You have to find out when it became a county Blount County. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chip Russ <chipruss@dfsi.net> To: Jefferson CO. Al. <ALJEFFER-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:15 PM Subject: Clear up early Jefferson Co. Record > I am indeed confused. The index for Jefferson Co. Al. list wedding of > Walter Morgan and Nancy Deaton as July 22, 1819. When I got the copy > of this record it says: 'Walter Morgan..... Alabama Territory of the > United States...... Blount County' . Where do I go from here to pin > point where Walter and Nancy were? Are they in Blount or Jefferson Co.? > Would land record, etc. be found in Blount or Jefferson Co? Can anyone > help with this puzzle? > Mary Russ > > ______________________________

Is any one studying the COOK or the SKELETON Family's.? I have a Dorcas Cook/Skeleton that married a Leroy H. Hodges in August 14, 1879 in Blount Co., Alabama. We believe her madam name was COOK and she had married a Skeleton, then Leroy H. Hodges. We would like to see how much information some one would have on the Hodges Family from the other Family, We are hunting Leroy's parents, and can not find their first names. Any help will be appreciated. We have three children by that marriage. 1. Pamela Susan Hodges married Willis Wingo 1871 2. John Alexander Hodges married Mattie Abbey 1872 3. Robert Austin Hodges married Martha Josephine Pennington 1874 The children might have been born in Jefferson Co., Ala. Some may be buried at the HODGES Cemetery, in Republic, Alabama, Jefferson Co., Alabama. The parents are. Thanks, psueg@bellsouth.net Peggy Sue O'Shields-Gaddis

Mary, Alabama did not become a state until December 14, 1819. In 1817 it became the Alabama Territory. >From AlGenWeb: "Blount County was created by the Alabama Territorial Legislature on February 6, 1818 from land ceded to the Federal Government by the Creek Nation. " and "Jefferson Co was was created by the Alabama legislature on Dec. 13, 1819 . It was carved out of Blount County." Look at: http://www.archives.state.al.us/timeline/timefr.html for a timeline for Alabama. It is part of the site: Alabama General Historical Information at http://www.archives.state.al.us/geninfo.html For lots of links for information about Alabama see AlGenWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~algenweb/ At the Bureau of Land Management site I found the following: There are some Morgans in Blount Co. Calvin C bought land federal land in 1821, Luther in 1824 and S. D. in 1826. These dates are for the final certificate at the final closing. They probably are on the Tract Book a little earlier. There were no Deatons who bought federal lands in Blount Co. But there was a James Deaton who bought federal land 1823 in Jefferson Co., AL. and a Thomas in 1837. The earliest Morgan buying land in Jefferson Co. through the federal sales is David in 1858. You can check there for details such as exact locations, etc. The URL is http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/default.asp. You may also want to check purchases made in both counties from individuals since these aren't listed on the BLM records. Hope this helps, Melba -----Original Message----- From: Chip Russ <chipruss@dfsi.net> To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:36 PM Subject: [ALJEFFER] Clear up early Jefferson Co. Record >I am indeed confused. The index for Jefferson Co. Al. list wedding of >Walter Morgan and Nancy Deaton as July 22, 1819. When I got the copy >of this record it says: 'Walter Morgan..... Alabama Territory of the >United States...... Blount County' . Where do I go from here to pin >point where Walter and Nancy were? Are they in Blount or Jefferson Co.? >Would land record, etc. be found in Blount or Jefferson Co? Can anyone >help with this puzzle? >Mary Russ > >

I am indeed confused. The index for Jefferson Co. Al. list wedding of Walter Morgan and Nancy Deaton as July 22, 1819. When I got the copy of this record it says: 'Walter Morgan..... Alabama Territory of the United States...... Blount County' . Where do I go from here to pin point where Walter and Nancy were? Are they in Blount or Jefferson Co.? Would land record, etc. be found in Blount or Jefferson Co? Can anyone help with this puzzle? Mary Russ

Does any know if there was a Paper in Hueytown or Wylam, Alabama in the 1976. I am hunting a death date and can not find it due to the fact of not having the exact date. I have the year and month but not the day. Can any one help.? I have already connected the Birmingham News and they can not find it. Thanks Peggy psueg@bellsouth.net

