Sorry everyone..........This should have been a birth date of 16 Sep 1816 not 1806. Jacque, Thank you so much for posting this. I am in the process of trying to prove Thomas BLACK of AR as the same as my 3rd great grandfather, Thomas BLACK b. 16 Sep 1806 in York Co, SC. He married Nancy GLADNEY (probably in Fairfield Co, SC where they are listed on 1850 census) and had 2 daughters, Mary E BLACK (mine who married William T MILLER) and Sarah Jane BLACK (married William Harrison NICHOLS). They moved to Drew Co, AR and listed there on 1860, 1870 and 1880 census and buried in Lincoln Co, AR. Do you (or anyone on the list) have any knowledge of this family? I will gladly exchange info. I have been collecting information on John C and Elizabeth's children in hopes of proving this connection. TIA, Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <JacqueOtts@aol.com> To: <ALLAMAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 7:45 PM Subject: Estate of Elizabeth Black

Jacque, Thank you so much for posting this. I am in the process of trying to prove Thomas BLACK of AR as the same as my 3rd great grandfather, Thomas BLACK b. 16 Sep 1806 in York Co, SC. He married Nancy GLADNEY (probably in Fairfield Co, SC where they are listed on 1850 census) and had 2 daughters, Mary E BLACK (mine who married William T MILLER) and Sarah Jane BLACK (married William Harrison NICHOLS). They moved to Drew Co, AR and listed there on 1860, 1870 and 1880 census and buried in Lincoln Co, AR. Do you (or anyone on the list) have any knowledge of this family? I will gladly exchange info. I have been collecting information on John C and Elizabeth's children in hopes of proving this connection. TIA, Peggy I have the following Census on CD and will do lookups. 1880 LDS printed census (all states) 1850 Census Microfilm Records for AL, AR, LA, MS 1850 Liberty, Montgomery, Polk, Bexar, Comal, Medina Cos, TX (These are NOT indexed, so you will need to know the page #) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peggy HALL CALK pwcalk@tds.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: <JacqueOtts@aol.com> To: <ALLAMAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 7:45 PM Subject: Estate of Elizabeth Black Sorry for this long message but I thought there might be some descendants of Elizabeth Black who might be interested in this information. Jacque Estate of Elizabeth Black Lamar County, Alabama, Order Book 2, p. 318 - 327

