Hi . I am adding the following to the Mobile Co., ALGenWeb site this week. Thought you all might enjoy it on the list. A sneak preview, as it were. This will be in 3 parts. Carol Middleton ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Excerpted from "Colonial Mobile: An Historical Study largely from Original Sources, of the Alabama Tombigbee Basin from the Discovery of Mobile Bay in 1519 until the Demolition of Fort Charlotte in 1821", Peter Hamilton (Houghton, Mifflin and Company, 1897) Chapter XVI: Some Old Families Part 1 of 3 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- By the middle of the century, the Mobile country had been well-explored and settled, both about the sound and bay, and far up the rivers, too. Indian disturbances would play their part, but names would remain even when some of the plantations were abandoned. Almost all the names about Mobile, particularly of the watercourses, were given by the French, and are found on their maps and in their private and public documents. Strange to say, the Tombechbé is not on many French maps. It is almost always called Mobile River, -- so on Homann about 1720, Dumont, Du Pratz 1757, and others. Sometimes it is named for the Chickasaws among whom it rose, and by the English Coxe for the Choctaws, but only occasionally it received the name Tombechbé, which became usual under the British. The Alabama, however, almost uniformly was called R. des Alibamons, except by Coxe 1722, who names it Coza, or Coussa. Delisle is the real founder of modern geographical science, and his maps of Louisiana, for instance 1703, are valuable. Danville's map of Louisiana, 1732-52, is for Mobile points the best of all. It calls for Baye de la Mobile, has Pte. de la Mobile, and the now familiar Bay Minet, Ecor Rouge, R. aux Poissons (low down on which some maps give a waterfall), Isle Dauphine, with Islets aux Grand Goziers out towards the channel entrance, and our Little Dauphine Island is Isle A Guillori, with I. aux Herons nearer Pte. aux Huistres. There is also Pts. aux Pins, and R. A Derbane is not yet changed to La Batterie. Les Jones (grass islands) show the breakwaters of Portersville Bay, but Isle aux Herbes (Coffee Island) is not given, nor the Pass a Barreau to the east. The bay at Choctaw Point is marked two fathoms, and all below is three, -- an improvement on Delisle's two and a half. Miragouane seems nearer Gross Pte. , but Bellefontaine between Rivieres aux Poules and Chevreuil and R. aux Chiens are the same. Chateau Bienville in our Garrow's Bend we have seen, but Chacteau Sauvagé with two village marks, one on each side of Dog River, at different places, would seem to point to the Choctaws, whom Bienville had transplanted there. Of the people, we of course know more of the residents of Mobile town, but, besides Boissy near Toulminville, the Baudins on Miragounae or Mon Louis Island, and the Carriers over near Bay Minette, we find traces of some of the many settlers up Mobile River still mentioned even after the change of flag. Many of their names are lost to us, but, as a southern Acadian race, they tilled the river banks, and the smoke from homes of thrifty settlers rose amid the figs and vines from Mobile up beyond the fork of the rivers. Gayety was not lacking, and pirogues carrying pleasure parties would pass the farmer or the hunter taking his products to town, or hail the solemn Indian in the bayous. We should naturally expect to meet them mostly about the bluffs, not on the swamp lands predominant below Twenty-one Mile Bluff, and so it was. This, the first highland, was occupied by Beauchamps, who sold to Grondel, for whom the plantation was called St. Philippe, and a little promontory almost making up a part of it is even yet sometimes called La Prade. Lizard Creeks across in the delta were long named for Beauchamps, and Bayou Registe a little above we have noticed as at least certainly French. Creek Dubrocas, including the Brus, have long lived near Twenty-one Mile Bluff, although the French grand places B. Dubroca, south of Bayou Sara. About the site of the old fort we do not find settlers, but the well-known La Tours seem to have been near the river bend a mile above. Bayou Mathieu across in the delta may commemorate the curé of this name, and Krebs Lake perpetuates some one of that family. Part 2 to come