I have had several questions about the listing of letters. At that point in time,(or earlier) when people had letters or mail, particularly for general delivery, the post office would put a list of letters in the newspaper so that people would know to come and pick up their mail. When people lived in rural farming areas the post office did not deliver to the outlying areas. The farmers and coal miners would only know they had mail by reading their name in the paper. This can be used as a way of locating people at times other than census records. It can also be very helpful in the long time span between the 1880 census and the 1900 census. It is also helpful in times before 1880 to learn family member names and locations. It might help you realize how other people spelled a person's name at that time. Remember there were a lot of illiterate people or those who could not read or write in English. If your ancestor received mail, it would also indicate that there was someone else out there that was able to send them a letter. There is only a list of letters from old newspapers, there is no actual letter in the present time. I hope this helps to explain this more thoroughly. jabtillery@home.com -----Original Message----- From: ARTNFRAMES@aol.com <ARTNFRAMES@aol.com> To: jabtillery@home.com <jabtillery@home.com>; ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] List f letters - August 2, 1899, Pratt City Herald >In a message dated 8/15/00 11:08:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >jabtillery@home.com writes: > ><< EDWARDS, Nathan >> >What was the letter for this person? > > >Betty Rackley Taylor >Researching: Rackley, Taylor, Dudley, Edwards, Broughten, Moon, >Holladay, Adams, Williams, Bunyan, Kelly, Groce, Faulkner, Pugh, etc >

In a message dated 8/15/00 11:08:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jabtillery@home.com writes: << EDWARDS, Nathan >> What was the letter for this person? Betty Rackley Taylor Researching: Rackley, Taylor, Dudley, Edwards, Broughten, Moon, Holladay, Adams, Williams, Bunyan, Kelly, Groce, Faulkner, Pugh, etc

PLEASE respond directly to Leslie and not to me. I am only forwarding this to the list for her. Her address is: LHill42731@aol.com LESLIE wrote: > > Hi: > > Would anyone have access to the 1870 & 1880 Jefferson Co census, and would be > willing to look up a family named ATKINSON? I am looking for a household with > a son named William C. Atkinson, born in 1858, and then later a brother, > Thomas born in 1873. Would like to find parent's names. > > Thanks for any help. > > Leslie Hill remember to please respond to LESLIE at: LHill42731@aol.com

I took a little break, but now more info from Pratt City Herald Letters advertised for the week ending August 1899, ALSTON, Earnest ANDERSON, Lidia BUTLER, Kashie BUTLER, T. G. CARTER, Will CHAMLESS, J. E. CREEL, Mary DAVIS, MARY DIXON, James COLEMAN, George EDWARDS, Nathan FLAKES, Margret FOX, J. S. HARPER, Ruth HANSLEY, Jack HEADEN, Geo HUGHES, Levi JACKSON, Robert JENKINS, Percy KING, Mary LEWIS, John LONDON, F. G. MARTIN, James MARTHY, Patee McADORY, Will PORTER, W. S. SIMMONS, James WESS, Lee..? WILLIAMSON, Mary BROWN, Harvill JOHNSON, W. S. AUTRY, WA..? (col) BURK, Hattie BURRELL, Beckie BOWDS, Alvin CLARKE, George COX, O. A. DOSTER, H. S. DeGROOT, W. E. DUNN, R. H. EVINS, Jackson FERYBONE, J. C. FLOYD, J. S. GRIFFIN, Mattie HORSTON, H. H. HUGHESTON, Geo HARKINS, Sam HOOKS, Geo JACKSON, Albert JACKSON, Jon LORENEL, Mary LUCAS, Mrs. LOCKHART, Carrie MELTON, Thomas McCOOKE, J. W. McQUEEN, J. B. PARKS, Thomas WEST, Geo WILEY, Jose BROWN, Hol JONES, A. G. JOHNSON, Celesta ZELTON, Thro ***** Hope this helps someone. jabtillery@home.com

