I sure hate bothering you all AGAIN. But then I was in the process of updating counties when this came thru...guess there's no rest for the wicked<GR> I thought abt this all morning and decided you should not be left in the dark. I want your opinions on the matter but please send them directly to me...I will make a webpage where all views can be seen. This way if you are interested you know what is being said, if not then you will not be bothered on the mail list. RootsWeb has merged with MyFamily.com - I will include the email that came thru so you know what was said. I am keeping close watch on views of other listowners...I will not voice my opinion at this time as I would not want to sway an opinion in either direction. Please email me at HudsonK@aol.com Thank you Kathy, Listowner <<<Good News, Bad News, Good News: RootsWeb and MyFamily.com Merger Good news: You, our contributors, with your financial support, have helped create at RootsWeb one of the largest and most popular sites on the Internet. In May, we had over 149 million page views (according to Nielsen NetRatings combined home and work statistics), sent over 155 million e-mails, and handled over two million downloads of files from the various archives hosted at RootsWeb. Everyone, take a bow! This is an incredible community of genealogists, and the advances we're all making in our research due to the sharing that occurs here is unprecedented. Bad news: The more popular RootsWeb becomes, the more costly it is to simply stay alive and online. Even with your generous support, expenses continue to exceed revenue. We ran up a truly scary loss last year. Without outside help, it's not clear how long we'd be able to go on like this. Good news: MyFamily.com (you may know them better as Ancestry.com) recognizes the importance of the genealogical community that has grown here at RootsWeb, and wants that community to continue to thrive. They're excited to provide the financial stability we need to ensure RootsWeb will be around for years to come. Brian and I are pleased by Ancestry.com's coming involvement with RootsWeb. Now we can all focus on helping each other on the mailing lists and message boards, uploading our GEDCOMs, and building Web pages to share our research. More good news: No one is going to charge you to use RootsWeb. You'll still find RootsWeb at www.RootsWeb.com. Everything you're used to using will still be here: the 19,000 mailing lists, the hundreds of millions of names in free genealogy databases, the interactive learning guides, the weekly RootsWeb Review and Missing Links, the numerous tools for tracing your family history, the tens of thousands of message boards, the thousands of independently authored web sites. RootsWeb will still support worthy genealogy projects and societies, such as the USGenWeb Project (www.USGenWeb.org), the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild (ISTG.rootsweb.com) and the FreeBMD Project (FreeBMD.rootsweb.com), and other groups that provide free genealogical resources. You will of course still get all of services and benefits we promised you, such as mailing lists and access to PML, the feature that scans all our mailing lists and message boards for the surnames you specify. And don't worry, you won't be charged to access RootsWeb. No one will put your data on CD without your permission. Our Privacy Policy (http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/pledge.html) and our Acceptable User Policy (http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html) are unchanged. Other promises made over the years will continue to be honored. You'll still deal with the same RootsWeb volunteers and employees. In fact, most users won't notice any changes, except exciting new tools, more content, and better genealogical resources. If you would like more information, please check out our official press release at http://www.ancestry.com/home/celebrate/rootsrelease.htm >>>

I want to thank all of you for your thoughts of concern. My husband did get good news. The stint was not completely closed so next Wed. they will go in and put in another stint to help support this one to remain open. You all have no idea how much I appreciate my county and surname mailing lists. I never have any problems from you and give me great pleasure reading your emails. I will try to get as much done on updating counties before next Wed. Thank you!! Kathy, listowner

this week. My husband will be going in the hospital Tues. to see if another stent can be used or if they will have to do a bypass. So I need you to be on your best behavior for me. Please keep personal comments private and not on the list. Please keep to genealogy so there is no flaming. You have been great lists so keep up the good work. If you have not subscribed to the mailing list...please do so as your emails will only bounce to me rather than going to the list. To subscribe send your email to ALMORGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you want the digest mode replace the L with a D - if you are on my other mailing list change ALMORGAN to the proper name of the list such as ARHOWARD - ARSEVIER - AR NEWTON - AFHA - STOKES - TOLLETT) And type in your subject line: subscribe I you want to unsubscribe type: unsubscribe To send your queries to the list mail them to ALMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com (this address is used whether you are on the mail mode or the digest mode - again chg the proper name if you are not on the Morgan Co AL mailing list) As far as the websites....as soon as all this is over I will be updating the counties. I have several large files that have been submitted so it will take me a bit on some of the counties. I do appreciate those that have given this information. I appreciate your understanding, Kathy

Charlotte, I found the marriage of Peter McDowell to Elizabeth Coil on Sept. 2, 1819, but the record indicated the marriage was in Madison county, AL Nothing about the JP or who was security. :( Adrian