Hi. LDS has their much-anticipated beta site online. Go to http://eval.familysearch.com/default.asp Accept all cookies offered and be patient. It may not be easy to get in and get results. They are swamped. You can at least get an idea of what it will be like. At this point, I have no handy tips other than the cookie one. Still trying to get a grip on it myself. After a trial period of about 3 weeks, the site will be taken down and tweaked. Good luck, Carol Middleton

HINES, Michael came to Mobile in 1833. He came from Alsace-Lorrain. I would like to know about his passage, what boat he may have come on, with who,etc. I am new to geneology and this is the first time I have tried to find out about how one of my ancestors came here. Also I am quite new to geneology. Secondly, I would like to know what census he would probably be found on? Thank you for any help you can give. Blessings. Barbara Hines

Hello, I am searching for information on the following family. Any help wpuld be appreciated. Generation No. 2 2. SIMON4 BREWTON (JOSEPH3, JOSEPH2, JOHN1) was born March 25, 1858. He married ALMEDIA ENTREKIN December 19, 1879 in SUMERDALE, AL. BALDWIN CO.. Children of SIMON BREWTON and ALMEDIA ENTREKIN are: i. IDA5 BREWTON, b. December 1880. Notes for IDA BREWTON: Ida married Emmit Gentry. She is buried in St. Paul's cemetery Pascagula, Ms. ii. ROYAL BREWTON, b. April 1882. Notes for ROYAL BREWTON: Royal married Julia Palmer iii. JOSEPH BREWTON, b. July 1883; d. 1902. iv. MARK SHEFFLIN BREWTON, b. August 09, 1887; d. May 12, 1981, Mobile, Al.. Notes for MARK SHEFFLIN BREWTON: Mark married Annie Laura Palmer More About MARK SHEFFLIN BREWTON: Fact 1: Magnolia cemetary, Mobile, Al. 3. v. MARY ELIZABETH GERTRUDE BREWTON, b. October 14, 1893, Mobile, Al; d. September 07, 1939, Baldwin Co. Sumerdale, Al. Generation No. 3 3. MARY ELIZABETH GERTRUDE5 BREWTON (SIMON4, JOSEPH3, JOSEPH2, JOHN1) was born October 14, 1893 in Mobile, Al, and died September 07, 1939 in Baldwin Co. Sumerdale, Al. She married EMILE THEODORE HILLBERG April 12, 1911 in Mobile, Al.. Notes for MARY ELIZABETH GERTRUDE BREWTON: Mary married Emile Theodore Hillberg, 04 April 1911 Looking, searching seeking, Mary

Susann, Deer Park is in Washington Co. Al. All BMD records are kept at the county seat Chatam, AL. You could also look in Leaksville MS. which is near Deer Park. I have found often couples went to Leaksville for some reason, maybe road conditions in the early years. Good luck, Buddy

[email protected] Help! Does anyone have a census 1850-1860 Mobile Co., Alabama. If so,could you please look for the family of James Davis md to Nancy Jane Pierce, looking for the names of their children. Thanks so much. Lynda Lovejoy

Hello... I'm researching Sieur LeFleau>Jacques LeFleau>Jean Baptiste LeFleau>Louis LeFleau>Benjamin LeFlore> Sarah LeFlore Groves>Presley Groves>Laura Groves Peterson... Louis LeFlore was born in the French colony town of Mobile (Alabama)... I would like to share info with anyone researching the LeFlore's... Anyone have info on a book entitled "Mobil Love Letters"? The contents? I have not had any luck trying to locate the book... Any suggestions? Thanks, glenda peterson

Dear Woodie and Elsie: Thanks for your tip on Fairford! Would you or anyone else have ideas on a logical place for Deer Park residents to get hitched? And where would those records (B, M, D,) be located? My thanks again for your kind reply, Susann Whiddon Wandrey Researching: ADAMS, WEBSTER, PAINE, WHIDDON, TUCKER [email protected] wrote: > Subject: > > ALMOBILE-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 44 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [ALMOBILE-L] Re: ALMOBILE-D Digest [[email protected]] > #2 Re: Land Patents online [Bronya Feldmann <[email protected]] > #3 [ALMOBILE-L] BLM site [[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from ALMOBILE-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [ALMOBILE-L] Re: ALMOBILE-D Digest V99 #43 > Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:51:23 EST > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > About that time there was a thriving city called Fairford Alabama w hich was > closer to Deer Park than Citronelle I think. woodie and elsie wallace > > ______________________________ > >

