This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JU.2ADI/898.1.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi John: Thanks for your response to my message. My email address is cls81345@bellsouth.net. I look forward to hearing from you. I know about Monroe but I do not know about Mary Jane. Thanks. Louise Steele

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WILSON, PATRICK, NORRIS, THOMAS, COOK, RICHARDSON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JU.2ADI/898.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Contact me, we are working the same line. Two of Robert & Sarah's children are in my line Monroe & Mary Jane

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Varnell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JU.2ADI/529.2.2.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Received you message. Sent you a message to your personal email that I hope might help you in your search. Keep in touch. James

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Varnell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JU.2ADI/529.2.2.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi there. My husband is related to some Varnells in Alabama and we are too looking for his family connection. His grandmother was Armaguard Varnell. Her brother is Coleman Varnell. We know we are related to some arnells that live on the reservation in OK bu are struggling to find all the connections. His grandmother married James Dewey Lemley in Alabama. Hopefully we can get together with this information and find the connections we are looking for. My name is Amy my husband is Gene. Good Luck on th search.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JU.2ADI/924.1.1 Message Board Post: Nina, thank you for your interest in my search. Yes, I have the census information. Thanks for asking. Since I posted my query, I have found someone who is helping me to connect with Sarah, so I don't need further assistance. The efficiency of the internet, in providing information, is just astounding to me. We're fortunate to have this as a resource.

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This from another mail list; might be a helpful source ~ Caroline www.copies1918.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JU.2ADI/924 Message Board Post: Seeking information about Sarah Lee of Breezy Point Farm in Hamburg Alabama. She corresponded with my uncle in 1940's and I'd like to find her and/or her descendants. Lee is her maiden name. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Hi, Sharon, I'm not real sure what race she was but family lore always said my grandmother was part Indian. I have now gotten information that the Indian came from her mother's side and that her mother was half Indian. If that is true, I would guess that Martha was Indian. I also have a picture of her from "The Heritage of Perry Co." and she certainly appears to be Indian. Do you have anything at all on her? I have quite a bit of info on the Tubb & Tucker families but nothing on her. Faye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Cobb" <sharonc@planters.net> To: <ALPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [ALPERRY] Griffin settlement > Hey Faye > > What race was Martha considered? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Faye Adkins" <parrothead@gulftel.com> > To: <ALPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 3:55 PM > Subject: [ALPERRY] Griffin settlement > > > > I, too, am curious about this Griffin settlement. My GG grandmother was > Martha Griffin b. 1828 in AL. I do not know death date or parents names. > She m. Thomas Wherry who died in 1851 and married Samuel Sanders Tubb 5 Sep > 1853 in Perry Co., AL. Samuel Tubb was my GG grandfather. Does anyone know > if Martha was a part of this Griffin family? Thanks in advance for > anything. I am at a real brick wall with her. > > > > Faye Adkins > > > > > > ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== > > Trying to find a historical location in Perry County? > > Go to http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html and follow the > instructions. > > You will be pleasantly surprised! > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== > Do not send virus or worm warnings, poems, jokes or other non-related topics to this list. For more information, contact List Owner, Lloyd Heard, jlheard@texramp.net > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hey Faye What race was Martha considered? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Faye Adkins" <parrothead@gulftel.com> To: <ALPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 3:55 PM Subject: [ALPERRY] Griffin settlement > I, too, am curious about this Griffin settlement. My GG grandmother was Martha Griffin b. 1828 in AL. I do not know death date or parents names. She m. Thomas Wherry who died in 1851 and married Samuel Sanders Tubb 5 Sep 1853 in Perry Co., AL. Samuel Tubb was my GG grandfather. Does anyone know if Martha was a part of this Griffin family? Thanks in advance for anything. I am at a real brick wall with her. > > Faye Adkins > > > ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== > Trying to find a historical location in Perry County? > Go to http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html and follow the instructions. > You will be pleasantly surprised! > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

