TURNIPSEED, J. D. Marriage Wife: Sarah J. SMITH Marriage Date: 22 Mar 1866 Recorded in: Montgomery, Alabama Source: FHL Number 1492093 Dates: 1864-1874 No listing for a Smith-Fisk or a Turnipseed-Fisk wedding in anything I have. Sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: <RaeSunshin@aol.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? > Do you have old marriages? I have been trying to track down who Sarah > Jane > Norman Smith married after the death of her husband Solomon Clay Smith. > He > died in 1846 in Dekalb County. She appears to have been single until > 1860. > There are swirling rumors that she married either a man named Turnipseed > (no > kidding) or a man named Fisk. > > Any information you might have would be greatly appreciated. > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you, Terry, for this lookup. Well, I'm not sure about this particular Wm. Gilbert and Catherine, because I'm pretty sure her name was Holt. But I'll keep it in mind. It was the right time frame. Sue Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Jackson" <jacksont@otelco.net> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? for Sue > Sue, > I wasn't able to locate a Gilbert / Holt marriage. I wasn't able to locate > a > William Gilbert marriage in Tallapoosa Co. in anything I have. > > This is a William Gilbert to Catherine. I note her surname isn't Holt. The > marriage was in the approximate time frame you mentioned but was across > the > state. > > Probably not yours, but since it's not my family, I didn't want to be the > one to make that call. > > > GILBERT, William Marriage Wife: Catharin J. POYTHRESS > Marriage Date: 24 Apr 1856 Recorded in: Sumter, Alabama > Source: FHL Number 1293884 Dates: 1833-1865 > > > Good luck > Terry Jackson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> > To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 8:47 PM > Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? for Sue > > >> Thanks anyway, Kelly, for the lookup. >> >> Sue Howard >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "K Culpepper" <ednasiris@msn.com> >> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 4:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? for Sue >> >> >>> >>> I can't remember if I answered you- so I'll do it now! >>> I didn't find your man but I don't think Tallapoosa Co in on this CD >>> Sorry I couldn't help, Kelly >>> >>>>From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> >>>>Reply-To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com >>>>To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >>>>Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? >>>>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:08:34 -0400 >>>> >>>>Kelly, I hope I'm not intruding, but I was wondering if you could look >>>>up >>>>a >>>>marriage for me? My great grandfather, William Gilbert (middle initial >>>>may >>>>have been "H") married a second time in Tallapoosa Co., AL (or at least, >>>>I >>>>think it was Tallapoosa) to a woman with the surname of "Holt". Her >>>>given >>>>name might have been Catherine. I think this marriage took place in >>>>about >>>>1852-1855. He had lost his first wife (my great grandmother), Drucilla >>>>Canady Gilbert in 1851. Thanks for any help. >>>> >>>>Sue Howard >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "K Culpepper" <EdnasIris@msn.com> >>>>To: <brenbee007@hughes.net>; <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >>>>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:06 AM >>>>Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? >>>> >>>> >>>> >I have a CD of Alabama marriages - whom are you looking for? >>>> > Kelly >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: brenbee007@hughes.net<mailto:brenbee007@hughes.net> >>>> > To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com<mailto:aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:20 AM >>>> > Subject: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Is there a marriage index for Jefferson COunty? >>>> > Brenda >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------- >>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com> >>>> > with >>>> > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >>>> > of >>>> > the message >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------- >>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hertiage Quest was down last night for clean up. However, it stated an hour. Is anyone able to get on this morning. I can get on just can't bring up any census. Thnks in advance ....

