Hello all, I've done a very silly thing, but it might benefit someone else, so all is not lost. I was waiting for the birth certificate of my partner's gt grandfather Richard ALLCHIN to arrive before I posted my first message to the list. *After* I had ordered the certificate, I looked again at the ALLCHIN references that I had copied from the GRO birth index and discovered that I had noted two Richard ALLCHIN births in two consecutive quarters in 1866. I had forgotten about the second one, and ordered the one registered in Mar qtr without specifing father's name or any other checking points. The phrases "silly me" and "brain dead" spring to mind. Kept my fingers crossed that I'd hit upon the correct one - but in vain. It arrived today, and is definitely the wrong Richard. I've got the birth certificate for the Richard who appears in the following 1881 census entry: Dwelling: Hamhill Census Place: Birling, Kent, England Source: FHL Film 1341213 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0898 Folio 81 Page 24 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Richard ALLCHIN M 57 M Birling, Kent, England Rel: Head Occ: Laborer Mary ALLCHIN M 51 F Ightham, Kent, England Rel: Wife Occ: Laborer Wife Robert ALLCHIN U 20 M Birling, Kent, England Rel: Son Occ: Laborer Richard ALLCHIN 15 M Birling, Kent, England Rel: Son Occ: Ag Lab John ALLCHIN 12 M Birling, Kent, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Arthur W. ALLCHIN 8 M Birling, Kent, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Anyone want him? Going cheap to good home. I'll order the correct (hopefully) certificate in the next few weeks. Meanwhile, the Richard I am interested in is part of the following family: Dwelling: The Rocks Census Place: East Malling, Kent, England Source: FHL Film 1341214 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0899 Folio 53 Page 12 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Stephen ALLCHIN M 49 M West Malling, Kent, England Rel: Head Occ: Bricklayer Sussannah ALLCHIN M 45 F Wateringbury, Kent, England Rel: Wife William ALLCHIN U 17 M Et Malling, Kent, England Rel: Son Occ: Lab In Brickfield Richard ALLCHIN 15 M Et Malling, Kent, England Rel: Son Occ: Lab In Paper Mill Lewis T. ALLCHIN 13 M Et Malling, Kent, England Rel: Son Edward ALLCHIN 12 M Et Malling, Kent, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar John S. ALLCHIN 7 M Et Malling, Kent, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Is anyone else interested in this branch of the ALLCHINs? Have lots of information about Richard's descendants, but very little about his ancestors or siblings. Angie Burnish Reading, Berks