Professor O. Kelly Ingram is not listed in the current Durham, N. C., telephone directory. I do not know anyone else in that family. You might look up the Duke Divinity School online and contact the office there. There being Ingrams galore, there should be relatives down there, although the Professor is not in the Ingram book. Until I got into the Ingram book, I had no idea I was related to so much of Blount County. Bill Erwin -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Delilah Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:29 PM To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI I would like to know - also I have a friend who has someone who works for Duke, I will ask him to see if that name is on the directory. do you know if any of his relatives may be alive in Jefferson County or that area? delilah ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | Professor O. Kelly Ingram, I assume a relation if not descendant of | this gentleman, taught in the Duke Divinity School & School of | Religion for many | years until recent times. I met him a couple of times. See if he | shows for | Durham on Swithchboard.com. My vague memory is that he was not in the Ingram | family history (I am kin to all those in the blood line, because it | starts with a marriage into my Hendricks family). Meanwhile, if memory | clears & record appears, I will report. Maybe he was in the book, & | Mayor Roy Ingram | of Tarrant and daughter or kin, Martha Ann Ingram, Top 10 in Miss | America, were the ones I could not connect. | -----Original Message----- | From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com | [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] | On Behalf Of Delilah | Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:22 PM | To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | That link don't work, are you sure it is written correct? | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "jdav2703" <jdav2703@satx.rr.com> | To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:24 PM | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | || Osmond Kelly Ingram born in Pratt City,Alabama || 4 August 1887, entered the Navy 24 November 1903. || on USS Cassin when she was attacked by a German submarine off Ireland || 16 October 1917. || Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the approaching torpedo, || realized it would strike close by explosives, thus dooming the ship, || and rushed to jettison the | Ammunition. || He was blown overboard || when the torpedo struck,thus becoming the first enlisted man killed || in action in World War-1 as he saved his ship and shipmates. see more || at. || www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o4/osmond_ingram.html || || Joe D. || || || ------------------------------- || To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | | in the subject and the body of the message || | | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | in the subject and the body of the message | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If he was a Methodist Minister in Alabama, I have that book. Also if you want copies of their memorial from the ABMC, let me know and I will send you the link. delilah ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI |I have not sailor Ingram's ship. However, he is in Ingram Family II | (Birmingham: Roberts and Son, 1986), pp. 5, 62. All of the blood lines in | this book are descendants of Council Ellis Ingram (1853-1911) & Lucretia | Diadema Hendricks (1855-1920). Her parents were William Holland Hendricks & | Eliza Jane Hanby. Hanbys settled in Blount & Jefferson counties during | Territorial days. Hendricks came to Blount County in about 1830s - early | residents of Blountsville, etc. His father David Hendricks, Sr. (d. 1858) | was my g-g-g-grandfather by his 1st wife (Wm. H. lone child by 3rd wife). | Hence, my remark that all blood lines in the book are some kin to me. | | Page 5: "Robert L. Ingram (1835-1897) . . . Second marriage was to Naomi | (Betty) Lee in 1880. Their son, Osmond Kelly Ingram, was awarded the Navy | Medal of Honor posthumously in World War I. He was the first American killed | during that War in action with the Armed Forces of the United States. Kelly | was killed in action off the coast of Queenstown, Ireland. In 1919, his | mother christened the U.S.S. Ingram, a destroyer, that saw action in the | Atlantic during World War II. Robert was a Methodist Minister, a land | promoter and a Sergeant in the Confederacy. Robert had a big family." | | Page 62: "William Kelly Ingram. Bill (May 25, 1919-Nov. 10, 1944) . . . | Bill was born in the family home in Sand Valley. He was named after his | Uncle Billy and Osmond Kelly Ingram. They both lost their lives during World | War I while fighting for their country." | | Bill Erwin | | -----Original Message----- | From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] | On Behalf Of Delilah | Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:22 PM | To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | That link don't work, are you sure it is written correct? | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "jdav2703" <jdav2703@satx.rr.com> | To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:24 PM | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | || Osmond Kelly Ingram born in Pratt City,Alabama || 4 August 1887, entered the Navy 24 November 1903. || on USS Cassin when she was attacked by a German submarine off Ireland 16 || October 1917. || Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the || approaching torpedo, realized it would strike close || by explosives, thus dooming the ship, and rushed to jettison the | Ammunition. || He was blown overboard || when the torpedo struck,thus becoming the first || enlisted man killed in action in World War-1 as he || saved his ship and shipmates. see more at. || www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o4/osmond_ingram.html || || Joe D. || || || ------------------------------- || To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | | in the subject and the body of the message || | | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | in the subject and the body of the message | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

