Would someone who has the 1850 Morgan Co Census, please look on page 261 and give me the information for: David F. Black John Black Thank you, Betty Huggins

Does anyone else have family that moved from Pendleton District, SC, to AL around 1818? I was browsing through a few books about Pendleton District, last weekend, and noticed so many family names that were in Morgan county, AL, with my CROWs. Adrian Sinclair Balch

Barbara I have several ask me where to find the deeds on the USGS site..I too have not found them. Maybe you could help us all out on locating them. Thanks & Good luck in your search! Kathy

You can get land records from the LDS or through interlibrary loan. Right now I am looking at Alabama deeds that I got on microfilm from the LDS and Texas deeds that I got on microfilm under interlibrary loan. USGS deeds are available on line. I got two Alabama deeds by downloading them from the USGS. The LDS films cost $3.25 a roll for a two week loan. The Texas deeds and the USGS deeds are free. Alabama will let you get their deeds on loan also but they want $5.00 instead of $3.25. You might even find an affidavit of heirship. If a person who owns land dies without a will, the heirs must either take out administration of the estate or file an affidavit of heirship in the deed records. I found just such an affidavit filed in 1733 in Essex County, MA. Good luck! Barbara Finney

At 02:00 PM 8/13/2000 -0700, you wrote: >I could go on and on abt why you should use land deeds in your search but I >hope this just intrigues you enough to enhance your research by using the >land deeds. Kathy, I agree with you about using land records. What I want to know is how do you find the records you need if you aren't able to go to all the States or Counties that you need to search? Faye

Barbara I just happen to remember I failed to mention LDS (Later Day Saints) and your email came thru before I got mine sent..thanks for the valuable additional information..I did not realize USGS ( http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis ) had deeds on their site..but I don't get to "surf" a lot...I will go ck it out..or maybe you can tell us a little more about it. Kathy **** You can get land records from the LDS or through interlibrary loan. Right now I am looking at Alabama deeds that I got on microfilm from the LDS and Texas deeds that I got on microfilm under interlibrary loan. USGS deeds are available on line. I got two Alabama deeds by downloading them from the USGS. The LDS films cost $3.25 a roll for a two week loan. The Texas deeds and the USGS deeds are free. Alabama will let you get their deeds on loan also but they want $5.00 instead of $3.25. You might even find an affidavit of heirship. If a person who owns land dies without a will, the heirs must either take out administration of the estate or file an affidavit of heirship in the deed records. I found just such an affidavit filed in 1733 in Essex County, MA. Good luck! Barbara Finney

There have been several questions concerning land deeds. Many times a book has been published for land deeds. But the book does not always give you all the info on the deed but it would give you an idea as to what and how much property your ancestor owned or sold and the dates. You would need to decide if there were several entries what might give you the best clues..such as the last entry. Some mentioned metes and bounds and trees etc in the old colonial deeds. Check out Deed Mapper http://www.ultranet.com/~deeds/index.shtml It is a little expensive BUT for what all it does it is like AniMap well worth the money. Your Court Clerk or Register of Deeds in the county courthouse usually has the land deeds. BLM (Bureau of Land Management) http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ has several states land records online. Also the Library of Virginia Electronic Card Indexes also has the original land documents online also http://198.17.62.51/collections/index.html And of course there is Federal Land Records for AR which give you the legals...BLM allows you to view and print the orginal document. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ar/fedland.htm Of course most of these are the original land patents or grants so your anscetors may very well have other land deeds on file in the county you are searching. It would be nice if all states and deeds were online. Kathy

