Dear Fellow Researchers: I am researching the family of Simon Kirk b. 1803 in VA and died 1867 in Fayette Co., TX. He was a Justice of the Peace if Lauderdale Co. around 1830. He married Huldah Belsha (Belcher) in Lauderdale Co. in 1836. He had these children prior to marrying Huldah: Benjamin Calvin Kirk b. 1838 in AL William Kirk b. 1830 AL Joseph Marion Kirk b. Oct 10 1832 AL Frances Kirk b. 1835. I am wondering if anyone would know any more about this Simon Kirk and who his first wife might have been. Thanks and Happy New Year! Karen

I found this online, and found it very informative. My thanks to this group for posting this in an effort to learn about our forefathers and foremothers. This information was collected as a part of the research done by the 25th Continental Regiment, a living history group. The regiment re-creates an American unit from 1776 that fought in the American Revolution. HOW THE SOLDIERS COOKED: We drew a day's ration of beef and flour, what was called a pound of each. The flour, perhaps, was not far from its nominal weight, but the beef was, as it always was in such cases, and indeed in all others in the army, not more than three fourths of a pound, and that, at the best, half bone. And how was it cooked? Why as it usually was when we had no cooking utensils with us, - that is, the flour was laid upon a flat stone and scorched on one side, while the beef was broiling on a stick in the fire. This was the common way of cookery when on the marches, and we could get anything to cook, and this was the mode at the time mentioned. After I had satisfied my hunger, I lay down upon the ground and slept... Private Joseph Plumb Martin, 1777 We arrived at Valley Forge in the evening ... I lay here two nights and one day and had not a morsel of anything to eat all the time, save half of a small pumpkin, which I cooked by placing it upon a rock, the skin side uppermost, and making a fire upon it. Private Joseph Plumb Martin, 1777 F[riday] 16 to T[hursday] 29. very Cold indeed / we git sum wheat that is [in] bags below ware we go after wood and burn it wich makith very good Coffe and selling sum of our thing we git sum money & so we have once in a while Sum Caffe. Private Jeremiah Greenman, February, 1776 [At the siege of Yorktown, Sarah Osborne] took her stand just back of the American tents, say about a mile from the town, and busied herself washing, mending, and cooking for the soldiers, in which she was assisted by the other females ... cooked and carried in beef, and bread, and coffee (in a gallon pot) to the soldiers in the entrenchment. Sarah Osborne, 1781 ************* RECIPES OF THE 18th CENTURY AND THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR PERIOD: At home, families in America cooked following the recipes handed down to them, or from English recipe books. The first American cookbook was not published until 1796, but English cookbooks had been re-printed in America before then. Breakfast Recipes: Indian Slapjacks One quart of milk, 1 pint of indian [corn] meal, 4 eggs, 4 spoons of flour, little salt, beat together, baked on griddles, or fry in a dry pan, or baked in a pan which has been rub'd with suet, lard or butter. Amelia Simmons, 1796 To make fried Toasts Chip a manchet [ a round loaf of fine bread] very well, and cut it roundways into toasts; then take cream and eight eggs, season'd with sack, sugar, and nutmeg; and let these toasts steep in it about an hour; then fry them in sweet butter, serve them up with plain melted butter, or with butter, sack and sugar, as you please. Eliza Smith, 1758 Meat Recipes: To broil Stakes When you have a very clear brisk fire, make your gridiron very clean, put some hot coals from the fire into a chafing dish, and place a dish over them, in order to receive your stakes when ready; take rump-stakes, which should be about half an inch thick; after you have thrown over them a little pepper and salt, place them on the gridiron, and do not turn them till that side be done; when you have turned them you will soon perceive a fine gravy laying on the upper part of the stake, which you must carefully preserve by taking the when ready warily from your gridiron, and placing them on the dish: Then covering the dish, send them hot to the table with the cover on. Some before they take the stake from the gridiron, cut into the dish a shalot or two, or a fine onion, and a little vinegar. Eliza Smith, 1758 To mumble Rabbits and Chickens Put into the bellies of your rabbits, or chickens, some parsley, an onion, and the liver; set it over the fire in the stew-pan with as much water mixed with a little salt as will cover them; when they are half boiled take them out, and shred the parsley, liver, and onion; tear the flesh from the bones of the rabbit in small flakes, and put it into the stew-pot again with a very little of the liquor it was boiled in, a pint of white-wine, some gravy, half a pound or more of butter, some grated nutmeg; when tis enough, shake in a little flour, and thicken it with butter. Serve it on snippets [pieces of toasted bread]. Eliza Smith, 1758 To stew a Rump of Beef Season your rump of beef with two nutmegs, some pepper and salt, and lay the fat side downward in your stew-pan; put to it a quarter of a pint of vinegar, a pint of claret, three pints of water, three whole onions stuck with a few cloves, and a bunch of sweet-herbs; cover it close, and let it stew over a gentle fire four or five hours; scum off the fat from the liquor. Lay your meat on sippets, and pour your liquor over it. Garnish your dish with scalded greens. Eliza Smith, 1758 Vegtable Recipes: To stew Cucumbers Pare twelve cucumbers, slice them as for eating, put them to drain, and lay them in a coarse cloth until they are dry; flour them, and fry them brown in butter; then put in some gravy, a little claret, some pepper, cloves, mace, and let them stew a little; them roll a bit of butter in flour, and toss them up; put them under mutton or lamb roasted. Eliza Smith, 1758 To dress Carrots. Scrape them very clean, and when the water boils, put them into your pot or sauce-pan; if they are young spring carrots, they will be boiled in a half an hour, but if large they will require an hour. Take them out, slice them into a plate, and pour over them melted butter. Eliza Smith, 1758 To dress Potatoes Put your potatoes into the sauce-pan with a proper quantity of water; and when they are enough, which may be known by their skins beginning to crack, drain al the water from them, and let them stand close covered up for two or three minutes; then peel them, plate them in a plate, and pour over them a proper quantity of melted butter: Or after you have peeled them, lay them on a gridiron, and, when they are of a fine brown, send them to table. Or you may cut them into slices, fry them in butter,and season them with pepper and salt. Eliza Smith, 1758 Dessert Recipes: Plain Cake. Three quarters of a pound of sugar, 1 pound of butter, and 6 eggs work'd into 1 pound of flour. [Bake in a loaf pan at 325 degrees F. for 75-80 minutes.] Amelia Simmons, 1796 A Nice Indian Pudding. No. 1. 3 pints scalded milk, 7 spoons fine Indian meal, stir well together while hot, let stand till cooled; add 7 eggs, half a pound of raisins, 4 ounces butter, spice and sugar, bake one and half hour. No. 2. 3 pints scalded milk to one pint meal salted; cool, add 2 eggs, 4 ounces butter, sugar or molasses and spice q.s. [quantum sufficit - as much as suffices] it will require two and half hours baking. Amelia Simmons, 1796 Apple Pastries to fry. Pare and quarter apples, and boil them in sugar and water, and a stick of cinnamon, and when tender, put in a little white wine, the juice of a lemon, a piece of fresh butter, and a little ambergrease or orange-flower water; stir all together, and when it is cold put it in a puff-paste and fry them. Eliza Smith, 1758 Puff Paste for Tarts. No. 5. One pound flour, three fourths of a pound of butter, beat well. Amelia Simmons, 1796 http://members.aol.com/Srlohnes/recipe.html Happy Holidays! Jane Shake your family tree and watch the nuts fall!