Jeremiah H. Cloud married Sarah/Sally in Morgan County in 1820 and is listed as Justice of the Peace of "Decatur." The context would suggest "Decatur County", but geography suggest that it might have been the community that became the City of Decatur. Anyone have ideas about that? Descendants of this Cloud and members of all other Cloud families who live in the Tessessee Valley have a rare opportunity this July 14-16 to attend the annual meeting of the Cloud Family Association without making a long trip. It's in Huntsville this year, the first of its 23 annual meeting to be held in Alabama. If you have any Cloud ancestry or any other reason for interest in Cloud history, see http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/2000/bu000605.htm If you live elsewhere and are interested in attending, please note that room reservations must be made directly with the Huntsville Hilton (not Hilton's 800 number) to get the special $65 room rate. Cec

Jeremiah H. Cloud married Sarah/Sally in Morgan County in 1820. Descendants of this Cloud and all other Cloud families have a rare opportunity this July to attend the annual meeting of the Cloud Family Association without making a long trip. It's in Huntsville this year, the first of its 23 annual meeting to be held in Alabama. If you have any Cloud ancestry or any other reason for interest in Cloud history, see http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/2000/bu000605.htm Cec

>From Morgan Co cemetery book, Grange Hall: Baker, Morris Harold 1934-1979 then, cemetery on south end: Lyle, James, Vet marker AL pvt, US Army WWI Jan 15, 1891-April 17,1966 Bowling, Eorge Jr. Vet AL Pvt Co 366 Inf. WWI Mar 15, 1890 May 30, 1964 Lyle, Mary Jeff Aug 13, 1946 dec 8, 1966 Annie Ross Madison Robert Brown Dan Lile Sr. Aug 1, 1889 - Mar 9, 1977 Willis Lile d. 1918 Alex Swope Shorlotte Swope Bennie Lyle aged 60 years May 9,.1983 Novella Young Nov. 24, 1891 Aug. 11, 1979 Exum Lile Mar 7, 1886 Dec. 5, 1989 Jones McDaniel Hodges Abbot, Dave Lyle, Circle No. 1908 d. Aug. 23, 1927 Annie D.Lile Reynolds Chamber 2600 Trinity AL Mar 25, 1878, Arp. 12, 1928 Grange Hall is a very well kept cemetery. Phyllis -----Original Message----- From: ALMORGAN-D-request@rootsweb.com <ALMORGAN-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: ALMORGAN-D@rootsweb.com <ALMORGAN-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 16, 2000 8:04 PM Subject: ALMORGAN-D Digest V00 #55

Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia Volume I Index 1745-1799 (Much information) http://www.rootsweb.com/~chalkley/volume_1/vindx.htm

I'm new at this. I'm researching a John Young who was born in Virginis in 1864; he married a Mary Adam maybe in Limestone county, Alabama. They had seven children; only five that I know of. The 1920 census have their son's name spelled Melville, but his death certificate has his name spelled Mell Young. He had two children, name John and melville Young. He was also married to a Novella lile. Lillie Young Lyle (Husband- Exum Lile), Velma Young Baker (Husband- Willie Baker), Ida Young Baker and Grealla Young. I've heard that they are buried in Trinity, Alabama on Trinity mountain (Grange Hall). If anyone comes across these names please let me know. Thanks!!

Edna, Thanks. I have my Ransoms pretty far back (possibly). I know that Hugh Ransom was the son of James M. Ransom, who married Amy Osborne (Wilks) in 1840 in Morgan Co, AL. He was born in 1817, TN. We think he was the son of Joseph Ransom, who was in the 1820 census of Franklin Co, TN; and we think he was the son of Reuben Ransom b.1753, VA and Sally Leeman b.abt 1758. This connection of James M. Ransom to Joseph is not proven. Dan

The local library has a set of marriage books for Alabama. I will look up your request and any others I receive. I cannot remember, though, if the JP and security are given. But I will look. Why was there "security"? Can someone explain what purpose that served? Thanks! So, please send your requests. Just give me a week or two! Adrian Balch At 10:41 PM 06/13/2000 EDT, TLC4304113@aol.com wrote: >f someone has a book of marriages for Morgan AL.. I need to find out who was >J.P. and who was security for the marriage of Peter McDowell to Elizabeth >Coil on Sept 2, 1819. > >Thank you > >Charlotte > > >==== ALMORGAN Mailing List ==== >Remeber we were all new to genealogy and the internet at one time...so give encouragement and knowledge to the new ones...and in return we will get new ideas and knowledge from them. > > >

f someone has a book of marriages for Morgan AL.. I need to find out who was J.P. and who was security for the marriage of Peter McDowell to Elizabeth Coil on Sept 2, 1819. Thank you Charlotte

