The descendants of JOHN TILDEN MUSGROVE (1793-1875) and NATHAN THOMPSON (ca. 1775-1850) will meet in Winfield, AL, on Saturday, October 30, 1999 at 11 a.m. at Musgrove Chapel United Methodist Church for sharing of family history. The gathering of these Fayette and Marion County families will be of interest to the following surnames: AYCOCK, ASTON, HARRIS, HOWELL, WEEKS, McDONALD, MUSGROVE, DODSON, THOMPSON, McCOLLUM, MORTON, WEBSTER, EARNEST, SOUTH, COUCH, MORTON, STEWART, BERRYHILL, MOSS and others. All allied family members are invited to attend. We'll be serving South Carolina Chicken Bog for lunch, so bring anything that's good with chicken and rice! Plates, napkins, tea and utensils provided. Come earlier if you'd like to start visiting or help stir the pot. Directions: From Winfield, take Hwy. 43 south towards Fayette. Drive about 5 miles to County Road #147 (Watch for Musgrove Family Reunion sign). Turn right. At the 4-way stop, go straight. At the end of the road, turn left. Musgrove Chapel is about 1/8 miles on the left. Fayette Co. AL listowner MUSGROVE surname listowner THOMPSON surname listowner RootsWeb sponsor Researching: ANDERSON, ASTON, BISHOP, DODSON, HARRIS, HOWELL, LESLIE, McDONALD, MILLIGAN, MORTON, MUSGROVE, OWEN, SMOOT, SOUTH, THOMPSON, and WEBSTER.

The descendants of James and Ann Lockhart, of Union Co., SC will hold their annual Lockhart Reunion on Sunday, October 17, 1999, from 11-5, at the Caledonia Community Center, Caledonia, MS. Please bring two food dishes, plates, forks, drinks, etc. Please let your relatives know about this!! Thanks, Sabra

To All Listmembers of ALLAMAR: R.E.: The Heritage of Lamar County, Alabama Sections A-R (partial R) of the family section were mailed back to the publisher today. We expect the remaining sections of R-Y to be returned to us within a month. Last month we were told that the book was 700 pages long, but that was before some stories had been added back that had been left out. We were informed this month, by our consultant, that our book was on the fast track to be published. They anticipate Christmas for delivery. We appreciate everyone's patience with us. This has been a monumental task for all of us, and it is not something that is quickly done. We have also been informed that upon publication, the cost of the book will increase to $69.95. It is currently $60.40, plus $4.00 shipping. Books may still be ordered from the Heritage of Lamar Co., AL Book Committee, P.O. Box 216, Kennedy, AL 35574. We think we can still get ads and memorials in the back of the book, if anyone wants to place one for their family or deceased loved ones. Some have also utilized this space for their stories that they were not able to get into the main body of the book. Please email me for prices if you are interested. Sabra Sudberry Chair, Heritage of Lamar Co., AL Book Committee

Hi, Looking for ancesters of Palmer Esker Wheeler, born in 1905, Millport,AL. MANY siblings ( Eula, Roy, J.E.,Joshua ,John Eiland, etc.) Parents were William David Wheeler and Jane Tate Wheeler. born 1865-1875? William's parents are David Alexander Wheeler and Plum( nickname?) Wheeler born about1850? I am getting this info off of the back of a turn of the century photo with 24 family members and names on back. There are some Robertsons, Grahams,Roebuck,and Jacksons in the photo, too Many of the Wheelers sang Gospel music, traveled through Tn area and some moved to TX. Any connections? Thanks for looking! Robyn , FL tunesnxs@gate.net

