My PAYNE family has certainly been a "pain" to research, and I've relied almost entirely on documents and headstones, with nobody in my family remembering this family at all. So, be warned that I may have erred in assuming some relationships, although I have tried to be thorough. The earliest ancestor I can identify is John D. PAYNE, who was born in May 1825, perhaps in Alabama, but more probably in South Carolina. In the 1885 Florida State Census of Escambia County, Florida, he says his father was born in South Carolina and his mother was born in Florida. >From the documents I've collected, he was in Monroe County, Alabama, in 1840, when he married Polly V. STEWART. After that, the family seems to have crossed and re-crossed the Baldwin County, Alabama and Escambia County, Florida line. The census records show: 1850 Baldwin County, Alabama 1860 Baldwin County, Alabama 1870 Escambia County, Florida 1880 Baldwin County, Alabama 1885 Escambia County, Florida 1900 Baldwin County, Alabama John D. PAYNE had a bunch of kids by Polly STEWART, and after she died he remarried (to Olive R. HARRIS) and had several more. I'm pasting my PAYNE line below and intend to send it to the list. Please let me know if you think we connect. Lance B. Young YOUNGPS@prodigy.net 1 John Daniel PAYNE, Sr. b. May 1825 SC d. bet. 1910-1920 + [1] 8 Oct 1840 Monroe Cty AL Polly Vaie STEWART b. abt 1820 AL d. 28 May 1887 Baldwin Cty, AL ...2 William PAYNE b. 1843 Alabama d. aft 1920 + [1] abt 1865 Matilda UNKNOWN b. abt 1847 Baldwin Cty, AL d. 21 Jan 1918 Baldwin Cty, AL ....3 Greenberry PAYNE b. abt 1870 Florida d. ....3 Lidy M. FORK b. abt 1890 Florida d. + [2] 23 Dec 1918 Baldwin Cty AL Gussie JONES b. abt 1871 Alabama d. aft 1920 ...2 Caroline PAYNE b. abt 1845 Alabama d. ...2 Elizabeth PAYNE b. 1847 Alabama d. + 4 Jan 1871 Escambia Cty FL S.C. WILLIAMS b. d. ...2 Aurelia PAYNE b. abt Sept 1850 Alabama d. ...2 Manerva PAYNE b. abt 1852 Alabama d. + 23 Aug 1868 Escambia Cty FL John D. TAYLOR b. d. ...2 Sophronia PAYNE b. abt 1854 Alabama d. bet 1888-1893 + 30 Apr 1874 Escambia Cty FL William W. HARE b. abt 1842 Georgia d. aft 1888 ....3 Purlie E. HARE b. abt 1875 Florida d. + 17 June 1894 Baldwin Cty AL Samuel WILLIAMS b. abt 1873 Florida d. .....4 Riley WILLIAMS b. abt 1895 Alabama d. .....4 James WILLIAMS b. abt 1897 Alabama d. .....4 Nora J. WILLIAMS b. abt 1898 Alabama d. .....4 Clarissa WILLIAMS b. abt 1900 Alabama d. .....4 Eva O. WILLIAMS b. abt 1905 Alabama d. .....4 Callie WILLIAMS b. abt 1906 Alabama d. .....4 Tenney WILLIAMS b. abt 1908 Alabama d. .....4 Unknown WILLIAMS b. bef 1910 d. bef. 1910 ....3 Aubrey HARE b. abt 1877 Alabama d. + UNKNOWN b. abt 1877 Alabama d. .....4 Unknown HARE b. 20 Feb 1918 Baldwin County AL d. ....3 William A. HARE b. 20 May 1877 Florida d. 24 Feb 1939 + 1896-1897 Ella M. UNKNOWN b. 10 July 1875 Alabama d. 21 November 1942 Baldwin Cty AL .....4 Kennie HARE b. abt 1898 Alabama d. .....4 Leona HARE b. Oct 1898 Alabama d. .....4 Edward HARE b. Oct 1899 Alabama d. .....4 Millie HARE b. abt 1903 Alabama d. .....4 Viola HARE b. abt 1906 Alabama d. + 24 Sept. 1923 Baldwin Cty AL John Henry SMITH b. d. .....4 Walter HARE b. abt 1906 Alabama d. .....4 Macie T. HARE b. abt 1908 Alabama d. ....3 Eugenia HARE b. abt Feb 1880 Alabama d. aft 1920 + 3 Feb 1898 Baldwin Cty AL William WALKER b. abt 1867 Alabama d. .....4 Leavy L. WALKER