I have subscribed to the list from my new email on my home computer and this computer is where I have access to any of my genealogy materials. finch64@aol.com is my work email and I have no genealogy materials there. Barry Jernigan College Grove, TN

I am looking for James L. Franklin. I believe he is a Grand son or at least a relative of Thomas Franklin Sr and Mary Clark who arrived in Jefferson Co., sometime around the 1820's I would appreciate hearing from you If you have information about Thomas Sr. and Mary Franklin Clark and family Thomas Franklin Sr b. abt 1780 died abt 1826 lived in Camden District Chester Co., South Carolina Went to Hopkins Co., Tennessee and then to Jefferson Co., Alabama Thank you Frieda Glenn Bennett Clark, Franklin, Glenn, Moore

GREAT! I saw a bunch of Montgomerys and Crocketts in Rutherford County. Bill -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of FINCH64@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:37 PM To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Sources Bill Have you communicated with BA in GA? X2BAYERS@southernco.com He also has Montgomery roots and mentions a connection to Davy Crockett and the early settlement of Jones Valley. I have found some of these connections for him in my North Carolina wills reference books. You might cross reference your notes with him. Let me know if y'all make any further connections and I might be able to get some collective information for you. Barry Jernigan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill Have you communicated with BA in GA? X2BAYERS@southernco.com He also has Montgomery roots and mentions a connection to Davy Crockett and the early settlement of Jones Valley. I have found some of these connections for him in my North Carolina wills reference books. You might cross reference your notes with him. Let me know if y'all make any further connections and I might be able to get some collective information for you. Barry Jernigan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Jefferson County High School (now Tarrant High) served that whole end of the county. I looked in my 1950-1953 annuals just on the off-chance of a later generation. Nothing. I did not remember those names. The whole school had only 600+ students. I mainly looked because of pictures. Seniors had individual photographs. The other classes had homeroom group pictures. Then there were the activity pictures. If they are of interest, the older annuals may be at Tarrant High. If stored in the library (I do not remember them), they survived. If they were stored in the offices on the main floor, they may have been destroyed in the fire in the 1950s that took off the third floor and auditorium. Bill Erwin -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PEGGYSUE O'Shields Gaddis Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:12 PM To: Evelyn S. Leslie; aljeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Pinson " LEWIS" Does any one have any LEWIS' that was in Pinson in the 1920's and 30's? My Mother in Law was born in Pinson, Inez LEWIS / GADDIS. PeggySue O'Shields Gaddis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn S. Leslie" <esleslie@bellsouth.net> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: [ALJEFF] Pinson Butterbean Festival > Since there are a number of former (and present) Pinson residents and/or > descendants of pioneer families of Pinson, Alabama on this list, thought > you might be interested in what's happening there now and seeing how this > yearly celebration has grown. My daughter-in-law sent me the following > link: > http://www.butterbeanfestival.com/ > > I am not personally involved in this celebration of Pinson's history and > association with the butterbean, but if you have any problems accessing > the site or any questions about the festival, please email me directly > esleslie@bellsouth.net and I'll be happy to help. > Evelyn S. Leslie > Remlap, AL > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, thank you, indeed. What a nice surprise about ol' Pinson/Hagood's Cross Roads! I carefully clicked on sponsors to add to "hits." Bill Erwin -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Evelyn S. Leslie Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:41 AM To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALJEFF] Pinson Butterbean Festival Since there are a number of former (and present) Pinson residents and/or descendants of pioneer families of Pinson, Alabama on this list, thought you might be interested in what's happening there now and seeing how this yearly celebration has grown. My daughter-in-law sent me the following link: http://www.butterbeanfestival.com/ I am not personally involved in this celebration of Pinson's history and association with the butterbean, but if you have any problems accessing the site or any questions about the festival, please email me directly esleslie@bellsouth.net and I'll be happy to help. Evelyn S. Leslie Remlap, AL ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does any one have any LEWIS' that was in Pinson in the 1920's and 30's? My Mother in Law was born in Pinson, Inez LEWIS / GADDIS. PeggySue O'Shields Gaddis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn S. Leslie" <esleslie@bellsouth.net> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: [ALJEFF] Pinson Butterbean Festival > Since there are a number of former (and present) Pinson residents and/or > descendants of pioneer families of Pinson, Alabama on this list, thought > you might be interested in what's happening there now and seeing how this > yearly celebration has grown. My daughter-in-law sent me the following > link: > http://www.butterbeanfestival.com/ > > I am not personally involved in this celebration of Pinson's history and > association with the butterbean, but if you have any problems accessing > the site or any questions about the festival, please email me directly > esleslie@bellsouth.net and I'll be happy to help. > Evelyn S. Leslie > Remlap, AL > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since there are a number of former (and present) Pinson residents and/or descendants of pioneer families of Pinson, Alabama on this list, thought you might be interested in what's happening there now and seeing how this yearly celebration has grown. My daughter-in-law sent me the following link: http://www.butterbeanfestival.com/ I am not personally involved in this celebration of Pinson's history and association with the butterbean, but if you have any problems accessing the site or any questions about the festival, please email me directly esleslie@bellsouth.net and I'll be happy to help. Evelyn S. Leslie Remlap, AL