NO!! That is not correct. This question was put to Mr. Bice in the Escambia COunty Heritage Project meetings and he told us that the submitter retained the copyright to their stories.THey can have their story published as many times as they like. Now the book itself cannot be published or reprinted by another company with out permission from the Heritage Project because of the copyright, but each submitter, retains the copyright to their story. If the rules are changing here, I will pull the stories I have submitted to four counties that have not gone into publication and withdraw my support of the project. Lygai D. Cutts CC for Lamar, Escambia & Conecuh Co., ALGENWEB ARCHIVES File Manager At 09:41 AM 9/29/99 -0400, D. Akin wrote: >Sabra and Eric, > >I never signed a release of any sort for the article I submitted to be >copyrighted. A review of Section 101 of the copyright law will show that >this was NOT made for hire. > >Not allowing the information in the Heritage books to be copied is going >against the ideals of many of those writing the articles and researching the >families. The only reason I submitted any article was to share my >information and hope to find others interested in my family. Now I hear that >Heritage owns my story and I can't publish it if I want to??? > >Is the Heritage Book company a for-profit organization? > >I bought several books and know how expensive they are to publish. However, >if the material published was obtained fraudulently, and the submitters were >not informed of the intent; there is a problem. > >A response would be appreciated. >Deborah > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sabra Newell Sudberry <j.ssud@sonet.net> >To: ALLAMAR-L@rootsweb.com <ALLAMAR-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 7:24 PM >Subject: Barbara's column > > >>Dear Mr. Reeves; Mr. Rainwater; and Miss Cox: >> >>Mrs. Carruth asked us to respond to whether we wanted her to continue her >>column in the newspapers. We find this a worthy project, a continuation of >>the project that we began in working on the Heritage of Lamar County book >>committee, which we all did for 2 and a half years, without pay. It would >>have been nice had we been able to receive pay for our efforts, as it was >>very time-consuming, which is understandable on her part in wanting pay. My >>only objection is that I do not think this column should include those >>stories in your paper that have been submitted to the Lamar County Heritage >>Book. This book is in production, and will be copyrighted. I would >>appreciate your honoring our request. >> >>Thank you, >>Sabra Sudberry >>Chair, Lamar County Heritage Book Committee >> >>CC: Attorney, Eric Summerford, Attorney for Lamar Co. Heritage Book >>Committee >> >> >> >> >> > > Lygia Dawkins Cutts Cuttstree@Net1inc.net 881 Weaver Road Brewton, AL 36426

Sabra and Eric, I never signed a release of any sort for the article I submitted to be copyrighted. A review of Section 101 of the copyright law will show that this was NOT made for hire. Not allowing the information in the Heritage books to be copied is going against the ideals of many of those writing the articles and researching the families. The only reason I submitted any article was to share my information and hope to find others interested in my family. Now I hear that Heritage owns my story and I can't publish it if I want to??? Is the Heritage Book company a for-profit organization? I bought several books and know how expensive they are to publish. However, if the material published was obtained fraudulently, and the submitters were not informed of the intent; there is a problem. A response would be appreciated. Deborah -----Original Message----- From: Sabra Newell Sudberry <j.ssud@sonet.net> To: ALLAMAR-L@rootsweb.com <ALLAMAR-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 7:24 PM Subject: Barbara's column >Dear Mr. Reeves; Mr. Rainwater; and Miss Cox: > >Mrs. Carruth asked us to respond to whether we wanted her to continue her >column in the newspapers. We find this a worthy project, a continuation of >the project that we began in working on the Heritage of Lamar County book >committee, which we all did for 2 and a half years, without pay. It would >have been nice had we been able to receive pay for our efforts, as it was >very time-consuming, which is understandable on her part in wanting pay. My >only objection is that I do not think this column should include those >stories in your paper that have been submitted to the Lamar County Heritage >Book. This book is in production, and will be copyrighted. I would >appreciate your honoring our request. > >Thank you, >Sabra Sudberry >Chair, Lamar County Heritage Book Committee > >CC: Attorney, Eric Summerford, Attorney for Lamar Co. Heritage Book >Committee > > > > >

Dear Mr. Reeves; Mr. Rainwater; and Miss Cox: Mrs. Carruth asked us to respond to whether we wanted her to continue her column in the newspapers. We find this a worthy project, a continuation of the project that we began in working on the Heritage of Lamar County book committee, which we all did for 2 and a half years, without pay. It would have been nice had we been able to receive pay for our efforts, as it was very time-consuming, which is understandable on her part in wanting pay. My only objection is that I do not think this column should include those stories in your paper that have been submitted to the Lamar County Heritage Book. This book is in production, and will be copyrighted. I would appreciate your honoring our request. Thank you, Sabra Sudberry Chair, Lamar County Heritage Book Committee CC: Attorney, Eric Summerford, Attorney for Lamar Co. Heritage Book Committee

