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The University of Alabama has an excellent online map site. Includes county maps, county formations, Sanborn fire maps, coal mining towns of the B'ham area and many others (including maps of the campus and stadium). Very useful stuff and prints beautifully. Note: This info was sent to me by a football fan, as shown by the mention of campus info. http://alabamamaps.ua.edu/contemporarymaps/map_index.html

-----Original Message----- From: Peggy Little [mailto:granpops@bellsouth.net] The park is named after Ingram and my brother tells me that it was the center of some of the civil rights activity. Peggy > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WW1 - FYI (Geniesleuth@aol.com)> > There is also a Kelly Ingram Park in downtown > Birmingham area, and I am assuming it is named after > him. >

There is a photo and some odds and ends on Kelly Ingram at the Blount County Museum. It sits on a desk there and is on permanant display. Also an article (not positive on this one) about him being the first Sailor to die in WW l. There is also a Kelly Ingram Park in downtown Birmingham area, and I am assuming it is named after him. Blount County Museum: (205) 625-6905 Curator: Amy Rhudy Hours: Tuesday-Friday 9 am - 3 pm (Central time) J Parker, Pinson, AL ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Here is the name of an interesting map of coal fields of Alabama. from the Historical Map Archive at http://alabamamaps.ua.edu/historicalmaps/index.html Main Author: Atkinson, William Title/Description: Birdseye Sketch of the Coal and Iron Fields of the State of Alabama Publication Info: hand drawn map Date: 1872 Scale: 1:2,469,000 Original Source: Alabama Department of Archives and History

It is just a vague remembrance on my part, but it is worth a try. He would be 90 now. I just looked on Social Security Death Index and did not see him. I do not know how complete that site is. It certainly would be nice of you if you tracked him down for the Ingram interests. Bill Erwin -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Delilah Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 12:26 PM To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI I can run his name thru a database if you think he is in Alabama - let me know ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | All of a sudden, I have a VERY vague recollection that he was going to move | back to Alabama. Of course, he would be 90 now. | | Bill Erwin | | -----Original Message----- | From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com | [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] | On Behalf Of Delilah | Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:01 PM | To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | maybe he died - | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> | To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:42 PM | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | || Professor O. Kelly Ingram is not listed in the current Durham, N. C., || telephone directory. I do not know anyone else in that family. You || might look up the Duke Divinity School online and contact the office there. | There || being Ingrams galore, there should be relatives down there, although || the Professor is not in the Ingram book. || || Until I got into the Ingram book, I had no idea I was related to so || much | of || Blount County. || || Bill Erwin || || -----Original Message----- || From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] || On Behalf Of Delilah || Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:29 PM || To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com || Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI || || I would like to know - also I have a friend who has someone who works || for Duke, I will ask him to see if that name is on the directory. do || you know | if || any of his relatives may be alive in Jefferson County or that area? || delilah || ----- Original Message ----- || From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> || To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> || Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:19 PM || Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI || || ||| Professor O. Kelly Ingram, I assume a relation if not descendant of ||| this gentleman, taught in the Duke Divinity School & School of ||| Religion for || many ||| years until recent times. I met him a couple of times. See if he ||| shows || for ||| Durham on Swithchboard.com. My vague memory is that he was not in ||| the || Ingram ||| family history (I am kin to all those in the blood line, because it ||| starts with a marriage into my Hendricks family). Meanwhile, if ||| memory clears & record appears, I will report. Maybe he was in the ||| book, & Mayor Roy || Ingram ||| of Tarrant and daughter or kin, Martha Ann Ingram, Top 10 in Miss ||| America, were the ones I could not connect. ||| -----Original Message----- ||| From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com ||| [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] ||| On Behalf Of Delilah ||| Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:22 PM ||| To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com ||| Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI ||| ||| That link don't work, are you sure it is written correct? ||| ----- Original Message ----- ||| From: "jdav2703" <jdav2703@satx.rr.com> ||| To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> ||| Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:24 PM ||| Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI ||| ||| |||| Osmond Kelly Ingram born in Pratt City,Alabama |||| 4 August 1887, entered the Navy 24 November 1903. |||| on USS Cassin when she was attacked by a German submarine off |||| Ireland |||| 16 October 1917. |||| Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the approaching torpedo, |||| realized it would strike close by explosives, thus dooming the |||| ship, and rushed to jettison the ||| Ammunition. |||| He was blown overboard |||| when the torpedo struck,thus becoming the first enlisted man killed |||| in action in World War-1 as he saved his ship and shipmates. see |||| more at. |||| www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o4/osmond_ingram.html |||| |||| Joe D. |||| |||| |||| ------------------------------- |||| To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ||| ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without ||| the || quotes ||| ||| in the subject and the body of the message |||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ------------------------------- ||| To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ||| ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without ||| the || quotes ||| in the subject and the body of the message ||| ||| ||| ------------------------------- ||| To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to || ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes || in the subject and the body of the message ||| || || || || ------------------------------- || To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to || ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes || in the subject and the body of the message || || || ------------------------------- || To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | | in the subject and the body of the message || | | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | in the subject and the body of the message | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can run his name thru a database if you think he is in Alabama - let me know ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | All of a sudden, I have a VERY vague recollection that he was going to move | back to Alabama. Of course, he would be 90 now. | | Bill Erwin | | -----Original Message----- | From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] | On Behalf Of Delilah | Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:01 PM | To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | maybe he died - | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> | To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:42 PM | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | || Professor O. Kelly Ingram is not listed in the current Durham, N. C., || telephone directory. I do not know anyone else in that family. You might || look up the Duke Divinity School online and contact the office there. | There || being Ingrams galore, there should be relatives down there, although the || Professor is not in the Ingram book. || || Until I got into the Ingram book, I had no idea I was related to so much | of || Blount County. || || Bill Erwin || || -----Original Message----- || From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] || On Behalf Of Delilah || Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:29 PM || To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com || Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI || || I would like to know - also I have a friend who has someone who works for || Duke, I will ask him to see if that name is on the directory. do you know | if || any of his relatives may be alive in Jefferson County or that area? || delilah || ----- Original Message ----- || From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> || To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> || Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:19 PM || Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI || || ||| Professor O. Kelly Ingram, I assume a relation if not descendant of ||| this gentleman, taught in the Duke Divinity School & School of ||| Religion for || many ||| years until recent times. I met him a couple of times. See if he ||| shows || for ||| Durham on Swithchboard.com. My vague memory is that he was not in the || Ingram ||| family history (I am kin to all those in the blood line, because it ||| starts with a marriage into my Hendricks family). Meanwhile, if memory ||| clears & record appears, I will report. Maybe he was in the book, & ||| Mayor Roy || Ingram ||| of Tarrant and daughter or kin, Martha Ann Ingram, Top 10 in Miss ||| America, were the ones I could not connect. ||| -----Original Message----- ||| From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com ||| [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] ||| On Behalf Of Delilah ||| Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:22 PM ||| To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com ||| Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI ||| ||| That link don't work, are you sure it is written correct? ||| ----- Original Message ----- ||| From: "jdav2703" <jdav2703@satx.rr.com> ||| To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> ||| Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:24 PM ||| Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI ||| ||| |||| Osmond Kelly Ingram born in Pratt City,Alabama |||| 4 August 1887, entered the Navy 24 November 1903. |||| on USS Cassin when she was attacked by a German submarine off Ireland |||| 16 October 1917. |||| Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the approaching torpedo, |||| realized it would strike close by explosives, thus dooming the ship, |||| and rushed to jettison the ||| Ammunition. |||| He was blown overboard |||| when the torpedo struck,thus becoming the first enlisted man killed |||| in action in World War-1 as he saved his ship and shipmates. see more |||| at. |||| www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o4/osmond_ingram.html |||| |||| Joe D. |||| |||| |||| ------------------------------- |||| To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ||| ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the || quotes ||| ||| in the subject and the body of the message |||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ------------------------------- ||| To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ||| ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the || quotes ||| in the subject and the body of the message ||| ||| ||| ------------------------------- ||| To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to || ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes || in the subject and the body of the message ||| || || || || ------------------------------- || To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to || ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes || in the subject and the body of the message || || || ------------------------------- || To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | | in the subject and the body of the message || | | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | in the subject and the body of the message | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

I can get into the Huntsville library if you think there is anything there that I can get that would help delilah ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] Ingram Family | >From the Ingram Family History II: | | Council Ellis Ingram (1853-1911) & Lucretia Diadema Hendricks (1855-1920) | had: | | Son Rufus Alexander Ingram (1833-1862) married, 1852, Sarah Elizabeth | Murphree (1836-1922). He was badly wounded in 1862 at Shiloh, sent home, but | died at Huntsville. His brother Robert went to Huntsville and brought him | home where he was buried in Camp Ground Cemetery(now known as Shiloh) near | Allgood, Alabama. He was a lieutenant in William Crump's Company, 49th | Alabama Infantry. Male direct or collateral descendants are eligible foe | membership in the Military Order of the Stars and Bars. I am a member | through my Great-Great-Grandmother's brother George Washington Ayres, Jr. | (1836-1864), Lieutenant, later Captain, Co. C, 20th Alabama Infantry (Formed | at Pinson). I recently identified a photograph of him in his uniform. | | In 1869 Sarah (here we go) married Asberry Hallmark (1826-1878), and they | had a son John (1873-1947)! So, John is not a blood relation of Council | Ingram but is everything else. Sarah was known as "Grandma Hallmark" and was | quite a well-known person. | | Rufus Ingram & Sarah had children, the half-siblings. | | Clear Springs Church is very old, located on a road leading north off Hwy. | 79 beyond Remlap. Some miles beyond is the ruin of Hendricks' Mill that I | remember. The stone millrace is still there winding around the hill to tap | Hendricks' Mill Creek or whatever. We walked it one December all the way to | the remains of a rock dam. At that time the clear, fast moving stream had | lovely water cress in it. I remember the mill and have a phoograph of it. | | Bill Erwin | | -----Original Message----- | From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] | On Behalf Of Irma Roy | Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 5:40 PM | To: ALJEffer@rootsweb.com | Subject: [ALJEFF] Ingram Family | | Hi, | | I have been following the discussion of the Osmon Kelly Ingram with | interest. I'm researching the Ingram family in Blount County for collateral | lines. I came across a clipped given to me by Ivy Paris, husband of Ruby | Allgood Paris (both are long deceased) and would like to know if anyone can | tell me the relationship that is mentioned in this article. I have only | copied a part of the column | | From THE SOUTHERN DEMOCRAT, Thursday, April 24, 1947 Column entitled, C. L. | INGRAM'S LETTER | | "The death of John H. Hallmark, my father's half brother, recalls my | boyhood days most vividly. At the old homestead, near Clear Springs Church, | brother Holland and I (comment by Irma J. Roy - Children of Council Ellis | Ingram) spent many happy hours. Early, a brother, now lives at Amarillo, | Texas. There was plenty of fruit. The "Hoss" apples I remember well. | | This column rambles so all of the above is not about the same subject | evidently. | | My question is: How is John H. Hallmark connected to Council Ellis Ingram? | | Thanks for any help. | | Irma J. Roy | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | in the subject and the body of the message | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

I have updated the BGS blog with a post asking for help to support the ongoing Jefferson County Circuit Court Loose Records project. You can find the post here: http://birminghamgenealogy.wordpress.com/ I have also made a permanent page for the project here: http://birminghamgenealogy.wordpress.com/circuit-court-loose-records-project/ The work of volunteers and donations are the only source of support for this project. Please take a few minutes and read about the current project. Thanks! Melissa Hogan BGS Historian/Blog Administrator ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469

I think I have some Bynum's connected to my Carnes also....I will look and see Twincerely, Kimberly Malone Morris 7949 Shelburne Lane E Southaven, MS 38672 Member of the Mothers of Multiples Club -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Irma Roy Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:19 PM To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALJEFF] INGRAM Hi, Kim and Bill, Thanks for your input on the INGRAM family. It will take me a little while to get it all integrated into my files. Some of the information I already have in my files came from the book, GENEALOGY OF THE BYNUM FAMILY, Volume Two. I'm trying to document the information as I go because this book doesn't provide any documentation. I only have collateral connections to the people in this book but thought I might make some connections. Thanks again, Irma J. Roy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Kim and Bill, Thanks for your input on the INGRAM family. It will take me a little while to get it all integrated into my files. Some of the information I already have in my files came from the book, GENEALOGY OF THE BYNUM FAMILY, Volume Two. I'm trying to document the information as I go because this book doesn't provide any documentation. I only have collateral connections to the people in this book but thought I might make some connections. Thanks again, Irma J. Roy

All of a sudden, I have a VERY vague recollection that he was going to move back to Alabama. Of course, he would be 90 now. Bill Erwin -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Delilah Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:01 PM To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI maybe he died - ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | Professor O. Kelly Ingram is not listed in the current Durham, N. C., | telephone directory. I do not know anyone else in that family. You might | look up the Duke Divinity School online and contact the office there. There | being Ingrams galore, there should be relatives down there, although the | Professor is not in the Ingram book. | | Until I got into the Ingram book, I had no idea I was related to so much of | Blount County. | | Bill Erwin | | -----Original Message----- | From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] | On Behalf Of Delilah | Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:29 PM | To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | I would like to know - also I have a friend who has someone who works for | Duke, I will ask him to see if that name is on the directory. do you know if | any of his relatives may be alive in Jefferson County or that area? | delilah | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> | To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:19 PM | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | || Professor O. Kelly Ingram, I assume a relation if not descendant of || this gentleman, taught in the Duke Divinity School & School of || Religion for | many || years until recent times. I met him a couple of times. See if he || shows | for || Durham on Swithchboard.com. My vague memory is that he was not in the | Ingram || family history (I am kin to all those in the blood line, because it || starts with a marriage into my Hendricks family). Meanwhile, if memory || clears & record appears, I will report. Maybe he was in the book, & || Mayor Roy | Ingram || of Tarrant and daughter or kin, Martha Ann Ingram, Top 10 in Miss || America, were the ones I could not connect. || -----Original Message----- || From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com || [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] || On Behalf Of Delilah || Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:22 PM || To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com || Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI || || That link don't work, are you sure it is written correct? || ----- Original Message ----- || From: "jdav2703" <jdav2703@satx.rr.com> || To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> || Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:24 PM || Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI || || ||| Osmond Kelly Ingram born in Pratt City,Alabama ||| 4 August 1887, entered the Navy 24 November 1903. ||| on USS Cassin when she was attacked by a German submarine off Ireland ||| 16 October 1917. ||| Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the approaching torpedo, ||| realized it would strike close by explosives, thus dooming the ship, ||| and rushed to jettison the || Ammunition. ||| He was blown overboard ||| when the torpedo struck,thus becoming the first enlisted man killed ||| in action in World War-1 as he saved his ship and shipmates. see more ||| at. ||| www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o4/osmond_ingram.html ||| ||| Joe D. ||| ||| ||| ------------------------------- ||| To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to || ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes || || in the subject and the body of the message ||| || || || || ------------------------------- || To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to || ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes || in the subject and the body of the message || || || ------------------------------- || To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | in the subject and the body of the message || | | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | in the subject and the body of the message | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From the Ingram Family History II: Council Ellis Ingram (1853-1911) & Lucretia Diadema Hendricks (1855-1920) had: Son Rufus Alexander Ingram (1833-1862) married, 1852, Sarah Elizabeth Murphree (1836-1922). He was badly wounded in 1862 at Shiloh, sent home, but died at Huntsville. His brother Robert went to Huntsville and brought him home where he was buried in Camp Ground Cemetery(now known as Shiloh) near Allgood, Alabama. He was a lieutenant in William Crump's Company, 49th Alabama Infantry. Male direct or collateral descendants are eligible foe membership in the Military Order of the Stars and Bars. I am a member through my Great-Great-Grandmother's brother George Washington Ayres, Jr. (1836-1864), Lieutenant, later Captain, Co. C, 20th Alabama Infantry (Formed at Pinson). I recently identified a photograph of him in his uniform. In 1869 Sarah (here we go) married Asberry Hallmark (1826-1878), and they had a son John (1873-1947)! So, John is not a blood relation of Council Ingram but is everything else. Sarah was known as "Grandma Hallmark" and was quite a well-known person. Rufus Ingram & Sarah had children, the half-siblings. Clear Springs Church is very old, located on a road leading north off Hwy. 79 beyond Remlap. Some miles beyond is the ruin of Hendricks' Mill that I remember. The stone millrace is still there winding around the hill to tap Hendricks' Mill Creek or whatever. We walked it one December all the way to the remains of a rock dam. At that time the clear, fast moving stream had lovely water cress in it. I remember the mill and have a phoograph of it. Bill Erwin -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Irma Roy Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 5:40 PM To: ALJEffer@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALJEFF] Ingram Family Hi, I have been following the discussion of the Osmon Kelly Ingram with interest. I'm researching the Ingram family in Blount County for collateral lines. I came across a clipped given to me by Ivy Paris, husband of Ruby Allgood Paris (both are long deceased) and would like to know if anyone can tell me the relationship that is mentioned in this article. I have only copied a part of the column From THE SOUTHERN DEMOCRAT, Thursday, April 24, 1947 Column entitled, C. L. INGRAM'S LETTER "The death of John H. Hallmark, my father's half brother, recalls my boyhood days most vividly. At the old homestead, near Clear Springs Church, brother Holland and I (comment by Irma J. Roy - Children of Council Ellis Ingram) spent many happy hours. Early, a brother, now lives at Amarillo, Texas. There was plenty of fruit. The "Hoss" apples I remember well. This column rambles so all of the above is not about the same subject evidently. My question is: How is John H. Hallmark connected to Council Ellis Ingram? Thanks for any help. Irma J. Roy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Also Robert Ruffus A. Ingram married Frances Edna CARNES daughter of James M.Carnes brother of GreenBerry CARNES. James CARNES also the father of Nicholas CARNES Descendants of COUNCIL BRUTON INGRAM 1 COUNCIL BRUTON INGRAM b: Abt. 1800 in NORTH CAROLINA .. +SARAH BOSTIC b: Abt. 1808 in SOUTH CAROLINA 2 AGUSTUS ANDREW JOHN INGRAM b: March 03, 1830 in GEORGIA d: March 15, 1901 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1901 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA .... +MARY ADELINE BAKER b: March 27, 1831 in SOUTH CAROLINA d: February 22, 1890 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1890 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ... 3 CHLOE G. INGRAM ... 3 JOAN S.C. INGRAM ... 3 LULA B. INGRAM ... 3 METTIE F. INGRAM ... 3 ROBERT "RUFUS" A. INGRAM b: February 25, 1863 in ALLGOOD, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: May 16, 1916 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1916 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ....... +FRANCES EDNA CARNES b: May 14, 1868 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: November 17, 1950 in BLOUNT COUNTY ALABAMA Burial: 1950 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA m: in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Father: JAMES MADISON CARNES Mother: NARCISSA ELIZABETH SAUNDERS/ SANDERS m: in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ...... 4 KATE INGRAM INGRAM b: Abt. 1885 .......... +CLARENCE GIBSON ...... 4 RUBY INGRAM b: Abt. 1891 .......... +WILL JACKSON ...... 4 KATHLEEN INGRAM b: Abt. 1893 .......... +LENORE ...... 4 GLENN INGRAM b: Abt. 1894 ...... 4 GLADYS INGRAM b: Abt. 1895 .......... +OLLIE B. TIDWELL ...... 4 EVA MABLE INGRAM b: July 14, 1898 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: August 12, 1900 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1900 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ...... 4 FARIS L. INGRAM b: January 09, 1903 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: October 17, 1909 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1909 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ... *2nd Wife of ROBERT "RUFUS" A. INGRAM: ....... +MARY E. COWDEN m: January 19, 1882 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA m: January 19, 1882 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA *2nd Wife of AGUSTUS ANDREW JOHN INGRAM: .... +LENORA M. CLOWDUS b: November 27, 1847 d: June 29, 1893 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1893 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA m: October 29, 1890 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA m: October 29, 1890 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA 2 ROBERT L. INGRAM b: 1835 .... +JANE ISABELLE BAKER b: 1835 m: Abt. 1862 m: Abt. 1862 ... 3 SARAH ADELIA INGRAM b: Abt. 1863 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: January 17, 1935 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1935 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ....... +NICHOLAS J. CARNES b: October 19, 1854 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: April 20, 1921 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1921 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA m: October 17, 1880 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Father: JAMES MADISON CARNES Mother: NARCISSA ELIZABETH SAUNDERS/ SANDERS m: October 17, 1880 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ...... 4 LULA CARNES b: Abt. 1881 .......... +GEORGE MOATS ...... 4 JAMES ARTHUR CARNES b: April 07, 1883 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: September 1956 in BLOCTON (BIBB COUNTY) ALABAMA Burial: 1956 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA .......... +MARY ELIZABETH PATTERSON b: January 28, 1882 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: August 03, 1957 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1957 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ......... 5 JAMES ARTHUR CARNES, JR. b: November 03, 1912 in ALABAMA d: October 01, 1993 in SOUTH VENICE, SARASOTA, FLORIDA ............. +BUENITA b: July 20, 1913 d: July 10, 1968 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1968 OLD LIBERTY HILL, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY ALABAMA ...... 4 VERA CARNES b: Abt. 1885 .......... +HUSBAND POSEY ...... 4 KATE CARNES b: Abt. 1887 .......... +ED MORRIS ...... 4 WILLIAM FRED CARNES b: September 06, 1889 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: August 20, 1895 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1895 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ...... 4 MINNIE CARNES b: Abt. 1892 .......... +JACK JONES ... 3 BOSWELL T. INGRAM b: Abt. 1868 d: Unknown ....... +SARAH "SALLY" J CARNES b: September 1867 in ALABAMA d: November 1899 in BLOUNT COUNTY ALABAMA Burial: 1899 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONIONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY m: January 22, 1888 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Father: GREEN-BERRY CARNES Mother: NANCY A. SAUNDERS/SANDERS m: January 22, 1888 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ...... 4 SUSIE INGRAM b: 1890 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA .......... +WALTER WEBB b: 1884 ......... 5 HUGH INGRAM WEBB, SR. b: May 12, 1916 in ANNISTON, CALHOUN COUNTY, ALABAMA d: August 1975 in ANNISTON, CALHOUN COUNTY, ALABAMA ............. +ELOISE CAMERON b: November 18, 1913 in CINCINNATI, HAMILTON COUNTY, OHIO d: April 21, 1998 in RICHMOND, VIRGINIA Father: JOSEPH G. CAMERON Mother: LUTIE M. TINGLEY ............ 6 HUGH INGRAM WEBB, JR ............ 6 ROGER GAY WEBB ............ 6 THOMAS LEE WEBB ............ 6 DAVID C. WEBB ......... *2nd Wife of HUGH INGRAM WEBB, SR.: ............. +OPAL SENTAL ............ 6 DARLENE WEBB ...... 4 JAMES HUGH INGRAM b: August 18, 1893 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: March 27, 1973 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA Burial: FT. MYERS CEMETERY, LEE COUNTY, FLORIDA .......... +RUTH ALENE DAVIDSON b: October 09, 1896 in MINONK, ILLINOIS d: January 07, 1985 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA Burial: FT. MYERS, LEE COUNTY, FLORIDA m: August 14, 1919 in WOODROW, FLORIDA m: August 14, 1919 in WOODROW, FLORIDA ......... 5 FRANCES A. INGRAM b: March 05, 1921 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA d: May 08, 2001 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA ............. +ROBERT MELVIN LEMLEY b: May 30, 1917 in BESSEMER, JEFFERSON COUNTY, ALABAMA d: March 1980 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA ............ 6 GLENDA RUTH LEMLEY ............ 6 TED HUGH LEMLEY b: July 14, 1944 in BESSEMER, JEFFERSON COUNTY, ALABAMA d: March 16, 1982 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA ............ 6 CYNTHIA GRACE LEMLEY ......... 5 SARAH RUTH INGRAM b: September 27, 1926 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA d: August 05, 2003 in SAN JOSE, SANTA CLARA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA Burial: FT. MYERS CEMETERY, LEE COUNTY, FLORIDA ............. +GEORGE SAN FILIPPO d: Bef. 1971 m: Abt. 1940 m: Abt. 1940 ............ 6 SANDRA ANN SAN FILIPPO ................ +HUSBAND LAWRENCE ............... 7 SON LAWRENCE ............ 6 MARCELLE RUTH SAN FILIPPO ................ +JOHN NYSSEN b: in MCMINNVILLE, OREGON ............... 7 BEN NYSSEN ............... 7 NEIL NYSSEN ............ 6 GEORGE SAN FILIPPO ......... *2nd Husband of SARAH RUTH INGRAM: ............. +JOHNNY ALAIMO m: 1971 m: 1971 ......... 5 ESTHER ELIZABETH INGRAM b: April 29, 1929 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA d: May 1996 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA ............. +JAMES ANDREW WEHLING b: April 27, 1925 in LOUISVILLE, OHIO d: July 05, 1963 in NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANNA ......... *2nd Husband of ESTHER ELIZABETH INGRAM: ............. +HUSBAND LAND ............ 6 DAUGHTER LAND ......... 5 KATHERINE ESTELLE INGRAM b: Abt. 1930 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA ............. +HOWARD EDDIE NOLEN ............ 6 MICHAEL EDDIE NOLEN ................ +WIFE CLEAR ............... 7 SON NOLEN ............... 7 SON NOLEN ............... 7 SON NOLEN ............ 6 SUSAN KATHRINE NOLEN ................ +HUSBAND FOSTER ............... 7 SON FOSTER ...... 4 RUTH INGRAM b: Abt. 1895 .......... +FRED DAVIS ......... 5 GERALD DAVIS ............. +ELOIS MUFFINS ......... 5 FRANCES DAVIS ............. +JOHN RITCHIE ............ 6 JANE RITCHIE ................ +RAY STUBBLEFIELD ............... 7 GREGORY STUBBLEFIELD ............... 7 RICHIE STUBBLEFIELD ............... 7 LYNN STUBBLEFIELD ............... 7 THOMMY STUBBLEFIELD ............ 6 CHARLOTTE RITCHIE ................ +BILL HAMRICK ............... 7 BILLY HAMRICK ............... 7 JOHNNY HAMRICK ............... 7 LEE ANN HAMRICK ............... 7 PATRICIA LYNN HAMRICK ...... 4 SALLIE INGRAM b: Abt. 1897 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA .......... +RALPH HOWE, REV b: Abt. 1896 ......... 5 EVELYN HOWE ............. +LAWRENCE B. MOSS ............ 6 DIANA MOSS ............ 6 BLAKE MOSS ......... 5 NANCY HOWE ............. +JOHN C. McKAY ............ 6 PAMELA McKAY ............ 6 BERRY McKAY ......... 5 RALPH HOWE, JR. ............. +MARIA JOHANNE ............ 6 PATRICIA HOWE ............ 6 ANGELA HOWE ......... 5 SARAH HOWE b: 1917 *2nd Wife of ROBERT L. INGRAM: .... +NAOMA E. m: Aft. 1868 m: Aft. 1868 Twincerely, Kimberly Malone Morris 7949 Shelburne Lane E Southaven, MS 38672 Member of the Mothers of Multiples Club -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Irma Roy Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 5:14 PM To: aljEffer@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALJEFF] INGRAM Hi, Well, I answered my own question. Sarah Elizabeth Murphree was the wife of Rufus Alexander Ingram (killed in Civil War). They were the parents of Council Ellis Ingram. Sarah re-married Asberry Hallmark and had son, John Franklin "Frank" Hallmark who I assumed is the same as the John H. in the column. Thanks, Irma J. Roy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Irma! I have been working on these two lines for a long time. Sarah Ingram who married Nicholas CARNES is a nephew of my gg-grandfather GreenBerry Carnes of Blount County Alabama and Boswell Igram who married Sarah J. CARNES daughter of GreenBerry Carnes and sister of my g-grandfather Wm. Pat Carnes. The names for Sarah J. came from the book Descendants of GreenBerry Carnes by his grandson James Greene Carnes. I am looking for in relatives of this family. Kim Descendants of ROBERT L. INGRAM 1 ROBERT L. INGRAM b: 1835 .. +JANE ISABELLE BAKER b: 1835 m: Abt. 1862 m: Abt. 1862 2 SARAH ADELIA INGRAM b: Abt. 1863 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: January 17, 1935 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1935 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA .... +NICHOLAS J. CARNES b: October 19, 1854 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: April 20, 1921 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1921 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA m: October 17, 1880 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Father: JAMES MADISON CARNES Mother: NARCISSA ELIZABETH SAUNDERS/ SANDERS m: October 17, 1880 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ... 3 LULA CARNES b: Abt. 1881 ....... +GEORGE MOATS ... 3 JAMES ARTHUR CARNES b: April 07, 1883 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: September 1956 in BLOCTON (BIBB COUNTY) ALABAMA Burial: 1956 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ....... +MARY ELIZABETH PATTERSON b: January 28, 1882 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: August 03, 1957 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1957 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ...... 4 JAMES ARTHUR CARNES, JR. b: November 03, 1912 in ALABAMA d: October 01, 1993 in SOUTH VENICE, SARASOTA, FLORIDA .......... +BUENITA b: July 20, 1913 d: July 10, 1968 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1968 OLD LIBERTY HILL, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY ALABAMA ... 3 VERA CARNES b: Abt. 1885 ....... +HUSBAND POSEY ... 3 KATE CARNES b: Abt. 1887 ....... +ED MORRIS ... 3 WILLIAM FRED CARNES b: September 06, 1889 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: August 20, 1895 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Burial: 1895 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONEONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ... 3 MINNIE CARNES b: Abt. 1892 ....... +JACK JONES 2 BOSWELL T. INGRAM b: Abt. 1868 d: Unknown .... +SARAH "SALLY" J CARNES b: September 1867 in ALABAMA d: November 1899 in BLOUNT COUNTY ALABAMA Burial: 1899 OLD LIBERTY CEMETERY, ONIONTA, BLOUNT COUNTY m: January 22, 1888 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA Father: GREEN-BERRY CARNES Mother: NANCY A. SAUNDERS/SANDERS m: January 22, 1888 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ... 3 SUSIE INGRAM b: 1890 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ....... +WALTER WEBB b: 1884 ...... 4 HUGH INGRAM WEBB, SR. b: May 12, 1916 in ANNISTON, CALHOUN COUNTY, ALABAMA d: August 1975 in ANNISTON, CALHOUN COUNTY, ALABAMA .......... +ELOISE CAMERON b: November 18, 1913 in CINCINNATI, HAMILTON COUNTY, OHIO d: April 21, 1998 in RICHMOND, VIRGINIA Father: JOSEPH G. CAMERON Mother: LUTIE M. TINGLEY ......... 5 HUGH INGRAM WEBB, JR ......... 5 ROGER GAY WEBB ......... 5 THOMAS LEE WEBB ......... 5 DAVID C. WEBB ...... *2nd Wife of HUGH INGRAM WEBB, SR.: .......... +OPAL SENTAL ......... 5 DARLENE WEBB ... 3 JAMES HUGH INGRAM b: August 18, 1893 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA d: March 27, 1973 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA Burial: FT. MYERS CEMETERY, LEE COUNTY, FLORIDA ....... +RUTH ALENE DAVIDSON b: October 09, 1896 in MINONK, ILLINOIS d: January 07, 1985 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA Burial: FT. MYERS, LEE COUNTY, FLORIDA m: August 14, 1919 in WOODROW, FLORIDA m: August 14, 1919 in WOODROW, FLORIDA ...... 4 FRANCES A. INGRAM b: March 05, 1921 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA d: May 08, 2001 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA .......... +ROBERT MELVIN LEMLEY b: May 30, 1917 in BESSEMER, JEFFERSON COUNTY, ALABAMA d: March 1980 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA ......... 5 GLENDA RUTH LEMLEY ......... 5 TED HUGH LEMLEY b: July 14, 1944 in BESSEMER, JEFFERSON COUNTY, ALABAMA d: March 16, 1982 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA ......... 5 CYNTHIA GRACE LEMLEY ...... 4 SARAH RUTH INGRAM b: September 27, 1926 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA d: August 05, 2003 in SAN JOSE, SANTA CLARA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA Burial: FT. MYERS CEMETERY, LEE COUNTY, FLORIDA .......... +GEORGE SAN FILIPPO d: Bef. 1971 m: Abt. 1940 m: Abt. 1940 ......... 5 SANDRA ANN SAN FILIPPO ............. +HUSBAND LAWRENCE ............ 6 SON LAWRENCE ......... 5 MARCELLE RUTH SAN FILIPPO ............. +JOHN NYSSEN b: in MCMINNVILLE, OREGON ............ 6 BEN NYSSEN ............ 6 NEIL NYSSEN ......... 5 GEORGE SAN FILIPPO ...... *2nd Husband of SARAH RUTH INGRAM: .......... +JOHNNY ALAIMO m: 1971 m: 1971 ...... 4 ESTHER ELIZABETH INGRAM b: April 29, 1929 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA d: May 1996 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA .......... +JAMES ANDREW WEHLING b: April 27, 1925 in LOUISVILLE, OHIO d: July 05, 1963 in NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANNA ...... *2nd Husband of ESTHER ELIZABETH INGRAM: .......... +HUSBAND LAND ......... 5 DAUGHTER LAND ...... 4 KATHERINE ESTELLE INGRAM b: Abt. 1930 in FT. MYERS, FLORIDA .......... +HOWARD EDDIE NOLEN ......... 5 MICHAEL EDDIE NOLEN ............. +WIFE CLEAR ............ 6 SON NOLEN ............ 6 SON NOLEN ............ 6 SON NOLEN ......... 5 SUSAN KATHRINE NOLEN ............. +HUSBAND FOSTER ............ 6 SON FOSTER ... 3 RUTH INGRAM b: Abt. 1895 ....... +FRED DAVIS ...... 4 GERALD DAVIS .......... +ELOIS MUFFINS ...... 4 FRANCES DAVIS .......... +JOHN RITCHIE ......... 5 JANE RITCHIE ............. +RAY STUBBLEFIELD ............ 6 GREGORY STUBBLEFIELD ............ 6 RICHIE STUBBLEFIELD ............ 6 LYNN STUBBLEFIELD ............ 6 THOMMY STUBBLEFIELD ......... 5 CHARLOTTE RITCHIE ............. +BILL HAMRICK ............ 6 BILLY HAMRICK ............ 6 JOHNNY HAMRICK ............ 6 LEE ANN HAMRICK ............ 6 PATRICIA LYNN HAMRICK ... 3 SALLIE INGRAM b: Abt. 1897 in BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA ....... +RALPH HOWE, REV b: Abt. 1896 ...... 4 EVELYN HOWE .......... +LAWRENCE B. MOSS ......... 5 DIANA MOSS ......... 5 BLAKE MOSS ...... 4 NANCY HOWE .......... +JOHN C. McKAY ......... 5 PAMELA McKAY ......... 5 BERRY McKAY ...... 4 RALPH HOWE, JR. .......... +MARIA JOHANNE ......... 5 PATRICIA HOWE ......... 5 ANGELA HOWE ...... 4 SARAH HOWE b: 1917 *2nd Wife of ROBERT L. INGRAM: .. +NAOMA E. m: Aft. 1868 m: Aft. 1868 Twincerely, Kimberly Malone Morris 7949 Shelburne Lane E Southaven, MS 38672 Member of the Mothers of Multiples Club -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Irma Roy Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 5:14 PM To: aljEffer@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALJEFF] INGRAM Hi, Well, I answered my own question. Sarah Elizabeth Murphree was the wife of Rufus Alexander Ingram (killed in Civil War). They were the parents of Council Ellis Ingram. Sarah re-married Asberry Hallmark and had son, John Franklin "Frank" Hallmark who I assumed is the same as the John H. in the column. Thanks, Irma J. 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maybe he died - ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | Professor O. Kelly Ingram is not listed in the current Durham, N. C., | telephone directory. I do not know anyone else in that family. You might | look up the Duke Divinity School online and contact the office there. There | being Ingrams galore, there should be relatives down there, although the | Professor is not in the Ingram book. | | Until I got into the Ingram book, I had no idea I was related to so much of | Blount County. | | Bill Erwin | | -----Original Message----- | From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] | On Behalf Of Delilah | Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:29 PM | To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | I would like to know - also I have a friend who has someone who works for | Duke, I will ask him to see if that name is on the directory. do you know if | any of his relatives may be alive in Jefferson County or that area? | delilah | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "William Erwin" <wrerwin@nc.rr.com> | To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:19 PM | Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI | | || Professor O. Kelly Ingram, I assume a relation if not descendant of || this gentleman, taught in the Duke Divinity School & School of || Religion for | many || years until recent times. I met him a couple of times. See if he || shows | for || Durham on Swithchboard.com. My vague memory is that he was not in the | Ingram || family history (I am kin to all those in the blood line, because it || starts with a marriage into my Hendricks family). Meanwhile, if memory || clears & record appears, I will report. Maybe he was in the book, & || Mayor Roy | Ingram || of Tarrant and daughter or kin, Martha Ann Ingram, Top 10 in Miss || America, were the ones I could not connect. || -----Original Message----- || From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com || [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] || On Behalf Of Delilah || Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:22 PM || To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com || Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI || || That link don't work, are you sure it is written correct? || ----- Original Message ----- || From: "jdav2703" <jdav2703@satx.rr.com> || To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> || Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:24 PM || Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI || || ||| Osmond Kelly Ingram born in Pratt City,Alabama ||| 4 August 1887, entered the Navy 24 November 1903. ||| on USS Cassin when she was attacked by a German submarine off Ireland ||| 16 October 1917. ||| Gunner's Mate First Class Ingram spotted the approaching torpedo, ||| realized it would strike close by explosives, thus dooming the ship, ||| and rushed to jettison the || Ammunition. ||| He was blown overboard ||| when the torpedo struck,thus becoming the first enlisted man killed ||| in action in World War-1 as he saved his ship and shipmates. see more ||| at. ||| www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o4/osmond_ingram.html ||| ||| Joe D. ||| ||| ||| ------------------------------- ||| To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to || ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes || || in the subject and the body of the message ||| || || || || ------------------------------- || To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to || ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes || in the subject and the body of the message || || || ------------------------------- || To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | in the subject and the body of the message || | | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | in the subject and the body of the message | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

Hi, Well, I answered my own question. Sarah Elizabeth Murphree was the wife of Rufus Alexander Ingram (killed in Civil War). They were the parents of Council Ellis Ingram. Sarah re-married Asberry Hallmark and had son, John Franklin "Frank" Hallmark who I assumed is the same as the John H. in the column. Thanks, Irma J. Roy

Could you please send me the link for the memorial. I am interested in James McCoy and his father. Many thanks, Doris Estes -----Original Message----- From: aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Delilah Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:40 AM To: aljeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] WW1 - FYI If he was a Methodist Minister in Alabama, I have that book. Also if you want copies of their memorial from the ABMC, let me know and I will send you the link. delilah

Hi, I have been following the discussion of the Osmon Kelly Ingram with interest. I'm researching the Ingram family in Blount County for collateral lines. I came across a clipped given to me by Ivy Paris, husband of Ruby Allgood Paris (both are long deceased) and would like to know if anyone can tell me the relationship that is mentioned in this article. I have only copied a part of the column From THE SOUTHERN DEMOCRAT, Thursday, April 24, 1947 Column entitled, C. L. INGRAM'S LETTER "The death of John H. Hallmark, my father's half brother, recalls my boyhood days most vividly. At the old homestead, near Clear Springs Church, brother Holland and I (comment by Irma J. Roy - Children of Council Ellis Ingram) spent many happy hours. Early, a brother, now lives at Amarillo, Texas. There was plenty of fruit. The "Hoss" apples I remember well. This column rambles so all of the above is not about the same subject evidently. My question is: How is John H. Hallmark connected to Council Ellis Ingram? Thanks for any help. Irma J. Roy