Marion County Searchers: Have one of you researched and documented the locations of families on the 1860 Census? THEORY: IF it is generally true that the census taker went from house to house down a particular road, THEN we should be able to locate specific house sites. Have one of you done that already? Thank you. Sharon Tomback

Strange to me but I am researching a lot of lines trying to find rumored Native American connections in Al and itsems that so many seem to lead to Marion co. I still can`t seem to prove many cannections The records just don`t seem to reflect native America as the families have been told. Iknow this is a vagur question but maybe someone can follow my drift. Lori

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ELLIOTT-----WESTBROOK Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RS.2ADE/1222 Message Board Post: My father said before he passed away in 1999 that the last time that his great grandfather was saw by his family.That he was an old man and the REBELS came and took him away. He was all bent over and chained up.Does anyone know what happened to a Benjamin W.Elliott? Need proof when Benjamin W.Elliott married Sarah C.Westbrook. Thanks in advance? What was the relationship of Wiley Walter Westbrook, that married Tura Elliott, to Tura Elliott 's grandmother Sarah C.Westbrook,wife of Benjamin W.Elliott. tess

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fedrick, Fedric, Frederick, Fredericks, Fredrick Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RS.2ADE/1221 Message Board Post: Dear Alabama Frederick Families: In conducting my Frederick research I have learned that many families with the Frederick surname (with some variations in spelling) live in many states other than my area of focus, which is North Carolina. I also see that we use various message boards to post our requests for help in finding our ancestors. While this sometimes produces information and leads to great contacts, it is not very efficient. My results have been disappointing, even though I have met some very wonderful people. I believe that many with the Frederick surname (here used generically to cover all spellings) have common ancestors. What we probably will find are several (possibly many) Frederick family ancestral lines, some connected and some very separate. Some will find their ancestors are German, some English, some Scots-Irish, some French, and some from other countries. We all will find, however, family that we did not know existed. Even within a given state I see separate concentrations of Frederick families with no obvious connection. I will give you an example from my own research. I am focusing on Person County, North Carolina, the home of my father’s family. Less than 100 miles away in Duplin County, North Carolina is a very large concentration of a very distinguished Frederick family. I have found no connection between the two Frederick families or any evidence that there is no connection. That bothers me. Also, from my own research I have learned that in the early/mid 1800’s many Frederick families moved from Person County, North Carolina, to Missouri and Kentucky. Some also went to Illinois. I want to find these people, learn about them and the history of their family in their adopted states, see their pictures, and attend their reunions. However, I am having little luck in making connections. I see the Frederick name in Washington, California, Texas, Alabama, Ohio, and on and on. My research also revealed a concentration of Frederick families in eastern Pennsylvania in the 1700’s. Many of us undoubtedly are descended from these early Pennsylvania families. Accordingly, I suggest that we combine our efforts in a manner that will further each of our individual research efforts but that also will create a body of Frederick research available for all to use. I envision a national program that will bring some order and structure to our individual efforts. I am open to suggestions, but to get the ball rolling I propose that we have one or more Frederick Heritage coordinators from each state with a large enough Frederick presence to make the effort worthwhile. We would select a central coordinator (or coordinators) to organize the effort and make sure that it remained focused. While I am surely not the most qualified person to act as that central coordinator, I gladly will take on that responsibility initially until we find someone with a better skill set than mine. I envision a web site that will remain narrowly focused on Frederick genealogical research. While we eventually may want other web sites or message boards that are more personable in nature (recognizing anniversaries, birthdays, etc.), that would not be part of this Frederick Heritage site. It would be more limited in scope. The focus would be discovering and sharing genealogical research and materials related to the Frederick and closely allied surnames. While I do not want to imply that it would be purely academic in nature, my vision is that it have a very narrow scope. If such an effort has already been undertaken or is ongoing, please let me know. I have no desire to re-invent any wheels and gladly would add my support to any effort that is underway. However, if there is no such effort and any of my Frederick “cousins” believe what I have outlined has merit, please email me. If you are willing to act as a coordinator for your state, please let me know. If you have ideas about the computer aspects of the web site, please share them. If you are the administrator of this Frederick message board, please contact me with your input. I envision there being less bureaucracy and more fun, but we must keep our eye on the ball, which is to learn about our Frederick heritage and to discover our ancestors. I realize that what I have proposed is very general. That is why your input is so critical. It will be our program,and it will take our ideas to make it have any value. Please send me your thoughts. Warmest personal regards. Richmond Stanfield Frederick, Jr. Note to Board Administrators: I am posting similar messages on several surname and county message boards to obtain the widest distribution possible. Hopefully, I have not entered any duplicate messages. As I am an administrator myself on several boards, I am sensitive to spamming message boards.