I am reposting my query got the new list subscribers. Thanks, Jim ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for information on the Boner Branch Cemetery I have been looking for the location of the Boner Branch Cemetery for the past several weeks. Some of my HARTLEY ancestors are said to have been buried there. I found the following reference in a Historical Homecoming Bulletin for Satsuma United Methodist Church dated 1969 on page 74. "Many of the Hartley's are buried in the cemetery known as Boner Branch and is now close to the Frisco Railroad tracks and completely covered with trees and vines. It was at one time a very large and well kept cemetery, and there were graves dated back to the 1700's." Newsclippings state they were buried near Cleveland Station, which is now the Satsuma and Saraland, AL area. Can anyone provide me with any information on the Alexander Hartley family during the years between 1815 and 1902 and the whereabouts of the Boner Branch Cemetery? Thank you. Jim Moore P.O. Box 501 Satsuma, AL 36572 -- webpage: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/4943/index.htm Surnames interests: MOORE, HARTLEY, MALONE, LIPSCOMB, CHASTANG, LEWIS, RAWLS, WINBERG, NELSON, BUZBEE

Bronya, I know exactly what you mean about the Bureau of Land Management site. It IS easy and fun. For any of you all who have not been there, here are some tips: If you have a viewer, you can download digital images of actual land patents. There are also text versions. BLM offers a free viewer for downloading, if you don't have one; it is good as long as you are not on a mac. You go to the site at http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ enter your zip code after the prompt then enter your ancestor's name (don't have to have full name -- just surname) then you are given a list of names to choose from click on the ones you wish view land record (a text version + a digital copy are offered) print them out on the spot. Note: accept all the cookies that are offered. That will keep the process running smoothly. There is also an option to order copies for a very nominal fee ($1 each, I think, may be wrong, but pretty low). The original 13 colonies are not covered so GA is out. Still Alabama, Arkansas, Florida are there plus Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Ohio or Wisconsin. Go there when you have some time to spare. It is not the speediest site, but really terrific! Carol Middleton your friendly listowner

For those who have copies of land patents from the BLM site, you can sent a copy and $6.00 to National Archives Trust Fund, PO Box 100793, Atlanta, GA. 30384-0793 and receive a copy of the original land patent application, which has much information such as family size, house size, acres developed, acres farmed, neighbor witness, etc. It takes about 6 weeks to receive the copy but is well worth the wait. Buddy Bryan Creola, al.

I believe that it was someone on this list who published information about the Bureau of Land Management's web site with the land patent information. I just wanted to say that I've visited this site and have been able to download five (!) digitalized copies of land patents from the US Government to two of my great-great-grandfathers (one a plantation owner in Mobile Co., the other in Covington Co., MS). I can't believe how easy (and fun) it was to just receive a copy of one of these legal documents from 1840 and 1850, respectively. Each was signed on behalf of the then U.S. Presidents, Martin Van Buren and Zachary Taylor. Even though the surveyor lingo describing the position of the acreage within the government land meant nothing to me, the age of the document and the historical significance is very exciting. BTW-it can also be a good way to "place" your ancestor in a certain location in a given span of years if you are unsure when they arrived there. Bronya Feldmann Berkeley, CA

About that time there was a thriving city called Fairford Alabama w hich was closer to Deer Park than Citronelle I think. woodie and elsie wallace

Dear David and List, 'Fraid I don't have answers---only more questions, but they may be answerable by one or more of you. I have a Charles Whiddon (poss from FL., Eng or Ire--he's my tricky one!) married to a Catherine PAINE of Deerpark, AL. Not sure of their marriage date, but am assuming it was sometime in very early 1880's or 1870's. (they had my grandfather, Chas. Wilson Whiddon in July '83) Since I have been lead to be believe they were married and resided FOR A WHILE in Deerpark, Al., where would they have actually married? In CITRONELLE as David's post mentioned? Or would it have been more expeditious to have married in Deerpark where Catherine was from? Next question: Where are records kept for marriages in these places? "" "" Where are likely cemeteries in same said areas??? Any data for these avail. online? Well, you see where I am going (wandering!)---any help would be welcome and a godsend!! Thank you, Susann Whiddon-Wandrey Researching: PAINE, WHIDDON, TUCKER, WEBSTER, ADAMS in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana, Virginia and throughout the South