b. abt 1901 Alabama d. .....4 Leaby W. WALKER b. abt 1904 Alabama d. .....4 Anna J. WALKER b. abt 1906 Alabama d. .....4 Leonard V. WALKER b. abt 1908 Alabama d. .....4 Frank J. WALKER b. abt 1910 Alabama d. .....4 Riley E. WALKER b. abt 1912 Alabama d. .....4 Willis M. WALKER b. abt 1914 Alabama d. .....4 May O. WALKER b. abt 1916 Alabama d. ....3 Leonard A. HARE b. 26 Feb 1882 Alabama d. 8 May 1968 Baldwin Cty AL + July 1911 Baldwin Cty AL Rosie D. PONER b. 13 Dec 1898 Alabama d. 8 May 1943 Baldwin Cty AL .....4 Inez HARE b. abt 1916 Alabama d. .....4 Bessie HARE b. 28 Feb 1918 Baldwin Cty AL d. .....4 Lottie HARE b. 26 July 1919 Baldwin Cty AL d. ....3 Mary Louise HARE b. 6 Oct 1888 Alabama d. 14 Jan 1968 Escambia Cty AL + 1905 Hillary Hubbard LOVETT b. 7 Aug 1880 Baldwin Cty AL d. 11 May 1942 Baldwin Cty AL .....4 Lennie Irene LOVETT b. 15 Aug 1906 Baldwin Cty AL d. 6 Aug 1971 Baldwin Cty AL + [1] 37 July 1934 Baldwin Cty AL Whit Worth YOUNG b. abt 30 Nov 1898 Butler Cty AL d. 1 July 1966 Baldwin Cty AL + [2] Aft 1936 Solomon L. DAVIS b. July 1906 d. 1985 Baldwin Cty AL .....4 Infant LOVETT b. 26 Aug 1908 Baldwin Cty AL d. bef 1910 .....4 Bertha Virginia LOVETT b. 25 Jan 1910 Baldwin Cty AL d. 4 Dec 1982 Baldwin Cty AL + 4 Feb 1929 Baldwin Cty AL Chalie Lee FOSTER b. 13 March 1909 d. 22 Jan 1985 Baldwin Cty AL .....4 Vada V. LOVETT b. 18 Jul 1911 d. 31 Dec 1964 Baldwin Cty AL + 27 Dec 1926 Baldwin Cty AL George GREEK b. abt 1900 Alabama d. .....4 Clara Mae LOVETT b. 25 Mar 1915 Baldwin Cty AL d. 6 apr 1930 Alabama + 25 Nov 1929 Baldwin Cty AL Emmanuel C. MASON b. d. .....4 Howard C. LOVETT b. 27 Feb 1919 Baldwin Cty AL d. 25 Aug 1978 Escambia Cty FL + Mamie UNKNOWN b. 14 April 1919 d. 7 Aug 1996 Baldwin Cty AL .....4 Eunice LOVETT b. 10 April 1923 Baldwin Cty AL d. + June 1941 Cary Penson BLACKWELL b. 6 Dec 1911 Baldwin Cty AL d. ....3 Unknown HARE b. 25 Mar 19893 Baldwin Cty AL d. ...2 Mary M. PAYNE b. 1855 Alabama d. + 25 Feb 1892 Baldwin Cty AL Willie KINMON b. d. bef 1910 ....3 Minnie Jane KINMON b. Sept 1883 Alabama d. + 28 Apr 1898 Henry TAYLOR b. Mar 1875 Alabama d. ...2 Josephine PAYNE b. 1858 Alabama d. ...2 Julia PAYNE b. 1860 Alabama d. ...2 Joseph G. PAYNE b. abt Jan 1860 Alabama d. ...2 Martha PAYNE b. 1862 Alabama d. + 8 Feb 1898 Baldwin Cty AL Frank RACINE b. Jan 1833 Louisiana d. ....3 Charlie RACINE b. Apr 1884 Florida d. + 21 Nov 1926 Baldwin Cty AL Leila UNKNOWN b. d. ....3 Walter F. RACINE b. Oct 1896 Florida d. ....3 Pearl RACINE b. Oct 1897 Alabama d. ....3 Nora RACINE b. 26 Oct 1903 Alabama d. ...2 Samuel PAYNE b. 1866 Florida d. After Polly V. STEWART PAYNE died, John D. PAYNE remarried: + [2] abt 1887 Olive R. HARRIS b. abt 1862 Florida d. bet 1930-1935 ...2 Kendrix PAYNE b. Jan 1888 Alabama d. ...2 John Daniel PAYNE, JR. b. 23 Feb 1889 Alabama d. 11 June 1971 Baldwin Cty AL + 28 Dec 1907 Baldwin Cty AL Maggie CARLILE b. bet 1889-1891 Alabama d. ....3 Unknown PAYNE b. 20 Nov 1919 Baldwin Cty AL d. ....3 Unknown PAYNE b. 20 Oct 1914 Baldwin Cty AL d. ...2 Joe PAYNE b. Feb 1891 Alabama d. + 22 Sept. 1910 Baldwin Cty AL Malisa RHODES b. d. ...2 Francis Lee PAYNE b. Aug 1893 Alabama d. ...2 Olive PAYNE b. Apr 1896 Alabama d. ...2 Benjamin F. PAYNE b. July 1900 Alabama d. + 4 Feb 1925 Baldwin Cty AL Cora Lee GRAHAM b. d. ....3 Unknown PAYNE b. d. + Herman L. CAIN b. 4 Oct 1917 d. 14 Nov 1989 Baldwin Cty AL