I, too, am curious about this Griffin settlement. My GG grandmother was Martha Griffin b. 1828 in AL. I do not know death date or parents names. She m. Thomas Wherry who died in 1851 and married Samuel Sanders Tubb 5 Sep 1853 in Perry Co., AL. Samuel Tubb was my GG grandfather. Does anyone know if Martha was a part of this Griffin family? Thanks in advance for anything. I am at a real brick wall with her. Faye Adkins

Hey Sybil No..its the same family They started in Hale, lines moved and it became Perry and then when the "mulatto" race designation began, the mulatto line moved back out into Hale, near Moundville. Do you remember anything that your mom said about this place? Thanks sharon

I remember my mother speaking of a community as Griffin Town. I always had the idea that it was in Hale County and maybe nearer Moundville. This could possibly be 2 different families/communities. I have no one left that I could ask. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Cobb" <sharonc@planters.net> To: <ALPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:14 AM Subject: [ALPERRY] The Griffin Settlement/Elliot Creek School/Mulatto Griffins > Hey All > > I'm new to list but been doing some research off and on. I'm looking for information concerning Joshua and Aaron Griffin. They were two mulatto boys that were listed in Archibald H. (Baldy) household all of their lives until grown. They were free inhabitants. In later years, Sarah Ann ( Archibald's oldest white daughter ) was seen in the home of both boys on the census listed as mother. > > I have heard tales that these boys were: > > 1. Children of a slave named Dawes/Doss Dixon/Dickson or Dixon Doss. The only thing to uphold this rumor is that Joshua named a son John Doss/Dawes. I'm unsure of the correct spelling. > > 2. Children were black dutch > > 3. Children were Cherokee > > My father has recently told me that they lived out in "The Griffin Settlement". I had heard years ago about the Griffin Settlement and that it was where all the half and half Griffins lived but had not associated it with Joshua and Aaron. As it turns out, according to my father, that is who started the settlement because they were pretty much outcast. The settlement had its on school called The Elliot Creek School and the Griffin's paid teachers. One by the name of Professor Little and the last teacher being a female but he can not remember her name. The children were not allowed in public school. And as the family grew, married and had more children..they all continued to go to school there up until somewhere in my fathers generation. > > Joshua would have been born around 1839 and Aaron around 1847 according to the census they were both born in Alabama. > > Is there anyone on the list that knows anything about this at all? Is there anyone that can make a trip to the courthouse for me and look up a possible bastard bond/bastardly bonds for Sarah Ann Griffin and these boys? Marriage license of the boys that might show parents names? I'm not sure when they died so I don't know if birth certificates would have been issued. Desperately seeking help. I live in Ga. and I just don't think the information I need is going to be found online anywhere. If it is, I haven't found it in the last 6 years. I think they may have been in Hale county prior to Perry. Seems the change in county lines put them over in Perry. > > Thanks so much > Sharon Griffin-Cobb > > > ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== > Personal comments, flaming others, inappropriate messages are not tolerated on our friendly list. This is the only warning given! For more information, please contact the List Administrator, Lloyd Heard, jlheard@texramp.net > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Swindle Swindell Swindale Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JU.2ADI/923 Message Board Post: I am looking for someone who would be willing to try and locate a death record for Mary Swindle who was in the 1850 and 1860 cenus of Perry county. It is assumed she died there before 1870.

