Rachel.....I may be the woman you have corresponded with...I descend from Joseph M. Heard and Mary Edmonds.mmst.........mmstths@classicnet.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <HGRACE5366@aol.com> To: <ALPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [ALPERRY] genealogy > Linda, > One of my husband's line is Edmonds. There was a Mary Edmonds who married a > John Heard/Hurd. There is a lady who I have talked to who is descended from > this line. > Rachel > > > ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== > Personal comments, flaming others, inappropriate messages are not tolerated on our friendly list. This is the only warning given! For more information, please contact the List Administrator, Lloyd Heard, jlheard@texramp.net > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Linda, One of my husband's line is Edmonds. There was a Mary Edmonds who married a John Heard/Hurd. There is a lady who I have talked to who is descended from this line. Rachel

Yes, it is Joseph M. I did not even realize that I had written John. ld ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Margaret Selig-Trahan Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 10:31 AM To: ALPERRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALPERRY] genealogy Linda when you say John Hurd marrying Mary Edmonds, do you mean Joseph M. instead or is this some other couple you are talking about. mm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Davis" <ldavis8@msn.com> To: <ALPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [ALPERRY] genealogy > Mattie, > > Ellen's last name could have been Barron as there was a large family by that name in Perry County. > > The website has John Hurd married Mary Edmonds....that is the way it was recorded in the marriage book, but my great great grandparents were John Heard and Mary Edwards who were married very early in the Perry County... March 3, 1824. There were no Edmonds that early in the county so we believe that she was part of the Edwards line that settled very early in Perry County. If she was an Edmonds, she doesn't connect to any of the Edmonds that came later....we have checked and Edmonds just doesn't work. > > On another branch, my grandfather Silas H. Thompson was recorded as Cyrus A. Thompson in another state's census. I guess the census taker just did not hear it correctly. > > Yet, another was my great great great grandmother was listed as Jane Canter on a Georgia website but her maiden name was Carter. I knew that but the man who was so nice to transcribe that old marriage book for the county website did not know that....it looked like Canter to him. > > Hope this helps with your research. Check 1870 census for the name Barron and see if that fits. Ellen may be in the a Barron household. > > Linda Davis > Amelia Island, Florida > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MattieThomas@webtv.net > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 6:12 PM > To: ALPERRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ALPERRY] genealogy > > would some kind persom look up George Washington Hughey and > Ellen(Brazier or Barrin) Marriage License or certificate.The family > bible has Brazier but some Web e-mail showed Barrin.They were married > Sept.24,1871.they were my grandparents > This is in Marion,Al. Thanks for any help. > Mattie > > > ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== > Have a complaint about this list or another member? Contact me, Lloyd Heard, jlheard@texramp.net > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== > This is a historical and genealogical discussion list, please feel free to use it to share your information. List Manager, Lloyd Heard at jlheard@texramp.net > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== Do not send virus or worm warnings, poems, jokes or other non-related topics to this list. For more information, contact List Owner, Lloyd Heard, jlheard@texramp.net ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Linda when you say John Hurd marrying Mary Edmonds, do you mean Joseph M. instead or is this some other couple you are talking about. mm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Davis" <ldavis8@msn.com> To: <ALPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [ALPERRY] genealogy > Mattie, > > Ellen's last name could have been Barron as there was a large family by that name in Perry County. > > The website has John Hurd married Mary Edmonds....that is the way it was recorded in the marriage book, but my great great grandparents were John Heard and Mary Edwards who were married very early in the Perry County... March 3, 1824. There were no Edmonds that early in the county so we believe that she was part of the Edwards line that settled very early in Perry County. If she was an Edmonds, she doesn't connect to any of the Edmonds that came later....we have checked and Edmonds just doesn't work. > > On another branch, my grandfather Silas H. Thompson was recorded as Cyrus A. Thompson in another state's census. I guess the census taker just did not hear it correctly. > > Yet, another was my great great great grandmother was listed as Jane Canter on a Georgia website but her maiden name was Carter. I knew that but the man who was so nice to transcribe that old marriage book for the county website did not know that....it looked like Canter to him. > > Hope this helps with your research. Check 1870 census for the name Barron and see if that fits. Ellen may be in the a Barron household. > > Linda Davis > Amelia Island, Florida > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MattieThomas@webtv.net > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 6:12 PM > To: ALPERRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ALPERRY] genealogy > > would some kind persom look up George Washington Hughey and > Ellen(Brazier or Barrin) Marriage License or certificate.The family > bible has Brazier but some Web e-mail showed Barrin.They were married > Sept.24,1871.they were my grandparents > This is in Marion,Al. Thanks for any help. > Mattie > > > ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== > Have a complaint about this list or another member? Contact me, Lloyd Heard, jlheard@texramp.net > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== > This is a historical and genealogical discussion list, please feel free to use it to share your information. List Manager, Lloyd Heard at jlheard@texramp.net > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Linda,Thank tou very much.I will try your suggestion. Mattie

