I have some Eastis, but it has several spellings to the name. Mine are buried at the Bivens Chapel Cemetery in Brookside. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <RaeSunshin@aol.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] names in my dads 1930 diary > The Pleasant Grove Wheelers are my Wheelers -- but my mom and I both think > we've run across Estelle. > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Jim, speaking of the Holidays, remember the old Loveman's at the Christmas time, all of the things in the widow. What a memory.. that our children did not get to see. much less our Grand Children. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Nix" <lowhandicap@gmail.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 6:40 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] names in my dads 1930 diary/Train Station > All, > > I love these nostalgia trips. I saved all the emails we passed back and > forth when we did this for several days this same time last year. (Most > loved it; some didn't.) > > Being a grandfather now puts everything in a different perspective. I > wish > my grandchildren could see all those places that were in their heyday in > my > youth. And thank goodness there are people who are trying to preserve and > restore some of those that still exist. > > But, my grandchildren will develop their own memories. They already have. > They love the "new" Zoo. They love the McWane Center. They'll get to see > the new domed stadium go up. (Or not.) In any case, they'll have their > own > memories that they look back on with fondness just as we're doing now. > > Have a great day! > > Jim Nix > Birmingham, AL > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Barry, you posted that at a good time, I have been over some of my Mother's side, HODGES, and I need some marriages dates and in that time period. Thanks Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Jernigan" <bjernigan7040@bellsouth.net> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:17 PM Subject: [ALJEFF] AL Marriage Index > Ancestry.com has the Alabama Marriage Index from 1936 to 1969. It's in the > "Alabama Marriage Collection" database. Couples aren't listed together but > you can search by surname, county and/or date. Click the link to the > microfilm image of the marriage index itself. Note the county number > (alphabetically in order -- 1 is Autauga County and 67 is Winston County. > Jefferson County is 37); the date (sometimes a full date or sometimes just > the month and year); volume # and certificate # and then search by the > county and date for a match. Sometimes kind of tedious but very often > ultimately rewarding. Then, if you wanted, you could order a copy of the > marriage license. > > I thought about the people in that diary from 1930. Perhaps someone might > be interested in searching for those names in the marriage index and > seeing who they married. Might jog some memories a little more? Just an > idea. > > Also, a little OT -- Ancestry has a similar database for Georgia and > Florida marriages. Florida marriages go up to 2001. Those do list the > couples if you follow the links to information about the actual > certificates and it usually gives women's maiden names as well. > > I haven't checked out the Georgia marriage database but I will be doing so > soon. Also there is a divorce index for Florida (same time frame as the > marriage index) and a divorce index for Alabama but I think it's only from > 1950 to 1959. I haven't checked it out yet. > > Anyone know of an online database of marriages for Jefferson County for > the early 1900s? Prior to 1936? Several of my great aunts and uncles > married there during that time frame as well as my great-grandparents. > > I'm going to have to make Birmingham my next research trip. I've already > got one to Cullman Co under my belt and it was a very good learning trip. > One of those trips where once you get there you wish you could just go off > by yourself and spend hours and hours just digging through everything > rather than sticking to some pre-arranged itinerary ;-) Especially in the > court house and also in the library. > > Barry Jernigan > College Grove, Rutherford Co, TN > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Ah, those wonderful memories ... My uncle used to call out the trains at the Southern Railway station. We used to ride the train to TN and other parts of our great country and I really loved seeing the marvelous countryside go by. You had to have a certain "knack" to do his particular job. The old train station: I loved the marble floors, it's huge dome. The same architect built one almost exactly like it in St Louis, BUT they chose to immortalize it by turning it into a tourist attraction, also a hotel of sorts and many stores. Making a fortune from it. Ours went to rubble and who knows what happened to the beautiful marble all in it, or to the wonderful stone from which it was built. Heavy Sigh !!! I have an article written about my uncle that was in the Birmingham news, also have a photo of him in his SR cap. The article starts off with ALL Abooaaarrrd. I had heard him call that out many times. Even went to his little work cubby-hole with my aunt to take him his lunch/supper depending on the shift he was working. Thanks Delilah for dredging up so many wonderful memories for all of us. How wonderful for you to have your father's diary. What a benevolent thing for you to do to share it with us too. My brother-in-law is a VP at the Alabama Theater. My cousin was here doing family research (she is from Australia, father with the Blount Co roots went to Australia in WW ll and met her lovely mother, married her, and stayed there). I took her down to the theater and he gave her a personal tour. We both had a wonderful time!! PS: The pipe organ's name is: Big Bertha. PSS: List Admin. Please do not fuss at us too much for all this nostaligia. After all it is, "history". History is memories, and "memoirs" have made many a person famous! Perhaps it is also that the holiday season is upon us and we are all waxing nostalgic for those ancestors/relatives no longer among us with whom we used to celebrate the holidays. They also used to tell us about the holidays of their youth and from that we have all hopefully gleaned many a clue on some of those elusive ancestors ... Aunt so and so did this, Grandpa so and so did this, and on and on. Judi in Pinson ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

