Here is a forwarded message about the obituaries at the Birmingham Public Library. Melba <<<<<<<begin copy>>>>> Our obituary index is available here on microfiche. Our obituaries are unfortunately not available online at this time.The library started indexing obits in 1975. Of course if one finds a death date in the Alabama Death Index which we do have on file, one could check the newspapers around the date of death for a possible obituary. Another means to quickly check for a possible obituary is to look at the Alabama Department of Archives & History's Vertical Surname Files (which we have on microfilm). The file contains many obits for individuals from various newspapers from across the state. The file began in 1910 and continues to the mid to late 70's. They are a wonderful collection of items such as newspaper wedding & anniversary announcements, notices of people in the service, etc. Correspondence to the Archives regarding queries of various families are included in the files. If one has Alabama connections, I would encourage people to look at them. Hope this helps. -- Ron Joullian Tutwiler Collection of Southern History and Literature Birmingham Public Library 2100 Park Place Birmingham, AL 35203 (205)226-3666 <<<<<<<end copy>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Melba Clark <melba.clark@gte.net> To: Nancy DeVore Williams <william3@hiwaay.net> Date: Thursday, August 10, 2000 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] [Fwd: {not a subscriber} Pratt City] >Nancy, >Try using the look-up service at the Birmingham Public Library's Southern >History Department. They have obituary files and newspapers on microfilm. > > Info about their look-up policy is at this site: ><http://www.bham.lib.al.us/departments/Southern/Letter.htm> >Hope this helps, >Melba > >-----Original Message----- > >>ere is Pratt City? I have been looking for a W. H. BARNARD and had hit >>a brick wall when I saw his name in the Pratt City posting (and bless >>the person who is posting this information!). I would like ANY >>information on this Mr. BARNARD as he evidently took my father under his >> >>wing when my father was orphaned at age six. I have my father's fourth >>grade report card (from a school in Gordo in 1910) signed by Mr. >>BARNARD. Unfortunately I did not ask my father all these questions >>before he died. >>Also, I know nothing of my Grandmother's death. She died June 11, 1904 >>and was buried in Union Hill Cemetery. Her name was Malinda Irene >>Mosley, wife of William Newton Mosley. They evidently lived on the east >>side of Birmingham - my Grandfather owned some land where the Birmingham >> >>Country Club is located. Can someone help me locate an obit for her? >>Thank you so much, Betty Mosley Sala sala@usa.net

I am going to try forwarding this again as they way I did it before it was barely readable. Sorry for the repetition. Nancy From: Betty Sala <bsala@earthlink.net> Where is Pratt City? I have been looking for a W. H. BARNARD and had hit a brick wall when I saw his name in the Pratt City posting (and bless the person who is posting this information!). I would like ANY information on this Mr. BARNARD as he evidently took my father under his wing when my father was orphaned at age six. I have my father's fourth grade report card (from a school in Gordo in 1910) signed by Mr. BARNARD. Unfortunately I did not ask my father all these questions before he died. Also, I know nothing of my Grandmother's death. She died June 11, 1904 and was buried in Union Hill Cemetery. Her name was Malinda Irene Mosley, wife of William Newton Mosley. They evidently lived on the east side of Birmingham - my Grandfather owned some land where the Birmingham Country Club is located. Can someone help me locate an obit for her? Thank you so much, Betty Mosley Sala sala@usa.net