My thanks to this group for posting this in an effort to learn about our forefathers and foremothers. I hope you learn as much from this information that has been so generously shared by the living history group mentioned, as I have. This information was collected as a part of the research done by the 25th Continental Regiment, a living history group. The regiment re-creates an American unit from 1776 that fought in the American Revolution. THE ISSUE RATION approved by the Continental Congress appears generous. The "General Orders" issued by General George Washington state what was supposed to be issued to the Continental soldier. Subsequent orders and journal entries indicate what was actually received as time went on. In general, the soldiers' diet appears monotonous. Their diet does not appear to meet today's dietary guidelines as depicted in a comparison of the modern "food pyramid": By order of his Excellency General Washington, a Board of General Officers sat yesterday in Cambridge, and unanimously recommended the following Rations to be delivered in the manner hereby directed - Viz: Corn'd Beef and Pork, four days in a week. Salt Fish one day, and fresh Beef two days. As Milk cannot be procured during the Winter Season, the Men are to have one pound and a half of Beef, or eighteen Ounces of Pork pr. day. Half pint of Rice, or pint of Indian Meal pr Week - One Quart of Spruce Beer pr day, or nine Gallons of Molasses to one hundred Men pr week. Six pounds of Candles to one hundred Men pr week, for guards. Six Ounces of Butter, or nine Ounces of Hogs-Lard pr week. Three pints of Pease, or Beans pr man pr week, or Vegetables equivalent, allowing Six Shillings pr Bushel for Beans, or Pease - two and eight pence pr Bushel for Onions - One and four pence pr Bushel for Potatoes and Turnips - One pound of Flour pr man each day - Hard Bread to be dealt out one day in a week, in lieu of Flour. General George Washington, General Orders Headquarters at Cambridge Mass., December 24, 1775. we wenent down the river Sorrel to Shambalee Fort, where we tried to get baked bread (no other provisions to be had hear) Lt. Colonel Jeduthan Baldwin, Journal Entry Fort Chambly, Canada, May 14, 1776. they [the workmen] had only 12 ozs of pork 1 1/2 lb of Flower pr Day Lt. Colonel Jeduthan Baldwin, Journal Entry Mount Independence VT, July 18, 1776. The Weather being so wet and Stormy all Last Night, the Commisary is to Issue one gil of Rum to Every non Commisioned Officer and Soldier now in Camp. [Note: this order repeats frequently throughout the summer and into the fall.] 2nd New Jersey Orderly Book, General Orders Fort Ticonderoga NY, July 19, 1776. As Live Cattle increce, the Commisary will Issue five Days Fresh and two Days Salt a Week. 2nd New Jersey Orderly Book, General Orders Fort Ticonderoga NY, July 26, 1776. The Troops are to Receive 1 lb. Flower Beef or 1 lb. of pork per Man a Day Till further Orders. 2nd New Jersey Orderly Book, General Orders Fort Ticonderoga NY, August 5, 1776. When there is not Beef, the Commisary will Isue a half a Pound of Porke 1 1/2 lb. Flour to each man Per Day til further Orders. 2nd New Jersey Orderly Book, General Orders Fort Ticonderoga NY, September 1, 1776. The Commissary will issue three Sheep to each Regt. and two to the Corps of Artillery tomorrow Morning at 10 o'clock. The Commanding Officers of Regts. will see that the sick weak Soldiers of Regts. are supplyed with this Refreshment. 2nd New Jersey Orderly Book, General Orders Fort Ticonderoga NY, September 27, 1776. Mr. Commissary Avery has orders to send directly from Saratoga one thousand Bushels of Turnips Potatoes, which will be served out to the Troops in due proportion upon their arrival at the Commissary Store. 2nd New Jersey Orderly Book, General Orders FortTiconderoga NY, September 29, 1776. It having been represented to the General that many regiments would at this season choose to lesson their ration of meat and supply it with vegetables if they could be permitted, is concerned for the health of the troops, and desires to gratify them in every reasonable request, induces him to direct that Cols. of such regiments as choose to adopt that plan signify to the Commy. Gen. and in two days afterwards the Quartermasters of such regiments be allowed to draw one quarter part of the usual rations in money to be laid out in vegetables. Orderly Book, General Orders Martin's Regiment - New Jersey Militia, July 22, 1776. ************* The PURCHASE of liquor from suttlers (people who traveled with the army to sell liquor to the soldeirs) and food from markets established in camp or nearby, supplemented the issue diet. Fruits and vegetables as well as liquor were purchased: Pine apples as large as a quart Mug, for 6d [d = penny, s= shilling] each. ... A vessel came in on the 19th loaded with the above. She brought 300 dozen of Pine apples - I went on board her this morning (23d) and chose two out of several Cartloads, for which I gave only 1s/ 5 1/2d - The most beautiful fruit I ever saw, and in flavour much superior to any in England. Lt. Mackenzie (British Army), Royal Welch Fusiliers Upon Arrival in New York City, June 29, 1773. No Person is for the future to presume to sell any Stores, or Liquor to the troops, unless he be first appointed Sutler to some Regiment, by the Colonel or Officer commanding the same... General George Washington, General Orders Headquarters at Cambridge, September 6, 1775. bought 50 lemmons Lt. Colonel Jeduthan Baldwin, Journal Entry Camp at Cambridge, February 15, 1776. No Suttler is to Sell Liquor to a Soldier after Sunset or Suffer them to be about their Huts after that time. 2nd New Jersey Orderly Book, General Orders Camp at Crown Point, July 5, 1776. Various frauds, impositions and abuses being every day committed, by traders, and huksters, coming to this camp, the Quarter Master Gen. and his Assistant are immediately to regulate the prices to be paid for the several commodities brought to sell particularly, garden stuff, venison, cheese, butter and all manner of eatibles. For the future all persons bringing any of the above articles immediately for sale are to carry them to the foot of the glasee of the old fort where the markitt is constantly to be held - Should any person or person be detected monopolising or fore stauling the markitt, they will be punish'd by a Court Martial and have all their goods seiz'd for the sick of the hospital. The markett is to be opened every morning at 8 oclock and be allow'd to continue till Sun Sett. 4th Penn. Battalion Orderly Book, General Orders Ticonderoga, September 25, 1776. The two hundered bushels of onions just brought to the Carrying Place at Lake George are to be one half of them sold at the markett post upon the glacis of the old fort and the other half at the markett place in front of Col. Pattersons Regt. upon Mount Independence. 4th Penn. Battalion Orderly Book, General Orders Fort Ticonderoga NY, September 29, 1776. ************* FORAGING, or gathering food from the surrounding countryside, was another way the soldiers could add variety to their meals. Not everyone wanted soldiers to find food this way: our People are not alowed to tread on the ground scarcely they are not alowed to get orsters out of the Cove one man forbid the soldery catching eales But he got nothing for that But Cryes. Lieutenant Joseph Hodgkins, Letter to His Wife Camp at Long Island NY, May 22, 1776. A Sergant and twelve men to be Draufted from the Main Guard tomorrow to be posted on the South Side of the Lake near McDonald's for the Security of his Property, as he Complains of the Destruction offered to his Peas and Potatoes by the Soildiers. 2nd New Jersey Orderly Book, General Orders Fort Ticonderoga NY, July 29, 1776. Fishing in Battoes being Prejudicial to the men's Health, to the Service, to the Battoes, is positively Prohibited. 2nd New Jersey Orderly Book, General Orders Fort Ticonderoga NY, July 31, 1776. Strayed yesterday from Head Quarters, a Fat Sheep belonging to the General. He has that Opinion of the Soldiers under his Command that they will return Him his sheep whenever they find it. 2nd New Jersey Orderly Book, General Orders Fort Ticonderoga NY, August 16, 1776. Contrary to all good discipline and in dissobeydiance of the most possitive orders some officers and soldiers have presumed to shoot pidgeons and other game in and in about the several incampments. 4th Penn. Battalion Orderly Book, General Orders Fort Ticonderoga NY, October 10, 1776. ************* ITEMS SENT FROM HOME further added to what was issued, bought or foraged: ... I sent a suguer Box By Naty Dodge I wish you could fill it with suguar send it as soon as you can ... I should Be glad of Sum Coffee Lieutenant Joseph Hodgkins, Letter to His Wife Camp at Cambridge, June 20, 1775. These Comes per your scooner Capt. Ingraham with sundry Artikles for the Army I understood per Letter from Colo. Huntington that it was very difficult to Obtain green Sase [sauce] in N York so ordered a Box filled with Betes, Carriots, Puttatoes, and Turnups directed to your Care to be divided between your Self and Brothors in Camp ... have also sent a Box of Choice good Old Cheese . Jabez Huntington, Letter to His Son Addressed to Camp at New York, August 6, 1776. If there is a good Opportunity to send me a small Matter of Honey Tamarinds they will be very acceptable. Colonel Jedediah Huntington (HP/321) Letter to His Father From the Camp at New York, August 19, 1776. Happy Holidays! Jane Foley

