERS, b. 15 November 1842; d. 31 July 1864, Alto, Cherokee County, Texas; m. EDWARD D. MANNING, 20 September 1860, Cherokee County, Texas. More About EDWARD MANNING and PENELOPE WATTERS: Marriage: 20 September 1860, Cherokee County, Texas ix. WILLIAM CORNELIUS WATTERS, b. 01 January 1844; d. 1934, Alto, Cherokee County, Texas; m. PATIENCE ELIZABETH SPAIN, 18 January 1877, Cherokee County, Texas. More About WILLIAM WATTERS and PATIENCE SPAIN: Marriage: 18 January 1877, Cherokee County, Texas x. ZACHARIAH REEVES WATTERS, b. 20 November 1845; d. 20 January 1921, Orleans Parish, Louisiana. More About ZACHARIAH REEVES WATTERS: Burial: Alto City Cemetery, Cherokee County, Texas xi. AMY BALSORA WATTERS, b. 06 August 1847; d. 1933, Pollock, Angelina County, Texas; m. ROBERT FINLEY, 1867, Angelina County, Texas. More About AMY BALSORA WATTERS: Burial: Gann Cemetery, Angelina County, Texas More About ROBERT FINLEY and AMY WATTERS: Marriage: 1867, Angelina County, Texas xii. SARAH ETTA WATTERS, b. 27 August 1850; d. 1910, Dimmitt, Castro County, Texas; m. ROBERT JORDAN RAMEY, 20 December 1871, Cherokee County, Texas. More About ROBERT RAMEY and SARAH WATTERS: Marriage: 20 December 1871, Cherokee County, Texas

Kim- How nice and generous you are with your time!! Could you please check for WEAVER, COLE, PHILLIPS, or MAYES in the church indexes?? They were probably Baptist. Thanks! Nancy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: watters, richardson, harkins Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.netscape.com/mbexec/msg/4317/JU.2ADI/638.1.1 Message Board Post: Ann Catherine Watters richardson was my great grandmother. I think her parents were married in 1830. Ann Catherine and her husband are also buried at Harrison Armstrong Cemetery in Alto, Cherokee County, Texas. some of her children are also buried there. my grandmother was her youngest child, Laura Alma, who married W.S. Satterwhite If I am not mistaken the Harkins family lived in Oklahoma, somewhere near Eldorado.

Kim, would you see if Rev. Jeremiah F. Johnson is listed in the ALABAMA BAPTISTS book. Thanks. Cathy

Kim, Would you look up Carter Tubb (or maybe Tubbs) and see if there's anything on him? Thanks, Melissa -----Original Message----- From: Kim Blake [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 12:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ALPERRY] Churches in Alabama I have three church books from the library that have name indexes. I would be glad to do look-ups. Alabama Baptists: Southern Baptists in the Heart of Dixie (1800-1998) by Wayne Flynt History of Methodism in Alabama and West Florida (1803-1959) by Marion Elias Lazenby The Presbyterian Church in Alabama (1811-1936) by John Williams Marshall Kim in AL ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== Do not send virus or worm warnings, poems, jokes or other non-related topics to this list. For more information, contact List Owner, Lloyd Heard, [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

>Could you look up James LEE, married to Katherine Caroline? They were >living in Tallapoosa Co in 1870, and Perry Co. in 1880. > >Susan No specific James Lee or Katherine. I did find a J.D. Lee who entered the Alabama Conference of the Methodist church in 1829 at a conference meeting held near Smith's Ferry in Perry County on "Cahawba River".

Hi Barb, I have a Grant's Creek connection too. My gggggg grandfather James Foster was a founder, along with several others that included some of his brothers and his mother. I have a picture of James Foster's grave at Grant's Creek up on my website (http://www.perigee.net/~mlatour). Unfortunately it's not the best picture, but hopefully one day I'll get back there to take a few more pictures. Melissa -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALPERRY] Churches in Alabama Kim...this is wonderful! Do you show anything about the 'Grants Creek Baptist Church - Fosters, Tuscaloosa, AL'? My families were DEESE/DEES/DEAS and HAMAKER's they supposedly built it too How bout these names: HOLLEY, John Wiley from Perry County MILLER, Alice Ann from whose father was Abraham MILLER Cole (he dropped the Cole name) married to LaCOSTE, Mary Frances they were the ones that started the MILLER POTTERY there in Perry county..that's supposedly still alive and thriving pottery business. Can't seem to get in touch with any of the cousins who still live there. Cleburne County, AL or near there: COPELAND, William Warren married to BAUGHN, Susan E COPELAND, James Madison, married to WHITE, Lula MESSER, Burrell S, married to KENT, Clementine (father KENT, Ed mother LYLER, Elizabeth) I know this is alot.....but thought I'd list who I had. Most of my whole family is from AL/GA area. on BOTH sides. Go figure! Thanks so much for your time and generous offer! Barb Dalton, GJ, CO [email protected] ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== Do not send virus or worm warnings, poems, jokes or other non-related topics to this list. For more information, contact List Owner, Lloyd Heard, [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Kim...this is wonderful! Do you show anything about the 'Grants Creek Baptist Church - Fosters, Tuscaloosa, AL'? My families were DEESE/DEES/DEAS and HAMAKER's they supposedly built it too How bout these names: HOLLEY, John Wiley from Perry County MILLER, Alice Ann from whose father was Abraham MILLER Cole (he dropped the Cole name) married to LaCOSTE, Mary Frances they were the ones that started the MILLER POTTERY there in Perry county..that's supposedly still alive and thriving pottery business. Can't seem to get in touch with any of the cousins who still live there. Cleburne County, AL or near there: COPELAND, William Warren married to BAUGHN, Susan E COPELAND, James Madison, married to WHITE, Lula MESSER, Burrell S, married to KENT, Clementine (father KENT, Ed mother LYLER, Elizabeth) I know this is alot.....but thought I'd list who I had. Most of my whole family is from AL/GA area. on BOTH sides. Go figure! Thanks so much for your time and generous offer! Barb Dalton, GJ, CO [email protected]

Kim, Could you look up James LEE, married to Katherine Caroline? They were living in Tallapoosa Co in 1870, and Perry Co. in 1880. Thank you so much for doing these look-ups!! Susan

Bonnie, What Cole's are you researching? I have Cole ancestors that came from Texas to Perry/Hale Co. in the early 1820's. Melissa -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie Mitchell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 6:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ALPERRY] Name index f(Churches in Alabama) Kim, Thanks for doing the lookups. Do you have any Cole listings? Bonnie ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list, it won't work. Contact List Owner if you have forgotten how to unsubscribe. Lloyd Heard at [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Kim, Thank you very much for volunteering to do these lookups!! In the Alabama Baptists' book, does it show any of the following?: Henry Oliver Haggard (1817-1868), Noah Haggard (1788-1866), Henry H. Haggard(1746-1842) These are son, father and grandfather, all Baptist preachers. The son of Henry Oliver Haggard, James Worthy Haggard, was also a preacher, but not sure if he was Baptist or had flown the coop into Methodism since he is buried in a Methodist Church cemetery in Hale County, Alabama. Thanks again for doing these lookups!! Have a Happy!! Lloyd Heard

> Do you have any Cole listings? >Bonnie Presbyterian index - none Baptist index - none Methodist: COLE - Helen married J.R. Watson 1919 Houston-president Jacksonville State Teacher's College 1955 James - layman Talladega circuit 1830s-1840's James A.-entered ministry 1870 and died 1880 J.B.-received into the conference on trial 1903 John B.-admitted to conference 1871 William - Walker County 1830's W.L. Jr. - admitted to conference 1958