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9EE7A72A9A6526FEF61C4FC2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------9EE7A72A9A6526FEF61C4FC2 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: by fly.HiWAAY.net (mbox william3) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Thu Aug 10 14:02:09 2000) X-From_: listadmin-bounces@rootsweb.com Thu Aug 10 12:20:14 2000 Return-Path: <listadmin-bounces@rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e7AHKC328316 for <william3@hiwaay.net>; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:20:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e7AHK9X01074 for ALJEFFER-admin@lists6.rootsweb.com; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:20:09 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:20:09 -0700 X-From_: bsala@earthlink.net Thu Aug 10 10:20:09 2000 Received: from newmail.rootsweb.com (newmail.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.103]) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e7AHK9G01056 for <ALJEFFER-L@lists6.rootsweb.com>; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:20:09 -0700 Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by newmail.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e7AHK8A04677 for <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com>; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:20:08 -0700 Received: from earthlink.net (ip185.colorado-springs8.co.pub-ip.psi.net [38.27.206.185]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21424 for <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com>; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3992E3CE.81BA691F@earthlink.net> Old-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:18:06 -0600 From: Betty Sala <bsala@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com" <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list Subject: {not a subscriber} Pratt City X-Envelope-To: ALJEFFER-L X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 I am sending this message again as it still hasn't appeared in the Digest. Checked the address and can't find anything wrong. What could my problem be? My messages don't bounce so they are going to someone! Thanks, Betty Sala ere is Pratt City? I have been looking for a W. H. BARNARD and had hit a brick wall when I saw his name in the Pratt City posting (and bless the person who is posting this information!). I would like ANY information on this Mr. BARNARD as he evidently took my father under his wing when my father was orphaned at age six. I have my father's fourth grade report card (from a school in Gordo in 1910) signed by Mr. BARNARD. Unfortunately I did not ask my father all these questions before he died. Also, I know nothing of my Grandmother's death. She died June 11, 1904 and was buried in Union Hill Cemetery. Her name was Malinda Irene Mosley, wife of William Newton Mosley. They evidently lived on the east side of Birmingham - my Grandfather owned some land where the Birmingham Country Club is located. Can someone help me locate an obit for her? Thank you so much, Betty Mosley Sala sala@usa.net --------------9EE7A72A9A6526FEF61C4FC2--

I need a "look up" of a Obit in the Birmingham News or any other local paper in the area of a death of James Luther Gaddis b. Feb. 1886 and died in Birmingham Dec. 1971. I need some names that might be in the Obit. Thanks Peggy psueg@bellsouth.net

I need a look up for a James Luther Gaddis Born in Ga. ?? moved into Alabama Maybe Birmingham or Wylam. Born in 2-6-1886 and died 12-1974 in Birmingham,m according to the SS Records. I am trying to find his parents name. Thanks Peggy psueg@bellsouth.net

Hi, The Cemetery is Mt.Hebron. The John Glass who died 9/18/1873 is my gggrandfather. John M. is one of his sons by his first wife. The headstone that looks like V.Teupa Glass actually is inscribed " Mrs. Tempa Glass". She is John's second wife, Tempy Bagwell, my gggrandmother. I did not see the M. Glass. Could you direct me to the part of the cemetery where it is located. John and Tempy had a daughter Mary that I can't account for. Thank you. Ken Glass

Jefferson Co. AL & Stoddard Co. Mo. lists, I am looking for census information on William Hiram Brown who lived in Jefferson Co. Al until he moved with his family to Stoddard Co. Mo. He had one son born in Birmingham, Al area in 1868. The family moved while this son (William Thomas Brown) was young. William Hiram Brown was married to Mattie Elizabeth. They also had two girls Rebecca Brown and Sally Brown, I do not know when or where they were born. They must have moved with the family because both married men from Stoddard county. I have looked for census data but I have not been able to find any data on them. All help is apprecieated. Always searching Dennis Allen

--------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: "Don S. Herring" <carman1@mindspring.com> To: Cassandra Davis <c.davis1@juno.com> Reply To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Re: Glass Family Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 12:43:06 -0500 Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000806123950.00a5dda0@127.0.0.1> References: <200008030700.e73702X09320@lists6.rootsweb.com> Hi, I noted a John Glass, b. abt. 1806, d. 9-18-1873 and a John M. Glass, 1839-4-22-1915 while in a cemetery a couple of weeks ago. There was also an M. Glass and V. Teupa Glass with headstones in the same cemetery. Don Herring Birmingham, AL At 01:23 PM 8/5/2000 -0400, you wrote: >I have a Loree Glass whose family is from the area. > >------------------------------ > >X-Message: #3 >Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:50:34 -0500 >From: "Kenneth Glass" <houseofglass@mindspring.com> >To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <000e01bffccb$b06da6c0$a881aec7@computer> >Subject: [ALJEFFER] Glass Family >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >I am researching the family ties of John Glass who married Tempy Bagwell >in Jefferson County in 1845. i have some info I am willing to share. Ken >Glass --------- End forwarded message ---------- ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I have a Loree Glass whose family is from the area. - ----------------------------