was Uncle Billy, "William T. Ingram", I also found his memorial, he entered the service from Alabama, US Army, 2nd LT, died Sept 28, 1918, buried at the Meuse-Argonne American Cemetery in Romagne, France. delilah evans ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI |I have not sailor Ingram's ship. However, he is in Ingram Family II | (Birmingham: Roberts and Son, 1986), pp. 5, 62. All of the blood lines in | this book are descendants of Council Ellis Ingram (1853-1911) & Lucretia | Diadema Hendricks (1855-1920). Her parents were William Holland Hendricks & | Eliza Jane Hanby. Hanbys settled in Blount & Jefferson counties during | Territorial days. Hendricks came to Blount County in about 1830s - early | residents of Blountsville, etc. His father David Hendricks, Sr. (d. 1858) | was my g-g-g-grandfather by his 1st wife (Wm. H. lone child by 3rd wife). | Hence, my remark that all blood lines in the book are some kin to me. | | Page 5: "Robert L. Ingram (1835-1897) . . . Second marriage was to Naomi | (Betty) Lee in 1880. Their son, Osmond Kelly Ingram, was awarded the Navy | Medal of Honor posthumously in World War I. He was the first American killed | during that War in action with the Armed Forces of the United States. Kelly | was killed in action off the coast of Queenstown, Ireland. In 1919, his | mother christened the U.S.S. Ingram, a destroyer, that saw action in the | Atlantic during World War II. Robert was a Methodist Minister, a land | promoter and a Sergeant in the Confederacy. Robert had a big family." | | Page 62: "William Kelly Ingram. Bill (May 25, 1919-Nov. 10, 1944) . . . | Bill was born in the family home in Sand Valley. He was named after his | Uncle Billy and Osmond Kelly Ingram. They both lost their lives during World | War I while fighting for their country." | | Bill Erwin | | -----Original Message----- | From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] | On Behalf Of Delilah | Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:22 PM | To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | That link don't work, are you sure it is written correct? | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "jdav2703" <jdav2703@satx.rr.com> | To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:24 PM | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | || Osmond Kelly Ingram born in Pratt City,Alabama || 4 August 1887, entered the Navy 24 November 1903. || on USS Cassin when she was attacked by a German submarine off Ireland 16 || October 1917. || Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the || approaching torpedo, realized it would strike close || by explosives, thus dooming the ship, and rushed to jettison the | Ammunition. || He was blown overboard || when the torpedo struck,thus becoming the first || enlisted man killed in action in World War-1 as he || saved his ship and shipmates. see more at. || www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o4/osmond_ingram.html || || Joe D. || || || ------------------------------- || To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | | in the subject and the body of the message || | | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | in the subject and the body of the message | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

I would like to know - also I have a friend who has someone who works for Duke, I will ask him to see if that name is on the directory. do you know if any of his relatives may be alive in Jefferson County or that area? delilah ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | Professor O. Kelly Ingram, I assume a relation if not descendant of this | gentleman, taught in the Duke Divinity School & School of Religion for many | years until recent times. I met him a couple of times. See if he shows for | Durham on Swithchboard.com. My vague memory is that he was not in the Ingram | family history (I am kin to all those in the blood line, because it starts | with a marriage into my Hendricks family). Meanwhile, if memory clears & | record appears, I will report. Maybe he was in the book, & Mayor Roy Ingram | of Tarrant and daughter or kin, Martha Ann Ingram, Top 10 in Miss America, | were the ones I could not connect. | -----Original Message----- | From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] | On Behalf Of Delilah | Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:22 PM | To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | That link don't work, are you sure it is written correct? | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "jdav2703" <jdav2703@satx.rr.com> | To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:24 PM | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | || Osmond Kelly Ingram born in Pratt City,Alabama || 4 August 1887, entered the Navy 24 November 1903. || on USS Cassin when she was attacked by a German submarine off Ireland 16 || October 1917. || Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the || approaching torpedo, realized it would strike close || by explosives, thus dooming the ship, and rushed to jettison the | Ammunition. || He was blown overboard || when the torpedo struck,thus becoming the first || enlisted man killed in action in World War-1 as he || saved his ship and shipmates. see more at. || www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o4/osmond_ingram.html || || Joe D. || || || ------------------------------- || To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | | in the subject and the body of the message || | | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | in the subject and the body of the message | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