Sue Let me first welcome you to BGS - I feel sure you will enjoy our Pioneer Trails quarterly - btw, pls send us a query so all of the membership can see who you are looking for. Secondly, I need to preface the rest of my response by saying that I am on the Board (Historian) at BGS (Birmingham Genealogical Society) and also administer the Blog (birminghamgenealogy.wordpress.com). Additionally I am a member of the Alabama Genealogical Society (AGS) and am working with them on the Loose Records Indexing Project currently. Ok, now that you know I may have a bias. Both AGS and BGS have great publications. Both societies are working on projects to place more information online for their membership and provide informative publications. The bi-annual seminars held by AGS always have the "best" speakers and topics in my opinion... so if you are ever to make it down Bham/Montgomery way in May or October I highly encourage you to attend. As for other societies, well I guess I need to know what area of Jefferson County you have specific interests? Several cities (Gardendale, Trussville, Hueytown) have historical societies... if you haven't checked out hueytown.org I encourage you to do so (click on "historical") when you get the page. Again, welcome!! Melissa Hogan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:51:13 +0000 From: dustysusie@comcast.net Subject: [ALJEFF] Genealogical Societies, etc. Hi Listers, I have been lurking for some time, and may have posted a query some time ago, but this is the first time I've posted a specific request. With the number of Societies that offer memberships, I'm having a hard time choosing a couple that will give me the most 'bang for my buck.' I would appreciate recommendations for Alabama in general, Jefferson County, and Birmingham specifically. (I have decided to join the Birmingham Genealogical Society, but more suggestions will be appreciated.) I thank everyone in advance. Sue in Quincy, MA ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz

Thanks anyway, Kelly, for the lookup. Sue Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Culpepper" <ednasiris@msn.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? for Sue > > I can't remember if I answered you- so I'll do it now! > I didn't find your man but I don't think Tallapoosa Co in on this CD > Sorry I couldn't help, Kelly > >>From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> >>Reply-To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com >>To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? >>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:08:34 -0400 >> >>Kelly, I hope I'm not intruding, but I was wondering if you could look up >>a >>marriage for me? My great grandfather, William Gilbert (middle initial >>may >>have been "H") married a second time in Tallapoosa Co., AL (or at least, I >>think it was Tallapoosa) to a woman with the surname of "Holt". Her given >>name might have been Catherine. I think this marriage took place in about >>1852-1855. He had lost his first wife (my great grandmother), Drucilla >>Canady Gilbert in 1851. Thanks for any help. >> >>Sue Howard >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "K Culpepper" <EdnasIris@msn.com> >>To: <brenbee007@hughes.net>; <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:06 AM >>Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? >> >> >> >I have a CD of Alabama marriages - whom are you looking for? >> > Kelly >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: brenbee007@hughes.net<mailto:brenbee007@hughes.net> >> > To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com<mailto:aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:20 AM >> > Subject: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? >> > >> > >> > Is there a marriage index for Jefferson COunty? >> > Brenda >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com> >> > with >> > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> > of >> > the message >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue, I wasn't able to locate a Gilbert / Holt marriage. I wasn't able to locate a William Gilbert marriage in Tallapoosa Co. in anything I have. This is a William Gilbert to Catherine. I note her surname isn't Holt. The marriage was in the approximate time frame you mentioned but was across the state. Probably not yours, but since it's not my family, I didn't want to be the one to make that call. GILBERT, William Marriage Wife: Catharin J. POYTHRESS Marriage Date: 24 Apr 1856 Recorded in: Sumter, Alabama Source: FHL Number 1293884 Dates: 1833-1865 Good luck Terry Jackson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? for Sue > Thanks anyway, Kelly, for the lookup. > > Sue Howard > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "K Culpepper" <ednasiris@msn.com> > To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? for Sue > > >> >> I can't remember if I answered you- so I'll do it now! >> I didn't find your man but I don't think Tallapoosa Co in on this CD >> Sorry I couldn't help, Kelly >> >>>From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> >>>Reply-To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com >>>To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >>>Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? >>>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:08:34 -0400 >>> >>>Kelly, I hope I'm not intruding, but I was wondering if you could look up >>>a >>>marriage for me? My great grandfather, William Gilbert (middle initial >>>may >>>have been "H") married a second time in Tallapoosa Co., AL (or at least, >>>I >>>think it was Tallapoosa) to a woman with the surname of "Holt". Her >>>given >>>name might have been Catherine. I think this marriage took place in >>>about >>>1852-1855. He had lost his first wife (my great grandmother), Drucilla >>>Canady Gilbert in 1851. Thanks for any help. >>> >>>Sue Howard >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "K Culpepper" <EdnasIris@msn.com> >>>To: <brenbee007@hughes.net>; <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:06 AM >>>Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? >>> >>> >>> >I have a CD of Alabama marriages - whom are you looking for? >>> > Kelly >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: brenbee007@hughes.net<mailto:brenbee007@hughes.net> >>> > To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com<mailto:aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >>> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:20 AM >>> > Subject: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? >>> > >>> > >>> > Is there a marriage index for Jefferson COunty? >>> > Brenda >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com> >>> > with >>> > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >>> > of >>> > the message >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I can't remember if I answered you- so I'll do it now! I didn't find your man but I don't think Tallapoosa Co in on this CD Sorry I couldn't help, Kelly >From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> >Reply-To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com >To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? >Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:08:34 -0400 > >Kelly, I hope I'm not intruding, but I was wondering if you could look up a >marriage for me? My great grandfather, William Gilbert (middle initial may >have been "H") married a second time in Tallapoosa Co., AL (or at least, I >think it was Tallapoosa) to a woman with the surname of "Holt". Her given >name might have been Catherine. I think this marriage took place in about >1852-1855. He had lost his first wife (my great grandmother), Drucilla >Canady Gilbert in 1851. Thanks for any help. > >Sue Howard > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "K Culpepper" <EdnasIris@msn.com> >To: <brenbee007@hughes.net>; <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:06 AM >Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? > > > >I have a CD of Alabama marriages - whom are you looking for? > > Kelly > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: brenbee007@hughes.net<mailto:brenbee007@hughes.net> > > To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com<mailto:aljeffer@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:20 AM > > Subject: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? > > > > > > Is there a marriage index for Jefferson COunty? > > Brenda > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com> with > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, I have been lurking for some time, and may have posted a query some time ago, but this is the first time I've posted a specific request. With the number of Societies that offer memberships, I'm having a hard time choosing a couple that will give me the most 'bang for my buck.' I would appreciate recommendations for Alabama in general, Jefferson County, and Birmingham specifically. (I have decided to join the Birmingham Genealogical Society, but more suggestions will be appreciated.) I thank everyone in advance. Sue in Quincy, MA

To all those that want look-ups from what I have on this cemetery - I need to let you know this came to me sent by a lady, who copied them from the B'ham Library "Some Inscriptions from Al Cemeteries" Vol a 1-298 - F332.J4 S66 1938 V.1a - she needs any credit given for doing these copies for me. delilah evans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:35 PM Subject: [ALJEFF] Bass Cemetery |I have some listings for BASS CEMETERY in Jefferson County. | delilah | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

Frieda, I replied to this email before I read the other one you sent about the DNA results. Someday, maybe I will learn to read all email before starting to answer them. Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frieda" <fjgb@sbcglobal.net> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? > Thanks loads Melba. Glad to hear that. I don't think that I went on it > while in SLC FHC, We have a Library not far from here. > > Did you get the message about Alexender Glenn is a relative but most > likely > a Brother or Uncle. > > Hugs, > Frieda

No, I didn't have a message about Alexander Glenn. Where did it come from and what did it say? I did get your message about the DNA results report. I noticed that his numbers match some on the GLENN DNA chart. Maybe that could give us some clues. Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frieda" <fjgb@sbcglobal.net> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? > Thanks loads Melba. Glad to hear that. I don't think that I went on it > while in SLC FHC, We have a Library not far from here. > > Did you get the message about Alexender Glenn is a relative but most > likely > a Brother or Uncle. > > Hugs, > Frieda

