Need help on this line<G> James N Watson b. 1868 Al. ( son of Lewis Watson and Martha Johnson ) married IDELL ? they had daughter IDELL born ? This IDELL married WILL FREEMAN theri children were: Shirley, Rosemary,Idell any help would be appreciated, thanx pat

OK ..... I need help with this DEES.......I would like to find out where HE belongs to the DEES family.... WILLIAM DEES died 1898 married Clarissa H watson DOB 1832 died 1888. Both are buried in WATSON Cemetery 200 yrds off the Old Burnt Corn to Rapton Road, Monroe Co. Al. Thanks, Pat

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Dear List: For those of you who earlier expressed an interest in the Centennial Editions of the _Monroe Journal_, I am forwrding a letter I received from Glenda Price. I hadn't given up! Perhaps something will happen one of these days soon. Freda >From: "Glenda Price" <monjour@frontiernet.net> >To: <tnoble@mcn.org> >Subject: Re: Centennial Editions???? >Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:27:11 -0600 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Priority: 3 >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Hi, >The Centennial Edtions have not been reprinted as of yet. I still have the >list of names you sent. Probably what you sent a check for was the >pictorial edition, which hasn't gone to press yet either. Hopefully, that >will happen soon. If not, we'll probably have a riot on our hands, as it >has been in the making for so long. It turned into a bigger project than >anyone expected and it has only had one person working on it, me, >sporadically, as I have other duties. Thank you for being so patient, and >please keep requested the older centennials. > >Glenda > >PS: Jane no longer works here, but continues to write a weekly column. You >could email her at darby000@frontiernet.net > >---------- >> From: Ted and Freda Noble <tnoble@mail.mcn.org> >> To: monjour@frontiernet.net >> Subject: Centennial Editions???? >> Date: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 10:32 AM >> >> Dear Ms Martin, >> >> I enjoyed your column in this week's _Monroe Journal_. The 100-page >> edition must really be something to read! I check the Internet every >> week to see if the page has been updated. >> My interest is in the Centennial Editions that were printed some >> time ago. Last year I understood that the editions were being >> re-printed and could be purchased. I mailed off a check for the >> suggested amount immediately. Over a year has passed and my checkhas >> not been cashed nor have I received the re-prints. >> So many people who subscribe to the e-mail genealogy web pages >> have expressed an interest in buying the editions. Last fall, I sent >> some of their names with mine and a cover letter to the Editor of the >> paper asking that the editions be made available. I never had a reply >> to my letter. >> Your interest in the _MJ_ has inspired me to ask you if you can >> request the re-print of the Centennial Editions. (None of us knows >> whether there were two or three editions!) Many of us would like so >> much to have our own copies. >> Thank you for any help you can give us. >> >> Freda Roberson Noble >> >> tnoble@mcn.org >> > Freda and Ted Noble tnoble@mcn.org

I am trying to locate more information on this John Watson 1880 Census, Monroe County, Beat No. 10, E.D. 154, 17 June 1880, Page 26, Line 22: Watson, Lewis, age 52, occupation Wheelington and Blacksmith, Born AL, Ftr. Born AL, Mtr Born NC; Martha, age 42, Housekeeping, Born AL, Ftr. Born GA, Mtr. Born GA; John, 22 County Convict, POB, AL; Ella, 16, POB-AL; Lewis, 14, POB-AL; James, 12, POB-AL; Sallie, 10, POB-AL and Leanna, 5, POB-AL. this census shows him as a convict..........any one know how I could find out more about this? I know he marries MAMIE ( MARION ) GREGG 1883 in Monroe Co Al. ...anyone have anything on this? Family says that he died abt 1925-26 and he never divorced mamie Gregg.. at some point in time he was " suppose" to : John Watson was living with a 13 year old girl named Minnie Lou Skipper and lived on the Escambia River when he died. Supposedly, he never divorced Mamie Gregg supposidly he and minnie skipper had 3 more children together.... ( I know folks ...please I cannot help what the ancstors did, just trying to find them )I am sure if someone saw a census or anything one would think she a child also( and maybe she was his child? ) cannot find a death time /place/certificate or anything for him...I know my family most likely disowned him and they never spoke of him....as far as my dad knew he was dead ( this was his grandfather ) if anyone can shed any light on this I would be real happy :) pat