You might try the probate records. There are times when guardianship papers are listed in the probate records. Doyleen Routh S. Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Cooper" <stevecooper75@comcast.net> To: <ALLAUDER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 10:58 PM Subject: [ALLAUDER] Howell adoption Hardin County, TN. > Adoption information needed from 1860's or 1870's. > > > > Can anyone help or tell me how I might get help in finding out who were the parents of ALICE BEATRICE HOWELL ? > > In the 1880 Census of Hardin County, Tennessee she is listed as the daughter of D. W. Howell. > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > D. W. Howell self W Male W 50 AL ------- ------- > Alice Howell Dau S Female W 13 AL Keeps House ------- AL > Bob Howell other S Male W 20 TN -------- ------- > > D.W. Howell is David W. Howell. He married Sarah Margaret Williams in 1851 in Lauderdale County, Alabama. Later he moved to Hardin County, Tennessee. She died and he married Sarah Columbia Palmer Graham, widow of James Graham. They later moved to Lauderdale County, Alabama. They died in Lauderdale County, Alabama and are buried at the Florence City Cemetery. > > ALICE BEATRICE HOWELL married JAMES BOYD THOMAS in Lauderdale County, Alabama in 1894. She died in 1908 and she and James are buried in the Florence City Cemetery also, with D.W. Howell and second wife Sarah C. Howell. The obituary in the local paper states that ALICE BEATRICE HOWELL was the adopted daughter of David W. Howell. > > Are there any records in Hardin County, TN. that might show who her birth parents were ? > > > Any one have any ideas ? > > Thanks, > > SteveCooper > > > ==== ALLAUDER Mailing List ==== > Pat M. Mahan Lauderdale County CC and List Manager > http://www.rootsweb.com/~allauder/index.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Adoption information needed from 1860's or 1870's. Can anyone help or tell me how I might get help in finding out who were the parents of ALICE BEATRICE HOWELL ? In the 1880 Census of Hardin County, Tennessee she is listed as the daughter of D. W. Howell. Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace D. W. Howell self W Male W 50 AL Farmer ------- ------- Alice Howell Dau S Female W 13 AL Keeps House ------- AL Bob Howell other S Male W 20 TN Labor -------- ------- D.W. Howell is David W. Howell. He married Sarah Margaret Williams in 1851 in Lauderdale County, Alabama. Later he moved to Hardin County, Tennessee. She died and he married Sarah Columbia Palmer Graham, widow of James Graham. They later moved to Lauderdale County, Alabama. They died in Lauderdale County, Alabama and are buried at the Florence City Cemetery. ALICE BEATRICE HOWELL married JAMES BOYD THOMAS in Lauderdale County, Alabama in 1894. She died in 1908 and she and James are buried in the Florence City Cemetery also, with D.W. Howell and second wife Sarah C. Howell. The obituary in the local paper states that ALICE BEATRICE HOWELL was the adopted daughter of David W. Howell. Are there any records in Hardin County, TN. that might show who her birth parents were ? Any one have any ideas ? Thanks, SteveCooper