Last year when my new form for My Roots And Branches mini binder was land deeds, I began to realize how many researchers did not utilize land deeds. After getting to set in on Leslie Smith Collier's lecture yesterday, which was in part on land deeds, and hearing and seeing the responses, AGAIN I see how many are not using land deeds. Land deeds are not just finding the location of your ancestors land. And maybe many of you do not know how to locate the land. When you read (Example)Township 7 South; Range 27 West Section 30 .... this is telling you where in the county the land was located..so get you a county map (which by writing the chamber of commerce of the county you can get a county map either free or minimal cost) find the Twp and Range and the county map will also show you the sections (there are 36 sections in a township and range). Now from this point you will read in your land description SW 1/4 SE 1/4 ...this is read backward to get the location in the section so you will begin with SE 1/4. If you will go to http://www.genealogyshoppe.com/ld.html I give an example of this legal on my land deed chart in the #2 square (which is the back of my form). NOW for the main reason of this email...we all agree "most" of us do not have access to the 1890 census. And 1840 prior the census only tells us the head of the household. How many of us did our ancestors not leave a will...telling us who was all in their family or just put "and the remainder goes to my children"? I personally had quite a few and most all of my family were farmers. But by going thru land deeds..the property had to be sold or given to or by someone. You have no idea how many times I have found the listings of the wife..who I might have not known her name..the children..and their spouses name or their married names when the land was being disbursed. And if children had moved off..it many times tells where they located. Also watch who the witnesses are on a deed. Many times it is family members...or possibly even if not a family member..a very close friend who the family traveled with to the area in question. And it might be that family member or friend that leads you to where your ancestors came from to get to the county or give you more information abt your families life in general. Usually when the family sold off their shares of the land to move on they sold it to other family members. But follow the land deed for years to come...I have found when the family member that ended up with the property either died (and again being disbursed) or was getting ready to move on..there have been discrepancies in the deed and they had to have the prior heirs send the corrections on their behalf to the court and it usually told where these "heirs" were living at the time. So when you lose a family this may be the way you find their new location. I am a sucker for plat books...if you are lucky to get a county plat of your family...study it..the neighbors are very important to your search. They could be family that traveled with yours to the area or a family that married into yours. Again watch and find where the other families migrated from that lived near your family..people traveled together and this is a possible lead for you. A land deed can tell you a time frame to when your family left an area and reached their destination. Families needed a place to live and farmers needed a place to grow next years crops. So does it not stand to reason with you this was the last thing they did on leaving an area and the first upon arriving to an area? I could go on and on abt why you should use land deeds in your search but I hope this just intrigues you enough to enhance your research by using the land deeds. Good luck in your search! Kathy

I would like to know a little abt Thomas Ryan of Morgan Co., Al. He filed for the keeping of John Stokes (Jr.) 5 children. One document dated Apr 25, 1833 and the other Oct 3, 1835 Can anyone tell me where Thomas Ryan was from? Was he related to the Stokes family or possibly the Duty family? Where in Morgan Co did Thomas reside? Thank you & good luck in your search! Kathy

Morgan Co. website ( www.genealogyshoppe.com/almorgan/index.htm ) has been updated. Good luck in your search! Kathy

Hello listers, Does anyone happen to know if voters registration records for Morgan Co. in the early 1800's are still in existence? Also, any other info as to how voters registration worked in the early years would be most helpful. Thanks so much, harris@livingonline.com When this you see, remember me

What a wonderfully helpful group this is. I received 6 replies to my query on Morgan Co churches. Thank you Robert, Cindy, Alan, Maxine, Kim, Martha, and anyone else I may have missed. Judy in La Quinta CA

Can anyone tell me which area of 1840 Morgan Co was the 6th Regiment area? Did any or all of the 6th Regiment area later become part of Marshall Co? Thanks, Eldon

Mt Zion Church is on Mt Zion road south east of Hartselle. Rock Creek is on hwy 67 going toward Arab,Al. probably would be in Ryan Community. Bethel Baptist is on Bethel Road in the city limits of Hartselle. On Bethel Rd. to the east Shady Grove is in Neel community between Hartselle and Moulton. Martha in Alabama