Marriage Record book for 1845-1852 has been missing for many, many years. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frieda" <fjgb@sbcglobal.net> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? > Melba is there a Marriage index for Blount Co., available to you. > Somewhere > in the 1840/50s my hopefully GG grandmother Elizabeth McDonald Married > Benjamin Jasper Amerson. She would have been Elizabeth McDonald but more > likely Elizabeth Walker???? We know that her sister one sister married > James Hanks Walker (has the same DNA as my Amos Young) the other sister > married William Jackson Walker believed to be James Hanks Walker's > brother. > If Amos is Elizabeth's child she would have been married to the Walker > before 1839. Elizabeth was a Amerson somewhere before 1849 Blount Co > where > Elizabeth and Benjamin sign some land papers. There were several other > Walker's on the 1830/1840 census in Blount Co. > Hugs, > Frieda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Melba Clark" <melbaclark@bellsouth.net> > To: <brenbee007@hughes.net>; <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? > > >> There is a marriage index for Jefferson Co., AL for 1818-1940 in two >> ledgers >> [one alphabatized by males, one by females] for whites and some for >> colored. >> Then there are smaller indexes for latter years. All of these are at the >> courthouse in Birmingham. The LDS has the 1818-1940 on microfilm which >> can be ordered for a small fee and read at their family history libraries >> in >> their churches. >> >> There are a few online indexes for the very early years. >> >> Hope this helps, >> Melba >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <brenbee007@hughes.net> >> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:20 AM >> Subject: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? >> >> >>> Is there a marriage index for Jefferson COunty? >>> Brenda >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The cemetery is on the left as you are coming from Birmingham. It is before you get to the downtown Trussville area. Ken Glass ----- Original Message ----- From: "PEGGYSUE O'Shields Gaddis" <PEGGYSOGADDIS@bham.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Bass Cemetery and McCombs $ > Is this the Cemetery going into Trussville from Birmingham or the one in > the downtown part of Trussville? > > Peggy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "houseofglass" <houseofglass@bellsouth.net> > To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:07 AM > Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Bass Cemetery and McCombs $ > > >> Epsey and her husband are buried at Mt. Nebo Cemetery on US 11 in >> Trussville. >> >> Ken Glass >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <ednasiris@msn.com> >> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:26 AM >> Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Bass Cemetery and McCombs $ >> >> >> Hello Delilah - hope you are feeling better! >> >> Are there any Ratliff or Perry surnames in the Bass listing? >> >> Also looking for Epsy Glass Franklins burial, as well as, >> Charlie Donaldson (spelled many different ways) he married Vinna Franklin >> before she remarried a Ratliff. >> >> For the list - Does anyone have a college child that would be willing to >> take photos of the Ratliff surnames >> that are buried in McCombs cemetery. I would be willing to pay! >> >> Have a great day - Kelly Culpepper in (fixin to be stormy) Texas >> ----- Original Message ----- >> Wrom: HSCRTNHGSWZIDREXCAXZOWCONEUQZAAFXISHJEXXIMQZU >> To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com<mailto:aljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 5:35 PM >> Subject: [ALJEFF] Bass Cemetery >> >> >> I have some listings for BASS CEMETERY in Jefferson County. >> delilah >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com> with >> the >> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Brenda, Jefferson County, Alabama Marriages 1815-1899: http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Ealjeffer/Marriages.htm OR (same page, different address): http://www.rootsweb.com/~aljeffer/Marriages.htm Jefferson County Vital Records: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/al/jefferson/vitals.htm Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net> brenbee007@hughes.net wrote: > Is there a marriage index for Jefferson COunty? > Brenda

There is a marriage index for Jefferson Co., AL for 1818-1940 in two ledgers [one alphabatized by males, one by females] for whites and some for colored. Then there are smaller indexes for latter years. All of these are at the courthouse in Birmingham. The LDS has the 1818-1940 on microfilm which can be ordered for a small fee and read at their family history libraries in their churches. There are a few online indexes for the very early years. Hope this helps, Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: <brenbee007@hughes.net> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:20 AM Subject: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? > Is there a marriage index for Jefferson COunty? > Brenda