drop the last letter -- l ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI > That link don't work, are you sure it is written correct? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jdav2703" <jdav2703@satx.rr.com> > To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:24 PM > Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI > > > | Osmond Kelly Ingram born in Pratt City,Alabama > | 4 August 1887, entered the Navy 24 November 1903. > | on USS Cassin when she was attacked by a German submarine off Ireland 16 > | October 1917. > | Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the > | approaching torpedo, realized it would strike close > | by explosives, thus dooming the ship, and rushed to jettison the > Ammunition. > | He was blown overboard > | when the torpedo struck,thus becoming the first > | enlisted man killed in action in World War-1 as he > | saved his ship and shipmates. see more at. > | www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o4/osmond_ingram.html > | > | Joe D. > | > | > | ------------------------------- > | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > | > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

First of all, thanks to Laurel Baty, Ann Glasgow and Joan Jones for the excellent information that came immediately after I subscribed to these websites. Most of my questions are answered. In the information provided, there were references cited such as "Distinguished Men, Women and Families of Franklin Co., Alabama," by R. L. James, pub. cir. 1927-1929, pages 77-78. I have information that satisfies certain of the unknowns listed in the excerpts provided. Is this the best forum to submit this information and in what format? The census info provided for cities includes such items as "District 6", "Eastern Subdivision" and "Precinct 37". Is there a reference available to obtain more information on location of these geographic areas for the Counties listed? Finally, the Laurel Baty response included a link to the cemeteries of Franklin County which lists several Allens that are relations that are buried in Allen Cemetery. When I follow up to determine the location of Allen Cemetery, all I find is the name Spruce Pine. Spruce Pine, AL makes sense in that is located south of Russellville and just north of where Allen's Factory was located in Marion County. Is there a source for learning more about the exact location/address of the Allen Cemetery? Thanks again for your great information and speedy reply. Regards, Robert Robert McEver 713-272-0979 bmcever@sbcglobal.net

AMERICAN BATTLE MONUMENTS COMMISSION Osmond K. Ingram Gunner's Mate, First Class, U.S. Navy USS Cassin Entered the Service from: Alabama Died: October 15, 1917 Missing in Action or Buried at Sea Tablets of the Missing at Brookwood American Cemetery Brookwood, England