Hello, I have tried everything I can think of and others have thought of. Now I am going from county to county to try to locate my father and family. Father William Austin Born in Indiana 1927 or 1928. I can get no info from Vital Records because I do not have Birth date Parents names or anything else. This was all that was on my Birth Certificate. Here is all the info I have. My name is Rev. Dennis Keith Austin I am 44 years old my fathers name is William Austin he would be around his early 70's he has a daughter name Twila she would be around 51 to 53 and a son around my age. He had Curly Auburn hair he lived in and around Monterey Park, California. He worked at a gas station. This info is 44 years old. My mothers name is Barbara Ballenger. He was not married at the time he and my mother had a relationship and when she got pregnant he left. I have no other family brothers and sisters except on the Austin side. My mother saw him again a year after I was born and he was married and had a little baby with him. If you could be of some help it would be a Blessing. Please contact me one way or the other. Thank you and have a Blessed weekend. In His Grace, Rev. Dennis Austin 7577 Margate Court #104 Manassas, Virginia 20109 1-800-650-3238 Toll Free cevm@erols.com

If you have enjoyed the "Lamar County Kin" columns that have been in the Lamar Leader for the past 11 weeks and The Lamar Democrat for the past 5 weeks, you should contact the papers and let them know how you feel. Unless readers, such as yourself, respond to the papers and let them know that you want "Lamar County Kin' printed, the column is a thing of the past. I have been writing for free and have asked to be paid. The Democrat is not printing until he hears from his readers. The Lamar Leader hasn't responded to my request. I have been excited about the column and have lots of ideas hopefully I can continue with " Lamar County Kin". Call : Lamar Leader 205 698 8148 The Lamar Democrat 205 695 7029 or email democrat@fayette.net Thanks for your help. Barbara Woolbright Carruth

I'd like to invite you to visit the Obituary Links Page. There are many sources for obituaries, cemetery inscriptions, mortality schedules, death notices, as well as birth, marriage, and anniversary announcements arranged by state and county. The URL is http://www.cribbs.net/ Thanks, Bill Cribbs Cribbs-Krebs-Creps-Kribbs Family History ----- Original Message ----- From: <UnkHiram@aol.com> To: <ALLAMAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 11:08 AM Subject: (no subject) > Hi > > My name is Bill Hocutt, I am a Genealogy Host on AOL for the Alabama Chat > room and I have built an AlabamaSites Web Page. My Page contains links to > Genealogy pages that are Alabama Specific in most cases. If you have a home > page for Alabama Research or you know of a good Alabama Page please send me a > link so I can add it to the page. My only interest is in helping other > Alabama Researchers. The URL for the Page is <A > HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/UncleHiram/AlabamaSites.html">http://www. an > gelfire.com/tx2/UncleHiram/AlabamaSites.html</A> > > There are currently 418 links on the page. > > The surnames I am researching are HOCUTT, HOWCOTT, TRAYWICK, NORRIS, DUNN, > BUNN and DODSON. > > I would also like to invite yall to visit my other sites > > 1) <A > HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/UncleHiram/UncleHiram.html">Adventures in > Genealogy</A> a weekly column about Genealogy with a Humorous outlook > 2) <A > HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/UncleHiram/NOMOCO1.html">Nomocotton</A> a > page with my original fiction on it > 3) <A > HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/UncleHiram/texassites.html">TexasSites</A > > a page of Texas Genealogical sites > 4) <A > HREF="http://www.casino-on-net.com/cgi-bin/FreeComps.pl?A_33_BN">Bio</A> my > Personal Bio page including a photo of my family > > > Thank you for your time. > > Bill Hocutt > >

Hi its me again, Bill Hocutt If I could have one more moment of your time I would like to call your attention to an article I wrote on the subject of Mail List Manners. The url for the article is http//www.angelfire.com/tx2/UncleHiram/manners3.html I am also enclosing a link to the article. <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/UncleHiram/manners3.html">Mail List Manners</A> Again, thank you for your time and thank you for indulging me. Bill Hocutt