http://www.hueytown.org/historical/ good site to check cemetery listings ----- Original Message ----- From: Melba Clark <melba.clark@gte.net> To: <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Where is Jonesboro, Ala > Betty, > Jonesboro is in Jefferson Co., AL. > > On my Birmingham map, Jonesboro appears to be the southwestern part of > Bessemer today. Bessemer is located along the southeast side of I-59, just > a little northeast of the intersection with I-459. > > Hope this helps, > Melba > -----Original Message----- > From: ARTNFRAMES@aol.com <ARTNFRAMES@aol.com> > To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, August 13, 2000 11:47 PM > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Where is Jonesboro, Ala > > > >I am looking for info on John Rackley and Lida Birchfield who were in > >Jonesboro, Alabama in 1872 and had a son born on 7/10/1872. > > > >Lonnie/ Leon or M L Rackley > > > >Lonnie is listed on 1910 Jefferson County, Ala census as > >M. L. Rackley bn 1872 married to Sarah Jane Glover bn 1877 with following > >children > >Ethel bn 1905 > >Bessie bn1907 > >Marshall Lee bn 1909 > >what county is Jonesboro > >Thanks for any help > > > >Betty Rackley Taylor > >Researching: Rackley, Taylor, Dudley, Edwards, Broughten, Moon, > >Holladay, Adams, Williams, Bunyan, Kelly, Groce, Faulkner, Pugh, etc > > > > >

Betty, Jonesboro is in Jefferson Co., AL. On my Birmingham map, Jonesboro appears to be the southwestern part of Bessemer today. Bessemer is located along the southeast side of I-59, just a little northeast of the intersection with I-459. Hope this helps, Melba -----Original Message----- From: ARTNFRAMES@aol.com <ARTNFRAMES@aol.com> To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, August 13, 2000 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Where is Jonesboro, Ala >I am looking for info on John Rackley and Lida Birchfield who were in >Jonesboro, Alabama in 1872 and had a son born on 7/10/1872. > >Lonnie/ Leon or M L Rackley > >Lonnie is listed on 1910 Jefferson County, Ala census as >M. L. Rackley bn 1872 married to Sarah Jane Glover bn 1877 with following >children >Ethel bn 1905 >Bessie bn1907 >Marshall Lee bn 1909 >what county is Jonesboro >Thanks for any help > >Betty Rackley Taylor >Researching: Rackley, Taylor, Dudley, Edwards, Broughten, Moon, >Holladay, Adams, Williams, Bunyan, Kelly, Groce, Faulkner, Pugh, etc > >

Cay, Which year's census was it? Melba -----Original Message----- From: Cay Devin <devinc@seanet.com> To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, August 13, 2000 11:37 PM Subject: [ALJEFFER] Where is Wrights Precinct ?? > >Can someone tell me where Wrights Precinct - Beat 4 is located in >Jefferson County. My Goodwin family lived in that area according to the >census records. > >thank you, > >cay devin > > >

Can someone tell me where Wrights Precinct - Beat 4 is located in Jefferson County. My Goodwin family lived in that area according to the census records. thank you, cay devin

I am looking for info on John Rackley and Lida Birchfield who were in Jonesboro, Alabama in 1872 and had a son born on 7/10/1872. Lonnie/ Leon or M L Rackley Lonnie is listed on 1910 Jefferson County, Ala census as M. L. Rackley bn 1872 married to Sarah Jane Glover bn 1877 with following children Ethel bn 1905 Bessie bn1907 Marshall Lee bn 1909 what county is Jonesboro Thanks for any help Betty Rackley Taylor Researching: Rackley, Taylor, Dudley, Edwards, Broughten, Moon, Holladay, Adams, Williams, Bunyan, Kelly, Groce, Faulkner, Pugh, etc

In a message dated 8/13/2000 1:00:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jabtillery@home.com writes: << jabtillery@home.com (Barbara Tillery) To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com >> Barbara, Would that book also have Morgan listed? Margaret Morgan