Melba is there a Marriage index for Blount Co., available to you. Somewhere in the 1840/50s my hopefully GG grandmother Elizabeth McDonald Married Benjamin Jasper Amerson. She would have been Elizabeth McDonald but more likely Elizabeth Walker???? We know that her sister one sister married James Hanks Walker (has the same DNA as my Amos Young) the other sister married William Jackson Walker believed to be James Hanks Walker's brother. If Amos is Elizabeth's child she would have been married to the Walker before 1839. Elizabeth was a Amerson somewhere before 1849 Blount Co where Elizabeth and Benjamin sign some land papers. There were several other Walker's on the 1830/1840 census in Blount Co. Hugs, Frieda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melba Clark" <melbaclark@bellsouth.net> To: <brenbee007@hughes.net>; <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? > There is a marriage index for Jefferson Co., AL for 1818-1940 in two > ledgers > [one alphabatized by males, one by females] for whites and some for > colored. > Then there are smaller indexes for latter years. All of these are at the > courthouse in Birmingham. The LDS has the 1818-1940 on microfilm which > can be ordered for a small fee and read at their family history libraries > in > their churches. > > There are a few online indexes for the very early years. > > Hope this helps, > Melba > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <brenbee007@hughes.net> > To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:20 AM > Subject: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? > > >> Is there a marriage index for Jefferson COunty? >> Brenda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Ms. Howard et al., I forgot an important reference: John Witherspoon DuBose, Jefferson County and Birmingham Alabama Historical and Biographical 1887: Page 54: "After the year 1815, which was about the time of the first settlement of white persons in Jones Valley . . . The first settlers . . . Near the same time a colony from Rutherford County, Tenn., settled at the place now known as Woodlawn, a suburb of the new city. This party was composed of Williamson Hawkins, Thomas Barton, William Cowden, James Cunningham, probably Jonathan York [Barton married Susan York] and others . . . . " Bill Erwin

Okay, this is what I'm really interested in: The possibility that my 3rd great grandmother was a Cunningham because she and my 3rd great grandfather, Duncan Johnson/ston, named one of their sons George Cunningham Johnson. Her given name was Ann or Anna according to one source of information, but we don't know her maiden name. I would be willing to bet that it was Cunningham. Of course, I might very well be wrong on that one! Duncan Johnson came to Jefferson Co. from Tennessee also, just like James Cunningham, but I don't know what county or town. He was in Alabama by 1816, I believe, as he is listed on the tax list for Monroe Co., which I understand included most counties in Alabama back then. He was in that part of Jefferson Co. which was Blount at the time, by 1818/19 and was a Justice of the Peace. All of Duncan and Ann's children were born in Tennessee - my 2nd great grandfather - Randolph Johnson - was born in TN in 1800, so I'm thinking that Duncan Johnson was probably born about 1770-1775, thereabouts, and was about 25 when Randolph was born in 1800. I also am trying desperately to find out WHERE in TN they came from, so if I knew where in TN James Cunningham came from, that might be helpful. Another brick wall for me, of course, is Randolph's wife, Elizabeth Ashby, as far as who her parents/siblings/etc. were. She was supposedly born in North Carolina in 1799/1800, but that's all I know. She witnessed Duncan Johnson's will in Jefferson Co. in 1823, and a few months later, she and Randolph married. They lived in the Hueytown area of Jefferson Co., but I don't know that Duncan, the father, lived there or not. You see what I'm up against, right - like everybody else in the world, working on genealogy!! Thanks for all the information you have sent to me, and if you can come up with where James Cunningham came from in Tennessee, that would probably be most helpful! Sue (Johnson) Howard (Randolph and Elizabeth lived in Jefferson until around 1844/45 and they moved to Pontotoc Co., Mississippi. They were members of the Mud Creek Baptist Church and I believe they lived very close to that church. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: [ALJEFF] Bass Cemetery - Cunningham Family > Ms. Sue Howard > > August 16, 2007 > > Dear Ms. Howard, > > Yesterday I wrote several paragraphs relative to James Cunningham & > family, > clicked on "Send," but really on I know not what, and my nice message went > "Poof." Trying to get it back, I messed up e-mail for several hours that > fortunately corrected itself. I am better about settlement times than > about > mechanics. I moved to Wordpad & "Save." > > Since you are interested in the Bass Cemetery - and Basses were very early > settlers - I suspect that you may well be involved with the pioneer > Cunninghams. Furthermore, the 1850 census of Jefferson County contains > only > one related small clump of Cunninghams, James' family. James Cunningham > was > a well-remembered settler in statehood times who appears in various > publications. These Cunninghams settled first on what is now Cunningham > Creek not so far west of Pinson right close to a big nest of my ancestral > families. I know the creek, as my brother attended Scout camp on it for > some > years. A pretty area, at least then. > > Among the sources about Cunningham is Mary Gordon Duffee in her Sketches > of > Alabama (University of Alabama Press, 1970). This published version is a > much edited, much reduced version of the transcript available