So you really want to know what's happening to that wonderful 2000 Census we just had: http://www.nara.gov/nara/pressrelease/nr00-82.html

Thanks for your information on the Bell family. I have one more to sorta add to your list. Mary C. Bell b.1 Sep 1855, AL; m. 23 Dec 1875, MADISON Co, AL to Hugh Ransom. He was born 22 Sep 1849, Morgan Co, AL. He had was married previously in Morgan Co, AL to Martha Emaline Thomas. I do not know the name of her parents. Hugh Ransom and Mary moved to Brazos Co, TX between 1880 and 1885. She died there in 1911 and both are buried at the Boonesville Cem, Bryan, Brazos Co, TX. Dan Franklin White Sands Missile Range, NM

Looking for descendants of my ggg grandfather Frederick Sybert born abt 1797 in GA & died 1848 in Morgan Co., AL. My gg grandfater Robert Sybert born abt 1830 married Mary Ann Priddy in 1850 in Morgan Co., AL. Mary Ann Priddys mother was Margaret Walden daugher of Featherstone Walden. Looking for descendants of: SYBERT-PRIDDY-WALDEN Thanks, James Sybert <sybert@venus.seark.net>

Hi List, Below I have put the Bell families that was in Morgan County, AL 1830- 1870.Would love to hear from anyone who has any information of these Bells in their line. I believe my James B Bell b. 1808, on the 1850 census of Winston County, AL has him born in NC, on the 1860 census has him born in TN. I believe him to be the son of John Bell living next door to Robert Lowrimore, since he married Robert's daughter Elizabeth on Feb. 14, 1832. James and Elizabeth are living next door to the same John Bell in 1840. John Bell on page 11 was born 1760-1770 and John Bell on page 54 was born 1780-1790 could this be father and son? Anyone know of John Bell and John Bell,Jr in this age range? The E. Bell b. 1760-1770 I believe to be Elisha Bell, because he was one of the first to get land grants in Morgan and Madison County, AL. Is Elisha Bell a brother to John Bell, if so where did they come from? Sure would like to hear from anyone on these Bells. Thanks Glenda Burgess Morgan County, AL 1830 Census Page # 11 Bell, John 001201001 01001001001 Page # 21 Bell, E. 011000001 111001 (This may be Elisha Bell) Page # 54 Bell, John 0100101 211101 (lived next door to Robert Lowrimore) Page # 7 Ball, Tandy J. 010011 100001 (this may be Bell) 1840 Morgan County, Al Census Page # 1 Bell, John (page torn) 000100001 000 Bell, James (page torn) 120001 000 ( was John Bell's next door neighbor) This is my James B Bell family. Page # 28 Bell, Elizabeth 0001 0012001 Page # 48 Bell, Tandy S. 00010011 011 1850 Morgan County, AL Census PAGE 265b Dec 17 Somerville Division 9 374/374 Bell, Elisha 30 m farmer 2500 SC " Nancy C. 29 f AL PAGE 266a Dec 18 Somerville Division 9 " Mary E. 10 f AL " Rhoda J. 8 f AL " Davis S. 5 m AL " Malinda J. 3 f AL " John R. 1 m AL Morgan County, AL 1870 Census Falkville Beat, Morgan Co, AL, 5 July 1870. Post Office: Falkville. David Day 45-45 BELL, Mary 36 F W K. house GA Mary 16 F W At home NC Lodisa 13 F W At home NC Joseph 10 M W At home TN Sarah 7 F W " " TN Valhermosa Beat, Morgan Co, AL, 30 July 1870, Post Office: Valhermosa. David Day 101-101 BELL, David 25 M W Farmer 1200 500 AL 19 Subdivision No. 37, Beat No. 1, Town of Decatur, 2 June 1870, Post Office: Decatur. R. P. Baker, Ass't Marshal. Page 118b. 52-51 BELL, Franklin 39 M W Watchmaker 1300 200 KY 19 Elizabeth 33 F W K. house NC Emma F. 10 F W AL Franklin 7 M W AL Elizabeth 5 F W AL Millie A. 2 F W AL Morgan County Marriages Bell, Bettie Spouse : Aday, Albert Marriage date : Feb 5, 1880 Bell, Dicy C. Spouse : Hall, William F. Marriage date : Feb 14, 1878 Bell, Emma Frances Spouse : White, John Marriage date : Jan 27, 1879 Bell, Franklin Spouse : Austin, Elizabeth Marriage date : Mar 29, 1854 Bell, Ida Spouse : Whisenant, Andrew Marriage date : Jul 2, 1893 Bell, Joseph M. Spouse : Johnson, Neomia T. Marriage date : Mar 10, 1880 Bell, Joseph W Spouse : Hill, Martha J Marriage date : Apr 9, 1850 Bell, Marion Spouse : Chatman, Luiza Marriage date : Jan 2, 1874 Bell, Marion Spouse : Chatman, Luiza Marriage date : Jan 2, 1874 Bell, Mary Ann Spouse : Hall, Thomas Marriage date : Sep 10, 1870 Bell, Mary E. Spouse : Travis, Thomas C. Marriage date : Dec 24, 1863 Bell, Mary M. Spouse : Suit, William R. Marriage date : Jun 12, 1882 Bell, Nancy P. Spouse : Davis, Riley S. Marriage date : Jan 9, 1854 Bell, Sarah E. Spouse : Brown, Michael C. Marriage date : Mar 2, 1873 Marshall County, AL next to Morgan County, Al Marriages Bell, George W. Spouse : Walker, Mary E. Marriage date : Jan 28, 1840 Bell, Rilla Spouse : Shumate, Toliver Marriage date : Dec 19, 1844 Bell, William Henry Spouse : Boge, Martha Jane Marriage date : Sep 9, 1844

Hello All, I am sending the following excerpt from a posting to the Bertie List as I thought it may be of interest to others researching within this time period in the Colonies. Kathy/MI - ---------------------------------- > <<Page 5: BELL, Mary, 12 Sep 1660; 13 Feb 1660 (which is impossible). To > Elizabeth the wife of Robert MAPHE; to my goddaughter Mary MAPHE > daughter of the aforesaid; my son Richard BELL; all estate to be divided > among my children.>> > ------------ > No, not impossible! It seems very odd to us at this time, but > before 1752 the beginning of a new year was based on the > seasons and started on the 25th of March, and Jan and Feb. were > the last two months of the year. Therefore, Feb. of 1660 came > after Sept. of 1660, as shown above. Seems very strange, does > it not? You will often see dates given in printed material such as > 10 Jan 1709/10. This means that the date as originally recorded > was 10 Jan 1709, but now that we start a new year on 1 Jan, > this would presently be considered to have been 10 Jan 1710. >

Are you talking about the Mormons as in Latter Day Saints? If so, I would question that web site as I have always understood that the Mormons were founded in the US by Joseph Smith. If I am wrong, please ignore this confused, muddled soul! :) Adrian At 10:35 AM 06/10/2000 -0500, Robert L. Tapscott wrote: >Hey, > >Some time ago corresponded with a descendant of a William Tapscott who >was a part-owner of the sailing ship "William Tapscott". She seemed a >bit defensive as her feeling was that he and his brother had used very >sharp business practices, and may have cheated people. Anyway, was just >knocking around on the net - using "Google" as a search engine, and >plugged in the word "Tapscott". Got umteen million hits and started >looking at them by picking every 10th page of hits to read. [Good way to >spend time on the net when you can't sleep - just plug in a word and see >what you get] Saw a reference to the ship William Tapscott and began to >read it in detail. Site is: >http://www.xmission.com/~nelsonb/journey.htm > >and it's a story about some of the Mormans from Scandanavia and Europe >coming to America on the William Tapscott, and then their trip on to >Salt Lake City. Pretty good reading, and not too long (the footnotes are >very interesting). From some of the favorable comments there does not >appear to be any reason why she should feel ashamed of the way they were >treated on board that ship. > >It's also about the same time frame as that little journal of the >soldier, named Rielly, I sent Jim; and R. went to SLC from Los Angeles >as escort to the Army Paymaster to pay the soldiers who were there re >the Mormans. Either as guards to keep the Mormans safe or as guards to >protect others from them - I'm not clear on which. > >Somewhat ambivalent re the Mormans - can't seem to decide exactly how I >feel about them. Much is admirable, and some seems sort of underhanded. >Don't know enough to really have a well-informed opinion - sort of like >the way I vote in elections, just muddle along. > >For whatever all this is worth. Take care. > >Robert > > >

As an American the constitution gives me the freedom of speech, as a human being I should consider others feelings before speaking, as a listowner I cannot take sides...but I do need to ask that we keep our "confrontations" between individuals. I am not going to be with the list continually the next few days so keep me proud of the list that I brag on all the time. My husband has started having heart problems again so I will be in and out the next couple of days..so if you do need something I will check my email as time allows me. I am scheduled to take Genealogy Shoppe to St Louis this coming weekend but the beginning of the week will tell if I can make the trip. If you plan to be there..hopefully I will get to put faces to emails. Thank you! Kathy

I, for one. don`t appreciate the remarks about MORMONS on this genealogy List. Email me personally and I`ll tell you what I really think of your ignorant comments. Sue Drake in Decatur