The good old Train Station did have the dome in it, It was a very good place to go on School Field Trips, I went several times with my older son. They would carry us on some of the Trains , also. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann" <huban@graceba.net> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] names in my dads 1930 diary > Laura ,it seemed it had a large dome in the top with colored glass but I > may > have it confused with another.Chattanooga turned their station into a > restaurant or it was at one time. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <PsychSW@aol.com> > To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:17 PM > Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] names in my dads 1930 diary > > > > In a message dated 11/8/2007 9:13:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, > huban@graceba.net writes: > > Does > anyone remember the old train station? > > > > The one they tore down to put a project in? Other cities turn their > train > stations into museums and shopping areas with restaurants, preserve the > beauty. Birmingham is not the most imaginative of cities. > > But yes, I remember going with mother to pick up daddy who had been > working > out of town. I remember how my patent leather slippers sounded on the > marble > floors. > Laura > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

All, I love these nostalgia trips. I saved all the emails we passed back and forth when we did this for several days this same time last year. (Most loved it; some didn't.) Being a grandfather now puts everything in a different perspective. I wish my grandchildren could see all those places that were in their heyday in my youth. And thank goodness there are people who are trying to preserve and restore some of those that still exist. But, my grandchildren will develop their own memories. They already have. They love the "new" Zoo. They love the McWane Center. They'll get to see the new domed stadium go up. (Or not.) In any case, they'll have their own memories that they look back on with fondness just as we're doing now. Have a great day! Jim Nix Birmingham, AL

It did have a dome and towers at the ends. Don't know if the dome had glass. Go to this website to see a picture of it and other old depots around the state: _http://www.homestead.com/stagmiesalrailpics/Depots_ (http://www.homestead.com/stagmiesalrailpics/Depots) . I go to Chattanooga a couple of times a year and the station there has a hotel, restaurants and shops. Really neat. Also in Indianapolis, Indiana, Union Station has been turned into a wonderful shopping area with alabaster statues of people of the 20's era (I think it's the 20's)...it's like their spirits lingered. A newboy selling papers, a couple on a bench.... Laura Laura ,it seemed it had a large dome in the top with colored glass but I may have it confused with another.Chattanooga turned their station into a restaurant or it was at one time. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

In a message dated 11/8/2007 9:22:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, RaeSunshin@aol.com writes: The Pleasant Grove Wheelers are my Wheelers -- but my mom and I both think we've run across Estelle. Yes, I recall that you are related to the Wheelers here. Laura ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

The Pleasant Grove Wheelers are my Wheelers -- but my mom and I both think we've run across Estelle. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Are you thinking of the Pleasant Grove Wheelers? I swear I know who Estelle Wheeler is -- still trying to remember. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

In a message dated 11/8/2007 9:13:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, huban@graceba.net writes: Does anyone remember the old train station? The one they tore down to put a project in? Other cities turn their train stations into museums and shopping areas with restaurants, preserve the beauty. Birmingham is not the most imaginative of cities. But yes, I remember going with mother to pick up daddy who had been working out of town. I remember how my patent leather slippers sounded on the marble floors. Laura ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Ancestry.com has the Alabama Marriage Index from 1936 to 1969. It's in the "Alabama Marriage Collection" database. Couples aren't listed together but you can search by surname, county and/or date. Click the link to the microfilm image of the marriage index itself. Note the county number (alphabetically in order -- 1 is Autauga County and 67 is Winston County. Jefferson County is 37); the date (sometimes a full date or sometimes just the month and year); volume # and certificate # and then search by the county and date for a match. Sometimes kind of tedious but very often ultimately rewarding. Then, if you wanted, you could order a copy of the marriage license. I thought about the people in that diary from 1930. Perhaps someone might be interested in searching for those names in the marriage index and seeing who they married. Might jog some memories a little more? Just an idea. Also, a little OT -- Ancestry has a similar database for Georgia and Florida marriages. Florida marriages go up to 2001. Those do list the couples if you follow the links to information about the actual certificates and it usually gives women's maiden names as well. I haven't checked out the Georgia marriage database but I will be doing so soon. Also there is a divorce index for Florida (same time frame as the marriage index) and a divorce index for Alabama but I think it's only from 1950 to 1959. I haven't checked it out yet. Anyone know of an online database of marriages for Jefferson County for the early 1900s? Prior to 1936? Several of my great aunts and uncles married there during that time frame as well as my great-grandparents. I'm going to have to make Birmingham my next research trip. I've already got one to Cullman Co under my belt and it was a very good learning trip. One of those trips where once you get there you wish you could just go off by yourself and spend hours and hours just digging through everything rather than sticking to some pre-arranged itinerary ;-) Especially in the court house and also in the library. Barry Jernigan College Grove, Rutherford Co, TN

I swear I know who Estelle Wheeler is -- still trying to remember. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Delilah, We may not be helping you much with the names from your dad's diary, but you sure opened the door for some good memories. Thanks. Laura ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

If you blindfolded me and transported me to the Alabama Theater without telling me where I was, I would know from the aroma. I saw Giant and Rebel Without a Cause there and best of all....Love Me Tender, starring Elvis! Thru my teen years my girlfriend and I would ride the bus from Central Park to downtown and eat lunch at the Krystal with the oval window, then go to Loveman's and buy candy (haystacks) from their candy counter and smuggle it in to the Alabama and then after the movie, back around the corner, past the Krystal to Rumore's Record Rack where I spent the rest of my allowance on the latest 45. Other times we would go to Loveman's, purchase a shopping bag for a quarter, buy our lunch at Krystal, hide it in the bag along with the candy from Lovemans and go into the Alabama and then have the gall to line up at the concession stand with our contraband to purchase our cokes to go with lunch. Laura Higginbotham In a message dated 11/8/2007 6:36:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, wrerwin@nc.rr.com writes: Going to the Alabama was magical - transported into grandeur! It still does that to me. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Laura ,it seemed it had a large dome in the top with colored glass but I may have it confused with another.Chattanooga turned their station into a restaurant or it was at one time. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PsychSW@aol.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] names in my dads 1930 diary In a message dated 11/8/2007 9:13:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, huban@graceba.net writes: Does anyone remember the old train station? The one they tore down to put a project in? Other cities turn their train stations into museums and shopping areas with restaurants, preserve the beauty. Birmingham is not the most imaginative of cities. But yes, I remember going with mother to pick up daddy who had been working out of town. I remember how my patent leather slippers sounded on the marble floors. Laura ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could these WHEELERS be from Jefferson Co., Alabama. I have a Great Grandmother that was a Wheeler. Wheeler, Margaret Ellen 1848 - 1881 married to . Brake, James Marion 1847 - 1912 buried at the Bivens Chapel Cemetery in Brookside. PeggySue O'Shields=Gaddis ----- Original Message ----- From: <RaeSunshin@aol.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] names in my dads 1930 diary >I swear I know who Estelle Wheeler is -- still trying to remember. > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I knew a John Cross that my g.father worked with in Fort Payne,AL in the 1940s. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:23 PM Subject: [ALJEFF] names in my dads 1930 diary If any of these names are familiar, would like to know: Jan 1, 1930 Velma Elder Arthur Fleming Edna Glover Bob Burton John D. Franklin John Cross Bob Brandon Lots of mentions of the RITZ, the ALABAMA, WEST LAKE, CAPITAL THEATRE, CASCADE - Neta Sue Smith Box 445 Panama City, Fl (date Wed, Feb 26, 1930) Betty Sides 111 Gordon Ave Powderley, Al. Bernice Garritt 6-5092 Ensley Mrs. Dozier 4-2639m B'ham Estelle Wheeler 3-3469 Hennessy, Ala Sharkey vx Scheneling fight June 30, 1930 Scheneling wins on foul. Kathryn Prows Panama City, Fl Thelma Walraven 4625? Ave Dalton Park, Tn Kathreen Smith 6-4526 Chatt, Tenn These are just some names and notes in my daddy's diary for 1930. delilah ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are so right.Seems only yesterday that B'ham was booming down town. Does anyone remember the old train station? ----- Original Message ----- From: <PsychSW@aol.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] names in my dads 1930 diary Delilah, We may not be helping you much with the names from your dad's diary, but you sure opened the door for some good memories. Thanks. Laura ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I first saw "Gone With The Wind" at the Alabama.Complete with girl attendants in their antebellum dresses. That looked like magic. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PsychSW@aol.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFF] names in my dads 1930 diary If you blindfolded me and transported me to the Alabama Theater without telling me where I was, I would know from the aroma. I saw Giant and Rebel Without a Cause there and best of all....Love Me Tender, starring Elvis! Thru my teen years my girlfriend and I would ride the bus from Central Park to downtown and eat lunch at the Krystal with the oval window, then go to Loveman's and buy candy (haystacks) from their candy counter and smuggle it in to the Alabama and then after the movie, back around the corner, past the Krystal to Rumore's Record Rack where I spent the rest of my allowance on the latest 45. Other times we would go to Loveman's, purchase a shopping bag for a quarter, buy our lunch at Krystal, hide it in the bag along with the candy from Lovemans and go into the Alabama and then have the gall to line up at the concession stand with our contraband to purchase our cokes to go with lunch. Laura Higginbotham In a message dated 11/8/2007 6:36:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, wrerwin@nc.rr.com writes: Going to the Alabama was magical - transported into grandeur! It still does that to me. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message