in the > Tutwiler Collection, BPL, from which I made copious notes in the 1950s. It > should still be there, probably, I guess, not one of the volumes put in > the > dumpster over some weeks or more (witnessed & photographed at the time). I > vaguely recall asking a friend to check, and it was still there. I was > even > able to get physical descriptions of some family members in this much > amplified version. It is a typescript of Miss Duffee's articles in > Birmingham's Weekly Iron Age, 1885-1887. The Duffees lived in Tuscaloosa. > Each summer they progressed up the Huntsville Road (now HWY. 79) very > close > to Cunningham Creek to Blount Springs where they operated a "watering > place." She knew some of these folk and heard about others. > >>From Sketches in Alabama: Page 39. " The neighborhood of Ruhama [now East > Lake/Woodlawn] lay further northeast. Soon after the Creek Indian Wars > were > settled, Thomas Barton {my great-great-great-grandfather], Williamson > Hawkins, Old Father Bayliss, and James Cunningham moved their families, > horses, cows, and sheep to Ruhama. Here they built a substantial > blockhouse > for security against the few roving bands of Indians who still remained > and > hunted in the section. They pitched their tents and cleared the fields > nearby. After the overthrow of Indian domination, these pioneers were able > to locate their homes widely apart, and their blockhouse became a Baptist > church {Ruhama Baptist, founded 1819, closed recently] and school." > > Page 49: "Near Grimes Spring in the Hagood's Crossroads [now Pinson] > neighborhood we passed the ruins of the home and mill of James Cunningham > on > the creek named for him. Born in Ireland [1850 census gives S. C from > which > Barton came via Tennessee later], he immigrated to Tennessee and from that > state volunteered to fight with Jackson [as did Barton & others] against > the > Indians. Later he explored Jones Valley and settled at this wild and > secluded spot amid the hills. This truehearted old soldier brought with > him > his religion as well as his household goods, and in his cabin home by the > roar of the waterfall was preached in 1816 the first sermon ever delivered > in the valley. The minister on this notable occasion was the Reverend > Ebenezer Hearn, whose name and labors glow brightly in the history of > Methodism." This church was later moved up on the Huntsville Road. It was > called Smith's Chapel. It lasted to about 1900. Manuscript quarterly > conference minutes survive for 1842-1850s. The presiding minister at an > 1842 > quarterly conference was the renowned Reverend Eugene Vidot Levert, son of > a > surgeon in French Admiral deGrasse's fleet at Yorktown. A number of locals > were named after him including my Grandfather Erwin. Smith's Chapel, like > Ruhama Baptist, was founded in territorial days. > > Page 53: "Soldiers under Jackson who later came to Jones Valley were > William > Perkins, Thomas and John Barton, Jonathan Simmons, Draper Revis, Benjamin > Tarrant [his family cemetery just north of downtown Tarrant] John Hanby, > Robert Baird, and James Cunningham." > > Page 87n: " West [Anson West in his history of Methodism in Alabama] > states > that at Cunningham's as early as 1818 the first sermon was preached, and > the > first log church was built in 1819." > > Look at Historic Alabama Maps (ask thusly on Google or whatever). There > you > will see John LaTourrette's fabulous map of 1837. On the Huntsville Road > northeast of Elyton (just above the hole in the map) you will see marked > the > residence of settler George Nash, my ancestor. Nearby was Smith's Chapel. > Closer was the settler Nash/Greene Cemetery founded by Mr. Nash on > property > he patented in 1823. I mention this, because, unless the Cunninghams > buried > at home, they likely are in unmarked graves in Greene Cemetery where the > settler families from Greene's (now Tarrant) to Hagood's Crossroads (now > Pinson) buried during 1820s-1880s including their slaves who occupy about > one-third of the cemetery. Mr. Nash and sons moved westward in the late > 1830s, and Robert Hardy Greene bought this property. > > Do look at Mellish's 1818 map with its inscription written on Jones's > Valley. > > Let me know if these Cunninghams are yours. > > Enjoy! > > Bill Erwin > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks loads Melba. Glad to hear that. I don't think that I went on it while in SLC FHC, We have a Library not far from here. Did you get the message about Alexender Glenn is a relative but most likely a Brother or Uncle. Hugs, Frieda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melba Clark" <melbaclark@bellsouth.net> To: <brenbee007@hughes.net>; <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? > There is a marriage index for Jefferson Co., AL for 1818-1940 in two > ledgers > [one alphabatized by males, one by females] for whites and some for > colored. > Then there are smaller indexes for latter years. All of these are at the > courthouse in Birmingham. The LDS has the 1818-1940 on microfilm which > can be ordered for a small fee and read at their family history libraries > in > their churches. > > There are a few online indexes for the very early years. > > Hope this helps, > Melba > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <brenbee007@hughes.net> > To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:20 AM > Subject: [ALJEFF] Marriage index? > > >> Is