Hi My name is Bill Hocutt, I am a Genealogy Host on AOL for the Alabama Chat room and I have built an AlabamaSites Web Page. My Page contains links to Genealogy pages that are Alabama Specific in most cases. If you have a home page for Alabama Research or you know of a good Alabama Page please send me a link so I can add it to the page. My only interest is in helping other Alabama Researchers. The URL for the Page is <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/UncleHiram/AlabamaSites.html">http://www.an gelfire.com/tx2/UncleHiram/AlabamaSites.html</A> There are currently 418 links on the page. The surnames I am researching are HOCUTT, HOWCOTT, TRAYWICK, NORRIS, DUNN, BUNN and DODSON. I would also like to invite yall to visit my other sites 1) <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/UncleHiram/UncleHiram.html">Adventures in Genealogy</A> a weekly column about Genealogy with a Humorous outlook 2) <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/UncleHiram/NOMOCO1.html">Nomocotton</A> a page with my original fiction on it 3) <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/UncleHiram/texassites.html">TexasSites</A> a page of Texas Genealogical sites 4) <A HREF="http://www.casino-on-net.com/cgi-bin/FreeComps.pl?A_33_BN">Bio</A> my Personal Bio page including a photo of my family Thank you for your time. Bill Hocutt

I Thought this was a really good idea can anyone start a page like this for Lamar County -----Original Message----- From: Pat M. Mahan <mahan@hiwaay.net> To: ALLAUDER-L@rootsweb.com <ALLAUDER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 10:51 AM Subject: [ALLAUDER] Lauderdale web page - more >Hi Again! > >"Who Am I" has 2 more pics - Thanks to Donna Risner. > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~allauder/whoami.htm > >Ya'll enjoy! > >Pat > > >==== ALLAUDER Mailing List ==== >Pat M. Mahan >CC Lauderdale Co ALGenWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/~allauder/index.htm >Troy McCarley >CC AlGenweb Unknown County Query Page > http://www.rootsweb.com/~alunknow/index.html >McCarley Family Association > http://www.airnet.net/mccarley/index.html >McCarley Family Assoc. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/McCarley >Lauderdale County Alabama Mailing List- <ALLAUDER-L-request@rootsweb.com> >Slaton Family Mailing List-<SLATON-L-request@rootsweb.com> > >============================== >Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! >

I have no email for Stanley Lower. He called me on the phone. He is in Tupelo, MS, is all I can tell you. I think you can find his phone number through information. Sorry I can't help anymore! Sabra

Sorry folks, I was not aware there was another "Steen" near or in Lamar Co. My mistake!! Sabra

Charlie Alexander was married to my great great aunt, Julia Missouri Lockhart. I think their granddaughter may be on this list. If not, I can try to find her email for you. She has extensive info on the line. Her name is Judy Alexander, and she lives in Winfield. She sent a photo of Charlie and Julia that is going in the heritage book. Someone else wrote the main story on the Thomas Alexander line though. They were in Belk also I believe, as well as Kennedy. You might try calling a friend of mine who did a story on this family, Mary Elmore, 205-553-0703, if you don't want to wait for the book to come out. I can't recall who wrote the other story on Thomas, but I do remember there was another one. Sabra

That should be Steens. It is actually in neighboring Lowndes Co., MS today. Sabra P.S. There is a story on this man in the upcoming Heritage of Lamar Co., AL book.

>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:03:17 -0500 >From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@mail.net1inc.net> >To: <Cuttstree@net1inc.net> >To: <Cuttstree@net1inc.net> >Subject: Returned mail: User unknown >Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > >The original message was received at Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:03:13 -0500 >from ppp25.brewton-5396-01.net1inc.net [209.136.70.25] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ><ALLAMAR@rootsweb.com> > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >... while talking to bl-3.rootsweb.com.: >>>> RCPT To:<ALLAMAR@rootsweb.com> ><<< 550 <ALLAMAR@rootsweb.com>... User unknown >550 <ALLAMAR@rootsweb.com>... User unknown >Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.net1inc.net >Received-From-MTA: DNS; ppp25.brewton-5396-01.net1inc.net >Arrival-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:03:13 -0500 > >Final-Recipient: RFC822; ALLAMAR@rootsweb.com >Action: failed >Status: 5.1.1 >Remote-MTA: DNS; bl-3.rootsweb.com >Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 <ALLAMAR@rootsweb.com>... User unknown >Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:03:17 -0500 >Return-Path: <Cuttstree@net1inc.net> >Received: from Net1 (ppp25.brewton-5396-01.net1inc.net [209.136.70.25]) > by mail.net1inc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA18219; > Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:03:13 -0500 >Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990831134823.008a43a0@mail.net1inc.net> >X-Sender: Cuttstree@mail.net1inc.net >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:48:23 -0500 >To: AustinPA1@aol.com >From: Lygia Cutts <Cuttstree@net1inc.net> >Subject: Re: Walker,John >Cc: ALLAMAR@rootsweb.com >In-Reply-To: <4bb1df83.24ef3d68@aol.com> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Hi All! > >Anyone researching this line? If so please contact Pauline at the addy below! >Thanbks >Lygia > >At 07:23 PM 8/20/99 EDT, AustinPA1@aol.com wrote: >>I am researching the family of John & Henriette Walker. They came from >North >>Caroline and settle in Vernon about 1880. Any information would be greatly >>appreciated. >>Pauline H. Austin >>AustinPA1@aol.com >> >Lygia Dawkins Cutts >Cuttstree@Net1inc.net > >881 Weaver Road >Brewton, AL 36426 > > > > > > Lygia Dawkins Cutts Cuttstree@Net1inc.net 881 Weaver Road Brewton, AL 36426