ship was the USS Cassin ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI |I have not sailor Ingram's ship. However, he is in Ingram Family II | (Birmingham: Roberts and Son, 1986), pp. 5, 62. All of the blood lines in | this book are descendants of Council Ellis Ingram (1853-1911) & Lucretia | Diadema Hendricks (1855-1920). Her parents were William Holland Hendricks & | Eliza Jane Hanby. Hanbys settled in Blount & Jefferson counties during | Territorial days. Hendricks came to Blount County in about 1830s - early | residents of Blountsville, etc. His father David Hendricks, Sr. (d. 1858) | was my g-g-g-grandfather by his 1st wife (Wm. H. lone child by 3rd wife). | Hence, my remark that all blood lines in the book are some kin to me. | | Page 5: "Robert L. Ingram (1835-1897) . . . Second marriage was to Naomi | (Betty) Lee in 1880. Their son, Osmond Kelly Ingram, was awarded the Navy | Medal of Honor posthumously in World War I. He was the first American killed | during that War in action with the Armed Forces of the United States. Kelly | was killed in action off the coast of Queenstown, Ireland. In 1919, his | mother christened the U.S.S. Ingram, a destroyer, that saw action in the | Atlantic during World War II. Robert was a Methodist Minister, a land | promoter and a Sergeant in the Confederacy. Robert had a big family." | | Page 62: "William Kelly Ingram. Bill (May 25, 1919-Nov. 10, 1944) . . . | Bill was born in the family home in Sand Valley. He was named after his | Uncle Billy and Osmond Kelly Ingram. They both lost their lives during World | War I while fighting for their country." | | Bill Erwin | | -----Original Message----- | From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] | On Behalf Of Delilah | Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:22 PM | To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | That link don't work, are you sure it is written correct? | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "jdav2703" <jdav2703@satx.rr.com> | To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:24 PM | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | || Osmond Kelly Ingram born in Pratt City,Alabama || 4 August 1887, entered the Navy 24 November 1903. || on USS Cassin when she was attacked by a German submarine off Ireland 16 || October 1917. || Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the || approaching torpedo, realized it would strike close || by explosives, thus dooming the ship, and rushed to jettison the | Ammunition. || He was blown overboard || when the torpedo struck,thus becoming the first || enlisted man killed in action in World War-1 as he || saved his ship and shipmates. see more at. || www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o4/osmond_ingram.html || || Joe D. || || || ------------------------------- || To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | | in the subject and the body of the message || | | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | in the subject and the body of the message | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

I have not sailor Ingram's ship. However, he is in Ingram Family II (Birmingham: Roberts and Son, 1986), pp. 5, 62. All of the blood lines in this book are descendants of Council Ellis Ingram (1853-1911) & Lucretia Diadema Hendricks (1855-1920). Her parents were William Holland Hendricks & Eliza Jane Hanby. Hanbys settled in Blount & Jefferson counties during Territorial days. Hendricks came to Blount County in about 1830s - early residents of Blountsville, etc. His father David Hendricks, Sr. (d. 1858) was my g-g-g-grandfather by his 1st wife (Wm. H. lone child by 3rd wife). Hence, my remark that all blood lines in the book are some kin to me. Page 5: "Robert L. Ingram (1835-1897) . . . Second marriage was to Naomi (Betty) Lee in 1880. Their son, Osmond Kelly Ingram, was awarded the Navy Medal of Honor posthumously in World War I. He was the first American killed during that War in action with the Armed Forces of the United States. Kelly was killed in action off the coast of Queenstown, Ireland. In 1919, his mother christened the U.S.S. Ingram, a destroyer, that saw action in the Atlantic during World War II. Robert was a Methodist Minister, a land promoter and a Sergeant in the Confederacy. Robert had a big family." Page 62: "William Kelly Ingram. Bill (May 25, 1919-Nov. 10, 1944) . . . Bill was born in the family home in Sand Valley. He was named after his Uncle Billy and Osmond Kelly Ingram. They both lost their lives during World War I while fighting for their country." Bill Erwin -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Delilah Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:22 PM To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI That link don't work, are you sure it is written correct? ----- Original Message ----- From: "jdav2703" <jdav2703@satx.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | Osmond Kelly Ingram born in Pratt City,Alabama | 4 August 1887, entered the Navy 24 November 1903. | on USS Cassin when she was attacked by a German submarine off Ireland 16 | October 1917. | Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the | approaching torpedo, realized it would strike close | by explosives, thus dooming the ship, and rushed to jettison the Ammunition. | He was blown overboard | when the torpedo struck,thus becoming the first | enlisted man killed in action in World War-1 as he | saved his ship and shipmates. see more at. | www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o4/osmond_ingram.html | | Joe D. | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for the obituary for Clarence W. Rochelle died 15 Feb 1948 and obit for Raymond R. Rochell died 11 Jan 1940 . Any help would be greatly appreciated Thank You Joan