----- Original Message ----- From: <Bob58Ojai@aol.com> Subject: [AL-MOBILEBAY] : [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] CREEK FILE Testimony : Remeve@aol.com : writes: : : << ubj: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] CREEK FILE Testimony : Date: 2/27/00 8:19:47 AM Pacific Standard Time : From: Remeve@aol.com : To: CREEK-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com : : Hi List, : Following is testimony by Dixon Bailey Reed to Guion Miller on Feb 4, 1908. : : He mentions several unrelated families in response to questions posed to : him : by Miller. D. B. Reed is the daughter of Cynthia Robinson, who was the : daughter of Peggy Bailey. Does anyone know who the REED was that Cynthia : Robinson married? : : CREEK TEST, P. 1, 2 & 3. Capt. Dixon Bailey Reed: : "I am 64 years of age and live in Pensacola, FLa. I was born in Monroe : Co., : Ala. I claim to be of Indian blood through my mother who was a daughter of : Peggy Bailey. My mother was born in Monroe Co. and I came here with her. : My : mother claims to be an Indian only through her mother, and Peggy Bailey, : her : mother, I always understood to be a Creek Indian. Peggy Bailey lived with : the Creek and moved west with them to the Indian Territory and died there. : My mother was recognized as a Creek Indian. She received three payments : with : the Creek Indians. Mrs. J. C. (Mildred) Shuttlesworth is my daughter. I : know in a general way about the Treaty spoken of as the Red Jacket Treaty. : It was signed by Chilly McIntoch - he signed it against the will of the : people - the Creeks, and he was shot by them. My mother, Cynthia Robinson, : saw him at the time he was killed. This was about the time of the removal : of : the Creeks to the Indian Territory. My mother was born in 1822. I know : Mary : E. Haggarty (17901.) Her grandmother, I also knew. She was a Choctaw : Indian. She always claimed to be a Choctaw. Her name was Vaughn. She : married a Negro. Richard Touart married a Vaughn who was a sister of Mary : Haggarty. I do not know who Richard Touart's mother was, but I am : acquainted with the Hollinger family and am related to them on my mother's : side. The Hollingers were Creek Indians. I knew Jeff Hollinger - he lived : down on the Little River in Alabama with the Creeks. The Sizemores are : cousins of mine. : My grandmother's sister married a Sizemore. The Sizemores were Creeks. : The Sizemores that I am acquainted with lived in Little River, Ala. I knew : William Sizemore, who would be 80 or 90 years old now, if living. He had a : brother named Alex." (D. B. Reed goes on to tell the story of how Peggy : Bailey's heroism at the time of the massacre resulted in her being given : the : tract of land that was called "Bailey's Bluff.") : Signed: D. B. Reed, Feb. 4, 1908, Pensacola, FL : : Evelyn >> : : Evelyn: : I believe Richard Tourat is the son of Josephine Peppeo Hollinger and ?? : Tourat. Other Tourat siblings are Gill, Emma and Emile Bell. Josephine : Peppeo Hollinger's second family came from Elisha or Ignatius Clara; : daughter : was Clara Clara and all of the children lived in the Pensacola, Milton area. : : I have not found a tie as of yet for Josephine back to the Adam Hollinger : family but she was from Baldwin County, AL. I have Clara Clara-Shields', : (Married Isaac Shields in Milton, FL, 1871), Miller application and have : sent : for Richard Tourat's. I have been stuck