I am looking for information on Ossian Brownlee Huggins,born abt. 1848, who was married to Nannie Dell Cummings in Birmingham, AL. He spent the later part of his life in the Mobile area. He died of Yellow Fever in November 1897 and was buried in Magnolia Cemetery in Mobile. Thanks, Mary Ann Bell

Need info, on Huy,or Huey and Iverson families, long term residents of the Whistler area (1840,s -1920's) Many family buried at the old part of Whistler cem. Anyone with info on Whistler cem. or the Whistler historical group please contact me at [email protected] Thanks Jim

I am a descendent of Emanuel Howard and Susana Harrell of the Citronelle area. They were married October 1, 1859 in Mobile County, and a William Howard signed the marriage bond for proof of Emanuel's age. Susana was born November 6, 1832. My problem is this: I do not know who Emanuel's father is. There were two (2) Howards living in the Citronelle area who had sons named Emanuel. There was Loammi Howard (born 1804 in Georgia) married to Delilah Anne (Annie) Prine, and there was Daniel Howard (born 1803 in Georgia) married to Ada (Eady) Harrell. These two Howards were most likely brothers. Loammi's Emanuel was born in 1838 and Daniel's Emanuel was born in 1834. Daniel also had a son named William (could this be the William on Emanuel and Susana's marriage bond?). I have been told (no proof) that Loammi was my Emanuel's father, but due to Daniel's Emanuel being closer to Susana's age and having a brother named William, I am having serious doubts. Does anyone have any information on this family that might help to clear things up? Here is my Ancestry to help: Emanuel Howard b: 1834/1838 d: abt 1920 married: Susana Harrell - son: Elijah Isaih Howard b: 1871 d: 1952 married Florence Welford -son: Charles Edward Howard b: 1896 d: 1986 married Estelle Marie Draime - Thomas Earl Howard b: 1941 d: still living married Linda Kay Hines - David Earl Howard (me) Thanks for any help, David

[email protected] Looking for any information on James Davis Md Nancy Jane Pierce March 20, 1844 in Mobile Co., Alabama.I was told they had 5 or 6 children there by 1852.I would appreciate any information provided. Thanks Lynda.

Elizabeth, I checked the SSDI for her, and this is what I found. You might check for a death certificate, and possibly a birth cert. if it is available. Also get her records from Social Security. You might also do a lateral search for George in the 1910-1920 censuses. Both got their SSN's in AL, but maybe not in Mobile county. Hope this helps. BJ Social Security Records: U.S., 1937-1993 Kofonis, George Birth date : Apr 16, 1892 Death date : Jan 1967 SS# : 417-18-3091 State in which Social Security number was issued : AL State of residence at death : AL Zip code of last known residence : 36603 Kofonis, Mary Birth date : Mar 31, 1909 Death date : Jan 1978 SS# : 417-18-3092 State in which Social Security number was issued : AL State of residence at death : AL Zip code of last known residence : 36605 This zip is in the city of Mobile. [email protected] wrote: > Seeking information of Mary KOFONIS living Mobile AL area from possibly > 1920 -1970. This is believed to be her maiden name,although it may not > be.There are no KOFONIS in the 1910 and 1920 census records for this area. > She is said to have given birth to a son 29 June 1933 in Mobile AL, who was > adopted out. Father may have had the name LESURE/LESSIEUR/LESEURE or variant > spelling. Mary KOFONIS died about 1969-1970. Any information would be > greatly appreciated. This is a grandmother. Thank all of you for your > vigilance. > Elizabeth Rivera <[email protected]> > 850 S. Longmore #281 > Mesa, AZ 85202

Sorry folks, for the slammer (re: microfilm) a while ago. Didn't see it coming. He also hit 4 other lists I am on. He is removed from this one. Carol