I am seeking information on Don's surnames in Jefferson and Walker Counties. This is what I have: Nellie ALLEN, b.1873, d/o James and Delilah ALLEN. Nellie was born in Whiteside TN. The family moved to Jefferson County prior to 1880 - they are on the 1880 census. Nellie married Edward S. DAWSON in June 1891. Jesse J. DAWSON, b. 1892 James R. GOODWIN, b. 1857, AL, married Bettie (Unknown) Maggie GOODWIN, b. 1899, Corona, Walker County, married Jesse J. DAWSON I have info about some of the descendants. Will share info - would love to have any clues. Thank You! Sheila Sheila's SURNAMES: Barrett, Beavers, Boling (Bowling), Brown, Claypool, Conley, Crickmer, Godbey, Hankins, Harmon, Linkous, Peery, Skaggs, Sparks, Whitt Don's SURNAMES: Allen, Dawson, Goodwin, Hein

Hello All; I'm looking for marriage and death records for Milton Morgan Barron married to Rebecca McCrary, Bessemer or Jonesboro in Jefferson county. Marriage would be 1850-1860 period and death would be 1900-20. Thanks to anyone who can help. Bill Maddocks willyo@macmed.com

Let's try this again, okay? ;?) Please respond to Raymond or directly to the list. Thanks Nancy From: "Raymond Simmons" <rsimmons8@home.com> Hello Everyone, I am planning to spend 2-3 days in Birmingham in late August to research my family roots. I will be looking for information on my grandfather, Milton Norman Simmons. He was born on July 28, 1892 in Birmingham, Alabama (Jefferson County) and his parents were Milton Simmons and Evelyn Garland. I will be looking for evidence of his birth and any information on his parents that I can find including their marriage, property, divorce, and deaths. Although my grandfather immigrated to Canada in 1917, I would like to look for information that may explain why he left Alabama such as an arrest warrant or economic troubles. The purpose of this e-mail is to seek guidance on what resources exist in the Jefferson County for my research interests. Thank you, Raymond Simmons Burlington, Canada.

Thanks very much to those of all of you who responded. It would appear that some messages are being bounced that I thought were going to the list. I apologize to those of you who have sent messages that didn't make it. I will be SURE and forward to the list, ANYTHING that I receive in that format from here on out!! Meanwhile, please make sure that if you have sent a message and never saw it posted on the list that you are still using the same email address that you originally subscribed with. If you want to have yours checked (if you could be subscribed under more than one name) please let me know and I will be happy to check for you. Sorry and thanks for all of your help and your patience! Sincerely Nancy