This is being forwarded from the Lauderdale Co AL Message boards. If you can help, please respond to those below. Thanks, Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <axel1017@aol.com> To: <ALLAUDER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 12:18 AM Subject: Re: Isaac Newton "Newt" Gresham-1999 Inquiry > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/HS.2ADE/378.2 > > Message Board Post: > > hi patricia, > my name is marilyn how i got to the board at ancestry with your inquriy i couldnt tell you how but i do have a book about the greshams > To All: I am posting an inquiry I made to an e-mail that bounced and am hoping to connect with anyone to see if I am on the right path......I am currently not subscribed to the LAUDERDALE MAIL-LIST, so I would appreciate a private e-mail and if you are inclined, you can post publicly also to get the info OUT THERE!. > > Hi Peggy---I was wondering if anyone ever responded to you inquiry (below) concerning Newt Gresham's place of birth. I believe I have found his family in Lauderdale Co., AL. His father being Henry Gresham (and various spellings) and his mother was Narcissa R. Wilcoxin. It appears this family traveled to Hood Co., TX between 1858-1863 (probably after the Civil War). > After Narcissa Wilcoxin-Gresham died, Henry Gresham married my widowed 2nd grgrmother, interestingly named NARCISSA also (Narcissa Luton-Hall-Gresham). > If you would like to correspond, I am willing to share my info in exchange for anything you are willing to exchange. > Looking forward to hearing from you---Sincerely, > Patricia Walker Lyon > > ill just write one part that i have ...... but apparently virgil gresham who di dthis book didnt know about your relative as she is not mentioned by name but everything else fits > issac newton "newt" gresham son of henry and m narcissa (wilcoxon) gresham b feb 20 1858 lauderdale county ala married 1st sept 11 1880 hood co to mattie king she died very soon afterward married 2nd jan 12 1881 hood co ida may peters daughter of j m and ann elizabeth (colvin) peters b 8 11 1857 va d 3 18 1946 rogers ark he died 4 10 1906 at his home in point , rains co, texas he is buried in cemetery and a memerial marker was placed on his grave by the farmers union of texas his wife was administer of estate dated 1909 rains co texas he became active in farmers alliance in 1881 when he was elected organizer and traveled extensively for it he returned to farming when interest in it subsided in 1897 he and ashley crockett ( gr son of davy crockett) purchased a small newspaper the "graphic truth" he later owned a paper in greenville texas in 1900 he moved to rains co and purchased the "point times" the first chapter of the farmers union was in rains co 1902 the membe! > rs were dr. lee seameter, pres j b morris, vice pres o h rhodes, sec w t cochran, treas newt gresham was general organizer. he is referred to as the fonder of the union in texas > then it lists thier children > lutie bell gresham md robert henry templeton > james ferris gresham md verna may pippin > nellie bly gresham b 2 28 1895 granbury texas md billy walsh she died 6 18 1968 rogers ark > pattie gresham md presley l pippen > > > let me know if this helps marilyn in michigan > > > > > >