at this generation for a while. : Anyone? Can you help me push back from Josephine Peppeo Hollinger, Elisha : Clara or Isaac Shields? Thanks and I hope this helps you. : Robert Shields, Bob58Ojai@aol.com >> : : : --: Hi List, : Following is testimony by Dixon Bailey Reed to Guion Miller on Feb 4, 1908. : He mentions several unrelated families in response to questions posed to him : by Miller. D. B. Reed is the daughter of Cynthia Robinson, who was the : daughter of Peggy Bailey. Does anyone know who the REED was that Cynthia : Robinson married? : : CREEK TEST, P. 1, 2 & 3. Capt. Dixon Bailey Reed: : "I am 64 years of age and live in Pensacola, FLa. I was born in Monroe Co., : Ala. I claim to be of Indian blood through my mother who was a daughter of : Peggy Bailey. My mother was born in Monroe Co. and I came here with her. : My : mother claims to be an Indian only through her mother, and Peggy Bailey, her : mother, I always understood to be a Creek Indian. Peggy Bailey lived with : the Creek and moved west with them to the Indian Territory and died there. : My mother was recognized as a Creek Indian. She received three payments : with : the Creek Indians. Mrs. J. C. (Mildred) Shuttlesworth is my daughter. I : know in a general way about the Treaty spoken of as the Red Jacket Treaty. : It was signed by Chilly McIntoch - he signed it against the will of the : people - the Creeks, and he was shot by them. My mother, Cynthia Robinson, : saw him at the time he was killed. This was about the time of the removal : of : the Creeks to the Indian Territory. My mother was born in 1822. I know : Mary : E. Haggarty (17901.) Her grandmother, I also knew. She was a Choctaw : Indian. She always claimed to be a Choctaw. Her name was Vaughn. She : married a Negro. Richard Touart married a Vaughn who was a sister of Mary : Haggarty. I do not know who Richard Touart's mother was, but I am : acquainted with the Hollinger family and am related to them on my mother's : side. The Hollingers were Creek Indians. I knew Jeff Hollinger - he lived : down on the Little River in Alabama with the Creeks. The Sizemores are : cousins of mine. : My grandmother's sister married a Sizemore. The Sizemores were Creeks. : The Sizemores that I am acquainted with lived in Little River, Ala. I knew : William Sizemore, who would be 80 or 90 years old now, if living. He had a : brother named Alex." (D. B. Reed goes on to tell the story of how Peggy : Bailey's heroism at the time of the massacre resulted in her being given the : tract of land that was called "Bailey's Bluff.") : Signed: D. B. Reed, Feb. 4, 1908, Pensacola, FL : : Evelyn >> : : Evelyn: : I believe Richard Tourat is the son of Josephine Peppeo Hollinger and ?? : Tourat. Other Tourat siblings are Gill, Emma and Emile Bell. Josephine : Peppeo Hollinger's second family came from Elisha or Ignatius Clara; daughter : was Clara Clara and all of the children lived in the Pensacola, Milton area. : I have not found a tie as of yet for Josephine back to the Adam Hollinger : family but she was from Baldwin County, AL. I have Clara Clara-Shields', : (Married Isaac Shields in Milton, FL, 1871), Miller application and have sent : for Richard Tourat's. I have been stuck at this generation for a while. : Anyone? Can you help me push back from Josephine Peppeo Hollinger, Elisha : Clara or Isaac Shields? Thanks and I hope this helps you. : Robert Shields, Bob58Ojai@aol.com : : : :