Sorry for this long message but I thought there might be some descendants of Elizabeth Black who might be interested in this information. Jacque Estate of Elizabeth Black Lamar County, Alabama, Order Book 2, p. 318 - 327 Below is a transcription of a portion of the papers concerning the settlement of the estate of Elizabeth Black. State of Alabama Sanford County Probate Court, Special Term, March 4th 1876 In the matter of the estate of Elizabeth Black Late of said County Deceased this Day came John E. Graves a Citizen of said County and filed his petition in writing and under oath praying for Letters of Administration on said Estate. When It appearing from Said Petition that the Death of said Deceased had been known for more than 60 Days and no one applying that have the Prefina? Right And there being Real estate belonging to Said Estate which Cannot be Disposed of without Administration and It appearing to the Satisfaction of the Court that Said John E. Graves is a suitable person for Administration It is hereby Ordered by the Court that said John E. Graves Be and he is hereby appointed to the Administration of Said Estate and that Letters of Administration Issue to said John E. Graves upon his qualifying according to Law & giving Bond and Good Security in the sum of four hundred Dollars. It is further Ordered that Said petition be filed and made a matter of Record. Alexander Cobb Judge of Probate The State of Alabama Sanford County Probate Court In the Matter of the estate of Elizabeth Black Late of said County Deceased To Hon Alexander Cobb Judge of Probate for Said County the Petition of the Undersigned John E. Graves an inhabitant of said state Respectfully Represents that Elizabeth Black late a Resident of said County Died on the --- day of August A.D. 1859 and that she Died intestate leaving no Last Will and Testament and that the names ages Residences and Condition of the heirs and Distributees of said Decedent are as follows. Children of Peggy Prater all over 21 years of age names not recollected Resided in S. Carolina Several years ago. Jane Black who is over 21 years of age of sound mind and Resides in Sanford County Alabama. Lucinda Harris who is over 21 years of age of sound mind and Residence Unknown. Thomas Black who is over 21 years of age of sound mind and Resides in Arkansas P. Office not known. Children of John Black Residing in Sanford County Alabama. David Black who is over 21 years of age of sound mind and Resides in State of Texas Gatesville P Office. A. Smith Black who is over 21 years … (text unreadable) … and resides in the state of Arkansas. … (text unreadable) … of sound mind and resides in Sanford County Alabama. Children of John Black to wit. George over 21 years. Robert Mary Solomon Joseph & Katharine all under 21 years of age and reside in Sanford County Ala. Mary Sizemore wife of James Sizemore who is over 21 years of age and Resides in Sanford County Alabama that the Deceased at the time of her Death Left property in Real estate to the value of about two hundred Dollars to be Administered. Your petitioner prays to have Letters of Administration granted to your petitioner and states that he claim to be entitled thereto on the grounds following no one entitled had applied and that the Death of Deceased has been known for more than 60 Days. John E. Graves Sworn to & subscribed before me this 4th day of March A.D. 1876. Alexander Cobb Judge of Probate State of Alabama Sanford County Probate Court Letters of Administration on the estate of Elizabeth Black Deceased are hereby Granted to John E. Graves who has duly qualified and given Bond as such and he is Authorised to Administer Said Estate Dated this 4th day of March 1876. Alexander Cobb Judge of Probate State of Alabama Sanford County Probate Court, March 27th 1876 In the Matter of the Estate of Elizabeth Black Deceased this Day came John E. Graves Admr. Of said estate and filed in this Court an Inventory of the property belonging to said Estate Whereupon It is Ordered by the Court that said Report be Recorded and filed among the papers in the Cause. Alexander Cobb Judge of Probate The State of Alabama Sanford County Probate Court Inventory of the Estate of Elizabeth Black Deceased E ½ of SW ¼ SW ¼ of SE ¼ sec. 22 T 14 R 14. 120 acres N ½ of NE ¼ sec 27 T 14 R 14. 80 acres Total acres 200 Value $150.00 The State of Alabama Sanford County Probate Court, Special Term May 11th 1876 In the matter of the Estate of Elizabeth Black Deceased this day came John E. Graves Admr of said Estate & filed his application in writing & under oath praying for an order & proceedings to sell certain Real Estate in Said petition described of the property of said decedent for the purpose of division among the heirs upon the ground that the same cannot be Equitably divided among the heirs or divisees of said Estate & it appearing from said petition that the only heirs of said deceased are the children of Peggy Prator all over the age of twenty one residence not known. James Black who is over twenty one years of age resides in Sanford County. Lucinda Harris who is over twenty one Residence not known. Thomas Black over twenty one years of age resides in the State of Arkansas P.O. not known. David Black over twenty one years of age resides in Gatesville the State of Texas. A. S. Black over twenty one years of age who resides at Oakflat Arkansas. Joseph Black who is over twenty one years of Age resides in Sanford County Alabama. Mary Sizemore wife of James Sizemore over twenty one years of age resides in Sanford County Ala. Robert Black Mary Black Solimon Black Joseph Black & Catherine all under the age of twenty one resides in Sanford County Alabama. George J. Black who is over the age of twenty resides in Sanford County, Alabama. It is therefore ordered that W. B. ?raylor be apointed Guardian Ad Litem For the said Robert Mary Soliman Joseph & Catharine Black & that the 3rd day of July 1876 be & it is hereby appointed a day for hearing the said Application & the proofs which may be submitted in Support of the Same it is further ordered that due notice of the nature of said application & of the time above set for the hearing thereof be given at least forty days before said day of hearing By publication in the Vernon Pioneer A Newspaper published in said County for all persons in interest to appear & contest said Application if they think proper it is further ordered that James Black Joseph Black Mary Sizemore wife of James Sizemore George J. Black & W. B. ?Traylor Guardian Ad Litem For Robert Mary Soliman Joseph and Catharine have Notice of this proceeding & of the day Set of hearing the Same by citation to be personally Served upon them ten days before the day for Hearing the Same it is further ordered that a copy of said published Notice be forwarded through the post office postage paid addressed to said David Black & A. S. Black to their post-offices being of the only ones whose post office is unknown to the Court within ten days after the first publication thereof as aforesaid. It is further Ordered that said . . . [blurred]. Alexander Cobb Judge of Probate The State of Alabama Sanford County Probate Court To Hon. Alexander Cobb Judge of said Court the undersigned John E. Graves Administrator of the Estate of Elizabeth Black deceased respectfully represents unto your Honor that the Said Elizabeth Black at the time of her Death owned the following Lands situated in the County of Sanford to wit-N ½ of NE ¼ Sec 27 T14 R14 E ½ of SW ¼ SW ¼ of SE ¼ Sec 22 T14, R14 That the heirs of said decedent are the following to wit-Peggy Prator's children who is over twenty one years of age and of sound mind residence not known. James Black who is over twenty one years of age & resides in Sanford County Alabama. Lucinda Harris who is over twenty one . . . [line apparently missing from copy] . . . Black who is over twenty one years of age & of sound mind & resides in the state of Arkansas Post Office not known. David Black who is over twenty one years of age & of Sound Mind resides in the State of Texas & Gatesville P.O. A. S. Black who is over twenty one years of Age resides in Arkansas Oakflat P.O. Joseph Black who is over twenty one years of age & resides in Sanford County Alabama. Robert Black who is under twenty one years of age & of Sound Mind resides in Sanford County Alabama. Mary Black who is under twenty one years of age & of Sound mind resides in Sanford County Alabama. Solimon Black who is under twenty one years of age & of Sound Mind resides in Sanford County Alabama. Joseph Black who is under twenty one years of Age & of Sound Mind resides in Sanford County Alabama. Catharine Black who is under twenty one years of age & of Sound Mind resides in Sanford County Alabama. George J. Black who is over twenty one years of Age of Sound Mind resides in Sanford County Alabama & that the said lands above described cannot be equitably divided among said heirs & that the said lands will have to be sold for division one of said Adults James Black requests that said lands be sold for distribution wherefore your petitioner prays that He be authorized to sell said lands for the purpose of making a division of said Estate Among said Heirs According to the Statute for such Case made & as such proceedings Att__ & decrees may be had & made in the pre____ as may be sufficient to effect Such sale for said purpose according to law & as in duty bound your petitioner will ever pray. John E. Graves Admr. Sworn & Subscribed before me this 11th day of May 1876. Alexander Cobb Judge of Probate State of Alabama Lamar County Probate Court, Special Term January 31st 1878 In the Matter of the estate of Elizabeth Black Late of Said County Deceased this being the Day to which was appointed for the final settlement of the estate of Said Elizabeth Black Deceased Came John E. Graves the Said Administrator And Moves the Court to Make the Same When an examination of the amount heretofore filed in this Court together with the vouchers It appears that said Administrator had Assetts in his hands for the Sale of Land the sum of Two hundred Dollars and that he had expended in and about the Administration and Taxes & Commissions Due him of the Sum of Eighty one Dollars & 15 cts Leaving A Balance in the hands of Said Administrator to be Administered of the Sum of one hundred and Eighteen Dollars & 85 cts to Be Distributed among the following heirs of said Estate to wit To Lawful Heirs of Peggy Prater when known the sum of thirteen Dollars & 20 cts it being their Distributive share of said estate. She being heir at Law of said estate Said Money to be paid to them when known Also pay to Lucinda Harris the Sum of thirteen Dollars & 20 cts It being her Distributive share of said estate to be paid to her on Demand for which __?__ shall issue And that said Admr [pay] Thomas Black the sum of thirteen Dollars & 20 cts It being his Distributive share of said estate for which _?_ execution issue And that said Admr pay to David Black & A.S. Black estate each the sum of thirteen Dollars & 20 cts it being his distibutive share of said estate for which let execution issue. (Receipt filed for this decree) And that said Administrator pay to James Black the Sum of thirteen Dollars & 20 cts it being his Distributive share of said estate for which Let Execution Issue. (Recd this decree in full Jay 31st 1878. Jas (his mark) Black, Attest: Alx Cobb) and that said Admr pay to the Heirs of John Black who was son of Decedent the sum of thirteen Dollars & 20 cts It being there Distributive share of said Estate for which Let Execution issue. (Receipt filed in full in this Decree) And that Said Admr pay to Joseph Black the sum of thirteen Dollars & 20 cts It being his distributive share of said estate for which Let Execution issue (Receipt filed for this Decree) and that said Admr pay to Mary Sizemore wife of J. W. Sizemore & heir of said estate the sum of thirteen Dollars & 20 cts It being her Distributive share. (Receipt filed for the Decree) It is further Ordered by the Court that when said Admr fully pays off & satisfys all the Decrees this day Rendered against him by this Court he is Discharged from further Administraiton or Liabilities about said estate. Alexander Cobb Judge of Probate.