Professor O. Kelly Ingram, I assume a relation if not descendant of this gentleman, taught in the Duke Divinity School & School of Religion for many years until recent times. I met him a couple of times. See if he shows for Durham on Swithchboard.com. My vague memory is that he was not in the Ingram family history (I am kin to all those in the blood line, because it starts with a marriage into my Hendricks family). Meanwhile, if memory clears & record appears, I will report. Maybe he was in the book, & Mayor Roy Ingram of Tarrant and daughter or kin, Martha Ann Ingram, Top 10 in Miss America, were the ones I could not connect. -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Delilah Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:22 PM To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI That link don't work, are you sure it is written correct? ----- Original Message ----- From: "jdav2703" <jdav2703@satx.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | Osmond Kelly Ingram born in Pratt City,Alabama | 4 August 1887, entered the Navy 24 November 1903. | on USS Cassin when she was attacked by a German submarine off Ireland 16 | October 1917. | Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the | approaching torpedo, realized it would strike close | by explosives, thus dooming the ship, and rushed to jettison the Ammunition. | He was blown overboard | when the torpedo struck,thus becoming the first | enlisted man killed in action in World War-1 as he | saved his ship and shipmates. see more at. | www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o4/osmond_ingram.html | | Joe D. | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am seeking information about the Jefferson County Bottling Works in the 1920's or later owned by Raymond Rochell. Any information is greatly appreciated. Thank you, Joan

Here is a link from the Franklin County Webpage, a list of Allens' buried in cemeteries there--including Lindsey Allen (father of Lycurgus?), some of his children and at least one child of "L. W. and A. R. Allen" http://www.rootsweb.com/~alfrankl/a.html 1880 United States Federal Census Name: Lycoorgus W. Allen Home in 1880: Beat 10, Marion, Alabama Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Birthplace: Alabama Relation to head-of-household: Self (Head) Spouse's name: Ann R. Father's birthplace: North Carolina Mother's birthplace: Tennessee Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Proprietor Cotton Mill Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age Lycoorgus W. Allen 36 Ann R. Allen 35 Amelia W. Allen 12 Rivers Allen 7 Eva C. Allen 5 Mary L. Allen 2 Gilly Allen 75 servant, black Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Beat 10, Marion, Alabama; Roll: T9_23; Family History Film: 1254023; Page: 1.1000; Enumeration District: 235; Image: 0437. Laurel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert McEver" <bmcever@sbcglobal.net> To: <ALJEFFER@rootsweb.com>; <ALMARION@rootsweb.com>; <ALFRANKL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:43 PM Subject: [ALJEFF] Allen, McEver & Rivers Surnames > > > My GGFather Lycurgus W. (Joe) Allen was born Jan 5, 1844 at unknown > location. He married Ann Rivers, born June 17, 1945 in Russellville, > AL.(Franklin County) > > Lycurgus W. Allen was in the C.S.A - 5th Cavalry Regiment - Company E > > > > > > My GMother, Mary Lindsey (Mae) Allen McEver was born in Allen's Factory, > AL > (Marion County) on Feb. 6, 1878, the fifth of eight children of L.W. & Ann > Alllen. > > Another child of L.W. & Ann was Evelyn Allen. Mae Allen married my > GFather > William Preston McEver on Oct. 29, 1901 in Birmingham AL (Jefferson > County). > > Evelyn Allen married Robert (Bob) McEver, older Brother of William > Preston, > at about the same time. > > > > What I seek is general information relating to any of the birth, marriage > and death events described and in particular, the date and location of the > marriage of Lycurgus W. Allen and Ann Rivers and the location of his > birthplace. They both are buried in Files Valley, TX cemetery. > > > > Thank you for any information you can provide. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Robert McEver > > 713-272-0979 > > bmcever@sbcglobal.net > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