Thank you, Melba. I keep seeing references to Revolutionary War veterans getting land in Tennessee. Then, many Tennesseans came down to Alabama during the Creek War/War of 1812. Such they have written were my Bartons, Hanbys, and many others. They saw extended Jones Valley, or came back to see it, and settled. These war connections I still have not really studied. Your Taylors perhaps. My third grade teacher at Springdale School was Thelma Taylor, old family maybe? She had us memorize psalms and poems from Stevenson's A Child's Garden of Verses. I still have my copy that the Easter Bunny brought later that year. In the Rutherford County marriages and other records I see not only Bartons but also Bairds, Montgomerys, and Crocketts. I be a Montgomery also. Davy Crockett did visit Jones Valley very early either once or twice. One written account states that Crockett stayed a couple of days with James Montgomery (d. 1842), my ancestor. Lots of Crocketts around. They have a history of marrying Montgomerys in Ulster and over here. I played with this one but no solution. So many fascinating things back there we wish we knew more about. The Montgomerys are in East Lake Cemetery. Bill -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Melba Clark Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 6:48 PM To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Sources Bill, My TAYLOR line also came to Jefferson Co., AL from Rutherford Co., TN. Aaron Taylor and his brother, Jesse married in Rutherford Co., TN in 1816, received land from their father, James in 1816, sold the land in 1818 and came to AL about that time. Information on them comes from many sources. As you said, a bit from here and a clue from there, etc., put together makes for a connection. Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: [ALJEFF] Sources >I worked for several hours for Ms. Howard's request, because it was in my > "neighborhood." In the process I found - or refound - the answer to where > my ancestor Thomas Barton, and other Ruhama settlers including her > possible > Cunningham, a very interesting bunch - came from in Tennessee - > Rutherford > County. Lots of folk recorded Tennessee, but no county. However dear ol' > Anson West recorded Rutherford County in his history of Methodism in > Alabama. You might think that Thomas came directly from South Carolina as > he was born there (census), as so many did (one-third of Jefferson > County's > adults were born there as of 1850). Anyway, as most of you know, such > answers, or leads, quite ofen turn up in the various historical > renderings, > especially the earlier ones where the personal and familial was more > important and more known to the writers. I have listed some from time to > time. I am not sure that people always burrow into those places. I did it > for 40 years at work for identification answers or leads. Indeed, in our > research on the ancestry of several families there, the far back has oft > been tracked by some connection, sometimes in genealogies and sometimes in > histories of one sort or another - swinging from one hunch to another. > Anyway, I cannot tell at all that notification of such sources has been > helpful. In many cases, people will have known them anyway. Others do not > live near them. > > Bill Erwin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/962 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 > 1:08 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you. I am not the least surprised. My Yorks may have been there too. I am just about to send an e-mail to a Barton person on that county's e-mail list. Have you read Carolyn Earle Billingsley's Communities of Kinship, a really good explication of the group migration peopling of the South (and, other places, no doubt)? I did a little review of it on Amazon.com. Bill Erwin -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of FINCH64@aol.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 6:11 PM To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Sources Incidentally the Bass family were also pioneers here in Rutherford County, TN. Some of their descendants still live here. Barry Jernigan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have posted information regarding the meeting Saturday, August 25th on the BGS blog: http://birminghamgenealogy.wordpress.com/2007/08/21/august-25-2007-meeting-brother-james-a-bryan-the-brother-bryan-mission/ While you are there you might be interested in some other recent posts (August 2007): http://birminghamgenealogy.wordpress.com/2007/08/ I have several more new items to add so please check the blog often for updates. Melissa Hogan BGS Historian/Blog Administrator birminghamgenealogy.wordpress.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC

Is this the Laura for whom you are looking? 1930 AL Jefferson Co pg 82A [ED37-77-13A] Birmingham City, Block # 431, Precinct 37 [or 27] 15th April, Line 25, 1828 11th Avenue South, H150/F198 Pritchard, Charles R 28 m1st at21 b AL/AL/KS rents $65 salesman, wholesale electric wife Annie L 27 m1st at20 b TN/TN/TN dau Annie L b AL/AL/TN [The listing appears to be an apartment building, since there are a lot of families listed at the same household and address.] This couple appears to be the Charles R Prichard who married Annie Laura Rhodes in Jefferson Co., AL [License date: 26 Jan 1923, Bk 90, pg 29. _ Info from 1818-1940 Jefferson Co., AL Marriages, White Males index.] This is the only Laura on the index section for Pritchett/Pritchard males. However, I do not have a copy of the Prichett/Prichard page. Often I find a great variation in the spelling of this name. Hope this helps, Melba Clark ----- Original Message ----- From: "JRA" <janie_reb_aingeal@yahoo.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] ALJEFFER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 149 > Delilah, > > The obituary of Cousin George Randall lists his sister Cousin Katie > as Mrs. J.C. Smiley. Yesterday I was lucky enough to find his 1910 census > for Jefferson County & Cousin Katie was listed with him (apparently she > was a Mrs. Roberts before Mrs. J. C. Smiley), Cousin Laura (who was > married to a Joe H. Herrick before -?- Pritchard) & Jim Smyley (Smiley). I > cannot seem to find to Katie & James in the 1920 or 1930 census or their > daughter Corine though I did find a marriage record for a Corine Smiley of > 1955 Jefferson County but it does not list who she married. > > Right now I am slowly working my way through the Jefferson County > marriage records hoping to find which Pritchard Cousin Laura married & who > Cousin Corine married. > > Sincerely, > Lena > > aljeffer-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > 4. Re: Corine SMILEY Gragan (Delilah) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 07:41:54 -0700 (PDT) > From: JRA > Subject: [ALJEFF] Corine SMILEY Gragan > To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <458842.71453.qm@web36613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I am searching for information on my cousin Corine SMILEY Gragan & the > information I have is extremely limited so please forgive my lack of > needed information we normally put into our questions. > > Her parents were Katron/Katherine 'Katie' RANDALL Smiley & Mr. J. C. > Smiley, am working on finding his identity. Cousin Corine's birth date is > not included in the family information I am working from but she married a > GRAGAN according to this information & her last address was on North 19th > Street. > > Cousin Katie was born about 1869 & was married to J. C. Smiley by July > 1917 when her brother George E. Randall died in Birmingham, Alabama. I do > not know when Cousin Corine was born here in Georgia. > > Thank You, > Lena > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:47:45 -0400 > From: "Delilah" > Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Corine SMILEY Gragan > To: > Message-ID: <005b01c7d48d$fae4bbc0$d8819804@delilahs> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Get the obit on George Randall, you can get this from the BPL, also if you > want, get his death certificate, and I would see if possibly they had > married in Jefferson County. Also I used to know a person with the surname > SMILEY who lived in Sylacauga (what county?) Alabama. > delilah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JRA" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 10:41 AM > Subject: [ALJEFF] Corine SMILEY Gragan > > > | I am searching for information on my cousin Corine SMILEY Gragan & the > information I have is extremely limited so please forgive my lack of > needed > information we normally put into our questions. > | > | Her parents were Katron/Katherine 'Katie' RANDALL Smiley & Mr. J. C. > Smiley, am working on finding his identity. Cousin Corine's birth date is > not included in the family information I am working from but she married a > GRAGAN according to this information & her last address was on North 19th > Street. > | > | Cousin Katie was born about 1869 & was married to J. C. Smiley by > July 1917 when her brother George E. 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Incidentally the Bass family were also pioneers here in Rutherford County, TN. Some of their descendants still live here. Barry Jernigan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I have Rutherford Co, TN resource books. Feel free to email me at my home email -- my new home in College Grove, TN (in Rutherford Co,TN) bjernigan7040@bellsouth.net I have lists of early pioneers, cemetery books and a heritage book very similar to the Alabama county heritage series. It even has some biographies just like the Alabama county heritage books. Barry Jernigan I also highly recommend looking at the Rutherford Co, TN Genweb and communicating with the very nice helpful folks at the Rutherford County Archives in Murfreesboro (now in a separate building from the court house). Record Books are where you find most of the older documents (wills, deeds, etc). Abbreviated as RB and then listed chronologically and called by a number: RB1, RB2, etc. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Bill, My TAYLOR line also came to Jefferson Co., AL from Rutherford Co., TN. Aaron Taylor and his brother, Jesse married in Rutherford Co., TN in 1816, received land from their father, James in 1816, sold the land in 1818 and came to AL about that time. Information on them comes from many sources. As you said, a bit from here and a clue from there, etc., put together makes for a connection. Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: [ALJEFF] Sources >I worked for several hours for Ms. Howard's request, because it was in my > "neighborhood." In the process I found - or refound - the answer to where > my ancestor Thomas Barton, and other Ruhama settlers including her > possible > Cunningham, a very interesting bunch - came from in Tennessee - > Rutherford > County. Lots of folk recorded Tennessee, but no county. However dear ol' > Anson West recorded Rutherford County in his history of Methodism in > Alabama. You might think that Thomas came directly from South Carolina as > he was born there (census), as so many did (one-third of Jefferson > County's > adults were born there as of 1850). Anyway, as most of you know, such > answers, or leads, quite ofen turn up in the various historical > renderings, > especially the earlier ones where the personal and familial was more > important and more known to the writers. I have listed some from time to > time. I am not sure that people always burrow into those places. I did it > for 40 years at work for identification answers or leads. Indeed, in our > research on the ancestry of several families there, the far back has oft > been tracked by some connection, sometimes in genealogies and sometimes in > histories of one sort or another - swinging from one hunch to another. > Anyway, I cannot tell at all that notification of such sources has been > helpful. In many cases, people will have known them anyway. Others do not > live near them. > > Bill Erwin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/962 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 > 1:08 PM > >