Henry Millard Edney was born 1857, died 1901. Married to Martha Virginia 'Jennie' Lavender born 1856. Millards father was William B Edney born 1799 and was married to Mary Edney, born 1814, died 1891. Martha Virginia 'Jennie' Lavender Edney's father was Johnnie Edgar Lavender born 1826, died 1916 in Lamar County, AL. He was married to Mary McMillan born 1828, died 1920.

I want to apologize to you, if you get doubles. Looking for the burial place of Millard EDNEY, b. 1856, d. 8 May 1877; John N. EDNEY, b. 20 Oct. 1832, d. 8 Mar. 1896, and Louvenia C. EDNEY, b. 16 Aug. 1837, d. 7 Feb. 1916. I 'think' that John and Louvenia were Millard's parents. Possibly buried in Ebenezer Methodist Church Cemetery, near Fernback, Lamar Co., AL. Millard died in Birmingham, Jefferson Co., AL. but is not buried with his wife, Martha Virginia 'Jennie' LAVENDER. Can anyone help me in my search? Thank you, Kay Music lmusic1@bellsouth.net (lower case 'L', music, # one) BERRY, BOUNDS, CONLEY, CROSBY, EDNEY, FEIBELMAN, GRADY, GRAY, GORE, HART, HEYMAN, HOLTON, HUGHES, KNOW/NOE, LAVENDER, LEWIS, McGOVERN, MUSIC/MUSICK, REED/REID, ROBINSON, SMITH, VARNADORE, WILSON, WRIGHT

MILITARY SPRINGS, LAMAR COUNTY, ALABAMA Military Springs Post Office (historical) Sulligent SW Go to: http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form Jmeltonno1@cs.com wrote: > Anyone know exactly where Military Springs was? South of Sulligent, is all I > know. > > Thanks, > Jan > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Anyone know exactly where Military Springs was? South of Sulligent, is all I know. Thanks, Jan

Dear List: Just wanted to let you know that we have been really busy updating and adding to the AlGenWeb Lamar County site! If you haven't visited lately, please check out some of our newest additions: 1. Lamar Co. AL "Most Wanted" page (send us yours!) 2. Lamar Co. Marriages - more being added as soon as we can scan them! 3. Mt. Zion Missionary Baptist Church Cemetery transcription 4. Corrections to the order of the 1870 Sanford/Lamar Co. census images (thanks to Jim Newell). And a bunch of new folks have been added to the Surnames page, too! Be sure to check out the "What's New" page, which will tell you what all else has been added! In order to better manage the site with FrontPage, we had to rename the "main" page, but there is still a link from the old location. Update your favorites & bookmarks to this new main page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~allamar/index.htm or http://www.rootsweb.com/~allamar/ will work, too! Let us know if you find any broken links or outdated email addresses! Thanks! Allison M. Saxman Co-host with Sue Palmer~Elliott of the Lamar Co. AlGenWeb site