I know that Bethel Baptist Church is at Hartselle on Bethel Road. That is not really close to Hulaco. ALMORGAN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Subject: > > ALMORGAN-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 90 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [ALMORGAN] Morgan County Churches ["Judy Underwood" <judyva@mindsprin] > #2 [ALMORGAN] Newspaper Abstracts [HudsonK@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from ALMORGAN-D, send a message to > > ALMORGAN-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [ALMORGAN] Morgan County Churches > Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:54:23 +0100 > From: "Judy Underwood" <judyva@mindspring.com> > To: ALMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello - > Does anyone know if any of the following churches is near Hulaco in > southeastern Morgan Co? > Lebanon Baptist Church, Mt. Zion Baptist Church, Rock Creek Baptist Church, > Bethel Baptist Church, Shady Grove Baptist Church, and Mt. View Baptist > Church. I am researching the Mooneys and Clemons who lived in Morgan, > Cullman, Blount, and Marshall counties. Thanks for your help. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [ALMORGAN] Newspaper Abstracts > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 21:22:07 EDT > From: HudsonK@aol.com > To: ALMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com > > I was asked to forward this on to you..good luck in your search! Kathy > > Since its inception in October 1999 Newspaper Abstracts has grown to over > 2,000 pages and 100 MB of newspaper articles! > > Newspaper Abstracts contains news articles from US newspapers published > before 1923. Canadian newspaper articles published 1900 or earlier will be > open soon. Articles such as birth, marriage and death notices along with > general news, etc can be found on the site. This site is an ongoing project > and is comprised of articles and links submitted on a daily basis from > volunteers. > > Please stop by for a visit at Newspaper Abstracts where we are finding our > ancestors in the news! > > http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/ > > Happy hunting, > Barbara Freeman > http://NewspaperAbstracts.com

I was asked to forward this on to you..good luck in your search! Kathy Since its inception in October 1999 Newspaper Abstracts has grown to over 2,000 pages and 100 MB of newspaper articles! Newspaper Abstracts contains news articles from US newspapers published before 1923. Canadian newspaper articles published 1900 or earlier will be open soon. Articles such as birth, marriage and death notices along with general news, etc can be found on the site. This site is an ongoing project and is comprised of articles and links submitted on a daily basis from volunteers. Please stop by for a visit at Newspaper Abstracts where we are finding our ancestors in the news! http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/ Happy hunting, Barbara Freeman http://NewspaperAbstracts.com

Hello - Does anyone know if any of the following churches is near Hulaco in southeastern Morgan Co? Lebanon Baptist Church, Mt. Zion Baptist Church, Rock Creek Baptist Church, Bethel Baptist Church, Shady Grove Baptist Church, and Mt. View Baptist Church. I am researching the Mooneys and Clemons who lived in Morgan, Cullman, Blount, and Marshall counties. Thanks for your help.

Does anyone know whether or not the Morgan Co/ Marshall Co line was ever changed? Maybe around 1840 or 1841? Was part of Morgan Co ever made a part of Marshall Co? Genealogy tagline: Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living Thanks, Eldon

Just wished to say thanks so much for all the wonderful offers of help! You guys over there in Morgan Co. are the GREATEST! Tricia Roberts Hall Greenville/Spartanburg, SC __________________________________ He best understands who has felt the pain. -- The Compassionate Friends Nicole Noella 12/30/1980 - 4/17/1999

Hello to All, If some kind person has access to the 1900 Morgan Co. census, I would be most grateful for a look-up. However, it is not a simple look-up (story of my life>g< ). I am trying to find my grandfather, Millard B. RYLAND b 1890-1895 in the 1900 census to determine his age. He lived in the Falkville/Lacon section of Morgan Co. He had left Morgan Co by 1910 so the 1900 census is my only hope. What complicates the look-up is that I am unsure of whose household he is in : ( He would have been 5-10 years of age in 1900. His mother, Bethina Callie RYLAND died in 1900...sometime after July 3rd when she gave birth to a second child, Tera RYLAND. I believe the 1900 census was taken in June of 1900. During her illness ...and pregnancy, family tradition has it that she and Millard lived with another family member....so this is where it gets complicated. I have some "best guess" households to look in. These are.... the household of; A. J."Bud" BRADFORD, wife Della Geo COLLUM, wife Sarah Ida Wm "Billy CAUDLE (CAUDEL), wife Mattie Anson WILLIAMS, wife Mary Ellen.....may have lived in Cullman Co. or Morgan Co. I sure would appreciate any help/ideas you could give...even how-to suggestions are most welcome!! Best~ Kathy/MI harris@livingonline.com When this you see, remember me