I worked for several hours for Ms. Howard's request, because it was in my "neighborhood." In the process I found - or refound - the answer to where my ancestor Thomas Barton, and other Ruhama settlers including her possible Cunningham, a very interesting bunch - came from in Tennessee - Rutherford County. Lots of folk recorded Tennessee, but no county. However dear ol' Anson West recorded Rutherford County in his history of Methodism in Alabama. You might think that Thomas came directly from South Carolina as he was born there (census), as so many did (one-third of Jefferson County's adults were born there as of 1850). Anyway, as most of you know, such answers, or leads, quite ofen turn up in the various historical renderings, especially the earlier ones where the personal and familial was more important and more known to the writers. I have listed some from time to time. I am not sure that people always burrow into those places. I did it for 40 years at work for identification answers or leads. Indeed, in our research on the ancestry of several families there, the far back has oft been tracked by some connection, sometimes in genealogies and sometimes in histories of one sort or another - swinging from one hunch to another. Anyway, I cannot tell at all that notification of such sources has been helpful. In many cases, people will have known them anyway. Others do not live near them. Bill Erwin

I may be having a problem replying to the list. Please forgive me if the entire posting comes through. Melissa, thank you. A little bias is a good thing; at least you know what you're talking about. :-) I posted a query yesterday on the BGS web site and am mailing my application form today. I will look into the AGS and Hueytown, also. Most of my CROWLEY ancestors were born and raised in B'ham, so that is where I am concentrating my efforts at this time. Again, Melissa, thank you for the leads. Sue in Quincy, MA -------------- Original message -------------- From: aljeffer-request@rootsweb.com

If you are working in southwest Jefferson County, I would highly recommend the Hueytown organization. I don't live in the area and cannot attend meetings, but I share as much information with them as possible because they are so good about putting it online. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Thank you so much -- now I can follow that one up. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Do you have old marriages? I have been trying to track down who Sarah Jane Norman Smith married after the death of her husband Solomon Clay Smith. He died in 1846 in Dekalb County. She appears to have been single until 1860. There are swirling rumors that she married either a man named Turnipseed (no kidding) or a man named Fisk. Any information you might have would be greatly appreciated. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour