Everyone is invited to join us Monday night for an all-state Alabama genealogy chat: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm 9 pm Eastern; 8 pm Central; 7 pm Mt.; 6 pm Pacific This chat is a time to share questions, resources, lookups, and advise on researching your roots in Alabama. We'll cover any and all counties. Be sure and have your family tree printed out and your genealogy books handy. Previous chat transcripts can be seen here: http://huntsville.about.com/library/blalchat.htm If you've never been to a chat before and need instructions or would like to be added to my private chat reminder list, just send me an email. Hope to see you Monday! Jean Brandau huntsville2@comcast.net

I am looking for the birth and death dates for Kelley W. Marlowe and possibly daughters Elizabeth and Patricia and son Thomas. His wife's obituary: Liza Ann Hillis Marlowe Wells, 79 McMinnville resident and Van Buren County native Liza Ann Hillis Marlowe Wells, 79, died Sept. 3 at NHC Healthcare after an extended illness. A homemaker and a member of the Church of Christ, she was the daughter of Sol and Lou Hillis, and was preceded in death by her first husband, Kelly W. Marlowe, Sr., her second husband, Shirley Wells; daughters, Elizabeth and Patricia Marlowe; and son Thomas Marlowe. She is survived by sons and daughters-in-law, Kelly and Gwen Marlowe of McMinnville, Joe and Nancy Marlowe of Peoria, Ill., and Roger and Crystal Wells of Peoria, Ill.; stepson, Robert M. Wells of Alabama; sister Alice Whiteaker of McMinnville; 12 grandchildren, 13 great-grandchildren, several nieces and nephews. Services will be held at 10 a.m. today at High's Chapel with Danny Sullivan and Willard Ralph, Jr., officiating. Graveside services will be held at 1:30 p.m. today at Charity Lane Cemetery in Hazel Green, Ala. Visitation will be held from 8 a.m. until time of local services today at High's. High Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements. Southern Standard, McMinnville, TN. Wednesday, 6 Sept 2000, p. 2-A. ---------------------------------------------------------- Ladye Jane Hunter

DD214 is actually a Department of Defense Form Entitled: Armed Forces of the United State Report of Transfer or Discharge. Don't know when the form was first used. But it is issued each time an individual is discharged from the military and each time the individual reenlisted. They discharge the individual and then reenlist them immediately. Actually he never leaves the military. There is a lot of important information on the DD214 Individual full name. Service number Social Security Number Department of the Military, ie, Army, Navy, Air Force Grade or Rank Date of Rank If a US citizen Place of Birth Date of Birth Selective Service Information: 1) selective service number; 2) selective local board location; 3) Date inducted Transfer or Discharge Information: 1. Type of Transfer or Discharge and where it was effected. 2. Reason and authority; effective date 3. Last dusty assignment and major command; type of certificate issued 4. District, area command; reenlistment code Service Data 1. Terminal date; Current active service other than by induction; Term of service (years); Date of entry 2. Prior Regular enlistment; grade at time of entry; Place of entry 3. Home of record at the time of entry; specialty number and title; related civil occupation; statement of service 4. Decorations, medals, badges and other citations 5. Education and training completed (military) Other information can be days of accrued leave, any allotments in force, VA claim number, Servicemen's Group Life Insurance and amount Remarks section can show: blood type, and civilian education, etc. Then there is the authentication section where the office responsible for the DD 214 signs and the service member also. This is a very important document for researchers. Also, if you know that the individual was a member of the VFW they maintain a copy of the DD214 also. Not sure if the American Legion does or not. But know for sure the VFW does, but do not know when they started the practice or how easily a copy maybe obtained or even if they will give you a copy because of privacy considerations. Hope this helps answer some questions concerning the DD214 Steve Scott