>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:03:17 -0500 >From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@mail.net1inc.net> >To: <Cuttstree@net1inc.net> >To: <Cuttstree@net1inc.net> >Subject: Returned mail: User unknown >Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > >The original message was received at Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:03:13 -0500 >from ppp25.brewton-5396-01.net1inc.net [209.136.70.25] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ><ALLAMAR@rootsweb.com> > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >... while talking to bl-3.rootsweb.com.: >>>> RCPT To:<ALLAMAR@rootsweb.com> ><<< 550 <ALLAMAR@rootsweb.com>... User unknown >550 <ALLAMAR@rootsweb.com>... User unknown >Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.net1inc.net >Received-From-MTA: DNS; ppp25.brewton-5396-01.net1inc.net >Arrival-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:03:13 -0500 > >Final-Recipient: RFC822; ALLAMAR@rootsweb.com >Action: failed >Status: 5.1.1 >Remote-MTA: DNS; bl-3.rootsweb.com >Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 <ALLAMAR@rootsweb.com>... User unknown >Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:03:17 -0500 >Return-Path: <Cuttstree@net1inc.net> >Received: from Net1 (ppp25.brewton-5396-01.net1inc.net [209.136.70.25]) > by mail.net1inc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA18219; > Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:03:13 -0500 >Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990831134823.008a43a0@mail.net1inc.net> >X-Sender: Cuttstree@mail.net1inc.net >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:48:23 -0500 >To: AustinPA1@aol.com >From: Lygia Cutts <Cuttstree@net1inc.net> >Subject: Re: Walker,John >Cc: ALLAMAR@rootsweb.com >In-Reply-To: <4bb1df83.24ef3d68@aol.com> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Hi All! > >Anyone researching this line? If so please contact Pauline at the addy below! >Thanbks >Lygia > >At 07:23 PM 8/20/99 EDT, AustinPA1@aol.com wrote: >>I am researching the family of John & Henriette Walker. They came from >North >>Caroline and settle in Vernon about 1880. Any information would be greatly >>appreciated. >>Pauline H. Austin >>AustinPA1@aol.com >> >Lygia Dawkins Cutts >Cuttstree@Net1inc.net > >881 Weaver Road >Brewton, AL 36426 > > > > > > Lygia Dawkins Cutts Cuttstree@Net1inc.net 881 Weaver Road Brewton, AL 36426

>X-Fidalgo-Track-MAIL-A: pm3-2-dyn40.skagit.fidalgo.net [209.102.74.55] >X-Fidalgo-Track-MAIL-B: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:54:39 -0700 (PDT) >From: "Richard Byford" <byford@fidalgo.net> >To: <Cuttstree@Net1inc.net> >Subject: byford research >Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:51:33 -0700 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 > > Would you know how I could get a hold of Stanley Lower about his >contribution to the Lamar Co Heritage Book? Thank you Dick Byford >byford@fidalgo.net Hi! I don't have access to the book so maybe one of the committee members can answer this. I don't think the book has come from the publisher yet. Or does anyone on the mailing list know how to contact Stanley Lower? Thanks! Lygia Dawkins Cutts Cuttstree@Net1inc.net 881 Weaver Road Brewton, AL 36426