there a marriage index for Jefferson COunty? >> Brenda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ms. Sue Howard August 16, 2007 Dear Ms. Howard, Yesterday I wrote several paragraphs relative to James Cunningham & family, clicked on "Send," but really on I know not what, and my nice message went "Poof." Trying to get it back, I messed up e-mail for several hours that fortunately corrected itself. I am better about settlement times than about mechanics. I moved to Wordpad & "Save." Since you are interested in the Bass Cemetery - and Basses were very early settlers - I suspect that you may well be involved with the pioneer Cunninghams. Furthermore, the 1850 census of Jefferson County contains only one related small clump of Cunninghams, James' family. James Cunningham was a well-remembered settler in statehood times who appears in various publications. These Cunninghams settled first on what is now Cunningham Creek not so far west of Pinson right close to a big nest of my ancestral families. I know the creek, as my brother attended Scout camp on it for some years. A pretty area, at least then. Among the sources about Cunningham is Mary Gordon Duffee in her Sketches of Alabama (University of Alabama Press, 1970). This published version is a much edited, much reduced version of the transcript available in the Tutwiler Collection, BPL, from which I made copious notes in the 1950s. It should still be there, probably, I guess, not one of the volumes put in the dumpster over some weeks or more (witnessed & photographed at the time). I vaguely recall asking a friend to check, and it was still there. I was even able to get physical descriptions of some family members in this much amplified version. It is a typescript of Miss Duffee's articles in Birmingham's Weekly Iron Age, 1885-1887. The Duffees lived in Tuscaloosa. Each summer they progressed up the Huntsville Road (now HWY. 79) very close to Cunningham Creek to Blount Springs where they operated a "watering place." She knew some of these folk and heard about others. >From Sketches in Alabama: Page 39. " The neighborhood of Ruhama [now East Lake/Woodlawn] lay further northeast. Soon after the Creek Indian Wars were settled, Thomas Barton {my great-great-great-grandfather], Williamson Hawkins, Old Father Bayliss, and James Cunningham moved their families, horses, cows, and sheep to Ruhama. Here they built a substantial blockhouse for security against the few roving bands of Indians who still remained and hunted in the section. They pitched their tents and cleared the fields nearby. After the overthrow of Indian domination, these pioneers were able to locate their homes widely apart, and their blockhouse became a Baptist church {Ruhama Baptist, founded 1819, closed recently] and school." Page 49: "Near Grimes Spring in the Hagood's Crossroads [now Pinson] neighborhood we passed the ruins of the home and mill of James Cunningham on the creek named for him. Born in Ireland [1850 census gives S. C from which Barton came via Tennessee later], he immigrated to Tennessee and from that state volunteered to fight with Jackson [as did Barton & others] against the Indians. Later he explored Jones Valley and settled at this wild and secluded spot amid the hills. This truehearted old soldier brought with him his religion as well as his household goods, and in his cabin home by the roar of the waterfall was preached in 1816 the first sermon ever delivered in the valley. The minister on this notable occasion was the Reverend Ebenezer Hearn, whose name and labors glow brightly in the history of Methodism." This church was later moved up on the Huntsville Road. It was called Smith's Chapel. It lasted to about 1900. Manuscript quarterly conference minutes survive for 1842-1850s. The presiding minister at an 1842 quarterly conference was the renowned Reverend Eugene Vidot Levert, son of a surgeon in French Admiral deGrasse's fleet at Yorktown. A number of locals were named after him including my Grandfather Erwin. Smith's Chapel, like Ruhama Baptist, was founded in territorial days. Page 53: "Soldiers under Jackson who later came to Jones Valley were William Perkins, Thomas and John Barton, Jonathan Simmons, Draper Revis, Benjamin Tarrant [his family cemetery just north of downtown Tarrant] John Hanby, Robert Baird, and James Cunningham." Page 87n: " West [Anson West in his history of Methodism in Alabama] states that at Cunningham's as early as 1818 the first sermon was preached, and the first log church was built in 1819." Look at Historic Alabama Maps (ask thusly on Google or whatever). There you will see John LaTourrette's fabulous map of 1837. On the Huntsville Road northeast of Elyton (just above the hole in the map) you will see marked the residence of settler George Nash, my ancestor. Nearby was Smith's Chapel. Closer was the settler Nash/Greene Cemetery founded by Mr. Nash on property he patented in 1823. I mention this, because, unless the Cunninghams buried at home, they likely are in unmarked graves in Greene Cemetery where the settler families from Greene's (now Tarrant) to Hagood's Crossroads (now Pinson) buried during 1820s-1880s including their slaves who occupy about one-third of the cemetery. Mr. Nash and sons moved westward in the late 1830s, and Robert Hardy Greene bought this property. Do look at Mellish's 1818 map with its inscription written on Jones's Valley. Let me know if these Cunninghams are yours. Enjoy! Bill Erwin