I am looking for anyone who has a copy of Corkren-Logan Ancestries by E. Mays Stewart published in 1984. Does anyone know where I could find a copy, I would like to to buy a copy of my own, but my searches online have come up with nothing. Can anyone help??? Thanks in advance. Chad Baker Clinton, Iowa I will be leaving on saturday to work out of town, if I do not reply back right away please be patient

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RS.2ADE/1220 Message Board Post: Final Registration Call, BOBO Family Reunion The 2005 BOBO Family Reunion will be in Tuscaloosa and Fayette, AL, 27-30 May. Activities will include reports on family research projects and publishing projects, several meals together and visits to area cemeteries and research facilities. All cousins are invited to attend. We will honor Mrs. Jeanie NEWELL, who with her late husband Herb, published the book, “BOBO…Cousins by the Dozens.” If you can attend only one day, make it Saturday, 28 May. Activities will include reports on activities of the BOBO Assn., including research, family history and current family activities. Activities include a buffet luncheon and the annual dinner at the Jerry Belk Activity Center, 2101 Bowers Park Drive. Jeanie NEWELL will be given recognition at the day’s activities. The March and April BOBO Roots-Cellar Newsletters can be downloaded from www.FamilyBobo.org for a description of all activities. We need your responses immediately in ordering food for the Saturday events. Contact: Charles H. (Chuck) BOBO, Coordinator The BOBO Family Assn. E-Mail: FamilyBobo@aol.com

Do you know the Elizazbeth Harper's parents or siblings? I am looking for three Elizabeth Harpers, one born 1848, one 1859, one 1832. Mary> > From: rhodes_g@bellsouth.net > Date: 2005/05/11 Wed AM 07:56:26 EDT > To: ALMARION-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Alvin J.Franks and 1st wife Elizabeth White(?) > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RS.2ADE/1214.1.2.3 > > Message Board Post: > > Joel, > Where did you get the date of death for Elizabeth Harper White? I know that she married Thomas Tinsley after John Martin White Jr's death in 1840. I had assumed she died in Talledega County. Would be great if she did indeed die in Marion County. The death date certainly is reasonable. > > Thanks > Dorothy > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RS.2ADE/1214.1.2.3 Message Board Post: Joel, Where did you get the date of death for Elizabeth Harper White? I know that she married Thomas Tinsley after John Martin White Jr's death in 1840. I had assumed she died in Talledega County. Would be great if she did indeed die in Marion County. The death date certainly is reasonable. Thanks Dorothy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Duke , Lindsey , Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RS.2ADE/1214.1.2.2 Message Board Post: Being a descendant of Elizabeth Frances White; I'm curious as to the source of the death date and location you gave for Elizabeth Harper. I still have no proof that Elizabeth Frances White is in fact the lady who married my ggggrandfather, Meredith Duke.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Miles, Cox, McWhirter, Worthy, Sexton, Johnston, Hallmark, White, Berryhill Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RS.2ADE/1219 Message Board Post: I am looking for James "Jim" Butler's wifes. His 1st wife was Mary Catherine Moore who is buried at Center Cem. His 2nd wife was known as Maggie. I need to know her whole name, maiden name, & her date of birth. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Susan

Group Help Please, Who is "E. L. Markham" buried 2 graves away from I. Rebecca Mays? E. L. Markham's tombstone reads "Mother of I. R. Mays - 1824-1908". Two graves away, I. Rebecca Mays' tombstone reads born 18 October 1855 died 28 January 1921(presumably I. Rebecca Mays is the wife of Rev. Andrew J. Mays, who is buried next to I. Rebecca). Do any of you have a clue for me? Thank you. Sharon Tomback

Group, Have any of you documented the identity of Rebekah Markham who reportedly 1) was born in 1851 2) married Daniel E. Sizemore 3) was the mother of Theodoshia Sizemore Gann (Mrs. George Henry Gann) Thank you. Sharon Tomback

Elsie, Am having problems receiving your messages, are you getting mine? Sorry about posting this to the mail list. Jimmie

I am searching for Butler's of Marion county. I have Joseph C or S Butler and his wife was Susan Fannie and they had 9 children. I know that Joseph's mother name was Sarah J but I can not find a father for Joseph. I know that Joseph was remarried between the 1910 and 1920 census but can not find anything about Susan Fannie's death. Does anyone have any information on these people. Thank you

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gamel, Tucker, Cavness Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RS.2ADE/106.131.133.138.282.2 Message Board Post: Ann, Catharina Tucker m. William Gamel on 3 Jan. 1842 in Monroe County, Georgia. They had a son John Gamel born 1844 in Columbia, GA and then moved to Willcox Alabama where my great grandfather, Thomas Welsey Gamel was born in Nov. 1846. From there they moved to Mason Co.,TX in 1850. Please contact me.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sullivan, Cantrell, Stidham Wallace Houghton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RS.2ADE/70.316.1.1.1.1.1.1.5 Message Board Post: Please contact me. Bob Sullivan grandson of Anderson Bailey Sullivan

Hi Joel, Thanks much for the summary. Food for thought, as I wonder when and where the name popped up. My Solomon Stewart was in Marion County through 1823 or 1824, when he moved to Tuscaloosa. He was in the Marion County militia in 1822 for sure, and I wonder what existed at that time? cheers, Dick Stewart

Robert: I'm doing both Scott and Robison (Robinson) research, but I don't have Alice listed anywhere in my information. I'll keep an eye out for her. There are a couple of Henry Rob*sons, that I've found, but they were born long before your Henry. In the meantime, you could take a look at the 1880 Marion County, AL, census images found here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/al/marion/census/1880/?o_xid=9872&o_li d=9872&o_xt=22471898 I know that it's a lot to look through, but I haven't found an index online. Jessie Emerson

Dick, Regarding the small village of Stewart's Gap/Glen Allen; I've seen Civil War pension document describing where my Whitehead family lived as being "3 miles south of Glen Allen", but I don't have ready-at-hand the date of the particular document. There's another village/now-abandoned except for occasional coal-mining on the Marion/Winston border called Glen Mary, so I would suspect some Scots-Irish influence behind those two names - perhaps dating to the RR &/or coal-mining origins. As for the 1820s, the present village of Glen Allen was perhaps merely wilderness (or the ancient site of an Indian village?), but it was accessible to new settlers being situated roughly 5 miles west of the intersection (near present Eldridge) of the Byler Road (built by 1822 along old Indian trail connecting Tuscaloosa to Muscle Shoals) and the old Chickasaw Trading Path (roughly running between Pontotoc MS to Pikeville AL thence through Glen Allen area to Eldridge/Jasper/Elyton/Atlanta area/Augtusta/Charleston SC - in use during the mid 1700s). Some families thereabouts claim that one or more full-blood Indian Chiefs lived and intermarried with known "white" families during the mid-1800s. Jim Manasco, Winston County naturalist and historian has written about the "more than 300 Cherokee/Creeks who fought with Andrew Jackson at horseshoe bend who relocated from near Turkey Town on the Coosa River to the general area between New River/Glen Allen/Eldridge/Nauvoo (this being central)/Kansas/Saragosa/Harmony/Oakman/Falls City, etc. and thereby escaped the later Trail-of-Tears relocation. Many (most?) of the early families that settled near Glen Allen had/have strong mixed-blood Cherokee or Choctaw family traditions. Joel S. Mize Unionists of the Warrior Mountains of Alabama ----- Original Message ----- From: "RMS" <rmstewart@myexcel.com> To: <ALMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:38 AM Subject: Re: Glen Allen - Stewart's Gap > H'lo again, Monya :-) > > I was just thru Winfield last week and it re-occured to me that I've still > never been able to find out why > it was named Stewart's Gap. > > Also, I don't know what it was called in 1820-1821-1822, which is my focus. > > My Solomon Stewart bought land in 1820-1821 and someone plotted the 80 acres > for me one time > and it fell right on top of Glen Allen. Of the 'clan of 7' that I call > them, only Solomon had land up there, > I believe, with the other brothers buying land further south between > Winfield and south of Fayette. > > So, as you can imagine, I'm wondering about that. > > Cheers, > > Dick Stewart > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Monya Havekost" <MonyaH@conterra.com> > To: <ALMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:19 PM > Subject: Re: Glen Allen - Stewart's Gap > > > > Dick, I've sent some of this to you before but I'll send it again, > > including some additional info. > > > > Sesquicentennial Broadcaster, Sept. 1969, page 5 > > > > "In the early times, Glen Allen was known as Stewart's Gap. The > > community was later called Glen Allen, supposedly after two engineers > > who worked with the railroad company." > > > > Additional information from this full-page article: > > > > The STEWART family is listed in early Methodist church records. The > > page on which this article appears has a photo of the Henry STEWART > > family. Included are wife, Mary Jane, children James H. STEWART; > > Lillie Stewart SMITH; Mrs. ANTHONY; Ola Stewart ASTON; Frank STEWART. > > Henry STEWART operated a sand pit, one of the first businesses in Glen > > Allen. > > > > In July, 1969, the mayor was Nash NELSON. Council members were W. H. > > STEWART; Joe STEWART; W. E. (Edwin) PATTERSON; P. A. HOLLINGSWORTH and > > Caldwell HOLLINGSWORTH. > > > > Lastly, my 88-year-old cousin who has lived her entire life in Glen > > Allen, confirms that it was once known as Stewart's Gap. > > > > One caveat: When I searched the US Geological Survey site, I found no > > listing for Stewart's Gap in Fayette or Marion counties. So, you'll > > need to decide whether to choose the recollections of those who lived > > there or the official government website. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Monya > > > > Fayette Co. AL list manager > > ASTON surname list manager > > MUSGROVE surname list manager > > THOMPSON surname list manager > > Researching: ANDERSON, ANDERSEN (Norway), ASTON, BISHOP, DODSON, > > FYLLINGSNES (Norway), GRANT, HARRIS, HOWELL, JORDAN, LESLIE, McDILL, > > McDONALD, MILLIGAN, MORTON, MUSGROVE, OWEN, PEDEN, SOUTH, THOMPSON and > > WEBSTER > > On Apr 25, 2005, at 7:09 PM, RMS wrote: > > > > > Somewhere I read that Glen Allen was originally known as Stewart's Gap. > > > > > > Can anyone offer any clues as to the veracity of this? > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > Dick Stewart > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. 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H'lo again, Monya :-) I was just thru Winfield last week and it re-occured to me that I've still never been able to find out why it was named Stewart's Gap. Also, I don't know what it was called in 1820-1821-1822, which is my focus. My Solomon Stewart bought land in 1820-1821 and someone plotted the 80 acres for me one time and it fell right on top of Glen Allen. Of the 'clan of 7' that I call them, only Solomon had land up there, I believe, with the other brothers buying land further south between Winfield and south of Fayette. So, as you can imagine, I'm wondering about that. Cheers, Dick Stewart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monya Havekost" <MonyaH@conterra.com> To: <ALMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Glen Allen - Stewart's Gap > Dick, I've sent some of this to you before but I'll send it again, > including some additional info. > > Sesquicentennial Broadcaster, Sept. 1969, page 5 > > "In the early times, Glen Allen was known as Stewart's Gap. The > community was later called Glen Allen, supposedly after two engineers > who worked with the railroad company." > > Additional information from this full-page article: > > The STEWART family is listed in early Methodist church records. The > page on which this article appears has a photo of the Henry STEWART > family. Included are wife, Mary Jane, children James H. STEWART; > Lillie Stewart SMITH; Mrs. ANTHONY; Ola Stewart ASTON; Frank STEWART. > Henry STEWART operated a sand pit, one of the first businesses in Glen > Allen. > > In July, 1969, the mayor was Nash NELSON. Council members were W. H. > STEWART; Joe STEWART; W. E. (Edwin) PATTERSON; P. A. HOLLINGSWORTH and > Caldwell HOLLINGSWORTH. > > Lastly, my 88-year-old cousin who has lived her entire life in Glen > Allen, confirms that it was once known as Stewart's Gap. > > One caveat: When I searched the US Geological Survey site, I found no > listing for Stewart's Gap in Fayette or Marion counties. So, you'll > need to decide whether to choose the recollections of those who lived > there or the official government website. > > Best regards, > > Monya > > Fayette Co. AL list manager > ASTON surname list manager > MUSGROVE surname list manager > THOMPSON surname list manager > Researching: ANDERSON, ANDERSEN (Norway), ASTON, BISHOP, DODSON, > FYLLINGSNES (Norway), GRANT, HARRIS, HOWELL, JORDAN, LESLIE, McDILL, > McDONALD, MILLIGAN, MORTON, MUSGROVE, OWEN, PEDEN, SOUTH, THOMPSON and > WEBSTER > On Apr 25, 2005, at 7:09 PM, RMS wrote: > > > Somewhere I read that Glen Allen was originally known as Stewart's Gap. > > > > Can anyone offer any clues as to the veracity of this? > > > > cheers, > > > > Dick Stewart > > > > > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >