Hi all and Especially Judy, Judy, I hope you didn't think I was screaming at you with the CAPS - I used them for emphasis, and one second after I hit 'send' thought about how that could appear. I assure you that emphasis was my only intention. Pat

Judy, You saw the INDEX to the 1900 Lauderdale Co Al census on the AlGenWeb ARCHIVES site. Can't recall the URL, and I don't have it bookmarked since my 'crash' a couple of months ago. Pat James Steve Sanders wrote: > > Cynthia, I just read the marriage postings on the Lauderdale Co. site tonight and I think it is great, also. Pat is doing a great job. > > I may be mistaken, but it seems a few weeks ago or so, I saw the 1900 Lauderdale Co. census on this page, but I didn't see it tonight. Am I wrong about the 1900 census being on this page? I may have seen it elsewhere. I visit so many different sites, I can't keep it all straight. > > Can someone tell me about this? > > Judy > > ==== ALLAUDER Mailing List ==== > Pat M. Mahan > CC Lauderdale Co ALGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~allauder/index.htm > Troy McCarley > CC AlGenweb Unknown County Query Page > http://www.rootsweb.com/~alunknow/index.html > McCarley Family Association > http://www.airnet.net/mccarley/index.html > McCarley Family Assoc. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/McCarley > Lauderdale County Alabama Mailing List- <ALLAUDER-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Slaton Family Mailing List-<SLATON-L-request@rootsweb.com> > > ============================== > Search more than 274 MILLION NAMES and find your ancestors at Ancestry.com! > Get started today at http://www.ancestry.com/rootswebtext.asp

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Cynthia, I just read the marriage postings on the Lauderdale Co. site tonight and I think it is great, also. Pat is doing a great job. I may be mistaken, but it seems a few weeks ago or so, I saw the 1900 Lauderdale Co. census on this page, but I didn't see it tonight. Am I wrong about the 1900 census being on this page? I may have seen it elsewhere. I visit so many different sites, I can't keep it all straight. Can someone tell me about this? Judy

Thanks to Pat for the Marriage postings. After all this time I found my g-grandpa's sister in the new index. Indiella Dyer and Bat Reeves, January 31, 1887, L. Jenkins MG. All I new of her was that her name was Indy. Maybe my Dyer's are not aliens after all. George A. Dyer was born in Giles Co. TN to Solomon Dyer and Nancy Taylor. Other children were Mary Ann, Nathan, and Henry besides Indy and George. Nancy Taylor Dyer is listed in the Lauderdale Co. 1900 census. This is all the information. If anyone sees anything familiar, let me know. Sincerely, Cynthia Chandler East Peoria, IL

I am researching the Catherine King family that was in the 1850 Lauderdale Co., AL. census. She is shown with her children: William A. born 1827 NC, Arnold (J.J.A.) born 1830 NC, Stephen born 1832 AL., Emeline born 1835 AL., Joseph born 1836 AL. George born 1839 AL., and Luke born 1843 AL. Catherine's husband is not known, but there is a James M. King household in the 1840 Lauderdale Co. census that closely resembles Catherine's in 1850. After 1843, Catherine's husband disappeared. Her youngest child was born in 1843, then about 1846 Catherine started making business transactions in Lauderdale. She is listed as a farm owner in the 1850 Lauderdale Co. Agricultural Census. Her last business transaction was in 1853. Nothing else is known about her after this. Most of her family is gone from Lauderdale Co. after 1860. Arnold (J.J.A.) King is the only child to remain close by. He married in Wayne Co. to Elizabeth Francis Stutts, then they appear in the 1860 and 1870 census of Lawrence Co., TN. He died in 1886 and is buried in the Emeline Stutts Cem. in Lauderdale Co. Does anyone know about this family? Even the least little info would help? Judy K.Sanders

Hi Lee, This is great! I hope everyone who finds such an error on these marriages will post to the list. At least we will be able to correct our files even if we can't correct the WPA work. HUMMM - What about a 'Corrections' page? And I don't mean just the marriages. I mean anything that's currently on the web site. As for the web page contents, these are YOUR pages, and if any of you have something in your files that you would like to share, e-mail me. If we don't have a 'spot' for it, we'll create one! Pat Lee Mathis wrote: > > Pat... > > Thanks for your efforts to put this data on-line... > > Second, the example of a possible WPA typo you used in your posting - > "Eallace" - should, in fact, be WALLACE as you should suggested. > > The entry says E. J. Eallace (bride) m. J. M. Murphey (groom). The bride > is actually Emma J. Wallace, daughter of John Wesley Wallace. According > to my records, the groom was the father of 9 children and among them was > Raymond Murphy a former city court judge in Florence. > > Thanks again... > > Regards, > > Lee Mathis > Arlington, VA > > ==== ALLAUDER Mailing List ==== > ==========================Lauderdale County Mailing List=============== > Pat M. Mahan > CC Lauderdale Co ALGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~allauder/index.htm > Troy McCarley > CC AlGenweb Unknown County Query Page > http://www.rootsweb.com/~alunknow/index.html > McCarley Family Association > http://www.airnet.net/mccarley/index.html > McCarley Family Assoc. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/McCarley > Lauderdale County Alabama Mailing List- <ALLAUDER-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Slaton Family Mailing List-<SLATON-L-request@rootsweb.com> > > ============================== > Search more than 274 MILLION NAMES and find your ancestors at Ancestry.com! > Get started today at http://www.ancestry.com/rootswebtext.asp

Pat... Thanks for your efforts to put this data on-line... Second, the example of a possible WPA typo you used in your posting - "Eallace" - should, in fact, be WALLACE as you should suggested. The entry says E. J. Eallace (bride) m. J. M. Murphey (groom). The bride is actually Emma J. Wallace, daughter of John Wesley Wallace. According to my records, the groom was the father of 9 children and among them was Raymond Murphy a former city court judge in Florence. Thanks again... Regards, Lee Mathis Arlington, VA

Good Morning Everyone, I've added Marriage Book E - Jan 1885 - Oct 1887. This is also a missing marriage book, which was copied by the WPA. I caution you to look for variant spellings. For instance, in the brides, there is an "Eallace" which could be "Ellis"? OR, was this supposed to be Wallace, and the typist hit an "E" instead of a "W"??? I've also added Pisgah Cemetery to T2 R12 cemeteries - thanks to Orlan Irons. All queries and surname additions are posted thru midnight last night. If you have trouble with anything, let me know. Pat

Hi, I am just starting to research my husband's biological family, and I believe they were from Florence, Lauderdale Co., AL. My husband never met his biological father, and it took some digging to find out that the name he used was wrong - John McMahon. Evidently there was a rift with his family, and he changed his name (not legally!). Here is that family in case anyone has an idea for me. James Marion MCMAHEN (census records indicate that he was a pastor, born in Florence, AL) married Travis Brook HAMIL, b. TX. 1. Hamil MCMAHEN married Alma LEE 2. Thelma Irene MCMAHEN b. November 27, 1902 in Forney, Kaufman Co., TX married unknown NOLAND - child Robert NOLAND 3. James MCMAHEN (John MCMAHON) b. 1910 AL d. May 28, 1980 Honolulu, HI > This is my husband's biological father. In following them in the census records, they moved around in TX. I found a descendant of Thelma MCMAHEN NOLAND who confirmed the data I knew, but was not interested in finding out more or sharing anything further. This is my first venture into researching in the South; I have spent two years researching in Ohio and CT with the Cox and Welton families, so I am looking forward to a change of pace, and perhaps a Confederate ancestor or two for my children . . . so far, we are only Yanks with a Rev. War Loyalist or two! You can check out all my names at http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/e/l/Claudia-C-Welton/ in the HUGE report. It has an index, and I am glad to share should you find a common ancestor. Thanks, Claudia Cox Welton Colleyville, TX

Thought some of you might find this usefull? http://www.searchpower.com/content/GenealogySearch/ -- Troy McCarley Alabama Unknown CC AlGenweb Unknown County Query Page http://www.rootsweb.com/~alunknow/index.html McCarley Family Association http://www.airnet.net/mccarley/index.html McCarley Family Assoc. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/McCarley Lauderdale County Alabama Mailing List:<mailto:ALLAUDER-L-request@rootsweb.com> Slaton Family Mailing List:<mailto:SLATON-L-request@rootsweb.com> surnames: McCarley, Slaton,Chandler,White,Grisham,Snoddy

My g-grandfather was John Wesley Vaughan born 14 Feb.1849. In talking with some of his grandchildren, they thought he was born in Tenn, but on the 1920 census, Lauderdale Co., he said he was born MS. He was married to Louisa Crumpton. I don't know date or where. they had one child, Abner J. Vaughn born 1 Nov. 1882. Louisa died. When John was 35 years, he married Zora Belle Miles, half-sister of first wife. She was 17 years old. They had six children before her death in 1900. According to a newspaper article I found, John was an early settler of Oakland and a farmer. I think in his later years, he owned a store in Oakland. I would like to find his parents names, siblings and where they were from before coming to Oakland. Oh, by the way, I have found the VAUGHN/VAUGHAN spelled with an A and without. Patricia justpat1@prodigy.net