My mother is 90 years old, she has an eight grade education from Greene County, Arkansas. Mother says this test is very similar to the test she had to pass in eight grade. Especially the grammar test. Jo Ann Crafton How many of us could graduate from 8th grade? Grammar (Time, one hour) 1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters. 2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no modifications. 3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph. 4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run. 5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case. 6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation. 7. - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.   Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours) 1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic. 2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold? 3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50 cts.bushel, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare? 4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals? 5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton. 6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent. 7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per metre 8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent. 9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per are, the distance around which is 640 rods? 10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.   U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes) 1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided. 2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus. 3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War. 4. Show the territorial growth of the United States. 5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas. 6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion. 7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe? 8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607 1620 1800 1849 1865.   Orthography (Time, one hour) 1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication? 2. What are elementary sounds? How classified? 3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals? 4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.' 5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two exceptions under each rule. 6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each. 7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: Bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound:Card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last. 9. Use the following correctly in sentences, cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays. 10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.   Geography (Time, one hour) 1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend? 2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas? 3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean? 4. Describe the mountains of North America. 5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fermandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco. 6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S. 7. Name all the republics of Europe and give capital of each. 8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude? 9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers. 10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give inclination of the earth.  

----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Foley To: Jane Foley Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: Genealogist's Christmas Eve Subject: GENEALOGIST'S CHRISTMAS EVE A GENEALOGIST'S CHRISTMAS EVE ~Twas the night before Christmas when all through the house Not a creature was stirring, not even my spouse. The dining room table with clutter was spread Stacks of pedigree charts and with letters which said.. "Too bad about the data for which you just wrote It sank in a storm on an ill-fated boat." Stacks of old copies of wills and the such Were proof that my work had become much too much. Our children were nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of sugarplums danced in their heads. And I at my table was ready to drop From work on my album with photos to crop. Christmas was here, and of such was my lot That presents and goodies and toys I'd forgot. Had I not been so busy with my grandparent's wills, I'd not have forgotten to shop for such thrills. While others bought gifts that would bring Christmas cheer; I'd spent time researching those birth dates and years. While I was thus musing about my sad plight, A strange noise on the lawn gave me such a great fright. Away to the window I flew like a flash, Tore open the drapes and then yanked up the sash. When what to my wondering eyes should appear? But an overstuffed sleigh and eight small reindeer. Up to the rooftop the reindeer they flew, With a sleigh full of toys and old Santa Claus, too. And then in a twinkle, I heard on the roof The prancing and pawing of thirty-two hoofs. Our TV antenna was no match for their horns, And look at that roof with those hoof prints adorned! As I drew in my head, slamming it on the sash, Down the cold chimney fell Santa - KER-RASH! "Dear" Santa came down looking like a wreck. Tracking soot on the carpet, (I could wring his short neck!) Spotting my face, good old Santa could see That I had no Christmas spirit, you'd have to agree. He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work And filled all the stockings, (I felt like a jerk)! Here was Santa, who'd brought us such gladness and joy; When I'd been too busy for even one toy! He spied my research on the table all spread "A genealogist!" he cried! (My face burned bright red!) "Tonight I've met many like you," Santa grinned. As he pulled from his sack a large book he had penned. I gazed with amazement - the cover it read "Those Genealogy Lines for which you have pled." "I know what it's like being a genealogy bug," He said as he gave me a great Santa Hug. "While the elves make the sleighful of toys that I carry, I do my research in the North Pole Library! A special treat I am thus able to bring To genealogy folks who just can't find a thing. Now off you must go off to your bed for a rest, I'll clean up the house from this genealogy mess!" As I climbed up the stairs full of gladness and glee, I looked back at Santa who'd brought so much to me. While settling in bed, I heard Santa's clear whistle, To his team, then they rose like the down of a thistle. And I heard him exclaim as he flew out of sight, "Family History is Fun! Merry Christmas! Goodnight!"