Can someone tell me the hours of the courthouse and libraries in Lamar Co.? I'd also like directions to the libraries and an idea of the resources available. Thank you. Jacque

Can someone tell me the hours of the courthouse and libraries in Lamar Co.? I'd also like directions to the libraries and an idea of the resources available. Thank you. Jacque

Does anyone have or know of cemetery transcription records for New Hope Cemetery (near Vernon I think)? If not, does anyone live near there that wouldn't mind taking a look and finding out if Benjamin F. Smith and wife Julia Ann Cribbs Smith are buried there and what the dates are on their gravestones? Thanks, Jan Melton

You are invited to attend open house at the Mary Wallace Cobb Memorial Library located in the Vernon Cityhall Building, in Vernon,Alabama.The Minerva Lollar Art Gallery is sponsoring this event.And we would like for you to come and see the art collection,the genealogical collection and museum collection.The time will be 2-4pm Sunday,August 12,2001.Free admittance. Come and bring some one with you. The Lamar County Genealogical and Historical Society will meet Monday,August 13th at 5pm in the Vernon community Center. Mrs.Shelia Hankins will pesent photos of Vernon back in the 1920's from the late Mrs. Myrtle Hankins Collection.

More on Mrs. Nolen's 100 years added and pictures. If you have already visited the site you will want to revisit. This lady is amazing!!! http://www.fayette.net/carruth/ellie_ester.htm Barbara The Lamar County Images of America Book is here. Rediscover Lamar County's heritage. More than 100 years local history brought to life in over 200 photographs.Copies are $18.99 plus tax if picked up in county or $25.50 if shipped out of the county. Email coco@fayette.net to place your order or visit http://www.fayette.net/carruth/images_of_america_lamar_county.htm

Mrs. Ellie Ester Birmingham Nolen celebrated her 100th birthday August 3, 2001. http://www.fayette.net/carruth/ellie_ester.htm This lady is precious! She had a birthday party yesterday in Sulligent , 215 persons registered!!! Barbara Woolbright Carruth The Lamar County Images of America Book is here. Rediscover Lamar County's heritage. More than 100 years local history brought to life in over 200 photographs.Copies are $18.99 plus tax if picked up in county or $25.50 if shipped out of the county. Email coco@fayette.net to place your order or visit http://www.fayette.net/carruth/images_of_america_lamar_county.htm

From the book "Lamar County Alabama, A History to 1900" by Rose Marie Smith, the Betts beat was west and slightly northwest of Vernon. Unfortunately, Ms. Smith does not give the exact boundaries on the map drawn in her book.

Betts Beat will be in the Lamar County Lake area west of Vernon. I'm not exactly sure but I think it's between or around county hwys 21 and 31. Theresa Jmeltonno1@cs.com wrote: > Does anyone know where Betts Beat was located (from the 1880 soundex) in > Lamar County? > > Thanks, > Jan Melton > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Does anyone know where Betts Beat was located (from the 1880 soundex) in Lamar County? Thanks, Jan Melton

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You are invited to the Monday,August 13th meeting at 5 p.m. at the Vernon Community Center in Vernon,Al. Shelia Hankins will show pictures of the early 1920"s of Vernon that belonged to the late Myrtle Hankins Clearman. Come and bring someone with you.

Dear list: Thanks to all of you who tried to help me - I did have the Sircam virus, have now gotten clean again, and am off in the morning to visit MS & Lamar Co. AL! I'll be thinking of you all and hopefully bring back a pile of new stuff for the Lamar Co. website! Thanks again to all of you! Allison ----- Original Message ----- From: <ALLAMAR-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ALLAMAR-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 5:00 PM Subject: ALLAMAR-D Digest V01 #68