Mattie, Ellen's last name could have been Barron as there was a large family by that name in Perry County. The website has John Hurd married Mary Edmonds....that is the way it was recorded in the marriage book, but my great great grandparents were John Heard and Mary Edwards who were married very early in the Perry County... March 3, 1824. There were no Edmonds that early in the county so we believe that she was part of the Edwards line that settled very early in Perry County. If she was an Edmonds, she doesn't connect to any of the Edmonds that came later....we have checked and Edmonds just doesn't work. On another branch, my grandfather Silas H. Thompson was recorded as Cyrus A. Thompson in another state's census. I guess the census taker just did not hear it correctly. Yet, another was my great great great grandmother was listed as Jane Canter on a Georgia website but her maiden name was Carter. I knew that but the man who was so nice to transcribe that old marriage book for the county website did not know that....it looked like Canter to him. Hope this helps with your research. Check 1870 census for the name Barron and see if that fits. Ellen may be in the a Barron household. Linda Davis Amelia Island, Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: MattieThomas@webtv.net Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 6:12 PM To: ALPERRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALPERRY] genealogy would some kind persom look up George Washington Hughey and Ellen(Brazier or Barrin) Marriage License or certificate.The family bible has Brazier but some Web e-mail showed Barrin.They were married Sept.24,1871.they were my grandparents This is in Marion,Al. Thanks for any help. Mattie ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== Have a complaint about this list or another member? Contact me, Lloyd Heard, jlheard@texramp.net ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Census Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JU.2ADI/931 Message Board Post: The USGenWeb Census Project is pleased to announce the completion of the following census transcription. 1850 Perry County http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/al/perry/1850/ Abstracted by Hugh LeBaron, Second Transcriber Needed This transcription was made available due to the dedication and effort of the transcriber(s) and will now benefit researchers everywhere. Other New Additions to the project are online at http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/nu/index.htm Please visit the USGenWeb Census Project at http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/ if you are interested in transcribing any county of any federal census records. Copies of all transcriptions done for this project are submitted to the appropriate state File Manager for inclusion in the USGenWeb Archives. Sincerely, Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman Coordinator, USGenWeb Census Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/

Jim: I checked my SMITH data base and could not locate your Bryant. There are several men named Thomas. I went to the census record and noticed that Bryant was born in North Carolina. My Smith family was in South Carolina before settling in Perry County, AL around 1830. Many of them stayed in Alabama, but my line (Mathew & Bethenia Smith) migrated to Mississippi around 1858, and many of them stayed in that area. My great-grandfather (John Frederick Smith) migrated to Texas circa 1894. Larry

Just read the post re the Campbelite Church and cemetery. I have Solomon Smith b. 1785 in SC and moved to Perry Co. in 1835. Reputedly his maybe half brother was Samuel Smith a Campbelite farmer. Does anyone have a cemetery list for this? I've been brick walled for years and any help would be much appreciated. You can email me direct at _hondo108@aol.com_ (mailto:hondo108@aol.com) . Mary

Larry My Smith Line is from Perry Co. around that time. My Line Starts with Bryant Smith. I can find him on the 1830 census 1850 census and the 1860 census. The 1860 census list 5 children 1. Marry age 19 2. Thomas age 17 3. Matilda age 14 4. Rebecca age 11 5. Adeline age 7 No wife is listed on this census and all previous census only list by name the head of house. There is some debate as to his wife's name. There is a cemetery in Perry Co. that is named The Smith Cemetery (Formerly named Campbellite Church) the church is now extinct. The cemetery is kept in very fine condition and has been used for the Smith family as late as the 1960s maybe even later. I and quite a few more people have a lot of information on this line if you think it is connected to your Smith line. Jim Jones JJones8368@aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JU.2ADI/278.1 Message Board Post: One child of Serena Holifield and James Anderson Boyles was Joel Andrew Bemorse Boyles, born around 1860 and died in 1935. He married Martha Jane Permenter b) Aug 21 1864 d) Jan 7 1902. Their youngest child, Allie Mozelle Boyles b) Nov 3 1898 d) Oct 28 1991, was my great grandmother. She loved to tell us stories when my family visited her. You can find allies name on the ancestry world tree by typing in Victor Raynor Windham (her husband). A brother, Andrew Boyles 1888-1973 was a Methodist Preacher like James Anderson Boyles. This family is burried in Homewood cemetary near Forest Mississippi. I can receive more information from my grandmother and from a church booklet written by Uncle Andrew that has some family information in it.

