Does any one have a look up for a "Fighting Joseph Wheeler" in the Census in about 1870 or 1880 census. He was a Lawyer for a time in Jefferson Co., Alabama a little after the mid 1850's. I would like to see the census for him. Thanks Peggy psueg@bellsouth.net

I need the parent's names of Jonas Wheeler, born in No. Carolina in October 30, 1820. If any one has his brothers that would be very good. A;also, does any one have the brothers and parents "Fighting Joseph Wheelers" born September 10, 1836 in Augusta, Ga.?? Thanks, Peggy psueg@bellsouth.net

I am still looking for information of my Harris families in Jefferson County. My gg grandfather, General Marion Harris disappeared (Nov. 1863) in the Civil War and our family history stops here. The only evidence which I have found of my early family are census records, an 1836 BLM Land Entry File and an 1859 County Deed. General's mother, Sarah Harris, owned property in Pinson, AL., (Section 5, Township 16, Range 1 West) His father may have been Joel Harris. Other children may have included William M., (probably Sarah and James Harris eldest son) James M.(jr), John P., and 2 unknown females. James (sr.) and Joel Harris were most likely related. William M (Montgomery?) Harris m. 1843, Mary Cooper; children included William Isaac, Eliza, GB (Green B. ?) S.A., J. T. and R.M. William Isaac Harris m. 1869, Margaret Franklin; children included William James, Thomas L. (Luther) John W., Bert / Lenert and Mary / Mattie Harris. William James Harris m. abt 1895 and had several children including a son named Ernest Harris. My information stops at 1920. I would like to find out further information on these "collateral lines" hoping that the descendents of William M. Harris may know more information about our early families. Kristina Harris kharris@televar.com

I do, I do!! I'm so excited to be able to say that!! What can I help you with? Doni BLACK Barnes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Sue Gaddis" <psueg@bellsouth.net> To: <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 7:01 PM Subject: [ALJEFFER] Maragert Ellen Wheeler/Brake > Does any one have this name in their file, > > Not sure when she was born, she did die a week after given birth to her > baby girl Margaret Frances <Maggie> Brake. December 1881, in Jefferson > Co., Alabama. Maggie did marry into the Hodges Family, to a Charles Wesley > Hodges from Republic, Alabama. Later on moved to Dora, which is in Walker > Co., Alabama. > Margaret Ellen Wheeler/Brake married James Marion Brake. > > > Good chances she is in the line of "Fighting Joe Wheeler". > > psueg@bellsouth.net > > Peggy Sue O'Shields-Gaddis > >

Mark: I have several Montgomerys in my database but I think the most of them come from New York. http://home.att.net/~billcovey/index.html www.1stBooks.com Bill Covey Author of: Watson Is Where It Wuz Creator of: Ol' Tubby Joe Stottlemeyer

MONTGOMERY, William (1807-1891) SC AL MS also KEENE, LEVER, WEEMS I am trying to find information on the ancestry of my great-great grandfather William MONTGOMERY (1807-1891) b. 22 FEB 1807, d. 13 MAY 1891. Conflicting census records indicate that he may have been born in SC, TN, or AL. SC is most likely. He settled permanently in Choctaw Co., MS in 1838 or 1839. On 7 Aug. 1838, he leased 240 acres in Section 16 of Township 17 for 99 years. Section 16 of each township was leased to provide support for the schools. There is a Masonic emblem on his tombstone in South Union Cemetery, Choctaw Co., MS. I have unverified information that William’s father was Andrew MONTGOMERY b. Mecklenburg County NC ca. 1785. Andrew’s father was James MONTGOMERY b. Lancaster County PA ca. 1735/45. James’ parents were John MONTGOMERY Sr. and Martha ? both born in Ireland and immigrated ca. 1735. My great-great grandmother MONTGOMERY was Martha Ann ? (1816-1888) b. ca. 1816, d. 10 SEP 1888. Conflicting census records indicate that she may have born in SC, GA, or AL. SC is most likely. According to the 1880 Census, her parents were born in SC. Her maiden name was possibly WEEMS. There was a marriage bond for a William MONTGOMERY and Martha WEEMS dated 29 DEC 1833 in Jefferson County AL, but I have no proof that this is my William and Martha. Another clue is the death certificate of the youngest daughter of William and Martha Ann MONTGOMERY. Her name was Sarah (Sallie) MONTGOMERY MOSS. The death certificate in 1928 lists her mother as Mary W??????. The rest of the maiden name is illegible - maybe Wiemmes. I have found 3 deeds in Jefferson County AL showing the purchase and subsequent sale of land by a William Montgomery and spouse Martha Ann (possibly Weems) Montgomery dated between 1833 & 1835. William, Martha and their children were members of New Zion Baptist Church, Choctaw County MS. The children of William and Martha Ann MONTGOMERY were: Jonathan - b. AL ca. 1834 d. TX 1882, private C.S.A. 1862-1865, spouse Mary Elizabeth RICHARDS b. AL 1834 d. TX 1917, their children - William George. b. MS 1854 d. TX 1924, Emma Jean b. MS ca. 1856, Lou Ella/Louisa b. MS ca. 1858, Martha Ann b. MS ?. Amanda Jane - b. AL (1836-1890), spouse (1) William Eli BLAIN (2) John R. BAYS. Nancy Ann - b. AL (1839-1882), spouse James Wesley BLAIN b. SC, (1832-1864). Elizabeth - b. MS ca. 1840. Anderson S. - b. MS (1842-1862), private C.S.A. 1861-1862 died in captivity St. Louis, MO. Jackson - b. MS ca. 1844. Sarah (Sallie) - b. MS, (1847-1928), spouse (1) Thomas ROBINSON (2) Doc C. MOSS. William Samuel (my great grandfather) - b. MS, (1850-1884), spouse Harriet Elizabeth KEENE b. MS, (1851-1940), their children – Martha Elizabeth b. MS (1873-1875), Anna Kate b. MS (1874-1950), spouse Monroe L. McCLURE, James Anderson b. MS (1877-1931) spouse Lela BARRON b. MS 1881, Lovie b. MS (1879-1879), Elizabeth b. MS (1880-1926) spouse James Robert POWER b. MS (1877-1948), Anna Bell b. MS (1881-1884), William Samuel (my grandfather) b. MS (1885-1966), spouse Nena Bertha EVANS b. LA (1892-1982). Any leads will be greatly appreciated. I will gladly pay for any postage or photocopying costs and will pass along any new information that I receive. Please send information to: Mark Montgomery Box 5629 Arlington VA 22205 Email: mmontgomery@rocketmail.com Telephone: 703-757-1737

Dear Sandra Hood: Saw your posting on Jefferson Co, AL rootsweb and while I don't have any information to help you, I wanted to let you know that I am also researching HOODs in Jefferson Co, AL in somewhat the same era. My gg grandmother was named Violet HOOD, b. 1842 in SC. She married John SILK on 18 Oct 1866 in Jefferson Co, AL at "the home of the bride's mother". I have looked at all the census' I could find for Jefferson Co prior to 1866 and while there are a number of HOOD families there, I can't find a family for Violet, nor is there a woman on the 1860 census that would be a candidate for 'bride's mother' --- oh, why, why, why couldn't the clerk have put Violet's mother's name on the marriage license!!!!!!!!! I doubt that we are connected, but just thought to send out the information on the long shot that something clicks. Carol Vass

Does anyone have any information on an Edward Pierce Hood who was married to Catherine Prescott Hood? We think "Pierce" or "Pierson" as some of the census list him was born either 1822, 1827 or 1828. They lived in western Jefferson County and are buried in a cemetary called Bethel Cemetary. This cemetary has grown up and can't be located. It is off Highway 269 near Quinton, Flat Creek or Praco. This is my husband's great-grandfather and we would very much appreciate any information on him or the cemetary. Thank you very much. Sandra Hood

I need help with the following people. Jonas Wheeler born in NC. in October 30, 1820 and died in Jefferson Co., Alabama in July 22, 1889 Wife; Sarah Mahuldah Miller born in Abbeville Dist. SC September 7, 1827 Children: << Wheelers >> Jasper Fannie John F, Thomas Drew Nancy Jane Albert James W. William J. Dora Alice Lucinda C. Margaret Ellen Married James Marion Brake In Jefferson Co., Alabama psueg@bellsouth.net Peggy Sue O'Shields-Gaddis

Does any one have this name in their file, Not sure when she was born, she did die a week after given birth to her baby girl Margaret Frances <Maggie> Brake. December 1881, in Jefferson Co., Alabama. Maggie did marry into the Hodges Family, to a Charles Wesley Hodges from Republic, Alabama. Later on moved to Dora, which is in Walker Co., Alabama. Margaret Ellen Wheeler/Brake married James Marion Brake. Good chances she is in the line of "Fighting Joe Wheeler". psueg@bellsouth.net Peggy Sue O'Shields-Gaddis

Melba: Thank you so much for sending me the cemetery inscriptions. This helps tremendously with my FAULL family. I have a few books on Ducktown and will check for your family in them and get back to you as I am writing this at work. I can tell some about Ducktown and the mines there. I have dates of when they shut down, and it seems it may have been right around the time you mention, but will check to make sure. I'll write again tonight. Thanks again!! LaVelda Faull Glasgow, KY ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

LaVelda, Here are the listings from the book, Cemeteries of Jefferson Co., AL Vol. II. (There are no Faull listings in Vol. I.) FAULL James H., son of William & N. E., b 31 July 1878; d 4 Mch 1905. 49 Jeanette Roebuck, wife of E. L., b 11 Sept 1879; d 32 Dec 1924. 60 Llewellyn Jeanette, Inf. dau. of Mr. & Mrs. E. L., b 20 May 1907; d 25 Nov 1927. 49 Nancy E. (Mother) wife of Wiliam, b 23 May 1849; d 5 Nov 1912. 49 William, b 2 Dec 1842 Cornwall, England; d 1 Apr 1893 Pratt City. 49 # 49 indicates: Fraternal Cemetery. This cemetery is on Sheridan Rd. in Pratt City adjacent to Greenwood Cometery, approximately one-half mile west of Ave. W. Copied by Mabel Wallace in 1984. Some inscriptions, too wron to read or now missing, were added from the 1930’s WPA records. At the time the WPA compiled the census records form the Fraternal and Greenwood Cemeteries they treated them as one cemetery. Some of the inscriptionsadded from these records may have been placed in the incorrect cemetery by your compliler and we apologize for any errors that may ahve been made. S. 19, T.17S, R 3W. [205. Greenwood Cemetery. Located on Dugan Street in Pratt City adjoining Fraternal Cemetery. Copied in February 1987 by Christy Hahn, Jim Hahn and Madge Barefield. Some markers now too worn to read or else now missing have been added from WPA records made in the late 1930s. Please refer to explanation for Fraternal Cemetery, #49. S 19, T17S, R6W.] # 60 indicates: Huffman United Methodist Church Cemetery. Located at 711 Gene Reed Road at its intersection with Huffman Road adjacent to the church in the Huffman Community. Copied by Col. Cecil Himes, Martha Craig and Madge Barefield on 3/5/1987. S. 31, T16S, R1W. I am interested in your mention of Ducktown, TN. and migration to Jefferson Co., AL. I would be interested to know if you know anything about the migration. I am looking for more details for the family of William "Bill" Evans. Bill was bo 25 Dec 1860 and married Amanda C. Griffis 22 Nov 1884 Roane Co., TN. He died 5 Feb 1928 in Jefferson Co., AL and is buried at Walker Chapel, Jefferson Co., AL. Five of their children were born in TN. The sixth one, Hurley Edward was born 1895 or 1896, Avondale, Jefferson Co., AL. Bill's sister, Sarah Evans Coggins (husband, Aaron) has one son, Walter. Walter was born in Ducktown, TN, 6 Jan 1888. They also migrated to Jefferson Co., AL. Both Bill's and Sarah's families are found on the 1900 census in Jefferson Co., AL. Family tradition say they came in a covered wagon. Thanks, Melba -----Original Message----- From: LaVelda Faull <lavelda@hotmail.com> To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 9:59 PM Subject: [ALJEFFER] Faull/Rogers Family in Jefferson County, Alabama >Hello. I am new to this list and subscribed in hopes that someone on the >list might be able to help me with locating my ancestor's brother and his >family. My ancestor, GEORGE HENRY FAULL was born 29 Dec 1850 in the little >hamlet of Downgate, Stoke Climsland Parish, Cornwall, England. His older >brother, WILLIAM FAULL, was christened 15 Feb 1843 in Truro Methodist >Church, Kea Parish, Cornwall. They were the sons of WILLIAM and MARY >(TREZISE) FAULL of Chacewater, Kenwyn Parish, Cornwall. Both WILLIAM and >GEORGE H. immigrated to the United States in 1868 and located first at the >copper mining district at Ducktown, Polk County, Tennessee. From there they >spent a few years in the coal mines at Coal Creek (now Lake City), Anderson >County, Tennessee. By 1880, George H. Faull had taken his family and gone >to the western Kentucky coal fields where he located at St. Charles, Hopkins >County, Kentucky and worked as mine foreman for St. Bernard Coal Co. for >over a quarter of a century. His brother, WILLIAM FAULL, removed to >BIRMINGHAM, JEFFERSON CO, ALABAMA. He had married NANCY ROGERS, daughter of >JOHN ROGERS (who owned a ferry near Ducktown, TN) across the state line from >Ducktown in Fannin County, Georgia on 28 May 1868. He moved his family to >Jefferson Co., Alabama and lived at or near PRATT CITY. I believe he was >working at a mine there. He died on 1 April 1893 and is buried, according >to his death certificate, in PRATT CITY CEMETERY. > >His widow, NANCY (ROGERS) FAULL is listed on the 1900 Jefferson Co., Alabama >Census with 5 children. I also have several deeds in Tennessee that prove >they moved to Jefferson County, Alabama. > >I would like to find descendents of WILLIAM and NANCY (ROGERS) FAULL. >First, can anyone tell me where I might find abstracts of this PRATT CITY >CEMETERY? Where is it located? > >Their children were listed as: > >1. FAULL, MARY A. R. - born Aug 1873 Pennsylvania (indicates that they were >in PA for a short time). > >2. FAULL, MARTHA B. - Born June 1876 Ducktown, Polk Co., TN > >3. FAULL, JAMES H. - Born July 1878 Ducktown or Coal Creek, TN > >4. FAULL, ELIJAH L. - Born Dec 1881 Coal Creek, Anderson Co., TN > >5. FAULL, WILLIAM F. (or E?) - Born May 1884 Jefferson Co, Alabama; May >have married Essie ___ and lived in Tuscaloosa Co, Al in 1910. > >I have also recently heard from a very kind woman who states that her >husband's ancestor, WILLIAM E. FAULL was born 3 Dec 1909 in Alabama died 23 >April 1988 and is buried in Huffman Methodist Cemetery, Jefferson Co., >Alabama. His parents were LEWLYNN (LEWELLYN?) ELIJAH FAULL and JEANETTE >(ROEBUCK) FAULL. Lewlynn Elijah Faull's father was also named WILLIAM >ELIJAH FAULL. I am wondering if Lewlynn Elijah Faull was the same man as >the above "Elijah L. Faull" or possibly her WILLIAM ELIJAH FAULL was the >same man as the above "William F(E?)Faull. Where is Huffman Methodist >Cemetery? > >If anyone has access to any Jefferson County cemetery records, marriage >records, etc. who might be able to give me some clues to this family, I >would most certainly appreciate it. > >I would be happy to return the favor here in Barren County, Kentucky or any >surrounding county. > >Cheers, > >LaVelda Faull >Glasgow, KY > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >

Hello. I am new to this list and subscribed in hopes that someone on the list might be able to help me with locating my ancestor's brother and his family. My ancestor, GEORGE HENRY FAULL was born 29 Dec 1850 in the little hamlet of Downgate, Stoke Climsland Parish, Cornwall, England. His older brother, WILLIAM FAULL, was christened 15 Feb 1843 in Truro Methodist Church, Kea Parish, Cornwall. They were the sons of WILLIAM and MARY (TREZISE) FAULL of Chacewater, Kenwyn Parish, Cornwall. Both WILLIAM and GEORGE H. immigrated to the United States in 1868 and located first at the copper mining district at Ducktown, Polk County, Tennessee. From there they spent a few years in the coal mines at Coal Creek (now Lake City), Anderson County, Tennessee. By 1880, George H. Faull had taken his family and gone to the western Kentucky coal fields where he located at St. Charles, Hopkins County, Kentucky and worked as mine foreman for St. Bernard Coal Co. for over a quarter of a century. His brother, WILLIAM FAULL, removed to BIRMINGHAM, JEFFERSON CO, ALABAMA. He had married NANCY ROGERS, daughter of JOHN ROGERS (who owned a ferry near Ducktown, TN) across the state line from Ducktown in Fannin County, Georgia on 28 May 1868. He moved his family to Jefferson Co., Alabama and lived at or near PRATT CITY. I believe he was working at a mine there. He died on 1 April 1893 and is buried, according to his death certificate, in PRATT CITY CEMETERY. His widow, NANCY (ROGERS) FAULL is listed on the 1900 Jefferson Co., Alabama Census with 5 children. I also have several deeds in Tennessee that prove they moved to Jefferson County, Alabama. I would like to find descendents of WILLIAM and NANCY (ROGERS) FAULL. First, can anyone tell me where I might find abstracts of this PRATT CITY CEMETERY? Where is it located? Their children were listed as: 1. FAULL, MARY A. R. - born Aug 1873 Pennsylvania (indicates that they were in PA for a short time). 2. FAULL, MARTHA B. - Born June 1876 Ducktown, Polk Co., TN 3. FAULL, JAMES H. - Born July 1878 Ducktown or Coal Creek, TN 4. FAULL, ELIJAH L. - Born Dec 1881 Coal Creek, Anderson Co., TN 5. FAULL, WILLIAM F. (or E?) - Born May 1884 Jefferson Co, Alabama; May have married Essie ___ and lived in Tuscaloosa Co, Al in 1910. I have also recently heard from a very kind woman who states that her husband's ancestor, WILLIAM E. FAULL was born 3 Dec 1909 in Alabama died 23 April 1988 and is buried in Huffman Methodist Cemetery, Jefferson Co., Alabama. His parents were LEWLYNN (LEWELLYN?) ELIJAH FAULL and JEANETTE (ROEBUCK) FAULL. Lewlynn Elijah Faull's father was also named WILLIAM ELIJAH FAULL. I am wondering if Lewlynn Elijah Faull was the same man as the above "Elijah L. Faull" or possibly her WILLIAM ELIJAH FAULL was the same man as the above "William F(E?)Faull. Where is Huffman Methodist Cemetery? If anyone has access to any Jefferson County cemetery records, marriage records, etc. who might be able to give me some clues to this family, I would most certainly appreciate it. I would be happy to return the favor here in Barren County, Kentucky or any surrounding county. Cheers, LaVelda Faull Glasgow, KY ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

this is a repost of earlier message Information from Birmingham, Age -Herald newspaper Wednesday, November 22, 1922 mining disaster at Dolomite mine #3 persons listed as dead (white) Clarence ANDERSON Will ANTHONY, motor inspector, Dolomite Gail BURCHFIELD, section foreman, Pleasant Grove Ed BRILL, check weighman, Fairview D. A. BUSBY, pumper, Cottage Hill Hugh CONNELL, motor pit worker, Cottage Hill Grady CROWDER Virgil DATES Bernie DOBBS Cleve EARLY, Pleasant Grove Sam HUEY, master mechanic, Hueytown Hobert JUSTICE, assistant mine foreman, mine #3, Cottage Hill Herbert KNIGHT, Hueytown John D. MORRIS, Eugene ROBERTSON, bank boss, Dolomite Lige STANFORD, motor boss, Cottage Hill Jim SUMMERLINE, motor inspector, Dolomite, Jim SCOTT, Dolomite Percy WALDROP, pipe fitter, Bessemer Hershel WARNICK Thom WARNICK, electrician, Cottage HILL this list was not all inclusive, there were supposed to be others whose names were not listed.

Thomas, I am very much interested in your statement: <<<<<<<<<Family stories have been passed on that Lucy Ann BATES was Indian (either full or 1/2), but I have found no proof. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am descended from Rebecca Farley (3g-grandmother) who married Jesse Reese in Blount Co., AL on 27 Jan 1832. Rebecca was the daughter of Robert Farley (signed concent for her marriage) who is said to have been the brother of your Daniel. That would make my Rebecca and your Lisa, first cousins. I have also heard through at least two different branches of Rebecca's line that Rebecca was Indian. I find it interesting that your family has the same family tradition although you descend from her first cousin, thus the connection is even farther back. Maybe there may be something to the story about them being Indian, after all. I would be interested in comparing and exchaning information. Melba -----Original Message----- >From: Thomas Niswonger <niswont@eritter.net> >To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Monday, May 29, 2000 8:56 AM >Subject: [ALJEFFER] Bates, Farley, Goyne (Gowen,Goins),Payne, >Stanley(Standland),Wheatly, > > >> >>My roots in Jefferson County, Ala go back to somewhere in the 1830's. >>My ancestor, Benjamin Goyne (b. abt 1780 in NC) had a daughter, >>Elizabeth (b. abt 1816) who m. Nathan F. Wheatly on 3 July 1833 in >>Jefferson Co., ALA. >> Their daughter, Arrena A. Wheatly, b. abt 1836, m. Washington A. Bates >>(b. abt 1830) on 15 Dec 1850 in Jefferson Co., ALA. >> Washington and Arrena’s son, John W. Bates, (b. abt 1852 Jefferson >>CO.,ALA) m. Mary Jane STANDLAND, b. 26 Jan 1849, dau of James H. and >>Lisa Jane STANDLAND. Lisa Jane STANDLAND may be the daughter of Daniel >>FARLEY and his first wife. Daniel is living with James and Lisa Jane >>Stanley in the 1850 Census, Jefferson CO., ALA. Daniel's second wife is >>Sarah Payne, according to Larry Payne. >>James and Lisa Jane's daughter, Lucy Ann Bates is my great-grandmother. >> >> Families mentioned above are listed in >>Jefferson Co., ALA 1850 Census: >> (p. 206 B, Powels Beat, Dist. 32) >> Fam # 96 Goyne, Benjamin 70 NC >> (Listed with what is apparently his second >>wife, Mary) >> Fam # 97 Wheatly, Nathan 34 GA >> Elizabeth 34 TN >> Arrena A. 14 ALA >> (m. Washington A. BATES) >> Benjamin 12 ALA >> (he m. Nancy K. BATES, sister of Washington A.) >> Mary A. 10 ALA >> Rhoda A. 9 ALA >> Nancy C. 7 ALA >> William J. 5 ALA >> ( p. 204A, 204B; Powels Beat, Dist. 32 >> Fam # 64 Bates John 45 SC >> Frances 45 SC (maiden name not presently known) >> Washington A.20 GA (m. Arrena A. WHEATLY) >> Mary A. 17 GA >> Nancy 14 GA >> Melissa J. 10 ALA >> Lucinda F. 6 ALA (m. 1. James M. Goins (GOYNE?)) >> John W. 3 ALA >> Newton B. 3 ALA >>Page 217A, Greens Beat, Dist # 32, Jefferson >>CO.,ALA 1850 Census >>Fam # 60 >> STANLEY, James H. 35 NC >> Jane 20 ALA >> Mary J. 1 ALA >> FARLEY, Daniel 70 VA >> (PAYNE) Sarah 55 SC >> >>Family stories have been passed on that Lucy >>Ann BATES was Indian >>(either full or 1/2), but I have found no >>proof. >> >>Are these families familiar to anyone? >>T Niswonger >> >> >> > > >

Hi, I am looking for any information about a MILLER family that owned a steel mill in Birmingham in the mid 1800's. The only info I have is that Franklin Henry MILLER married Mary E. Duncan and they had a daughter Ludy Ann in 1887 in Saline County AR. Not much to go on, but it's worth a try. Thanks