It's Christmas time.....but our search for our Alabama ancestors goes on! Please join me and some other Alabama researchers for an all-state Alabama genealogy chat on Monday night: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm 9 pm Eastern; 8 pm Central; 7 pm Mountain; 6 pm Pacific Everyone who is researching in Alabama is welcome to attend. Be sure to have a print out of your family tree, your Alabama genealogy books to share, and any questions you've wanted to ask of other researchers. If you've never been to a chat, this is the one for you! If you need detailed instructions, just send me an email and I'll send them to you. If you'd like to be reminded every week, let me know and I'll send you a reminder. Hope to see you Monday evening for a night of new discoveries and information sharing. May there be many new branches to your family tree this Christmas season! Jean Brandau huntsville2@comcast.net

In a message dated 12/22/2003 5:07:39 AM Central Standard Time, mahan@hiwaay.net writes: Isn't it important to learn all we can about our ancestors, including what might have been happening in their daily life - not just as adults, but as children too? After all, this is what puts some 'meat' on the 'bones' of name, date, place, and event. Has anyone given thought as to how those early folks travelled from the east into north Alabama? My earliest folks came in in 1809. My g-g-grandmother went by stage or horse from Center Star, Lauderdale County, AL to Mount Pleasant, TN in the early 1840s to help a 2nd cousin with his children. His wife had just died and the youngest child was 3 weeks old. How far could a horse or stage travel in a day? Could this trip have been done in one day? If not were there places to stay along the way? Where did they get food? Where can I find the answers? Betty.

> Does anyone on this list have any King ancestors who were in Lauderdale Co., Alabama? > > There were 2 main lines after 1840. One was the Guilford/Gilford Dudley King line which is not mine (searched for connection but haven't found one). The other line was the Catherine King line (mine) who was in the 1850 Lauderdale C., Al. census. Her maiden name is not known nor is the name of her King husband, although some believe it could have been James M. King who is in the 1840 Lauderdale Co., AL. Census, however there is no proof on this. His household in 1840 closely matches that of Catherine King in 1850. Catherine's last child was born in January of 1843, so her husband was around until this time frame. Catherine starts making business transactions around 1845 or so, so I conclude that her husband was gone by this time. In the 1850 Lauderdale Co. census, all her known children are listed in her household with the exception of 1 child already married and living close by and the possibility of another child already married and living nearby. > > Her known children were: > > Alexander King born 1826 North Carolina (married Lydia McDonald in 1850 and living in H.H. of his own in 1850.) > William A. King born 1827 North Carolina married Nancy Jane Yancey > John J. Arnold King born 1830 North Carolina --married Elizabeth Francis Stutts. > Possibly Caroline born circa 1830? married James D. Scaggs/Skaggs. > Stephen Colin King born 1831 Alabama-married Eliza Francis Rideout-migrated to Arkansas. > Emeline King born circa 1835 Alabama married Henry McDonald. > Joseph King born circa 1836 Alabama-nothing else known > George King born cir 1839 Alabama-married Mary Ann Rideout--migrated to Arkansas (Prairie Co. and Monroe Co.) > Luke King born 1843 Alabama married Sarah E. Curry. > > Judy Sanders >

I am looking for the parents of the following Livingston children. William Ancil, Vera, Vaudie, Edna and Marie Livingston. Can anyone see if this family is listed on the 1910 Lauderdale Co., census? William (Ancil) was born August 10, 1901 and Marie Livingston Estes was born March 11, 1904. Vera marries William Finley Mann Vaudie marries ? Umphreys Edna marries ? Copeland Marie marries ? Estes William (Ancil) marries Verda Maye Deaton (my great uncle & aunt) Any information would be helpful. Thank you, Karen

We are 'way off the 'strict' subject of genealogy' or are we? Isn't it important to learn all we can about our ancestors, including what might have been happening in their daily life - not just as adults, but as children too? After all, this is what puts some 'meat' on the 'bones' of name, date, place, and event. Personally, I'm glad to see some activity on the list - especially at this time of the year! As long as we don't get too carried away <grin> I know all of you are very busy getting ready for the jolly old man in the red suit, but I do want to wish each and every one of you a most Joyful Holiday Season. Pat