Hey All I'm new to list but been doing some research off and on. I'm looking for information concerning Joshua and Aaron Griffin. They were two mulatto boys that were listed in Archibald H. (Baldy) household all of their lives until grown. They were free inhabitants. In later years, Sarah Ann ( Archibald's oldest white daughter ) was seen in the home of both boys on the census listed as mother. I have heard tales that these boys were: 1. Children of a slave named Dawes/Doss Dixon/Dickson or Dixon Doss. The only thing to uphold this rumor is that Joshua named a son John Doss/Dawes. I'm unsure of the correct spelling. 2. Children were black dutch 3. Children were Cherokee My father has recently told me that they lived out in "The Griffin Settlement". I had heard years ago about the Griffin Settlement and that it was where all the half and half Griffins lived but had not associated it with Joshua and Aaron. As it turns out, according to my father, that is who started the settlement because they were pretty much outcast. The settlement had its on school called The Elliot Creek School and the Griffin's paid teachers. One by the name of Professor Little and the last teacher being a female but he can not remember her name. The children were not allowed in public school. And as the family grew, married and had more children..they all continued to go to school there up until somewhere in my fathers generation. Joshua would have been born around 1839 and Aaron around 1847 according to the census they were both born in Alabama. Is there anyone on the list that knows anything about this at all? Is there anyone that can make a trip to the courthouse for me and look up a possible bastard bond/bastardly bonds for Sarah Ann Griffin and these boys? Marriage license of the boys that might show parents names? I'm not sure when they died so I don't know if birth certificates would have been issued. Desperately seeking help. I live in Ga. and I just don't think the information I need is going to be found online anywhere. If it is, I haven't found it in the last 6 years. I think they may have been in Hale county prior to Perry. Seems the change in county lines put them over in Perry. Thanks so much Sharon Griffin-Cobb

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JU.2ADI/922 Message Board Post: Hey Everyone I'm still researching! lol Okay, I'm looking for any information on The Griffin Settlement around Hale and/or Perry County Alabama. This settlement was "where the half and half griffin's" lived. They were not allowed to go to public school so they had their own school known as The Elliot Creek School. The Griffin's that started this "settlement" were descendants of Archibald Hilary Griffin. His daughter Sarah Ann, had two children listed as mulatto; Aaron and Joshua. These children were born in 1847 ( Aaron) and 1839 (Joshua). They can be found on the Perry county census 5 Mile Roll 12 Book 1 (page 8 and 9) They can also be found in the 1860 census Perry County, Five Mile Roll 20 Book 1 page 510. Archibald did own slaves. But during those time no slave names were listed. I would love to find a will that might offer such a listing. Does anyone have access to such files? In later years Sarah Ann can be found in the household of either boy listed as mother. Problem is, I'd love to know who the father was. There are rumors that he was a slave by the name of Dawes Dixon of Dixon Dawes/Doss or some variation of such spelling. No proof at the present time other than to say that Joshua named one of his children John Doss/Dawes. These descendants grew up being told they were "black dutch" and "cherokee". They were listed as mulatto on census. Their mother was listed as white daughter of Archibald Hilary. Many Duncans married into this line as well, Lilly Duncan married Lee Griffin, son of Joshua. Lilly's sister married Newborn Griffin, son of Aaron. Margaret Duncan, daughter of Lilly Duncan married Thomas Edgar Griffin, son of Aaron. If anyone knows ANYTHING about this...rumor or documented proof..please let me know. Thanks so much Sharon Griffin-Cobb

The Alabama Archive website has most of them listed. Most of the Perry County boys served in the same company and fought in most of the major battles. My great grandfather William David Hopkins was about 19 years old during the war. I did not believe all the battles he was in until I did further research. It was amazing. Linda Davis Amelia Island, Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacqueline Kersh" <jkersh@stetson.edu> To: <ALPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 0921 Subject: [ALPERRY] Confederate Deaths > Does anyone know an on-line source for Confederate deaths in the Civil > War? I have one ancestor I can't find after 1860 and he would be the > right age to have fought in the war. > Jackie Kersh > > > > ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== > Trying to find a historical location in Perry County? > Go to http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html and follow the instructions. > You will be pleasantly surprised! > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Does anyone know an on-line source for Confederate deaths in the Civil War? I have one ancestor I can't find after 1860 and he would be the right age to have fought in the war. Jackie Kersh

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JU.2ADI/98.1 Message Board Post: If you have not not gotten the information on John Robert Tidwell and Charlsey Ann Day, I can help. He was my gr-gr-grandfather.