My roots in Jefferson County, Ala go back to somewhere in the 1830's. My ancestor, Benjamin Goyne (b. abt 1780 in NC) had a daughter, Elizabeth (b. abt 1816) who m. Nathan F. Wheatly on 3 July 1833 in Jefferson Co., ALA. Their daughter, Arrena A. Wheatly, b. abt 1836, m. Washington A. Bates (b. abt 1830) on 15 Dec 1850 in Jefferson Co., ALA. Washington and Arrena’s son, John W. Bates, (b. abt 1852 Jefferson CO.,ALA) m. Mary Jane STANDLAND, b. 26 Jan 1849, dau of James H. and Lisa Jane STANDLAND. Lisa Jane STANDLAND may be the daughter of Daniel FARLEY and his first wife. Daniel is living with James and Lisa Jane Stanley in the 1850 Census, Jefferson CO., ALA. Daniel's second wife is Sarah Payne, according to Larry Payne. James and Lisa Jane's daughter, Lucy Ann Bates is my great-grandmother. Families mentioned above are listed in Jefferson Co., ALA 1850 Census: (p. 206 B, Powels Beat, Dist. 32) Fam # 96 Goyne, Benjamin 70 NC (Listed with what is apparently his second wife, Mary) Fam # 97 Wheatly, Nathan 34 GA Elizabeth 34 TN Arrena A. 14 ALA (m. Washington A. BATES) Benjamin 12 ALA (he m. Nancy K. BATES, sister of Washington A.) Mary A. 10 ALA Rhoda A. 9 ALA Nancy C. 7 ALA William J. 5 ALA ( p. 204A, 204B; Powels Beat, Dist. 32 Fam # 64 Bates John 45 SC Frances 45 SC (maiden name not presently known) Washington A.20 GA (m. Arrena A. WHEATLY) Mary A. 17 GA Nancy 14 GA Melissa J. 10 ALA Lucinda F. 6 ALA (m. 1. James M. Goins (GOYNE?)) John W. 3 ALA Newton B. 3 ALA Page 217A, Greens Beat, Dist # 32, Jefferson CO.,ALA 1850 Census Fam # 60 STANLEY, James H. 35 NC Jane 20 ALA Mary J. 1 ALA FARLEY, Daniel 70 VA (PAYNE) Sarah 55 SC Family stories have been passed on that Lucy Ann BATES was Indian (either full or 1/2), but I have found no proof. Are these families familiar to anyone? T Niswonger

Sue: My Uncle T. Victor Turner married a Lola Tucker somewhere around Danville or Plainview, Yell County, Arkansas. I don't have much but I can give you what I have if you think it will help. http://home.att.net/~billcovey/index.html www.1stBooks.com Bill Covey Author of: Watson Is Where It Wuz Creator of: Ol' Tubby Joe Stottlemeyer

Hope to correspond with desc`s of one Hattie TUCKER who md a Higdon and her sis. Isabell who may have md a DOSS. These people seem to be related to my WINSETT/BELL families of Searcy, Ark. and Somerville and Memphis, Tenn. also Connected someway to Hattie Allen family of Springville, Al. Please get in touch with me I would so much like to find a family bible record of the Bell and Winsett lines. Sue in Decatur, Al.

Can anyone give me the exact location of the Chamblee Cemetery? I found a book at the library in B'ham in which the location was listed as being 1 block East of Highway 79 in the Tarrant Pinson area. I stopped at 2 fire stations, 1 police headquarters and numerous places of businesses in both areas to find that no one had ever heard of it nor had any idea where it might be from the description taken from the book. I was also looking for a Martin Cemetery which I located in B'ham behind the Central Park Methodist Church between Terrace R & Court R off the Bessemer Hwy. which was established by 1850. This was not easy to locate but upon doing so I found it enclosed in a fenced area and was locked. There was an old sign indicating that it was designated by a Historical Society or Commission; however, the grounds were heavily overgrown with weeds and included uprooted trees. How would I go about getting entry into this cemetery? Perhaps this is a good one for you, Ed.