I thought that some people might be interested in knowing that a book was put together about the families that have lived in Pleasant Grove, beginning from the 1850's or so. The Pleasant Grove Library has these books for sale. If you are interested, you may want to contact them about the book. Some of the family names in book are: ANTHONY BECK VANCE GOOLSBY CRUMLEY The phone number for the Pleasant Grove Library is 205-744-7221 I am not involved with the selling of the book, but thought some folks might be interested. This book was originally printed about a year ago and sold out and now the library has apparently reordered some extra books. jabtillery@home.com BUSBY SHOEMAKER WOMBLE MILLER

I am finding that there was a migration from Clarke/Wilcon/Marengo, Alabama to Mississippi during the early part of the 20th century. In some cases the located to Greenwood/Sidon, MS, in what is now LeFlore County.\ Some of told me it could have a flood (now know there was no flood in Clarke), boll weavel, drought, disease, following evangelism ministers, work on the delta/river/turpintine/no-weavel cotton, lumber, ... What have other experienced? Looking at a map, it seems like a big move from a place with varied resources to a far away place that was very different. Travel from 1900-1920 was not easy. Why leave? Thanks. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

My grandmother was a member of the Victoria Rebekah Lodge No. 22 in B'ham. Does anyone know how to get in touch with this organization or if they kept any kind of records on their members? Thank You.

--WebTV-Mail-24909-1604 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Your messages are being routed through my email. --WebTV-Mail-24909-1604 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.96) by storefull-138.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <ALJEFFER-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by mailsorter-101-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id XAA01803; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e7B6so200962; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:54:50 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:54:50 -0700 X-Original-Sender: misterbill@pdq.net Thu Aug 10 23:54:50 2000 Message-ID: <3993A0D2.EC8F08D@pdq.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:44:35 -0500 From: Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: Nancy DeVore Williams <william3@hiwaay.net> Old-CC: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com, Betty Sala <bsala@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Where is Pratt City References: <3993105E.73FB43B0@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <GXNt5C.A.1O.6M6k5@lists6.rootsweb.com> To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/811 X-Loop: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: ALJEFFER-L-request@rootsweb.com Hi Betty, Have you tried the Obit Lookup Volunteers: http://members.aol.com/sjhcamp/index.html They also have a mailing list. Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net> (Sheer-Luck Holmes) A Rootsweb Sponsor Nancy DeVore Williams wrote: > I am going to try forwarding this again as they way I did it before it > was barely readable. Sorry for the repetition. > Nancy > > From: Betty Sala <bsala@earthlink.net> > > Where is Pratt City? I have been looking for a W. H. BARNARD and had > hit a brick wall when I saw his name in the Pratt City posting (and > bless > the person who is posting this information!). I would like ANY > information on this Mr. BARNARD as he evidently took my father under > his > > wing when my father was orphaned at age six. I have my father's > fourth grade report card (from a school in Gordo in 1910) signed by Mr. > BARNARD. Unfortunately I did not ask my father all these questions > before he died. > Also, I know nothing of my Grandmother's death. She died June 11, > 1904 and was buried in Union Hill Cemetery. Her name

Hi Betty, Have you tried the Obit Lookup Volunteers: http://members.aol.com/sjhcamp/index.html They also have a mailing list. Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net> (Sheer-Luck Holmes) A Rootsweb Sponsor Nancy DeVore Williams wrote: > I am going to try forwarding this again as they way I did it before it > was barely readable. Sorry for the repetition. > Nancy > > From: Betty Sala <bsala@earthlink.net> > > Where is Pratt City? I have been looking for a W. H. BARNARD and had > hit a brick wall when I saw his name in the Pratt City posting (and > bless > the person who is posting this information!). I would like ANY > information on this Mr. BARNARD as he evidently took my father under > his > > wing when my father was orphaned at age six. I have my father's > fourth grade report card (from a school in Gordo in 1910) signed by Mr. > BARNARD. Unfortunately I did not ask my father all these questions > before he died. > Also, I know nothing of my Grandmother's death. She died June 11, > 1904 and was buried in Union Hill Cemetery. Her name was Malinda Irene > Mosley, wife of William Newton Mosley. They evidently lived on the > east side of Birmingham - my Grandfather owned some land where the > Birmingham > > Country Club is located. Can someone help me locate an obit for her? > Thank you so much, Betty Mosley Sala sala@usa.net