The problem is it's not believed to be an 8th grade test. It's actually believed to be an exam to become a teacher or something to that effect. So are you going to also take your grandson this website http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/a/1895exam.htm which explains the test? :-) Happy Holidays. Jerry W. Murphy jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com Jerry's Homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jwmurphy/ Rootsweb List Administrator: ALFRANKL-L, TNHARDIN-L, TNWASHIN-L, TNWAYNE-L BRATTON-L, CAVENDER-L, COCHRAN-L, HAFLEY-L, PATTERSON-L, SOWERBY-L Wayne County, Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: http://www.netease.net/wayne Wayne County Computer Club: http://www.netease.net/waccc ----- Original Message ----- From: <Prm1950@aol.com> To: <ALLAUDER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [ALLAUDER] Smokey Valley > Thanks for the answers to the 8th grade test. My youngest grandson is in the > 8th grade and always complaining about the work he has to do. > I am printing this out to take to him for Christmas to show him that he > doesn't have it so bad after all. > I'll bet he will not complain again, at least in front of me about all his > classes. > Thanks again, Patricia R. Miller >

I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but since we're way off topic, and also since it is Christmas <g> consider what the 'experts' have to say about the so called 1895 test: http://www.snopes.com/language/document/1895exam.htm Merry Christmas, test or no test! Dave Johnston Self-appointed family historian/genealogist and archivist

Thanks for the answers to the 8th grade test. My youngest grandson is in the 8th grade and always complaining about the work he has to do. I am printing this out to take to him for Christmas to show him that he doesn't have it so bad after all. I'll bet he will not complain again, at least in front of me about all his classes. Thanks again, Patricia R. Miller

For those who wanted the answers click on below. End of Discussion. Jane Foley Someone has attempted to answer the questions from the 1895 test and you can find those answers at http://www.barefootsworld.net/1895examcomp.html I'm told that there is one error in these answers and that is in the arithmetic section. The answer to question #9 should be 160 acres with a value of $2400.00. I hope that you all did better than I did...my correct answers were mainly in the "History" part. Sincerely, Shirley George Towner Smoky Valley Genealogical Society Salina, KS.

Alice Beatrice Howell married James Boyd Thomas in Lauderdale County, Alabama, March 1, 1894. They are buried at the Florence City Cemetery. James Boyd Thomas , Dec. 6, 1870-- May 12, 1956 Alice Howell, Oct. 20,1868-- Nov. 13, 1908 I need information on either of these persons or their families. Obituary of Alice Beatrice Thomas states that she was the adopted daughter of David W. Howell. She is listed on the 1880 Census of Hardin County, Tennessee as the daughter of D.W. Howell (widowed) and she is listed as 13 years of age, born in Alabama. Thanks for any help. Steve Cooper STEVECOOPER75@COMCAST.NET

Remember when grandparents and great-grandparents stated that they only had an 8th grade education? Well, check this out. Could any of us have passed the 8th grade in 1895? (LOOK CLOSELY... THAT'S EIGHTEEN NINETY FIVE!) This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina, Kansas, USA. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, KS, and reprinted by the Salina Journal. 8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, KS -1895 ******************************** Grammar (Time, one hour) 1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters. 2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications. 3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph. 4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of "lie," "play" and "run." 5. Define case; Illustrate each case. 6. What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation. 7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar. ***************************************** Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours) 1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic. 2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold? 3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts/bushel, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare? 4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals? 5. Find the cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton. 6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent. 7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per metre? 8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent. 9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which is 640 rods? 10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt. ******************************************** U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes) 1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided. 2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus. 3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War. 4. Show the territorial growth of the United States. 5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas. 6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion. 7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn and Howe? 8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865. ******************************************* Orthography (Time, one hour) (WHAT IS THIS ANYHOW?) 1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication? 2. What are elementary sounds? How classified? 3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals 4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.' (HUH?) 5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two exceptions under each rule. 6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each. 7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup. 8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last. 9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays. 10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication. ********************************************* Geography (Time, one hour) 1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend? 2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas? 3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean? 4. Describe the mountains of North America. 5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco. 6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S. 7. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each. 8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude? 9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers. 10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth. ********************************************** Notice that the exam took SIX HOURS to complete. Gives the saying "he only had an 8th grade education" a whole new meaning, doesn't it?!

Hi group, For those of you who are new to the list or net, I have thousands of early Alabama marriages online from over a dozen Alabama counties including Lauderdale. Alabama Marriages Before 1825: http://www.censusdiggins.com/alabama_marriages.html Alabama Census Records: http://www.censusfinder.com/alabama.htm Happy Holidays and Happy Searchin' Brenda Webmaster CensusDiggins.com http://www.censusdiggins.com Home of FREE databases and GenStuff GiveAway.