would some kind persom look up George Washington Hughey and Ellen(Brazier or Barrin) Marriage License or certificate.The family bible has Brazier but some Web e-mail showed Barrin.They were married Sept.24,1871.they were my grandparents This is in Marion,Al. Thanks for any help. Mattie

Hello! I am new to the list. I am researching my husband's Perry ancestors in Perry County. I am interested in finding out more about the Perrys who moved from Franklin County, NC to Perry County AL prior to 1865, bringing their slaves with them. Those slaves would have included my husband's ancestors. His great grandmother, Endie Perry and her brother, Spence Perry, were born in NC according to 1870, 1880 and 1900 Perry County census records. Spence Perry's daughter, Lula Perry Ervin, died in 1996 in Bibb County at the age of 104. Prior to her death, she had related to us the story of how the Perrys came to North Carolina, however she did not know the first names. If anyone has information on what NC Perry families moved to Perry County and the plantations that they owned, please let me know. I would like to obtain plantation records if available. I am also curious to know if the Oliver Hazard Perry, the War of 1812 hero after whom the county was named, is related to the NC Perrys. I have seen the name of an Oliver Hazard Perry who lived here, but he was much younger.

I would like to hear from any descendants of the Smith family that lived in Perry County in the 1830s. They migrated to Perry County from South Carolina. Their names include: Mark, Sarah, Thomas, Mathew, Levi, Luke, Daniel, George, Rosannah, Mary Ann, Dolly. After county line changes, many of them were found in Hale County. Some descendants went on to Mississippi and eventually to Texas. Some collateral names include Shaffer, Terry, Sims, Tidmore, McFarland, Richardson, Fisher, Jenkins, Larry Wilson

Following was my response to the original message: Do you happen to know what the "M" stands for?  My SIMS ancestors lived in Perry County, AL.  I have found them difficult to research, so the records of the family came from others who had "bits and pieces" that we put together. My 3g-grandfather was Greene Sims (1770-1831), born in Virginia and died in Greene County, AL.  I have a list of eight children - 5 boys, 3 girls.  I have some scant information on some of the boys.  I have one listed as Miles Sims - but no further information.  Most of them migated elsewhere.  Some landed in Greene County, AL;  others, including my 2g-grandmother, went on to Mississippi between 1858-60.  They are recorded in Oktibbeha and Choctaw Counties.  She lived with a daughter in Webster County in 1880.  This could provide some clues for you to persue. Larry

Hi Jennifer, I have William W. Sims in North Perry and what became Hale County in that same time frame, unfortunately I don't know his parents either, except that the census says they were from Georgia. Do you know any siblings or anything else? My William W. Sims was born Feb. 7 1809 in GA, married Susannah Pool in Perry County Sept 26 1833 and they had the following children: Emily Jane Martha Elizabeth Wilkins Washington Mary Arrenia William Henry Any of this sound related? This is a line that I have not done a lot of work on yet. Melissa -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jjsjjsjjsjjs@msn.com Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 1:44 AM To: ALPERRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALPERRY] SIMS, Harrison M. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SIMS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JU.2ADI/929 Message Board Post: I tried this in '01 thought I'd try it again:) Does anyone know Harrison M. Sims, married to Louisa Phillips of Autaugua County? He had land patents in Perry in '58 - '60. I'm still looking for his parents. I believe from GA. jenniferSIMS ==== ALPERRY Mailing List ==== Shake your family tree and watch the nuts fall!! ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SIMS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JU.2ADI/929 Message Board Post: I tried this in '01 thought I'd try it again:) Does anyone know Harrison M. Sims, married to Louisa Phillips of Autaugua County? He had land patents in Perry in '58 - '60. I'm still looking for his parents. I believe from GA. jenniferSIMS

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JU.2ADI/928 Message Board Post: I'm looking for relatives of James Hutchins who lived in Severe Beat Ala in 1850 (Federal Census).My Great Grandfather Thomas Hutchins was one of his sons.Thomas married Margaret A.V. Oliver in 1865 in Jefferson Co. Alabama.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Holman,Hannah, Davis Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JU.2ADI/927 Message Board Post: Had children Samuel Milton Holman,Isaac, Betsy ,Russell, Dora,Alice, Noah,and Luella Holman. Any info will be appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Holman,Hannah, Davis Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JU.2ADI/926 Message Board Post: Dates are not exact. They were married and moved to Ga. Had children, William Washington,Carolina, Nancy, Sarah,David M, Issac Holman. Any information will be appreciated.