1850 United States Federal Census Name: Licvrgas Allen Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Birth Place: Alabama Gender: Male Home in 1850(City,County,State): District 6, Franklin, Alabama Also in household: Linsey Allen 55 born NC Mary Allen 47 born TN Mijamiah 21 (female) born AL Langdon C. 17 born AL James 16 (?) born AL Milborn 15 born AL Coronelia 6 born AL Crittendon 2 (male) born AL Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: District 6, Franklin, Alabama; Roll: M432_5; Page: 176; Image: 543. 1860 United States Federal Census Name: Lycurgus W Allen Age in 1860: 16 Birth Year: abt 1844 Birthplace: Alabama Home in 1860: Eastern Subdivision, Franklin, Alabama Gender: Male Post Office: Mountain Spring Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Lindsey Allen 67 Mary Allen 53 Lindsey M Allen 20 Lycurgus W Allen 16 Cornelia Allen 14 John C Allen 11 Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Eastern Subdivision, Franklin, Alabama; Roll: M653_10; Page: 543; Image: 6. 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Lycurgus W Allen Home in 1900: Precinct 37, Jefferson, Alabama Age: 56 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Birthplace: Alabama Relationship to head-of-house: Head Spouse's name: Annie R Race: White Occupation: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Lycurgus W Allen 56 Annie R Allen 54 Mary L Allen 22 Mattie L Allen 19 Richard A Allen 17 Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Precinct 37, Jefferson, Alabama; Roll: T623 22; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 126. Laurel Baty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert McEver" <bmcever@sbcglobal.net> To: <ALJEFFER@rootsweb.com>; <ALMARION@rootsweb.com>; <ALFRANKL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:43 PM Subject: [ALJEFF] Allen, McEver & Rivers Surnames > > > My GGFather Lycurgus W. (Joe) Allen was born Jan 5, 1844 at unknown > location. He married Ann Rivers, born June 17, 1945 in Russellville, > AL.(Franklin County) > > Lycurgus W. Allen was in the C.S.A - 5th Cavalry Regiment - Company E > > > > > > My GMother, Mary Lindsey (Mae) Allen McEver was born in Allen's Factory, > AL > (Marion County) on Feb. 6, 1878, the fifth of eight children of L.W. & Ann > Alllen. > > Another child of L.W. & Ann was Evelyn Allen. Mae Allen married my > GFather > William Preston McEver on Oct. 29, 1901 in Birmingham AL (Jefferson > County). > > Evelyn Allen married Robert (Bob) McEver, older Brother of William > Preston, > at about the same time. > > > > What I seek is general information relating to any of the birth, marriage > and death events described and in particular, the date and location of the > marriage of Lycurgus W. Allen and Ann Rivers and the location of his > birthplace. They both are buried in Files Valley, TX cemetery. > > > > Thank you for any information you can provide. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Robert McEver > > 713-272-0979 > > bmcever@sbcglobal.net > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That link don't work, are you sure it is written correct? ----- Original Message ----- From: "jdav2703" <jdav2703@satx.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | Osmond Kelly Ingram born in Pratt City,Alabama | 4 August 1887, entered the Navy 24 November 1903. | on USS Cassin when she was attacked by a German submarine off Ireland 16 | October 1917. | Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the | approaching torpedo, realized it would strike close | by explosives, thus dooming the ship, and rushed to jettison the Ammunition. | He was blown overboard | when the torpedo struck,thus becoming the first | enlisted man killed in action in World War-1 as he | saved his ship and shipmates. see more at. | www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o4/osmond_ingram.html | | Joe D. | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

My GGFather Lycurgus W. (Joe) Allen was born Jan 5, 1844 at unknown location. He married Ann Rivers, born June 17, 1945 in Russellville, AL.(Franklin County) Lycurgus W. Allen was in the C.S.A - 5th Cavalry Regiment - Company E My GMother, Mary Lindsey (Mae) Allen McEver was born in Allen's Factory, AL (Marion County) on Feb. 6, 1878, the fifth of eight children of L.W. & Ann Alllen. Another child of L.W. & Ann was Evelyn Allen. Mae Allen married my GFather William Preston McEver on Oct. 29, 1901 in Birmingham AL (Jefferson County). Evelyn Allen married Robert (Bob) McEver, older Brother of William Preston, at about the same time. What I seek is general information relating to any of the birth, marriage and death events described and in particular, the date and location of the marriage of Lycurgus W. Allen and Ann Rivers and the location of his birthplace. They both are buried in Files Valley, TX cemetery. Thank you for any information you can provide. Regards, Robert McEver 713-272-0979 bmcever@sbcglobal.net

Osmond Kelly Ingram born in Pratt City,Alabama 4 August 1887, entered the Navy 24 November 1903. on USS Cassin when she was attacked by a German submarine off Ireland 16 October 1917. Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the approaching torpedo, realized it would strike close by explosives, thus dooming the ship, and rushed to jettison the Ammunition. He was blown overboard when the torpedo struck,thus becoming the first enlisted man killed in action in World War-1 as he saved his ship and shipmates. see more at. www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o4/osmond_ingram.html Joe D.

Delilah and Jim. Thank you for the information. I put this information in my husbands family tree as his great grandfather was a miner. in Wales and Pennsylvania. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com>; ""Jim Nix"" <lowhandicap@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] medal > No I didn't see that movie, you think it would be on DVD - also I think > this > is a medal for safety - I also have some round discs that they would put > on > a 'trip' and it had a number and that told the man at the top who to > credit > with the coal - my daddy also would tell us about nobody would share their > water, they were so afraid they would run out or get caught, they would > treasure their water (so sad) - I also got some pay tickets or scrip. if > you > would like to see them I can see what I can do about getting them copied - > > delilah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Nix" <lowhandicap@gmail.com> > To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:41 PM > Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] medal > > > | Delilah, > | > | Don't know if you saw the movie "October Sky" or not, but a lot of it > was > | related to working in a coal mine. In that movie, each miner had such a > | marker with "his" number on it. When the miner would go into the mine, > he > | would hang his marker on a board such that, if there were an accident or > | cave-in, they would know who was in the mine. > | > | Jim Nix > | > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> > | To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com>; "COALMINERS" <COALMINERS@rootsweb.com> > | Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:20 AM > | Subject: [ALJEFF] medal > | > | > | >i have found among my fathers things a round medal, probably brass, has > a > | > horizontal hole at top, apparently to wear - has in the center the > | > letters, > | > they appear to be blue RSTCo - which is Republic Iron * Steel Co - it > is > | > for > | > SAFETY (at the top),efficience, loyalty - then below at the bottom is > the > | > Republic info and then Sareton Division - on the back is the number > | > stamped > | > into the medal 332 - quite possibly was my grandfathers - I tried to > clean > | > it up and that is when I found the letters were blue - if interested > let > | > me > | > know and I can try to clean it more - > | > > | > delilah evans > | > A Coal Miners Daughter > | > > | > > | > > | > ------------------------------- > | > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > | > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > | > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > | > | > | ------------------------------- > | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > | > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Below is a reply I received from a Navy Vet, does anyone know where he is buried? delilah ---------------------------------- Here you go Delilah...................it is the "Cassin" Born to Robert L. Ingram and his wife Naomi Elizabeth Lea in Pratt City, Alabama, Ingram entered the Navy 24 November 1903. His ship, Cassin, was attacked by the German submarine U-61 off Ireland on 16 October 1917. Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the approaching torpedo, realized it would strike close by explosives, thus dooming the ship, and rushed to jettison the ammunition. He was blown overboard when the torpedo struck, thus becoming the first enlisted man killed in action in World War I as he saved his ship and shipmates. He was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions on that day. ----------------------------------------------------------- | Article printed in Birmingham Age-Herald, October 18, 1917 | | | "The first man on an American war vessel to give his life in the fight for | world freedom (World War 1) was a Birmingham, Alabama man, Gunner's Mate | OSMOND KELLY INGRAM, of the United States Navy. When a German torpedo struck | the destroyer on which INGRAM was a gunner, he was blown overboard by the | shock of the explosion and his body was not recovered. The attack took place | in the war zone waters off England." | | He was the son of Mrs. Betty INGRAM of Pratt City, had been a fireman for | Pratt City FD. | | Does anyone know the name of the ship?

Article printed in Birmingham Age-Herald, October 18, 1917 "The first man on an American war vessel to give his life in the fight for world freedom (World War 1) was a Birmingham, Alabama man, Gunner's Mate OSMOND KELLY INGRAM, of the United States Navy. When a German torpedo struck the destroyer on which INGRAM was a gunner, he was blown overboard by the shock of the explosion and his body was not recovered. The attack took place in the war zone waters off England." He was the son of Mrs. Betty INGRAM of Pratt City, had been a fireman for Pratt City FD. Does anyone know the name of the ship?