DD-214 Information. A DD-214 is a Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty. It includes Grade/Rank of the person, place of entry into active service, DOB, home of record, list of Decorations, medals, badges, citations, and campaign ribbons awarded or authorized for all periods of service. Also contains mailing address after separations, name of nearest relative, type of separation, character of service, and record of service. Record of service shows date entered active duty for this period. total active service. foreign service, sea service, etc. Finally shows the character of service of the person. Each time a person leaves or re-enlists in the service, he/she will receive a DD-214. You can get a form from your local Veterians Affairs Office requesting a copy of a persons DD-214. When doing so, also request acopy of the persons 201 file, which contains information as to where the person was during his service. Many servicemembers have copies of their DD-214's filed with their local Probate Judge. It's not a requirement, I have 2 of 3 of mine filed that way. Dale L. Blackburn Huntsville, Alabama

Put DD214 into your browser. You can actually pull up forms, etc. (blank) Dolores

Good information. Also remember that the discharge was filed where they enlisted and that is at their permanent address. Look for them at the county records office at the courthouse where marriages etc are kept. Sometimes you will luck out and find the records on film such as at the Dallas TX library where the WWI may be read on film for the county. Linda McCain Stansell _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Now that I think about it, maybe it would be a good idea to get your ancestor's DD214 and/or service record. The cause of death may be on his record other than the death record. Linda _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Depends on How long ago he was discharged. In all likelyhood will have to come from St Louis. My suggestion is to call your representative's home office. They have one staff member who handles all Veterans affairs. They can get it faster than tou can. Earnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Gilbert" <pgilbert10@juno.com> To: <ALMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:35 PM Subject: Re: DD214 > Where did you send to for the DD14. I have my fathers discharge but not > the DD214 > Pat gilbert > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Maybe death discharge, since everyone else's guesses seem to be around a discharge form? A friend sent me the link below about archaic medical terms and abbreviations, but that isn't in it. I am enclosing it for you in case you can use it in the future. http://www.gpiag-asthma.org/drpsmith/amt1.htm Martha ----- Original Message ----- From: "lewatkins" <lewatkins@farmerstel.com> To: <ALMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 5:51 PM Subject: Subject: military terminology > Could someone tell me the meaning of DD? It was written as the cause of death, in the Great War, of my uncle in the yr. 1918...Mary > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

DEAR LIST, I READ THE QUERIE ABOUT THE DISCHARGE; D.D.214. AND TALKED TO A PAST POST COMMANDER OF THE VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS. AND HE HAD TO SEE EVERYONE'S DISCHARGE BEFORE THEY COULD JOIN THE V.F.W. HE SAID THE D.D. WAS FOR DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 214. NOW ALL DISCHARGES HAVE IT ON THEM. JUST THOUGHT I WOULD PASS IT ALONG. ROSA (ARNOLD, MASSINGALE, HAMLET, PENNER.) ----- Original Message ----- From: <JoettaNell@aol.com> To: <ALMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: Re: medical terms/DD-214 > A DD-214 holds alot of information. It lists what the person's occupation was > (I can't remember the military term.), an honorable or dishonorable > discharge, rank, and a whole lot of information that I can't remember now. I > am medicated for a severe case of bronchities and infected sinus. If anyone > has a DD-214 on an ancestor and would like it explained to them, an idea > would be to take it to a military recruiter. I would suggest taking the > DD-214 to the branch of service the person served. Each branch has different > codes. I have family in all branches. > > I hope this helps. > Joetta > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 3/20/02 2:50:17 PM Central Standard Time, ALMADISO-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > This is far out, but the form a veteran has to have to get a VA loan & other > things is a DD 214. I have no idea what it means but think it is a > discharge. > > I suppose diarrhea and dysintery both woul;d qualify a a sort of discharge, but I believe I've read that in warfare the twin culprits were most often diarrhea -- or dysintery -- and the resultant dehydration. Maybe DD was a polite way to refer to "the trots." Al Hill

Where did you send to for the DD14. I have my fathers discharge but not the DD214 Pat gilbert

A DD214 is a discharge from the service. I have my grandfather's from his discharge at Montgomery in 1917 and it gives his rank, class, company, infantry, what unit he served plus if it was honorable or dishonorable and the date of discharge. Ann

Official form of discharge, shows type such as honorable, dishonorable, medical discharge, etc. Will have social security number, rank, date of discharge, place of, permanent home address. Teresa

A DD-214 holds alot of information. It lists what the person's occupation was (I can't remember the military term.), an honorable or dishonorable discharge, rank, and a whole lot of information that I can't remember now. I am medicated for a severe case of bronchities and infected sinus. If anyone has a DD-214 on an ancestor and would like it explained to them, an idea would be to take it to a military recruiter. I would suggest taking the DD-214 to the branch of service the person served. Each branch has different codes. I have family in all branches. I hope this helps. Joetta

Linda, Thank you for your response concerning the Madison County Probate records. The clerks are too busy and they don't know exactly where some of the documents are located for an easy search. I have ordered some microfilm from the LDS Church on Madison County Probate records/family files. I hope my ancestor's records are on the microfilm. Several people have responded, but all seem to miss my point. I am trying to let everyone know the woman they gave my letter to is charging way too much and she thinks that I am not aware that the family estate settlements/files are located at the Madison County Records Room at the Library. And for a fee of $1.00 per page you can have them copied and sent to you. There is no other charge. The only problem was that my ancestor's papers were missing from his file and had to be looked up in the old books. If Madison County is going to turn over my letter to someone to charge me a fee, the county should set some limits on the amount that can be charged and the person doing the abstracting should have to locate the record first and tell you exactly how many pages and the cost. I think $25.00 fee is too much. For a one page document, you would be charged $26.00. She said she was estimating the cost would be $35 and wanted me to send her that much. Since when do you estimate how many pages ? You look up the document and say how many pages there are. Apparently, the county is letting this woman do what she wants. Is there anyone out there who agrees with me ? Jane Vining

Try this site for clues to the medical term. http://www.gpiag-asthma.org/drpsmith/amt1.htm This is far out, but the form a veteran has to have to get a VA loan & other things is a DD 214. I have no idea what it means but think it is a discharge. Linda McCain Stansell _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Don't know how it works in Ala. or Madison County in particular, but you may want to initially contact the State Archives. NOT to request the record from them, but rather, ask them if Ala. has an Open Records Act (many states do). Discuss your situation with an archivist at the State Archives. Or - you may even be able to find the information you need by going through a good search engine. Open Records Acts generally stipulate that government officials must provide reasonable access (including in response to written inquiries) to official government records in their custody. That would include things like court records, etc. Sometimes simply mentioning "under the ___(fill in state here )____ Open Records Act I would like to request the will of Jim Doe, packet # 1234 dated March 15, 1853" or whatever. Some Open Records Acts even prohibit "charging unreasonable fees" (but often leave that undefined). In Kansas, there was a big stink raised by the newspapers over access to records, and wildly varying prices from county to county, for requests for the exact same kind of record. Madison County may be perfectly in their rights and legal to do what they have done....but, they may also be giving you the runaround. I know in some instances, if you state "Open Records Act" in your letter, you may receive better response. But not always, because there may not be such a law in that particular state - or, that law may expressly make provision for them to do referrals to outside sources. Ask the State Archives. They will know the law that is applicable. Good luck, and let us know what you find out! Linda B. At 10:48 PM 03/05/2002 , jv1@linkline.com wrote: >I sent to Madison County Probate a request for a copy of Will/estate >settlement on my ancestor. They turned my letter over to someone who said >she was an independant abstractor and she said that she charges $25 an >hour + $1.00 a page and estimates that it will cost me $35.00. Alot of us >would like to make $25 an hour. How come someone is allowed to charge that >much ? Why is she estimating instead of telling me exactly how many pages >there are ? She said that the papers were not located at the courthouse, I >guess meaning they are located at the Madison County Records Center at the >Huntsville Library. She didn't do her homework again. I had called there >first and was told that the records were missing from my ancestor's file >and I would have to send to the courthouse so they could copy his estate >records out of the old books. I sent them his case #. >Have any of you had problems like this when sending for probate records at >the Madison County Courthouse ? >Jane Vining > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Probably Died of Disease. That's not official on my part, but my best guess. Linda B. At 05:51 PM 03/18/2002 , lewatkins wrote: > Could someone tell me the meaning of DD? It was written as the cause of > death, in the Great War, of my uncle in the yr. 1918...Mary > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Could someone tell me the meaning of DD? It was written as the cause of death, in the Great War, of my uncle in the yr. 1918...Mary