Does anyone have marriage records for 1860s in Jefferson County? I'm looking for William White and Lucinda ? Probably 1865 or 1866. Anyone from the Whites that were in Cahaba Valley in middle 1850s? Daniel P. Henry S. S.W. (Samuel?) or Bradley White? Thank you for any help.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3ADF3D7DA74D503EC2113A08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HELP! Did anyone besides me receive this message (attached) yesterday? I think I have been making an incorrect assumption that may have kept some messages from getting posted. As the listowner the following attached message, and MANY like it, come to me several times a week. I THOUGHT that even when the rootsweb sever perceives the sender as not being a member (perhaps they are subscribed under one email address but sending in messages through another), that the sever still forwarded the messages to the list. Now I discovered from someone that I may be wrong. SO Did the list receive the attached letter (as the header implied) yesterday, or was it 'bounced' to me direcetly as the listowner? PLEASE I just need to have a couple of you respond, ;?) okay? THANKS a bunch. Nancy DeVore Williams Listowner --------------3ADF3D7DA74D503EC2113A08 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: by fly.HiWAAY.net (mbox william3) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Aug 2 19:50:07 2000) X-From_: listadmin-bounces@rootsweb.com Wed Aug 2 18:56:40 2000 Return-Path: <listadmin-bounces@rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e72Nucj06279 for <william3@hiwaay.net>; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:56:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e72NuX213117 for ALJEFFER-admin@lists6.rootsweb.com; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:56:33 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:56:33 -0700 X-From_: rsimmons8@home.com Wed Aug 2 16:56:33 2000 Received: from newmail.rootsweb.com (newmail.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.103]) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e72NuXw13099 for <ALJEFFER-L@lists6.rootsweb.com>; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:56:33 -0700 Received: from mail2.rdc2.on.home.com (mail2.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.41]) by newmail.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e72NuWA30284 for <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com>; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:56:32 -0700 Received: from co331559a ([24.141.251.147]) by mail2.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20000802235631.OTAI25041.mail2.rdc2.on.home.com@co331559a> for <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com>; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:56:31 -0700 From: "Raymond Simmons" <rsimmons8@home.com> To: <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Old-Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 19:56:31 -0400 Message-ID: <NEBBLPEDCLODAAIKELFFAEHCCEAA.rsimmons8@home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <007e01bffb07$660c7ae0$b79f193f@melba.clark> X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list Subject: {not a subscriber} Upcoming Trip To Birmingham X-Envelope-To: ALJEFFER-L X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Hello Everyone, I am planning to spend 2-3 days in Birmingham in late August to research my family roots. I will be looking for information on my grandfather, Milton Norman Simmons. He was born on July 28, 1892 in Birmingham, Alabama (Jefferson County) and his parents were Milton Simmons and Evelyn Garland. I will be looking for evidence of his birth and any information on his parents that I can find including their marriage, property, divorce, and deaths. Although my grandfather immigrated to Canada in 1917, I would like to look for information that may explain why he left Alabama such as an arrest warrant or economic troubles. The purpose of this e-mail is to seek guidance on what resources exist in the Jefferson County for my research interests. Thank you, Raymond Simmons Burlington, Canada. --------------3ADF3D7DA74D503EC2113A08--

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I am researching the family ties of John Glass who married Tempy Bagwell in Jefferson County in 1845. i have some info I am willing to share. Ken Glass

Could some one so a cemetery look up for Amanda Magness, born about 1866 and died in 1916. She had a daughter < Eva Myrtle Gaddis> that came to Wylam, Alabama and was married to a William Cleveland Norris, She is buried in Hueytown Cemetery. Now I am hunting her daughter, Amanda Magness Gaddis/Wehunt/Gaddis. Thanks Peggy psueg@bellsouth.net

D. Michelle, There is a marriage record for a Henry S White who married Mary Jane INZER, Jan 31 1856, and a D. P. White who married Martha Worthy, Nov 13 1841. Both of these marriages were in Jefferson Co., AL. I thought perhaps since the Inzer could sound like Inger there might be some connnection. Melba -----Original Message----- From: Rob & Michelle McGregor <fox2@cnetech.com> To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 9:50 PM Subject: [ALJEFFER] N. Inger married to G.P. White >I am searching for information regarding > >G.P. White who married N. Inger. > >They were the parents of Lula Madora White b. 1 Apr 1866 or 1868 in Trussville, Jefferson Co., AL. Lula lived in White's Chapel, St. Clair Co., AL in the late 1900's. > >Their names came from the tombstone of Lula Madora White Fulmer. > >Any information would be greatly appreciated. > >Thank you, >D. Michelle Sessions McGregor >fox2@cnetech.com > > >

I am searching for information regarding G.P. White who married N. Inger. They were the parents of Lula Madora White b. 1 Apr 1866 or 1868 in Trussville, Jefferson Co., AL. Lula lived in White's Chapel, St. Clair Co., AL in the late 1900's. Their names came from the tombstone of Lula Madora White Fulmer. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, D. Michelle Sessions McGregor fox2@cnetech.com