RootsWeb: PALMER-L [PALMER-L] Fw: A Great Lady A great lady I want to tell you'll about. She was born about 1808.Where? I wish I knew,and what her life was like as a young girl.Mormon records goes like this,"William Mansell and wife Morning Dove white lived in Marion County Alabama 1825".William Mansell got a land grant (T.9--R.16--S.13)Marion County Alabama, from the Great white Chief in Washington for his service as a soldier in Seminole war in Florida. Morning Dove was his 2th.wife,William already had 4 children by the first wife "(Ellender Jane Egar)"Morning Dove never seen inside a school,she was looked upon as nothing.Not even a citizen in the land of her birth.No right to vote.(My grandfather) John H.Palmer remembered her as a small woman with brown skin and cold black eyes,long black and gray hair.In her old days she lived with her 4 children that lived several miles apart.John Palmer said she would run trails through the woods,(where there was all kinds of wild beast,) but it did not stop her.John recalled(he thought this was funny) one day one of his older brothers said (with grandma present)"if I could find a girl as pretty as grandma( Morning Dove) I would get married",Granny smiled and went to the looking glass and combed her hair.No Morning dove did not impress nobody much in her life,she died about 1863.Her oldest child Morning Dizena,Born 1826.Married Dr.Russell Porter Palmer and of their 11 boys and one girl there was three doctors one elected to the legislature from Winston county,several among the industrious and enterprising citizens of the County, also 2 preachers, Two spent time in prison. Morning Dove's children were. Morning Dizena Mansell,born 1826 in Marion County Alabama. A son John Mansell born 1828 gggrandfather of Elvis. James Jordan Mansell born 1834 killed in the civil war. Daughter:Fealy born 1834 married a Barns. Morning Dove never got allot of honor and praise in her days here on earth,but if it not been for her I would not be here or there never would have been a Elvis Presley,or Karen Wheaton, Thanks, Granny,I know you got to be in the happy hunting ground.Hundreds of your grandchildren appreciate you.I do for sure.Your gggrand son,Joel Palmer.