Looking for rpburns who posted on GenWeb concerning....Email address doesn't work. Sarah Fore who married John Simmons in Monroe Co. is a relative of mine. John was sheriff of Monroe Co. I have information of Sarah and her family. Please contact me privately if you wish to exchange information. Cynthia Fore Miller hedges01@sprynet.com

also checked vital records index cd's from Family History Resource files and could not find it pat

That marriage did not show up on FTM CD# 3 pat

Does anyone out there have the FTM CD #3. I need a look-up for marriage of a Nathaniel Murphy to a Hannah Whittington . The dates would have been around 1819-1820 I believe. Thanks........

----- Original Message ----- From: <Mmidg07@aol.com> To: <cmccoy@frontiernet.net> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 6:10 PM Subject: Deeds > How far back are the deeds for Monroe County available? I would like to find > out if there is a deed showing when my great grandfather bought land referred > to as the Baldwin place which was someone over near Vredenburg. It would be > sometime between 1870 and 1900. My grandfather was E. S. Farish Jr. #2. I > would greatly appreciate any help you could give me. > Marion Midgley >

Thomas Owen was the son of Dr. William Marmaduke Owen and Nancy Lucretia McAdory and grandson of Judge Thomas and Dolly Payne Owen and Major Thomas and Emily McAdory. Debbie Pendleton Assistant Director for Public Services Alabama Department of Archives and History PO Box 300100 Montgomery, AL 36130-0100 dpendlet@archives.state.al.us http://www.archives.state.al.us Thanks to all that offered assistance.

>Freda, > Thanks for offering to search for CRAWFORD surname in above edition. >Take it this is the first one, which means if this info was lost before new >one was printed makes it even more valueable. > Couldn't ask you to search if there's no index. Too time consuming but >appreciate the offer. > WinkieFL@aol.com > > >==== ALMONROE Mailing List ==== >**** The Monroe County Mailing list is now archived >at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ALMONROE-L Dear Winkie, I have tried for over a year to learn how many editions of the centennial there are. Mine is the 1966 edition which I believe was the first. Letters to the publisher of the MJ have brought no replies and no responses to a number of requests for the re-printing of all the books. Everyone keeps trying. Hopefully some day the publisher will realize how valuable the books are to family histories. If all goes well...tomorrow is suppose to be a rainy day...I will look for your Crawfords. I also know there are some Crawford names in a publication of the Monroeville Historical Library (not sure of the name of the library). Will dig out the magazine and see what's there, too. Just give me a little more time. My problem is that I can't just sit down and go through the book looking for ONE name; I always get sidetracked and end up finding new goodies. Will get back to you soon. Freda Freda and Ted Noble tnoble@mcn.org

Thomas M. Owen was the great proponent in the Ala. Archives for collecting CW and other history before the participants died. In another reading, it cited that his father was in the 36th Ala. There were several Owen(s) from Monroe Co. in Company G of the 36th. Does anyone have information about the identity of Thomas M. Owen's father? Your Obedient Servant, D. A. Bass-Frazier 36th Regiment of Alabama Volunteers & Monroe Co. & other Ala. Genealogy: Visit: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oldfedrd/

Wouldn't you know, I was reading through old e-mails and came across a note that Simpkinsville is about where Old Texas is on current maps. Also, try the USGS mapping service. Your Obedient Servant, D. A. Bass-Frazier

>Hi All, >Can anyone tell me where Simpkinsville was located. I understand it was >a plantation in Monroe County. I'm looking for the parents of Eleanor Simpkins >who married Bethel Joseph Jones on Nov. 25, 1833 in Monroe County. Any >help greatly appreciated. >Linda McAdam > > >==== ALMONROE Mailing List ==== >*****Monroe County Mailing List***** >To Unsubscribe, send the command unsubscribe to >ALMONROE-L-request@rootsweb.com Dear Linda, I had a note from you in December, I think. I would like to know if you have learned any more about your Eleanor and Bethel Joseph Jones. I am still working on my John Bud Jones family and would like to learn if John is related to your Bethel. Freda in California Freda and Ted Noble tnoble@mcn.org

Hello Freda, DABF is correct (once again). The name was changed from Simpkinsville to Old Texas. The USGS maps show them in slightly different locations, probably due to minor changes in where the major road, store, and P. O. were at the time. I think the Bethlehem Church and Cemetery are real closs to where the USGS has Simpkinsville. To see them on a map use the link below. <A HREF="http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html">Click here: USGS Mapping Information: GNIS United States and Territories Data Base Query Form</ A> http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html Grant

I am looking for information and ancestry on Manning Harp (sometimes Harrup) who appears in the 1830, 1840, 1850 census for Monroe County AL. Also looking for a William Moore who was m. to a Rachel Beauchamp and may have moved somewhere in the Monroe area prior to 1840. Kristina Simms ktina@alltel.net

Freda, Thanks for offering to search for CRAWFORD surname in above edition. Take it this is the first one, which means if this info was lost before new one was printed makes it even more valueable. Couldn't ask you to search if there's no index. Too time consuming but appreciate the offer. WinkieFL@aol.com