Hello, I'm new to this list and am wondering if there is anyone researching the Nichols name in Lauderdale County. I just found a book which says that one of my Nichols was born in Lauderdale County. His name was Larry Nichols and his father was John Lee Nichols. John Lee Nichols was in Marion County, AL, sometime after 1840 and appears on the 1850 Marion County census. About the time John Lee Nichols moved with his family to Marion County, 12 other Nichols families moved there, also. The 1850 census shows that some of the children of these Nichols were born in Alabama before 1840. The book, also, mentions that some of these Nichols may have lived at Martins Mill in Wayne County, TN, previous to moving to Marion County. If there is anyone on the list who is researching the Nichols name, I will be happy to share what I have in reference to the Nichols in Marion County. I have records that state that two were War of 1812 soldiers who lived in Sumter District, SC, during that time. If anyone on the list has the 1840 Lauderdale census, I would love to know if there were any Nichols listed. Thanks in advance for any help. Jimmie (Nichols) Meadors

Greetings, I have,for many years, been researching my great great grandfather, NATHAN DAVIS, (1786 - ?) who's son was named LEVI FOWLER DAVIS (1819 - 1888) NATHAN DAVIS was first located by this researcher in Lauderdale County Alabama. NATHAN was there from about 1821 until about 1842,when he moved to Desoto Co. Mississippi. Family legend has NATHAN coming from South Carolina, but I have never been able to locate the place of his birth or who his parents were. I offer the following information in hopes of finding additional information about Nathan Davis. These are assumptions only: Nathan was married to EMILY FOWLER in South Carolina EMILY FOWLER was the child of MARTHA O. FOWLER and her husband LEVI FOWLER. MARTHA O. FOWLER came to Lauderdale County Alabama with her daughter Emily and her son-in-law NATHAN. EMILY FOWLER DAVIS died about 1819 at the birth or complications from the birth of her son LEVI FOWLER DAVIS. Her mother MARTHA FOWLER, and Nathan's 2nd wife, EMILY McCLUSTER (McALLISTER) raised LEVI FOWLER DAVIS LEVI FOWLER DAVIS married NANCY GERMAN in Monroe County Mississippi in 1841. Facts: MARTHA O. FOWLER has a headstone in the WESLEY CHAPLE Methodist church cemetery, in Lauderdale Co. Alabama, which says "MARTHA O. FOWLER, wife of LEVI FOWLER" and her birth date: 6 May 1769 and her death date: 11 July 1841 but there is no headstone for LEVI FOWLER. Also buried in WESLEY CHAPEL cemetery is ELIJAH FOWLER (1811 - 1862) & wife MARY, their son RICHARD D. FOWLER(1848 - 1860), and LEOLA FOWLER (1867 - ?) In the same WESLEY CHAPLE cemetery is a stone for a LEVI COLUMBUS FOWLER (3 August 1841 - 28 February 1935) and MARY E. (1843 - 1920), wife of LEVI COLUMBUS FOWLER. Their children were at least LEOLA E. FOWLER and WILEY F. FOWLER. The age of MARTHA O. FOWLER at her death date would indicate that she was not the mother of LEVI COLUMBUS FOWLER, but the coincidence of the names might indicate a relation. If anyone can offer additional information it would be appreciated. L&S Bob Davis 13117A NW 8th Ave. Vancouver, WA 98685 (360) 574-1624

Does anyone connect to these families? I found these marriage in the "National Banner & Nashville Whig" newspaper in 1831. Cyrene Mason married William A Roffe 04 April 1831 in Lauderdale County, AL. On the same page was a marriage notice for Huldah Mason and Littleberry Mobley on 04 April 1831 in Lauderdale County, AL. Cyrene and Huldah are probably sisters. My direct line is Huldah Mason and Littleberry Mobley. Huldah and Littleberry's first five children were born in Lauderdale Co AL before moving to Marshall Co MS abt 1838. The children are: Lucretia Mobley b 1826 William C Mobley b 1827 Pleasant Marion Mobley b 1832 Mary Ann Mobley b 1833 Charles Washington Mobley b 1835(my gggrandfather) Huldah Mason was b in 1810 in TN and Littleberry Mobley was b in 1806 in NC or SC. Who are the parents of Cyrene and Huldah Mason? Who is the parents of Littleberry Mobley? Who was Littleberry Mobley's first wife? Thanks for your help Linda Risinger Houston, TX

Looking for info on Eastep's in the East Lauderdale County area. Any info or pics of the Eastep's from this area would be appreciated. Two were in the 16th Alabama. A roster or a picture of them in this unit would be great. Thanks, Andreas Eastep

Hi Anna, The records that I posted on the list are from the CD # 3, as I said. No, the records are not infallible....I don't really think any of them are, and I am including in this, census, court, Bible, etc. The ones that are probably the most would be the Bible, so if you have that, I would go with that. As with any piece of information you get you must always search out this information yourself and look for other pieces of information that will verify it or at least help you to make a good guess as to the correct date. Never take any source or reference as the gospel. People make mistakes in transcribing...anything is possible. When at last you have done everything you can to "prove" a piece of information, then maybe, just maybe, you have the correct information. I have found many errors in searching for my ancestors. For instance, I know that my one of my grandfather's names was Bennett Pope Lovelace, but everyone called him Ben. When he married my grandmother, the Laud. Co. Court record of their marriage calls him Benjamin. Now, I know, he didn't give his name as Benjamin, he knew his name was Bennett Pope, so probably the court clerk was someone who knew him and just thought his name was Benjamin, because he was called Ben. Another grandfather, I could never find anything on him. His name was William Ervin LANIER. I finally discovered that he was called Ervin, not William and that in the court records after his death, he is referred to as IRVINE LANIER, not Ervin. In census records he is recorded as William E., and in other records William I. which was sometimes confused as being T. In many people's handwriting the capital I can look like a T. This has caused much confusion. You have to really look at the records and compare them to other records....and not just go on someone's say so. The records that I posted were just some that were printed along with my LOVELACE's...and are what is on the CD. They are a reference...a source of information. I hope this helps you. Nancy Lovelace Gooch

In a message dated 7/28/99 10:47:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, alangley@hiwaay.net writes: > OK, can someone out there tell me how IGI records are obtained?? Are they > thought to be infallible?? > I've found an IGI record reference out there (on the website) to an > ancestral relative's marriage, but in the meantime, I've also found a > reference to another source that completely disputes the IGI records. So > which record should I believe?? Both records are from, what I consider to > be, reputable sources. How do you go about deciding?? > Can someone give me any ideas?? > For now, I'm stuck in that limbo that haunts all genealogists !! > Anna > alangley@hiwaay.net > Anna, I think you alluded to an important distinction in terms. A "source" is very different from a "reference to a source." The best and only way to decide what to believe is to physically obtain both sources/records. By doing that, you will probably be able to tell which reference to the source was (in)correct, but that will then be a moot point. In our family research, if we rely on referring to a reference of a source, it would be like a journalist quoting what someone said that someone else said; I think in court they'd call that heresay. If you can't obtain the actual source, then reporting on it's reference - and stating as much - would be all you could do. And as for the sources themselves, generally the source that is considered to be more accurate is the one that comes closest to the actual date of the event. For example, a birth date from a birth certificate would be considered more reliable than a birth date from a death certificate. In this case, the birth certificate source would certainly be more convincing. Hope this helps. John

OK, can someone out there tell me how IGI records are obtained?? Are they thought to be infallible?? I've found an IGI record reference out there (on the website) to an ancestral relative's marriage, but in the meantime, I've also found a reference to another source that completely disputes the IGI records. So which record should I believe?? Both records are from, what I consider to be, reputable sources. How do you go about deciding?? Can someone give me any ideas?? For now, I'm stuck in that limbo that haunts all genealogists !! Anna alangley@hiwaay.net

Hello List Members, I thought I'd respond to Anna's question about the IGI and send a copy to the list. The IGI gets the information basically from two sources. One, records extracted from vital records and two, members of the LDS church. The extraction records are usually pretty accurate as there were checks and balances in the process. I worked on an extraction program and there were 3 of us who checked the first ones work. In the early submission of records by church members there HAD to be two verifiable sources and two people had to check the verification. NOW things are a little different and too often the documentation is not there. Remember that the IGI is a secondary source and you should always check the primary, i.e., the microfilmed copy of the actual marriage record. If an extraction is the source of the IGI information, it was taken from a microfilmed copy of the actual record. Check those marriage books. I hope this helps. Adele, Visalia, CA